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Judo Chop: Josh Barnett and Unorthodox Submissions

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I think many are expecting Josh Barnett to handily beat Sergei Kharitonov tonight in the main event of Strikeforce and the semi-finals of the ill fated Heavyweight Grand Prix. Kharitanov is potentially dangerous on the feet and obviously has a punchers chance, but the most predictable outcome is Barnett getting a submission on the ground.

Barnett finished Brett Rogers in round 2 when they fought in Texas by Arm Triangle and in a previous Judo Chop I went over the intricacies of that fight I dubbed 'Invisible Grappling'. This time though I thought I'd highlight some of the lesser seen submissions he pulled off when competing in No Gi Submission Grappling tournaments in 2009 and 2010. Some you may already be familiar with, while others you may not have seen at all.

Join me after the jump as we'll look at animated gifs and video of some of Josh Barnett's unorthodox submissions.

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Barnett-kneebar_medium Stepover Kneebar

While the Kneebar is fairly familiar to those that watch MMA we often see it from open guard work like Frank Mir vs Brock Lesnar 1 or sometimes from rolling attacks when an opponent tries to take your back. Lesser seen because of the risk involved is the Stepover Kneebar when inside an opponent's Half-Guard. There is a risk of getting swept if you are too close to them, but in this gif we see while Barnett's opponent tries for a basic sweep early on Barnett stands high enough to swing his leg over without it getting caught up after winning the hand-fight on the ground to begin with. The safer option usually is to Back-Step kneebar so you free leg doesn't get wrapped up by the opponent's arms resulting in the same seated position before you drop back for the kneebar. Also worth noting is how Barnett falls almost on to his opponent's face. The reason for this and why it's beneficial is that it stretches out the hamstring before you extend the knee joint making it much harder for the opponent to contract and resist the extension. Sometimes when we see kneebars they're in a position where the hamstring is relaxed and while possible to finish it's easier to get a tap when working the hamstring, especially with less flexible opponents.

 

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Crossface Neck Crank

This submission caught Barnett's opponent off-guard when the grappled in February 2009. Barnett is riding heavy on his side and his opponent, a Gracie Barra BJJ Blackbelt is desperately trying to shrimp in and regain some form of guard. Unfortunately his head is exposed and while maintaining weight on his upper back Barnett Bars the face and turns the head while cranking up forcing his opponent to tap. What's worth noting that in order for Barnett to maintain weight his hips are off the ground forcing is opponent to carry all of his weight without the floor sharing the load as it would if Barnett had been lazy and not elevated. Barnett's opponent was a bit sore after the match, and Barnett being a good sport actually gave him a quick and free chiropractic adjustment to make sure he was OK!

Sometimes this move can be done with the arm scissored but Barnett was able to do it without. Here's a photo of Barnett showing the crank at Lockflow.com

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Reverse Pillow V-Arm Lock

This is a fun option from modified side control / Broken Scarfhold / Kuzure Kesagatame. Barnett is fighting a Brown belt in the advanced Heavyweight (205lbs+) class. The name of the move comes from the Japanese Catch  Wrestling lineage such as Shooto and refers to the cradling of the head (to prevent a bridge) with an arm that reaches over and into the opponent's armpit in a similar way to the Stockade position. With his other arm Barnett has a Single Top Wrist Lock grip and while lifting the head Barnett rotates the arm back and away to effect the shoulder and elbow joint, making a V shape with the arm. I have seen some BJJ referees claim that it's a neck crank and therefore illegal but that's a case of the referees being ignorant over lesser seen submissions that exist outside of orthodox Jiu Jitsu. It's deffinitely the shoulder and elbow that gets the pressure while the neck gets a slight tug, less than what would be felt in a good guillotine choke. Barnett's positioning is such that he goes for the far side V-arm and not the near which is fairly unique and I'd have thought more difficult to pull off

Here's a closer look of the regular Pillow V-Armlock aka V-1 lock attacking the near arm with Combatchaz of Lockflow.com. Notice how he has the hand and is twisting the arm out and away from the body - while it's possible to get a tap from the shoulder stress, it's easier to get it from the elbow stress.

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Barnett-toehold_mediumInverted Reverse Toehold

This one is particularly nasty. Barnett has side control and is gripping the arm making his opponent think that's what he's going to attack and keeping his mind focused there. When his opponent brings in his legs near enough to bridge and shrimp-in Barnett grabs the foot at the toes and twists the leg inwards, torquing the knee just like a heelhook. It's a move that will catch many off guard and is one I've seen Billy Robinson like to use.

