Paul Daley Discusses Relationship With UFC's Dana White and Lorenzo Fertitta
by Brent Brookhouse on Sep 12, 2011 3:01 PM EDT
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Describing Paul Daley's relationship with the UFC as "rocky" would certainly be an understatement. Daley was on his way to a title shot when he got taken down for three rounds by Josh Koscheck. Unable to gracefully accept defeat in this situation, Daley threw a sucker punch after the final bell.
This led to Daley's UFC release and a statement by UFC president Dana White that Daley would never again fight in the promotion.
In a recent interview with MMA Fight Corner, Daley went a bit more in depth on his relationship with White and also Lorenzo Fertitta:
"I kind of got the impression from the first time I met him that he didn't like me," Daley said. "He's like that you know. There have been a bunch of unnecessary UFC releases, and I guess if Dana likes somebody he will give them chances, if not, he will let them go. I've only spoken to Dana after the Dustin Hazelett fight, and I spoke to him just initially when I entered the UFC, literally just two times."
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"On the other note, Lorenzo, I've spoken to him a bunch of times," Daley stated. "He was the one who came up and said, 'Well done Paul, you got the Hazelett KO of the night bonus.' He came to me for the Nick Diaz fight, like came to me out of his way personally, and came into the locker room and said, 'good luck.'"
"It's quite funny, I've seen both of them (while coaching Winner against Anthony Njokuani at UFC 132) and Dana walked straight pass me. He's like, you know, I'm guessing I was in his line of sight, and he walks passed me. And Lorenzo walks passed and stops and he greets me. I think that shows the character of different individuals. I just think Lorenzo Fertitta is a real cool guy. It is funny how the real guy, the guy with the money, the real boss behind the scenes, is the coolest guy and the front man can be a bit of a problem."
I still think there is a decent chance that Paul gets back to the UFC but he's going to have to win and win constantly and force Dana and company to welcome him back.
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Paul Daley would be a good gatekeeper in the UFC
But all things considered he’d have no chance at the belt.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
[Dana] walks passed me. And Lorenzo walks passed and stops and he greets me. I think that shows the character of different individuals.
you know what else shows someone’s character paul?
lol, yeah that should be part of a pre-contract to signing him...
Sign here Mr Daley… it states that you have to make weight for your next ten fights, if you manage to accomplish this, we’ll give you an instant title shot against the current title-holder
by Gisele Federico Navarro Mendez on Sep 12, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Dana doesn't like Daley because...
he punched a fighter after a fight? I don’t know… maybe I’m jumping to conclusions here.
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Not cool brah!
how can u make wild assumptions such as that?
by Beast Infection on Sep 13, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
You know British MMA is a joke
When your two top fighters are loudmouth douches who would never ever sniff title contention in the UFC, and then everyone south of Brad Pickett and Ross Pearson could easily be cut.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
im guessing the other guy your talking about is Bisping, who is one or two wins at most away from a title shot, hes already more deserving than some of andersons past title defences. Leites, maia (nate had recently splattered him), cote to name a few.
by The Prototype on Sep 12, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Bisping's biggest quality win at MW is Akiyama
And just last year he almost got knocked out by a near-shot Wandy.
He’s a good MW who would get crumpled by Anderson Silva.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
wanderlei is washed up, as in cant take a punch but that doesnt mean he stil cant hit hard. Bisping v anderson would be a brutal beating but it would also mean theres a possibility that the UK would get a good headliner instead of the pure and utter shit thats been delivered recently. i never thought id see the day that the main events are leben/munoz, mir/nog and le/belfort. it will be shamrock/kimo 2 next
by The Prototype on Sep 12, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I root for Bisping on the sole basis of him getting to fight Anderson.
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by mountaineers101 on Sep 12, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Pearson easily cut?
I wouldn’t say he’s teflon but he surely can’t be on thin ice. Two FOTN’s. Last fight could’ve gone his way…
I would also argue that Daley isn’t a top 3 British fighter. Hathaway deserves some respect too.
You read that wrong.
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by SSreporters on Sep 12, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
he is definitively a UFC top 10 caliber, he had some very improved TDD against Woodley, if he keeps improving he could be a title contender, but then again he will never……EVER have the ability to stop GSP’s takedown, because GSP wont take a chance and it would just be like GSP-Hardy again
He just lost to Tyron Woodley
How is he UFC top 10 caliber?
I think he’d lose to virtually all of the current UFC top 10.
