UFC 134 Rio Judo Chop - Yushin Okami and Attacking Anderson Silva's Guard
Most casual fans (and even many among the hardcore contingent) you'll speak to about this Saturday's main event at UFC 134: Rio will have very little hesitation picking the champion to successfully defend his title. Anderson Silva has the most number of consecutive wins in the UFC and has gone undefeated thus far within the promotion. He's been the closest to a sure thing in the often times chaotic world of Mixed Martial Arts fighting.
The first fight between Anderson Silva and Yushin Okami is ancient history on the combat timeline. Both fighters are radically different today in comparison to back then having evolved in their own way to adapt to the ever changing challenges this sport can present. Okami's striking has improved significantly just during his tenure in the UFC but I think it'd be foolish to think he'd come out the better in a strictly stand up fight this weekend. When Chael Sonnen had success on the feet against Anderson Silva it was likely because of the very real threat of him shooting for and getting a takedown against Silva that kept the champ guessing. This will likely be the key for Okami in getting the fight to the ground; to use committed strikes to setup his wrestling shots.
What I'll be looking at in this Judo Chop is Okami's ability to survive inside a dangerous guard which Anderson Silva is also known for. When The Spider has been put on his back in previous fights he's put those legs to good use to eventually ensnare his opponents in a bout ending triangle-choke as we saw against Travis Lutter and Chael Sonnen.
Okami has fought BJJ blackbelts in the past, and while his fight with Nate Marquardt is the most recent I don't feel it's the most relevant as Marquardt's submission strengths lie more in his top game. Instead I'm going to be looking at the guard of Dean Lister which Okami was able to survive and even successfully attack within.
Join me after the jump for some detailed, animated gif analysis on attacking the guard.
Yushin Okami vs Dean Lister, UFC 92: The Ultimate 2008Block and Escape
One thing about this fight should be abundantly clear: Dean Lister is not a striker. You'll hear Joe Rogan during commentary lament that there's no professional Jiu Jitsu league that's monetarily comparably to MMA otherwise guys like Lister (in his opinion) would only do that instead. Lister's striking is rudimentary and his offensive wrestling to get the fight to the ground often appears half-hearted. Lister is very much of the old school that looks to pull guard as his main standing offensive. In this first sequence we see Lister attempt a takedown that Okami defends and whizzers with ease and Lister fights to secure a leg of Okami in a half-guard. Lister obviously feels he's in no submission danger and Okami doesn't try for something like a Brabo choke instead focusing on blocking Lister from getting any closer. Okami uses a short underhook that allows him to use his arm as a block and put weight into Lister's ribs making him uncomfortable enough to move, before cross-facing him to his back where Lister looks to lock up a guard. Okami's right arm is trapped on the ground and Lister looks to secure it perhaps with a leghook guard or the start of rubber guard, but with his other leg inside instead of outside Okami's leg he can't secure anything and Okami is able to posture up and back out to his feet safely.
Later in the round Lister tries a similar strategy after a failed shot but Okami uses a sprawl and partial front headlock to escape while making sure Lister can't follow him and grab a leg in the process. It's a pretty cool sequence to watch but not relevant to this judo chop - although knowing my luck Anderson Silva could well change the game up on everyone and attempt to out-wrestle Okami, which would certainly be remarkable to see.
Defending the Legs
At this point in the first round Lister has given up with takedowns and has jumped guard. He has an over-under grip on Okami and has opened his guard in order to work from it but Okami is able to posture up out of it to stand and to throw strikes. Lister shin-blocks Okami and looks to rotate to set up a leglock but Okami has an arm inside to stop Lister hugging closer and rolling for what would likely be a kneebar. Lister looks to grab at the ankles or toes, unlikely going for a submission but to bring Okami's leg inwards (sometimes referred to as Windshield Wiping) to get Okami off his knees and onto his butt so that Lister can get on top of him or to get Okami to pull his arms out to stabilise but give up his attacked leg in the process. Lister even tries to strike from the bottom and gets a leg inside in order to open Okami up but Okami patiently keeps his position and over-leg rides Lister while hand fighting him to make sure he doesn't have a grip he can roll with. Okami controls Lister with an inside leg pry and is able to land some shots from the Offensive (wrestling) position though is warned about the back of the head proximity by Referee Herb Dean as the round comes to a close.
Hug-O-Plata
Okami's confidence has grown by the middle of round 2 and he begins to willing engage inside of Lister's Guard. Lister grabs his leg like a leghook guard but this time has both arms to the side of Okami's head in a variation that's become known as the Shawn Williams Guard named after BJJ Blackbelt Shawn Williams who became known for using the variation. The variation allows for you to keep the opponent's posture down and push them off center-line giving you more control, but your hips aren't flattened or knees torqued in the process making it a viable and safer alternative to Mission Control and the beginning sequence of Rubber Guard transitions. Lister succeeds in controlling Okami to an extent and it's not until he brings his foot across Okami's head and face to either look for an Omoplata or Gogoplata that Okami is able to posture up and limp-arm out before driving his hips forward to smash Lister's open guard and start landing some Ground'n'Pound. Okami's ability to survive what can be considered an advanced level of guard work bodes well for him in his fight with Silva who has mostly used the traditional method of closed guard and double wrist control.
