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UFC 133 Results: Where Do We Go From Here?

UFC 133: Evans vs. Ortiz Poster by Anton Tabuena

Before UFC 108, Mike Chiapetta (then of NBC) stated that the worst shows on paper tend to deliver more than those people are anticipating. Last night proved him correct all these years later. UFC 133 wasn't the card that people wanted, a fact made by the amount of fans and scalpers who were unloading tickets far below face value as the event drew closer. Originally planned to have two title fights, the card soon became a bastardized version of itself with Tito Ortiz saving the PPV by stepping in on short notice. Now a day later, let's take a look at where the fighters and promotion go from here.

Rashad Evans: Besides getting a guaranteed title shot against the winner of Jon Jones vs Quinton Jackson, that was the best Rashad Evans I've ever seen. Before the event I stated that ring rust was not going to be a factor for him and it turned out that I was correct. He looked absolutely incredible and no matter who he fights for the title, I'm excited to see how much more he'll improve with this new camp. 

Tito Ortiz: He has no reason to hang his head. Yes, no one likes losing, but showing up on short notice and saving a doomed card takes cajones. This obviously won't make his sternum hurt any less but this is the Tito Ortiz that everyone should remember. He did this for the fans and the promotion, forever the hero of the UFC. I would have preferred him retiring on the Bader win, but hopefully he walks away with dignity and gets to train up and coming fighters from now on.

Vitor Belfort: Shots to the back of the head aside, this was a great showing by the Phenom. At the post fight press conference he tried to make a case for another title shot against the winner of Anderson Silva vs Yushin Okami. Dana White put the kibosh on that. Instead, I'd like to see him fight the winner of Mark Munoz and Chris Leben.

Yoshihiro Akiyama: He's gotta drop down to welterweight. He looks so small against middleweights and his three fight losing streak shows he can't compete. If he stays at 185, the only fight that really makes sense for anyone at this point is Akiyama vs Wanderlei Silva in Japan. And that's if the promotion gives either fighter another shot.

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Brian Ebersole: Thank you. Hopefully a fight with Mike Pierce is in your future.

Dennis Hallman: What were you thinking? There's not much left for you in the UFC. I expect you to be cut.

Constantinos Philippou: Decent showing on short notice, but left a lot to be desired. Hand speed was slow and he looked gassed in the third. Maybe a fight with Ed Herman?

Jorge Rivera: I like Jorge but I really hope this is the last time we see him in the UFC. He is 39 years old and there's nothing else for him to accomplish in his career. 

Rory MacDonald: This kid is the future of the division and maybe even the sport. He's looked great in his UFC career, including his loss to Condit. The UFC hasn't thrown him to the wolves yet and with teammate Georges St. Pierre sitting at the top of 170, it may be tough to speed up his progress. Maybe a fight with Charlie Brenneman or Rick Story?

Mike Pyle: Back to the drawing board. Looked good early on but just couldn't handle the better fighter. Many may disagree with this, but a fight with Thiago Alves makes sense in my mind. Alves has a name but is no longer the top welterweight we once believed. Or Paulo Thiago. Or even a returning Mike Swick.

Alexander Gustafsson: Kid is the future of 205. People are talking about Jon Jones and Phil Davis. Gustafsson has the physical tools to be a great 205er when he grows into his body. Maybe a returning Thiago Silva? Maybe Rich Franklin now? I dunno, but I like to see where he goes from here. 

Matt Hamill: Looked awful. Won't be cut but he's not as good as the UFC tried to say he was. Maybe the winner of Vera/Marshall?

Chad Mendes: Title Shot against either Florian or Aldo. I like either match up and this kid has developed from a boring wrestler to a pretty complete fighter. 

Rani Yahya: Probably the wrestling mats. Those shots were atrocious. He needs to figure out how to get a fight to the ground. Training with some wrestlers will help.

The Rest of the Card: Menjivar, Brown, Natal, and Hendricks live to fight another day. Nam Phan got jobbed again by the judges (should have been scored a draw), Paul Bradley probably gets cut, Pace and Pierce get another shot.

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the more i read matt's stuff.......

The more obvious it is he hasn’t been watching mma all that long. I guess you have to start somewhere.

by Nick Travaglini on Aug 7, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rory MacDonald: This kid is the future of the division and maybe even the sport. He’s looked great in his UFC career, including his loss to Condit. The UFC hasn’t thrown him to the wolves yet and with teammate Georges St. Pierre sitting at the top of 170, it may be tough to speed up his progress. Maybe a fight with Charlie Brenneman or Rick Story?