Here Brandon Ruiz  - BJJ Blackbelt, Greco Roman Wrestler and all around Submission Grappler - shows some instruction on the Inverted Reverse Toehold he picked up from Jake Shannon, assistant coach to Billy Robinson based in Utah and founder of Scientific Wrestling:


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This all looks uber complicated. But then again I don’t know the first thing about catch wrestling. Though there’s a video floating around about Sakuraba and Carlos Newton where it names each move they did to each other. Idk if Zuffa took it down though.

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by Krimson on Sep 10, 2011 12:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It all comes down to, what do you practice is what you see

Coming from an amateur wrestling background, I look at some of these and think, “Wow, that’s a pretty nasty variation of…” some similar amateur move. In some cases, he’s combining techniques wrestlers use.

Funny thing is, I bet a lot of BJJ gus watch the same gif and think the same thing, but about a different part of the move.

I look at that V-1 lock and see a nasty half with that arm thing thrown in, and I’m guessing a BJJ practitioner sees the armlock with the right arm thrown in for good measure. I see a finish Brock Lesnar should have used in Mir II with his own single-arm full-nelson, and a BJJ guy is seeing something he might try on his next kimura attempt.

Josh’s grappling is something else, that’s for sure.

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by duck on Sep 10, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah basically

The stockade is a reverse half nelson with a pry. Amateur wrestling is the descendant of catch after all :-)

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by KJ Gould on Sep 10, 2011 3:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Larger gifs would be nice.

Bit tough to see what’s going on here. Still interesting.

What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.

by lowellthehammer on Sep 10, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

YOU dubbed invisable grappling??//

You mean you swagger jacked, Rickson’s and Estima’s " Invisible Jiu Jitsu ".
Haven’t you Europeans stolen enough from South America! :-p

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by the-gentle-way on Sep 10, 2011 12:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

what round is Barrnett getting the sub tonight?

I say Rnc in the second.

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by the-gentle-way on Sep 10, 2011 12:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Second is possible

I’m not sure what by. I’ve never really seen him go for RNC’s, though. Would love to see a leglock.

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by KJ Gould on Sep 10, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just imagine him slamming him.

Mounting him. Pounding him. He turns over to his back and josh Chokes him.

I hope he hits that side control toe hold. That shit is sneaky. I remember he went to a local California tourney and murdered people. He caught a dude in the finals with that. Iirc

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by the-gentle-way on Sep 10, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Doubt you'll see that. He played it safe on the ground against Rogers of all people.

And if you do Khari will beat the hell out of him for his troubles.

What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.

by lowellthehammer on Sep 10, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen the step over knee bar

but the rest of these I’d not. I like the shoulder lock, alot, trying that tomorrow.

The other two are so simple it is kind genius, but look like they require a fair amount of strength.

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by T.P. Grant on Sep 10, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

that shoulder lock is a weight class move. if they are stronger its hard to control one arm with one arm.

Josh has awesome leg locks.

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by the-gentle-way on Sep 10, 2011 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Grabbing at the hand and twisting

You’d be surprised how much mechanical leverage you have.

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by KJ Gould on Sep 10, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i actually use that move quite a bit.

I think its awesomness, but I am 6’4 190. others have told me they struggle with it on larger people .

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by the-gentle-way on Sep 10, 2011 1:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Holy crap

I remember seeing a thread about this tournament on the UG, and there were gifs of these matches. A bunch of people claimed Barnett’s opponents were nobodies, and it was easy to believe.

To hear they are actually Brown and Black Belts makes Barnett look all the more impressive.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on Sep 10, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Brown and black belts can still be nobodies

But Josh did enter a BJJ tournament and get a leg sub on Otavio Souza, who is a world class player.

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by menckenstein on Sep 10, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love watching Barnett fight.

For me, great grappling is just as fun to watch as a slugfest. I would love to see Barnett vs. Lesnar at some point in the UFC.

by locomike on Sep 10, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Funny… I have this same shitty attitude. I like to huirt my friends too ;)

by troyd on Sep 10, 2011 1:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I could really use Barnett in the UFC. I need heavyweight leglocking madness.

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by Rundownloser on Sep 10, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Barnett/Werdum needs to happen IMO.

