Joe Son Found Guilty of Torture Charge Stemming From 1990 Rape
by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 30, 2011 10:31 AM EDT
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There was a time for MMA fans when the mention of Joe Son would be met with laughter and either a mention of his being repeatedly punched in the groin by Keith Hackney at UFC 4 or showing up in an animal print thong at a PRIDE event. A turn as Random Task in the first Austin Powers movie further endeared him to many fans.
The Joe Son saga has taken a very dark turn in recent years though. After being arrested for an unrelated charge, a DNA sample taken from Joe matched DNA collected at the scene of a gang rape which took place Christmas Eve of 1990. Last week he was found guilty of the charges, and now faces a max sentence of 15 years-to-life. E! Online has the very disturbing details:
The rape occurred on Dec. 24, 1990 at approximately 12:30 a.m. when the unidentified victim was walking back to her apartment alone with her dog after going to look at Christmas lights with a relative and friend.
Per the Orange County District Attorney's Office, Son distracted the woman by asking for directions and pretending he was lost. Son and co-defendant, Santiago Gaitan, then dragged her to their car and threw her in the back. After pistol whipping her and telling her they were driving to Compton, the men instead drove to Huntington Beach where they raped her repeatedly, sodomized her and forced her to give them oral sex.
The D.A. also stated that Son also threatened to kill her, penetrated her vagina with a firearm, and counted the bullets in the gun out loud while the victim pleaded for her life.
Unfortunately, the statute of limitations on the rape and forcible sodomy charges passed which forced the prosecution to only pursue torture and conspiracy to commit murder. He was found guilty on the torture chare.
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Hopefully he will be getting a lot more of this from now on:
by JeremyShane on Aug 30, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Fist of Justice!
The North remembers...
Would you like Freys with that?
by iiowyn on Aug 30, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
keith hackney Knew what he what Joe was up to, and tried to put a stop to it
by tkired on Aug 30, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
this may be a really dumb question
But what exactly does this
Unfortunately, the statute of limitations on the rape and forcible sodomy charges passed
mean?
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Thanks.
That seems like a really stupid thing. Reading what he did he should def be getting charged for both who cares how long ago it was.
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No problem
Agreed. I’m surprised there’s a statute of limitations for rape and forcibly sodomy at all.
by Damnatio Memoriae on Aug 30, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
It exists for a few reasons..
DNA can degrade over time and will become unreliable, amongst other things. There is a reason it exists and it’s a very good set of reasons.
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yea, and the reasons aren’t so good
by JeremyShane on Aug 30, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
They are if you ever plan to be a rapist, or a defense attorney. Otherwise you know they just plan suck.
by Empty Thoughts on Aug 30, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If you care about innocent people staying out of jail
Then you can be damn sure they are good. Witnesses memories in particular are easy to manipulate over time, memory fades and changes. Victims don’t have to worry about getting dragged into a legal battle over something they would prefer to move on from decades later. Police forces can’t use the lack of prosecution of a minor offense as a threat over the head of the accused, especially if it means they are given effective carte blanche on running over the accused rights. Plus people will clog up the system over petty crimes when it should be providing closure for real victims.
Crimes such as this also have loopholes. Sexual assault covers a variety of crimes, and is thus not considered heinous, the ones that are horrifying like this one can usually be chalked up to different charges anyway. The justice system is pretty flexible with stuff like that.
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i wanted to make a 'dna can degrade over time' joke
but it didnt seem appropriate here. sick fuck.
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by gspmademegay on Aug 30, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Statute of limitations is the maximum number of years that is allowed to pass before someone can no longer be charged for a crime.
It is like if someone attacked a person and they died 2 years later from one of the injuries the person caused, then they could be charged with murder. However, if they died 40 years later then the person couldn’t be charged because the statute of limitation has passed.
No statute of limitations on Murder
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I was not aware there was a statute of limitations on rape. that is BS. This dude is a grade a piece of garbage. Anyone that would do that to someone deserves the death penalty IMO.
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by crizzy on Aug 30, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Giving him a life sentence is a better punishment than the death penalty in my opinion.
Dude’s gonna die in prison.
Most death row guys spend a few years in prison before their execution anyway.
Either way, best to keep this guy off the streets.
Just awful.
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Hopefully he is murdered in prison
by SplitBreast on Aug 30, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed on Death penalty thing.
Costs to much to keep him in prison. And what he did is absolutely ridiculous. The last part about counting bullets in the gun is just infuriating that someone would actually do
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actually
Costs of death row mount up due to appeal process. Some guys can be on death row for years
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by KJ Gould on Aug 30, 2011 11:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
Well I learned a lot in this thread already. So basically its costing us either way….unless he gets sent to one of those working prisons. but how many of those are there?