Condit isn’t the wolves?

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by Goonisis on Aug 7, 2011 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Diaz is not bad either. He has been given pretty high level opponents and has looked great.

I was thinking Rory vs. hendricks if they are gonna give him a wrestler or maybe vs. Alves or Paulo Thiago if you want him to fight non-wrestlers

by IRodC on Aug 7, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If he's going to be a mainstay at the top of the division...

he’s gonna need to beat wrasslers. I love the Hendricks fight. If people think that’s a step down, then give him the Diego-Hughes winner.

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by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 7, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Hendricks is perfect. Good wrestler with power.

Hughes-Diego winner I think would probably get destroyed on the feet.

by IRodC on Aug 7, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be down with

him fighting Diego if he beats Hughes, I highly doubt that’s a fight either man would be interested in though. Kos has some huge balls, maybe when he gets back to 170 they’ll do Rory vs him.

by TMadeBurner on Aug 7, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poor Paulo Thiago

all anyone wants to do is have him fight killers. Kos, Swick, Fitch, Kampmann and Sanchez were all to start his UFC run. I know he had Volkmann in there too but after Mitchell I wouldn’t mind seeing him get someone else who is maybe on the mid-tier of the welterweight division.

by TMadeBurner on Aug 7, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Volkmann was a replacement for Thiago Alves, who pulled out due to injury.

Kos, Fitch, Alves, Swick, Kampmann, Sanchez was what they intended to do, starting at his debut.

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by pdl on Aug 7, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what you get for knocking out Kos apparently. Jeesh.

by TMadeBurner on Aug 7, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thiago was blatantly brought in to lose to Koscheck

So the UFC punished him.

I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.

by SSreporters on Aug 7, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't quite remember

was Thiago a late replacement for someone in the Kos fight?

by TMadeBurner on Aug 7, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No that was a planned main card fight

They gave Kos seemingly easy fights because he stepped up on short notice for them twice.

I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.

by SSreporters on Aug 7, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paulo Thiago is the anti-Amir Sadollah

I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.

by SSreporters on Aug 7, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Paulo himself still didn't give a fuck

’cause his schedule at his other job is something like Shootout, Drug Bust, Death Threat, Shootout.

My name isn't Todd.

by Tedd Welch on Aug 7, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You really love the "batardized version of itself line..."

when describing this event, huh?

"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."

"Do you lie awake alone at night, admiring my gash?"
-Lord Varys

by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 7, 2011 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

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by Matthew Roth on Aug 7, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

bastardized is a great word.

"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."

"Do you lie awake alone at night, admiring my gash?"
-Lord Varys

by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 7, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're the only one that thought Chad Mendez looked "complete"

Most people felt like he looked somewhere between “hesitant” and “lost” on offense.

by IRH on Aug 7, 2011 2:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Someone mentioned in another thread

Someone tweeted that Joe Silva said they’re gonna make Fitch/MacDonald at San Jose(UFC 139?)

"Last time a Russian hit a brother that hard, Ivan Drago killed Apollo Creed"- Some guy on Sherdog, referencing Fedor vs Rogers

by Lulz McGee on Aug 7, 2011 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Mauro, but he was joking

by IRodC on Aug 7, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't Mauro.....

I can’t remember his name started with a C?

I saw a screen cap on the UG…..could’ve been a ’shop.

"Last time a Russian hit a brother that hard, Ivan Drago killed Apollo Creed"- Some guy on Sherdog, referencing Fedor vs Rogers

by Lulz McGee on Aug 7, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn you Chael Sonnen

Keep your schtick out of match making rumors, will ya?

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by KJ Gould on Aug 7, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was mauro.

"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."

"Do you lie awake alone at night, admiring my gash?"
-Lord Varys

by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 7, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

perfect chance...

For the ufc to let Phil Davis get another experience fight before throwing him back into contention. Feed him Tito while Tito’s stock is still somewhat ok.

by psuwrestler99 on Aug 7, 2011 2:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I dont think Phan got jobbed..

He got dominated by Brown in the first. He did nothing at all except eat punches in the face and get controlled on the ground. He won the 2nd round clearly and then the 3rd Mike Brown edged him with his overhands and control.

Phan’s striking is pretty fun when hes able to let his hands go. I’d like to see him get his rematch with Garcia.

by Tats16 on Aug 7, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you

I thought that Phan’s fight was a draw as well.