Based on SBN rankings that would be:
GSP, Fitch, Shields, Diaz, Condit, Penn, Koscheck, Story, Alves, Brenneman. He’s already lost to 3 of the top 10 with two of them by finishes. I’d only take him over Brenneman and possibly Story but that’s it.
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by SSreporters on Sep 12, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And outside of the top 10 I'd think Rumble and Ellenberger would pose him some serious problems
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
It is funny how the real guy, the guy with the money, the real boss behind the scenes, is the coolest guy and the front man can be a bit of a problem.
Why is it funny Paul? If you have the money, you pay somebody else to fire people for you…it works the same way in every big company out there. Seriously? What is he trying to do? Bypass Dana White into the fucking UFC????
by Gisele Federico Navarro Mendez on Sep 12, 2011 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
dana needs to stop cutting real fighters
and start cutting boring lay n pray wrestlers or boring wrestlers in general after a win OR loss.
Real fighters don't let the bell end the fight
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by Chris Groves on Sep 12, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
This^
Is the worst comment of the day.
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by MMArazorback on Sep 12, 2011 3:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
JUST BLEED
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
by Charles Awad on Sep 12, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
lay n pray wrestlers are the biggest waste of space on a fight card
real fighters don’t let the judges tell you who won
Then why is your name TheRassler? Unless this is Sonnen Trollando.
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by mountaineers101 on Sep 12, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they actually got him into a perfect position where they don't need to bring him back
He got into the top 10 I believe while in the UFC. He was released when he was in the #10 spot…he was in a very relevant spot being so high.
SF grabbed him up and he went on a 4 fight win streak before fighting Diaz. Had he beat Diaz, bringing him back would have been a hard thing not to do. Diaz was like #7 or something at the time
He lost to Diaz, dropped in ranking, and they booked him against Woodley. He also lost to Woodley, who was #36….and now Daley is down in the #22 spot, dropping from #12.
He is lower in the rankings then the two top guys currently in Bellator. There isn’t anyway for him to fight the top ranked guys unless they bring him back. He isn’t near the top and unless he goes to Bellator can’t get anywhere near the top…so there is no big demand to get him back.
They can just let him keep missing weight and beating up random dudes and slowly fade into obscurity.
No one fighter can win in the long term against the UFC. Fedor is a prime example, while he was #1, everyone was crazy(myself included) about getting him to the UFC to add credibility to that division.
But the UFC promotes fights, not fighters. They have divisions that lost beyond any single fighter’s career. Fedor was going to lose eventually, and the rest of the best guys are always going to be in the UFC.
Paul Daley is nowhere near as relevant as Fedor was, I don’t see him getting another shot…especially not while he keeps missing weight and talking trash.
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His wrestling, at least defensively, is actually pretty good. Woodley went something like 2/15 on takedowns in their fight, with one of the TDs coming off of a knee strike or something. IIRC, one time he got back up relatively quickly; it was just the one time he was taken down and kept there. Just this weekend he kept Jordan Radev (Olympic wrestler) from taking him down for two rounds before finally succumbing in the third. Koscheck did make him look silly, but that doesn’t mean his wrestling sucks.
by Jeffigatame on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You have a point.
If you wear a hat nobody will be able to see it.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Daley is lying
I distinctly remember a Dana vlog where he and his crew are seen hanging out with Dana on some couches and chumming around watching videos while Dana previews clips and listens to tracks people want to use. They seemed very friendly with one another, too.
Daley has never put it into certain terms (indicating the exact times they’re communicated in person), but now that he has he comes out looking like a liar.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
I was about to say the same thing. He comes to the UFC office with his whole group and spends some time talking to Dana where Dana asks him how he’s doing, says good luck and all of that. Dana White is far from perfect but I’m pretty sure Daley is in no position to question anyone’s character when he misses weight every other fight and sucker punched someone after the bell.
Yeah, I mean, even with all that aside
He’s clearly lying when the video is out there for everyone to see. Wish I could remember which one it was and link it.
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
by Charles Awad on Sep 12, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It was Dana's blogs leading up to UFC 108.
Daley tells him “I’m not only the baddest British motherfucker in the company, I’m the baddest motherfucker period” or something like that. They seemed to get along great.
Good call
Remember all those folks that said WEC lightweights simply wouldn't be able to hang in the UFC? Yeah.......
by Charles Awad on Sep 12, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Daley should just move up to MW
and fight Vitor.
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by underrated ground game on Sep 12, 2011 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
Look up "Foot in Mouth", u will see a picture of Paul Daley.
