Cheap Plug: Catch Wrestling United
Outside of Bloody Elbow and working in real life, I try to run my own blog. Sometimes things just don't fit on Bloody Elbow because things like UFC take priority (obviously). CWU is my place to jot down thoughts that otherwise don't have a place here though hopefully with the developing Grappling Section of which there should eventually be a tab, that will change.
In the mean time check out bits of news, editorial, techniques and random videos of interest I come across and I'm tyring to have at least one thing up there a day. There's also a discussion board and you can follow the site on facebook and twitter.
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I posted the judo chop
But not the post fight thoughts. I’m not sure on copyright posting something in more than one place even if I authored it.
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by KJ Gould on Aug 31, 2011 6:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you can always just link to your blog
if you posted it there first. and say something like, “over at CWU, I made the case for blahblah” then blockquote it.
by Anton Tabuena on Sep 1, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess
Don’t want to be accused of abusing my position on BE doing that though.
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by KJ Gould on Sep 1, 2011 4:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cheap plug?
If linking to your amazing blog after contributing a wealth of knowledge to BE is a cheap plug, I’d like to know what a valuable plug is. You’re doing a service with all of your writing. Keep it up.
Nice
Going on my daily ‘to check’ list.
Interesting piece on Okami’s failure. Just feel like you’ve got to be a freestyle wrestler to pressure Anderson – greco is just too dangerous against a guy who’s so accurate and good at the thai clinch.
I don't think that's necessarily true
Okami didn’t come close to utilising the clinch in the fullest. Whether Thai or Greco, it’s still all the clinch game.
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by KJ Gould on Aug 31, 2011 10:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Okami didn’t seem to give it 100 % in the clinch, which sucked, as he definitely could have given Silva a lot of trouble. BTW, great site at catch wrestling united, only problem is your spelling of Oklahoma.
by Colin Paul Kowlessar on Aug 31, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, oops
I swear I’m a bit dyslexic
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question from a fairly new fan, still learning
Whats the difference between Catch Wrestling, BJJ, Submission Grappling, and the other “ground arts”???
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by Sean in Vancouver on Aug 31, 2011 12:39 AM EDT reply actions
The rulesets and focuses are different.
Catch style wrestling is a submission grappling style which, in one word, could be describe as just plain old MEAN. Crushing top game, gnarly joint locks (CSW is especially known for it’s leglocks) & chokes, and a focus on physical domination.
BJJ is the style of grappling which focuses primarily on ground work, and was adopted from Judo (which itself was made from Jiu- Jutsu, taking out the strength based moves and focusing on those moves that used leverage and technique). Most schools preach the mantra “position over submission”, meaning that you should never lose position trying for a submission unless it is sure to finish. There is an emphasis on technique and finesse, and the mental chess match of grappling.
Submission grappling is just an umbrella term to describe the grappling arts in a sport context.
By “ground arts” I’m assuming you mean grappling styles which incorporate ground work. In that case, the other big grappling styles are Judo [incorporates the gi, emphasizes throws and trips, and speedy/ explosive ground work- especially with armlocks] and Sambo [of which there are a few styles, but it’s similar to Judo in that it is done in a gi top and special shorts, and emphasizes leglocks as well as other basic submissions; Combat Sambo- the sport in which Fedor was a dominant force for years, closely resembles MMA and allows striking].
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 31, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would you say training specifically off your back (and the guard) is a defining characteristic of BJJ? I have seen Judo submissions from the back in MMA, so I guess Judo must have some, but what is the emphasis? Does Catch wrestling have much training from those positions?
Seemingly random questions, but fighting off your back is what immediately came to my mind when I thought of defining BJJ vs Catch wrestling, and I don’t know how valid that is.
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Catch has stuff off the bottom
Prioritising escapes, sweeps and pin prevention over submissions. Also more a focus of breakdowns and rides from the back and using turtle as effective defense-to-offense
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by KJ Gould on Aug 31, 2011 7:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I've always considered CSW and Judo Ne- Waza
to be more focused on top potition, but as KJ said- they don’t neglect the game from their back. I’d characterise CSW’s game from the back more similar to other wrestling styles, because you can still be pinned.
A lot of Judo style ground game from the back is defensive and preventative because you’re only on the ground for a short period.
Guard playing is definitely a big emphasis in BJJ, but it all depends on your style and skillset.
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 31, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Also,
it’s important to note that some styles of wrestling allow grappling on the mat, as well. Greco Roman wrestling only allows upper body attacks, standing and on the ground- which emphasizes throws and can be won by very specific pins. Folkstyle/ Collegiate wrestling emphasizes control on the mat, and forbids slams/ throws, and can be won by pin; Freestyle- an olympic style of wrestling, allows throws and slams, and emphasizes successful takedowns & takedown defenses, and can be won by pin as well.
These styles of wrestling don’t allow submissions, however. I believe that front headlock chokes aren’t specifically illegal if the opponent’s arm is inside.
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 31, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Catch as a sport
Allows both submissions and pins as a form of victory, and has always been a jacket-less (gi-less) competition.
BJJ as a sport allows finish by submission only, and is contested in a Gi.
Submission Grappling allows finish by submission only, and is jacket-less / nogi.
The competition rules often means approaches and strategies or ‘arts’ develop differently with more focus in some areas and less focus in others.
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by KJ Gould on Aug 31, 2011 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for succinctness
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by ElliotMatheny on Aug 31, 2011 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions
i've seen a lot of cheap plugs in my day.
at least this one has a wealth of knowledge. thanks bro.
by Victor Rodriguez on Aug 31, 2011 6:43 PM EDT reply actions
I've installed a mobilie friendly plugin
Which should work on android and iWhatever. If you could let me know if it works on your phone and if it’s quick or slow to load, that’d be grand.
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