Posture and Pound
As mentioned, Okami no longer fears Lister's guard and almost dives in to land some blows. Once inside Okami is able to measure his strikes while Lister fights for wrist control that Okami is hand-fighting to prevent. Lister switches to half guard as well; his willingness to go form guard to half guard suggests a sweep is in mind, but as we've seen in previous Judo Chops wrestlers can maintain posture and use the opponent's half guard to their advantage by Turking the leg. Okami doesn't have a full Turk as he's not elevating his leg but he has a very strong posture. Okami also stops Lister standing up using a Front Headlock and keeping him collapsed on the mat. Considering Silva may want to get back to his feet as he has a definitive adantage there, Okami's ability to keep the fight grounded while staying out of danger will be important. He'll also need to stay busy enough to avoid the referee prematurely standing him up.
Hand Fight to Victory
Okami again shows little concern for Lister's guard. What's interesting here is that Okami maintains a great posture while never over committing to his strikes. He never throws a punch unless he has cleared Lister's grip through hand-fighting and when he does throw he brings his arms back in tight so he's not exposed. Hand finding is perhaps the most important part of working inside someone's guard whether to strike or to break and pass. The one who controls the grips is usually the one who controls how the fight will proceed. It may lack 'action' but I felt it was enough to maintain the fight on the ground and so referee Herb Dean's stand up feels more like a response to the crowd booing, something I wish referees would do better to ignore. I just hope the crowd in Rio who will likely be partisan towards Silva won't effect the referee and end up giving Okami a raw deal when it comes to officiating.
Even since this fight with Lister, Okami has shown improvements both standing and on the ground such as his fight with Lucio Linhares. In that fight Okami's striking is noticeably crisper using stiff jabs and short uppercuts to drop Linhares, and he shut down the repeated deep half guard attempts of Linhares when it did go to the ground. Linhares looked just as big as Okami during that fight and while he's no Anderson Silva, his striking was certainly better than Lister's and Okami handled it with ease. I believe this Saturday Okami is a very live underdog and in my opinion really does have the athleticism and skill-set to beat Silva with less of the short comings Chael Sonnen has shown that could cost him the victory. All eras come to an end, and we may see the greatest fighter in the history of the UFC fall to the Thunder form Japan.
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dude ! losing to silva doesnt mean you suck.
It means you fought Anderson while he was awake.
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 24, 2011 1:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 9 recs
Considering how most of Anderson’s fights have gone, I don’t think they would have ended any differently even if the other guy snuck up on him while he was sleeping.
by Damnatio Memoriae on Aug 24, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
more soccer kicks would be involved i imagine.
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 24, 2011 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Okami fights like an American fighter
That’s why he’s been successful. He knows how to cut weight, and he knows how to wrestle.
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by KJ Gould on Aug 24, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Hmmm . . . I think you’re right. Maybe, I don’t know.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 24, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If he loses his UFC record will be 10-3.
The very definition of uncompetitive.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Aug 24, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Stupid and unable to stay on topic. A lethal combination.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Aug 24, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Instant regret. Oh well.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Aug 24, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, what can I say. Needed to take a breather.
My apologies.
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by lowellthehammer on Aug 24, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent Chop!
Okami seems much bigger than Sonnen and Lutter which may give him a better chance of not being submitted.
Standing Okami is dead, but I imagine that this will be a closer fight than some people think…
I don’t know how much Okami weighs in the cage, but Sonnen was 207 for his fight with Anderson so I don’t see Okami out-weighing Anderson much if any more than Sonnen did…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Okami is a big guy at 185, but he’s not any bigger than Sonnen, or Lutter (who came to weigh ins at, what, 187? He was unable to make the limit, at any rate). I don’t even know if he’s bigger than Anderson, given that Andy walks around 220 from what I hear.
I don’t even know if he’s bigger than Anderson, given that Andy walks around 220 from what I hear.
Anderson supposedly gets up to 220ish between fights, but then loses weight (in the conventional diet+exercise way) down to either 205 or 185 of the course of his camp…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva’s finish of Travis Lutter wasn’t a triangle choke, it was a submission due to elbow strikes to the head that were thrown 12 to 6, except Silva was horizontal
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
Lutter has said he tapped to the triangle, not the strikes
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But what does he know?
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by lowellthehammer on Aug 24, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
if i tapped to strikes i would probably lie to myself and the fans too.
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 24, 2011 2:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Given the choice,
are you going to say you tapped to a triangle or to strikes?
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
tapping to strikes would crush my psyche .
I would tell myself it was the triangle even if it wasn’t.
Lutter didn’t even try to stack out of the triangle. Lutter’s head wasn’t even being forced into the triangle by Anderson’s calf on the back of his neck or by Anderson pulling his head down. his arm was on the wrong side of Anderson’s body for the choke. Lutter was gassed and just wanted the bad man to stop hitting him imho.
