Report: UFC Targeting Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson for Fox Debut
by Mike Fagan on Aug 24, 2011 2:06 AM EDT
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Following the UFC on Fox press conference last week, Matt Bishop asked me about potential matchups the UFC could put together for the debut show on November 12. I came up with Lyoto Machida and Brock Lesnar -- before UFC President Dana White announced the latter would be out until 2012 -- as the obvious big names they would have available for a main event on that date.
There was one other guy I mentioned, though. Should he get by Yushin Okami on Saturday, the UFC could conceivably turn Anderson Silva around quickly and put him on national television. With Chael Sonnen booked against Brian Stann, however, the UFC would have to find an opponent at light heavyweight, a la the Affliction counter-programming with James Irvin back in 2008.
Tatame reports that there's someone else the UFC has in mind for Silva in November:
According to sources close to the situation, the middleweight champion is in talks with the UFC to fight Dan Henderson at UFC's first show on FOX, scheduled to November 12, in California.
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Sources also indicated that if Henderson didn't agree to move down to middleweight months after a heavyweight showdown against Fedor Emelianenko, Chael Sonnen is the option to replace him against Silva.
I figured Henderson, who's made every indication that he wants to fight at 205 pounds, would one of the guys opposite Machida if they went that route. However, a title fight and rematch with Silva might be the sort of incentive he would need to make another cut to middleweight.
The bit about Sonnen doesn't jive, however. The Honda Center will host the November 12 show. The Honda Center is in Anaheim. Anaheim is in California. Chael Sonnen and California have a history together.
That said, the report fits with what White told the L.A. Times:
White said before he sets the main event for Nov. 12 he needs to watch what transpires Saturday when his long-reigning middleweight champion Anderson Silva defends his belt against Yushin Okami and former light-heavyweight champion Griffin has a rematch with another former champion in the division, Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, whom Griffin defeated at Honda Center.
Does that mean Silva could fight in Anaheim?
"I'm not saying that," White said. "Let me get through these fights."
Silva and Henderson previously met at UFC 82 in Columbus, Ohio. Silva submitted Henderson by rear naked choke at 4:50 of round 2.
[Update 8:55 p.m. ET] This story may have originated as a post from Bloody Elbow member mmalogic at the Underground.
[Update 9:40 p.m. ET] Chael Sonnen comments to MMA Nation:
"Wow. I'd be surprised. Tickets went on sale (last week for his UFC 136 fight with Brian Stann). I don't think they would - I'd be surprised. But, of course, I'd go along with it."
[Update by Brent Brookhouse 12:45 a.m. ET] While it's cleary no indication of anything specific a recent twitter exchange between Jay Glazer and Dan Henderson provides an interesting little gem:
Still can't believe my 2 sports that I love are both on FOX now. So stoked for Week 1 of NFL and 1st UFC on FOX in Nov!!! #dreamcometrueless than a minute ago via UberSocial 
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For whatever it’s worth, Tatame’s source seems to be mmalogic.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&forum=1&thread=1863401&page=1
Dan Henderson was quoted as saying:
LETS MUTHERFUKERS!!!
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by Earl Montclair on Aug 23, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
overeem v rogers
mmalogic was drunk and dropped 18k on rogers
lets mutherfukers was his war cry as rogers went into battle
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by Well Read Idiot on Aug 24, 2011 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/5/15/1473399/strikeforce-heavy-artillery-live
managed to get 18k down on rogers (was gonna do 15k but an offshore book fucked up). Lets mutherfukers
by mmalogic on May 15, 2010 8:47 PM PDT actions 6 recs
The only substitute for victory is overkill.
by Underhand Left on Aug 24, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
:O
Dude lost 18k!!! That’s a car! Or, or…a LOT anything! Holy shit.
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by SentientAndroid on Aug 24, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess that makes him a whale in the MMA betting realms…although personally I’d just like to know where he found a book that would let him put anywhere near that much on an MMA fight, especially a Strikeforce one.