Let the fighters fight, let the referees ref, but dear God, don't let the judges judge.

by halitosis on Aug 7, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t want to criticize but it sounds like your just writing articles like your speaking to someone. Sentence structure is bad in all your articles as well as the flow of the articles.

Please don’t take this as bashing just more like constructive criticism.

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by The Omaplatapus on Aug 7, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

It's fair criticism which has been noted in the past about Matthew Roth's writing.

What gets me is the random use of capitals.

Title Shot? Really?

This should take care of that.

by Wonderjudas on Aug 7, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Constantino looked really good against Jorge

Especially for a last minute replacement.

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by Chris Hall on Aug 7, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Not really a last minute replacement......

He was already scheduled for the card, they just switched him to fight Rivera instead of Natal.

by mouse9379 on Aug 7, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Tito gets at least another payday...

Thinking either someone like a Franklin, Vera, Maybe a Luiz Cane, as a co-main or middle of main card.

by DrFernando on Aug 7, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep
Mike Chiapetta (then of NBC) stated that the worst shows on paper tend to deliver more than those people are anticipating

Just like UFC 122, 33, 85, TUF 12 Finale, and 90? It’s more of a hit-and-miss than people think.

I’m not liking this line of thinking.

I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.

by SSreporters on Aug 7, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's what I'm guessing

Rashad – Finally gets his title shot. He looked awesome. He held every advantage on paper but you know what? So didn’t Ryan Bader.

Tito – Rich Franklin. Neither has a shot another title run, both guys were UFC posterboys and it’s an easy fight to sell. It lets one of them get back on track.

Ebersole – Since the UFC hates Jon Fitch and he recently had his chance at a marquee win with Penn I wouldn’t be surprised to see the UFC do this.

Hallman – I don’t care and thus have no opinion.

Gustafsson – Tough one to figure out. Do they give him Bonnar? Do they cannibalize a prospect and have him fight Davis? I doubt any of the big names would be looking to take that fight, I could see a Tito fight here too. I don’t think Ace is interested.

Hamill – Bader. I think this fight makes a ton of sense.

MacDonald – I’d love to see him take on Rumble sometime in the near future.

by TMadeBurner on Aug 7, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

MacDonald VS. Rumble. Yes please.

Kimbo wants to take your caterpiller and do bad things to it.

by Mr.Kib on Aug 7, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gustafason already lost to Davis! By anaconda choke.

by J smooth 420 on Aug 7, 2011 3:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yep

And after that fight, Gustafsson started training with Davis.

by Jeffigatame on Aug 7, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

See

I completely forgot about that. So scratch that idea. Maybe have him fight, uh, well I dunno. Let’s say Bonnar then.

by TMadeBurner on Aug 7, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or the Janitor. He’s coming off a nice KO win.

by TMadeBurner on Aug 7, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he was already scheduled to face him at this event before he got hurt.

by the guy with the big nose on Aug 7, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking of MacDonald v Hendricks, it seems to make sense. You seem like you are sleeping on Hendricks, he is 6-1 in UFC, with quality wins over Pierce, and Brenneman.

by dpk875 on Aug 7, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought that was the best Rashad Evans I've ever ever seen,too.

But then somebody reminded me of who he was fighting. Tito Ortiz.

Just Breed!

by ScoreCardOTN on Aug 7, 2011 3:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Herman is booked for Milwaukee next Sunday

so how about Chris Weidman or Aaron Simpson for Phillipou

Matt Janecek
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An MBA on MMA: mixed martial arts thru the lens of business
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by mjanecek on Aug 7, 2011 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d rather see Weidman get a better fighter.

by TMadeBurner on Aug 7, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weidman and Simpson

are both booked as well.

by Scott Haber on Aug 7, 2011 3:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Roth, I scored the Brown - Phan fight a draw as well

did you have the first round 10-8 and give the 2nd and 3rd to Phan?

Matt Janecek
MBA Candidate, 2011
An MBA on MMA: mixed martial arts thru the lens of business
mba-mma.blogspot.com

by mjanecek on Aug 7, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Johnny Hendricks lives to fight another day?

Are you kidding me? He is 6-1 in the UFC, with a sole loss to a top ten welterweight who barely edged him. He is certainly higher up the totem pole with Mike Pyle who you are matching up with a bunch of names at welterweight.

by Stiff Jab on Aug 7, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

How does Paul Bradley get cut?

He fought above his weight class on short notice in his UFC debut.

by HaterSlayer on Aug 7, 2011 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

So the answer according to Matt Roth is.....

Get rid of everybody?

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Aug 8, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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