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The average length of time for a death row inmate to be executed is over a decade.
by Strikeboxer on Aug 30, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, it’s actually much more expensive to put someone on death row. I am not looking at the numbers right now, but I think I remember the average length of time on death row is like 18 years and it costs around 3 million dollars with the 3 appeals they are allowed, and it only costs 750k to put someone in jail for life.
just that part?
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by gspmademegay on Aug 30, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the statute of limitations in rape came into play before DNA evidence existed.
I think the idea was that testimony might be cloudy. Given how long it often take victims to disclose what happened, this is complete BS.
I mean if I am a wealthy business man and I raped somebody 20 years ago, it is obviously a flaw in the legal system if somebody charges me right
When there is honest to goodness proof of something like this, there should be no statute of limitations.
I hate that we have to pay 30k/year
For inexcusable pieces of sh!t like this dirt bag. 15 years minimum at that clip is wasting 450k. Just kill him. He doesn’t deserve to be locked up in jail. I wish there were a real life Dexter for losers like this donkey fluffer
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by Austin Martin on Aug 30, 2011 11:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
PS you guys ever see law abiding citizen? I’d love to get some of these creeps in the set up Gerard Butler had that guy in on the table.
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by Austin Martin on Aug 30, 2011 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thankfully our judicial system isn't that of Burma's or whatever country you'd like it to be.
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by Jonathan. on Aug 30, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
definitely.
Thankfully we have the means to spend much more per year feeding and keeping these dirtbags healthy instead of feeding starving children or providing help and free care for homeless people. Definitely money well spent.
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by Austin Martin on Aug 30, 2011 11:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Easy to say since it wasn't your sister, mother or daughter.
Would you still say, oh statute of limitations has passed, sorry?
by Fedornuthugger on Aug 30, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I consider rape to be a form of torture.
So the fact that there is a statute of limitations on it and not torture is ridiculous. These laws have to be updated to keep up with science.
by pud333 on Aug 30, 2011 11:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
GOOD LORD!!
That is on some sadistic shit
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We really don't need to take this to trial. We have an easy solution.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 30, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m sorry, but this shit pisses me off. Rape/rapist are horrible, horrible people to me. They’re some of the worst pieces of shit on Earth. I watch that show To Catch a Predator, and this may sound fucked up, but I would much rather my 13 year old daughter be a complete dumbass and voluntarily invite a predator into her bedroom than one showing up unannounced.
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by SentientAndroid on Aug 30, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions
*reply fail
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by SentientAndroid on Aug 30, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So basically what I'm getting from this thread so far
…is that a lot of people who’ve posted weirdly graphic examples of what they’d like to do to Son want to be a cross between Dirty Harry, Rutger Hauer in Hobo With A Shotgun and the old dude with cancer from Saw.
You seen the human centipede?
That’s where this guy should end up…. By the way don’t watch that movie. If you are interested just watch the South Park. Horrible snuff film, that ruined my soul but a good place for trash like Son.
Isn't a snuff film
A film where people can die in the making, or horrible things happen to them in reality? Pretty sure they wouldn’t allow that in blockbuster.
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Thats the way to go. Duct tape em to the wheel of the car and cut off their ears.
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It makes me sick to my stomach thinking that a daughter of mine could be the victim of something so horrible
Rot in jail you piece of shit
by KidCanada on Aug 30, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
My sister was a rape victim as has been a couple of women I know. It isn’t something that has a statute of limitations and it’s fucking ridiculous that the crime itself does. :/
by Empty Thoughts on Aug 30, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry guys
Those rapist get the right treatment in prison.
I've heard other inmates are brutal to them
Torture that asshole, other horrible criminals.
Let the fighters fight, let the referees ref, but dear God, don't let the judges judge.
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by RolloTomasi on Aug 30, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
random task
You filthy son of a bitch. Should be executed by groin strikes
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It appears that you’re the perfect man for the job!
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by SentientAndroid on Aug 30, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What a vile, little piece of shit. I second the motion for execution by groin strikes.
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by Doomrider on Aug 30, 2011 6:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
joes chamber will be gettn tortured!!!!!!!!hehe
When i first read the story about joe’s charges,i admit i wasn’t sure what to think.Maybe this was a woman crying wolf cuz he is a public figure of some sorts.Now that he has been found guilty of the charges that time still allowed,i believe he is a total f..k up.I remember joe commn to the ring draggn the big wooden cross,like he was the second coming of christ himself.What a complete moron.He will be remembered for this instead of his days as a mediocre fighter.Joe is no longer a former ufc fighter.Joe is a piece of crap woman abuser.Someone in the cali system is goin to have the ugliest bitch, but will at least have clean laundry!lol
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