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
well you see Ronin....
Mmalogicis a lying troll. Glad I could help.
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 24, 2011 11:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
He occasionally has a bit of new information, but even a blind squirrel…
Can’t decide what the split between legit info, lying, trolling and pulling stuff out of his ass is though…maybe 10/30/30/30?
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
i am not good enough at math to design an
equation to solve that riddle.
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 24, 2011 12:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Then let's just call it
10% legit info and 90% a combination of lying, trolling and pulling stuff from his ass…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Zuffa wants Chael/Anderson on ppv because that’s gonna be a seller. And Zuffa wants Anderson on Fox because it will get ratings and potentially catapult him into a GSP level draw in the states thus making the Anderson Chael fight that much bigger.
It’s called strategery.
Reads like something logic would write, doesn’t it? But it makes me question his… logic? I can understand Silva for purely excitement reasons but to spend the energy building up a 36 1/2 old fighter as a draw? Wouldn’t it a smarter “strategy” to put that effort behind Jones, Aldo, or Cain and JDS? Fighters that have a lot of potential years on ppv left in them? And the backup plan is a fighter who probably can’t even get licensed in CA?
Still, I would be ecstatic if it ends up being Hendo vs Silva. I would be even more ecstatic if it was at LHW.
However if Anderson becomes a massive name
That will help them immensely in Brazil, which could help them become the third biggest sport in the Brazil after Soccer and Volleyball.
Also, if you beat a legendary champion your name grows exponentially
No one would remember who Evander Holyfield is without Mike Tyson after all
Sorry, but you’re just flat wrong about the Holyfield thing. He was a very accomplished boxer pre-Tyson, and plenty of people would’ve remembered him.
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by KingBrody on Aug 23, 2011 10:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Also, if you beat a legendary champion your name grows exponentially
huhh? Silva already defeated the legendary Dangerous Dan Henderson. But I guess if he beats Henderson again after Hendo stopped Fedor then . . . Silva steals all that thunder.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 24, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
He lost me at Strategery.
Man, I hate that goddamn game.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Aug 23, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If Anderson and Shogun both win, I’d rather see them fight, even at a CW, than any other potential fight for Anderson.
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by The American Ronin on Aug 23, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if they are hoping Rua wins
so that they can make a Henderson vs. Rua main event for Fox…
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I would prefer Anderson/Rua, but Henderson/Rua is acceptable as well, and probably more likely to be made.
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Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Silva vs Rua
Is still my superfight because:
- they have a shared history in Chute Boxe
- muay thai vs muay thai
- Shogun has repeatedly said in public that he would love the opportunity to fight Silva. (and also Couture, Liddell & Fedor)
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 24, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep, I’ve been saying for a while that Rua vs Silva is the fight I’m interested in. That said, the Rua that showed up against Jones would have no chance against Silva… only a Rua in 100% shape would stand a chance, and I’m afraid that Rua doesn’t exist anymore.
Against Jones, Rua got absolutely rocked from the very beginning, but he has never fared particularly well against MMA wrestlers and any version of Shogun would have met the same fate. Of course, that is not an issue when fighting Anderson…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I would LOVE to see that.
But would be concerned that a well-placed H-Bomb would destroy Shogun’s career.
Silva v. Sonnen II
That is all
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by Earl Montclair on Aug 23, 2011 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
agreed.
If there was ever a fight tailor made for a Fox debut, it’d be this.
a 23 minute...
wrestlehumping? People would be changing the channel.
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
"I’m ready. It doesn’t matter with who or where. On foot or on horseback. With maces or poleaxes. To fight. To first blood or to death. It doesn’t matter, I’m ready to fight. I went hunting. For bears. With a knife. " - Aleksander Emelianenko
by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 23, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
So true
Anyone besides Silva on the receiving end of that fight and the excitement goes way down.