Josh has the stones to take a guy like Werdum down. He battled Nog on the ground when that was considered suicide.

What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.

by lowellthehammer on Sep 10, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing. His technique has never looked better. He is a scary dude on the ground. Barnett vs. Werdum would be very interesting. I think Werdum would not be prepared for the unorthodox style of Barnett. I think he will surprise a lot of people in the UFC (if Dana would let him in). Everyone is using RNCs, Triangles, Guillotine chokes etc but seeing Barnett’s arsenal of subs would surely make the HW class a bit uneasy.

I hope Barnett can make a run now while he is still physically able. That would be awesome to see.

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by crizzy on Sep 10, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth.

That’s a real good fight.

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by Rundownloser on Sep 10, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take seeing Barnett vs Roger Gracie in a grappling match

Roger would have to be the favourite of course, just because he’s had so much success in that specific environment.

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by KJ Gould on Sep 10, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

jacare vs josh!

Book it!

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by the-gentle-way on Sep 10, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Another great fight

I’d even like Marcelo Garcia vs Barnett just because of the David and Goliath element. Garcia did face and beat Ricco Rodriguez in the past.

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by KJ Gould on Sep 10, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be huge.

I don’t know how it would go. Estima , roger ,and Jacare deal with Marcelo quite well. That’s a very elite club.

"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."

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"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Sep 10, 2011 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Barnett and Bigfoot are the two deadliest top position fighters in the sport

You better make sure that you don’t get taken down.

If they meet in the final, it’s going to be an amazing fight.

by paythefighters on Sep 10, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Watching all of his incredibly amazing submissions I can’t help but dream of him getting sorted out with California.
I can’t help but wonder why a technical wizard like that felt it necessary to roid it up…
I love great grappling more than a slugfest and he brings it!

by troyd on Sep 10, 2011 1:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Its great to see somebody with such diverse submissions in Heavyweight division

Between Barnett’s experience and unorthodox submissions he is certainly a top 5 fighter in MMA.
His catch wrestling style is certainly a breath of fresh air amongst all the ground and pounders in the division esspecially in the UFC. Nobody really has the talent Josh has in ground wrestling, a fun fighter to watch.

by armbar1 on Sep 10, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Never understood the hype wagon for Sergei tonight.

Barnett is going to pull off a figure-four leglock and strut across the cage with Kharitonov’s soul in hand. Honestly though, I love Barnett, juicer or not. His pro wrestling shtick and style works for me.

by mountaineers101 on Sep 10, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I heard Strikeforce booked the heavyweight finals in San Jose Caliofrnia… No, wait a minute, they can’t do that, what if Josh Barnett wins tonight, he can’t fight on California because of a positive steroid test!! So you can say Strikeforce is at the mercy of Josh Barnett, where they book the finals depends if he wins or not tonight.

I wish I could like the guy but he has never manned up to his mistakes, he always bullshits his way through answers when talking about his positive tests, if he would just admit that he f%$#kin cheated and he is remorseful for it I would respect him more.

by latheman on Sep 10, 2011 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I love watching ground wars

and for the most part i am no expert i perfer to watch Catch style of grappling. Barnett, Saku, Pulson, both shamrocks and all the old UWF. I find it just as effective from a viewers stand point and also ten times more exciting because the catch mentality is attack attack submission over perfect position

by Mark Colemans Takedown coach on Sep 10, 2011 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Alright lathman you wanna talk steroids in MMA/UFC

Just to name a few:
Tim Sylvia, Ken Shamrock, Vitor Belfort, Stephan Bonnar, Royce Gracie, Sean Sherk, Alexandre Nogueira, Antonio Bigfoot Silva,Chris Leben, Chael Sonnen, Thiago Silva etc..

Sure some of these guys would say " Oh, I never thought it would show up, it was a long time ago or Gee, I never thought an over-the-counter drug would have that in it." Come on, you believe that?
They’re all in the same boat.
If there’s big money and they’re conformist they fight again with UFC.
The ones who think for themselves are the ones who unfortunatly now being the UFC monopoly are left out if they’re on Dana’s “badside”. Its very unfortunate for the sport.
But like I said these UFC conformist caught with roids will fight again…
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by armbar1 on Sep 10, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Barnett vs any of the top UFC hw's is a great match.

The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.

by FreeLightningLee on Sep 10, 2011 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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