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 25, 2011 9:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree entirely
I am not a professional fighter, and I don’t know how exactly to explain it, but I think I would feel ruined as a fighter for having done so, unless there was a serious injury of some sort involved.
Considering the ridicule that even elite fighters who have tapped to strikes have gotten, there is no way anyone would admit to that if there were any possible alternative explanation…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 25, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Silva for sure won't submit Okami from guard
But holding Silva in his guard for 5 rounds is more than Yushin can hope for
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I tend to agree
In a 3-rounder, maybe, but in a 5-rounder, at some point, Anderson finds a way…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Assuming Okami doesn't get destroyed,
he’ll probably get Silva down several times. He wont be able to play Sonnens game but he should be able to get the takedown atleast a few times and it’s very important he makes the most of these opportunities. I believe he could wear down Silva and maybe take rounds 4 and 5.
But this is Silva we’re talking about and he can end the fight at any time.
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Wow
I guess Okami has got this in the bag then!!!! LOL :)
If heavyweight isn't the toughest division in the UFC, then why doesn't someone that can kick their asses move to it? They don’t even have to cut weight!!
It has chop in the name, yeah...

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by SentientAndroid on Aug 24, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember, Okami beat Silva inside his guard the first time!

He just needs to stick with what works.
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by iiowyn on Aug 24, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
that kick really really shouldn't be illegal
it’s in no way unfair or unsporting and is clearly a thing of beauty. I really think any kick thrown by the man on the bottom should be legal.
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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 24, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
truer words have never been spoken.
Plus the rules were very ambiguous for that fight.
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 24, 2011 2:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here is the part I have always wanted to know.
Never, and I mean ever have I seen a fight take place without a rules meeting of some sort. Sometimes they have it for all the fighters all at once or other times in locker rooms. The referees or the commission do it.
I couldnt imagine Rumble on the Rock didnt have something similar. Because yeah that kick should not be illegal. The difficulty of it and the fact he KO’s Okami make it damn impressive.
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I agree with this 110%
That should have been Knockout of the Year.
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Would you like Freys with that?
I could see fights like Pettis vs Guida and other fights being much different had kicks like that been legal. I see no real safety issue here, and seeing that the fighter on top is seen as in dominant position and usually wins the round if he’s on top, I think that any other tools that can be given to the fighter on the bottom should be welcome.
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Doesn’t he get finished for his effort tho?
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if okami takes anderson down he is not going to get submitted by anderson silva. silva only has 2 sub’s from the guard in his whole career.
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I did not realize that. Seems like it should be higher
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by sitnam90 on Aug 24, 2011 6:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He has 6 total subs, 2 to strikes, 2 RNCs, 2 triangles (counting Lutter as tapping to the triangle instead of the elbows). He has an excellent guard (especially his use of the spider and butterfly guards to create space to get back to his feet), but it is primarily oriented to avoiding damage long enough to get back to his feet.
Yeah
i think since his triangles were so shocking at the time, it makes it seem like he has done them quite a bit more. And subs to strikes never count as subs to me, just voluntary tko’s. :)
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Best fight odds is your friend. Bodog, does currently have the best odds on Okami, however.
I’ve got to say, as an Anderson fan, I’m way, way more worried about this fight than I was about Belfort. Okami’s pretty clearly not a good matchup for him.
I'm an Okami fan (and an Anderson fan)
and I don’t think you have anything to worry about. Okami is just way too conservative. He’s going to sit back and wait, Silva will sit back until he gets bored or the crowd starts booing, and then he’ll do some pinpoint striking and knock Okami out.
If Okami had more Sonnen-like aggression, then I’d give him more of a chance. Hopefully he surprises me, but I just don’t see it.
by Pantherhare on Aug 24, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Belfort never really had a chance
If he had taken a fight or two in the UFC’s MW division first, I would have given him a better chance.
Honestly
I have a feeling this fight won’t be nearly as competitive as some people are thinking. Any time it’s brought up people cite the Sonnen fight. But Okami isn’t Sonnen. His wrestling isn’t as strong and he’s not nearly as reckless as Chael was in that fight.
Personally, I see Okami being hesitant in the stand up and shooting doubles from the outside, only to be picked apart by Silva – in ways only the Spider can. I’ll even throw a sig bet on it if anyone’s willing.
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I keep having this feeling in my gut
The same type of feeling before Werdum vs Fedor.
It seems like when the ‘Oh this won’t be a hard fight’ talk is at an all time high and the ‘but he has a chance’ talk is at a low, that the upset always happpens.
Upsets aren’t exactly shocking unless nobody really expected them, I suppose.
But I just feel like, Anderson is only getting older. He seems to have found the fountain of youth…but still. Nobody can win forever, right?
I just get the feeling that the ‘dark horse of the division’ is going to pull it off.
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yeah
the judo chops of greatness and badassness which is what we know today as anderson silva
the predictions are gonna be lopsided.
doesnt hurt to factor in how timid okami can get.
an upset would really be upsetting, and whenever the BE staff all predict a similar outcome for a fight i get nervous
Well we already know who KJ is picking so you should be safe
and whenever the BE staff all predict a similar outcome for a fight
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