This ass clown will never be coming back to the UFC. Not just because: 1) he’s not that great or 2) he can’t make weight, but 3) He won’t SHUT THE FUCK UP! – Dana holds the keys to the kingdom bro!
But from what I can tell:
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Didn't Daley come in heavy for the Hazlett fight?
And he still got a bonus?
Lame.
GSP is an alien sent here to humiliate our men and mate with our women
Daley improved his TD defense alot
And anyone who can fairly beat Kampmann belongs in the ufc.
In a rematch- Martin beats him. He made the mistake of trying to stand with him.
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by poundnground on Sep 12, 2011 4:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He beats him in rematch?
Martin is a nice defensive grappler with gopdd jitz but dont get it twisted he would have no choice but to stand with Daley. Daley was stuffing take downs from Woodley. Martin kampmann would have no chance of taking him down.
Agree to disagree.
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by poundnground on Sep 12, 2011 5:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
woodley is an overrated prospect
Kampmann is a legit contender who has fought a far higher level of competition. I guess since Hendo couldn’t stuff Shielkds, GSP couldn’t either?
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by sitnam90 on Sep 12, 2011 6:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
IMO, he'll never be back in the UFC
He doesn’t make weight, His attitude sucks, And when he fights complete/smart fighters he can’t beat them. He’s fine where he’s at now. He’s a huge threat in the UK mma scene where wrestlers don’t really exist. Everyone out here’s figured out how to beat him already.
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by poundnground on Sep 12, 2011 4:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well...
When you try beating people (who are better than you) at their game… Yes, you’re a dumb fighter. Daley has ridiculous ko power, so why stand with him?
Shields is a bad ass on the ground, so why try to outgrapple/submit the wrestling submission guy? To prove a point? He lost both those fights. He had the sub and takedown defense to keep the fight standing against shields. He also had the ground game to take Daley down and submit him. See what I mean?
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by poundnground on Sep 12, 2011 5:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm a huge Kampmann fan
And I pretyty much agree with all of this. Martin has the skillset to beat anybody (except GSP) but he has been prone to stupid mental mistakes
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by sitnam90 on Sep 12, 2011 6:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, he must not think he has even a remote chance of fighting in the UFC.
Dana is really going to hate the guy after he basically calls him a dick. He should of taken the chance to kiss as much ass as possible. I mean this is his full time job!
by Fedornuthugger on Sep 12, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Paul Daley must really love fighting the Jordan Radevs of the world if he keeps running his mouth about Dana. I don’t think BAMMA is putting up big money, so I think he’d be best served to join the new Dana White version of the Kiss My Ass Club.
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by mountaineers101 on Sep 12, 2011 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
In fairness his fights are pretty entertaining
Saturday 10 Semptember 2011. Carl Noons vs Jack Marshman. That Fght Delivered
by Our Bovine Public on Sep 12, 2011 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
I'm pretty sure this isn't unique to Daley
Dana and Lorenzo are clearly playing good cop/bad cop with everything from PR to negotiating.
Head conductor of the Charles Oliveira hype train.
Daley deserves Dana's disdain.
The guy sucker punched another fighter after a fight, in the Octagon! We’re talking about a sport that has a negative connotation following it at all times. The UFC has been fighting the image that the general public has about it for 10 years, and then you have an idiot like Daley adding to the idea that all the fighters are jackasses that attack people after the period where he had his chance to punch Koscheck all he wanted. As a fighter, I would watch Daley any time. As a man and a human being, he deserves to be banned.
These sound arguments and relevant prognostications are getting in the way of my trolling......
It's strange
That Paul says he’s only spoken to Dana a couple of times. He makes it sound like they were quick, “passing in the hallway” encounters too.
I’m pretty sure in one of Dana White’s video blogs, Paul Daley was sitting in an office with him. It wasn’t long after the Condit/Daley fight was scrapped and the guy with the camera asked him who he wanted next, and Daley called out Condit in the video blog saying “anytime, anywhere, I want Condit”. Dana White immediatly responded with something like “This is why I love this kid, he’ll fight any one at any time and it’ll be exciting” or something to that effect.
Maybe it’s because he sucker punched Kos after the bell that made Dana dislike him. I mean..I’m a huge Daley fan and I can understand Dana not wanting that in the UFC. I’d love to see him back, but I dont see it happening.
"Honestly, I've got nothing against Josh Koscheck personally........but the guy's just a dickhead"-Paul Daley
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