:p - orcus
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any other ending...
and the excitement goes way down.
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
"I’m ready. It doesn’t matter with who or where. On foot or on horseback. With maces or poleaxes. To fight. To first blood or to death. It doesn’t matter, I’m ready to fight. I went hunting. For bears. With a knife. " - Aleksander Emelianenko
by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 23, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
There I disagree
Sonnen getting that win even from all his guard work would have still been huge
:p - orcus
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by Chris Hall on Aug 23, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
huge accomplishment?
totally agree. All-time, legendary fight? Nah. It would be a very important fight in the annals because of Andy’s resume, but it wouldn’t have been anyone’s favorite fight (except for racists and otter rapists). Maybe the novelty of the new champ pissing hot would have bumped it’s status, but it terms of pure excitement? Meh.
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
"I’m ready. It doesn’t matter with who or where. On foot or on horseback. With maces or poleaxes. To fight. To first blood or to death. It doesn’t matter, I’m ready to fight. I went hunting. For bears. With a knife. " - Aleksander Emelianenko
by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 23, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
It would prolly be remembered, but in a much more “You had to be there” sort of way
:p - orcus
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Yeah....
Because all Sonnen did was LNP that first fight… SMH! Idiot.
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by James Anthony on Aug 24, 2011 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions
NO.
Hendo has been on a tear at 205 and above. When he fought Shields at MW, he was seen as “old and slow”. Now he’s got a few good KOs at LHW, and they want him to cut that weight again?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Aug 23, 2011 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts exactly.
This is a horrible horrible horrible idea
I agree
This fight is not cool. I mean, come on. If Dan wants a title fight let him unify against the Bones/Rampage winner. PLUS, Rashad Evans’ title shot gets hilariously delayed. Again!
Win. Win. Win.
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by Earl Montclair on Aug 23, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought Hendo’s vs Rashad would make for a nicer first main event on Fox
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by mburtoni on Aug 23, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not bad.
But I’d rather it be Hendo/Lyoto.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 23, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rashad has an injured hand
He said at post fight that it wasn’t serious, but he still had it wrapped up at the fox unveiling
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by savik on Aug 23, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Lets go with Hendo/Machida and Anderson/Shogun, assuming they win without injury…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 23, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Win.
:p - orcus
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Guillard/Bendo would be awesome too,
as would BJ/Condit if they are willing to scratch other fights to make them…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 23, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I love both those fights
And I think Condit/Penn makes a lot of sense. It’s still pulling a big fight, but not a main event, and I think both guys are chill enough to be willing to move up the date.
:p - orcus
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All of these fights are sick
But aren’t there only 2 fights on FOX?
Let the fighters fight, let the referees ref, but dear God, don't let the judges judge.
I like Anderson/Shogun.
I doubt they would fight each other with their Chute Boxe history though.
Rua has stated very explicitly that he would fight Anderson, but I don’t know if that goes both ways. Also, given Anderson’s brotherly relationship with Machida, much would probably depend on how he viewed it (either as making Machida look bad by wrecking the guy who beat him, getting some measure of revenge on Lyoto’s behalf or somewhere in between).
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Silva has usually been brushing off any talk about a fight with Shogun. At one point after all the GSP talk and LHW talk, Silva just said if some one wants to fight me, come down to my division.
I wouldn’t say that Silva is scared but I don’t think he has any inclinations towards fighting Shogun. And he definitely doesn’t want to fight a younger and bigger version of himself in Jon Jones.
End note, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT WHEN SHOGUN goes out of his way to state that he wants to fight Silva. I know Shogun doesn’t care to fight fellow countrymen but as we saw with Machida, he will fight. Silva is another story when it comes to fighting countrymen, weird (Maia, Leites, Belfort) things have happened. I do believe Joe Silva and Dana White are smart men, but if matching up Silva against another Brazilian definitely doens’t make sense. We know Anderson would destroy this version of Wanderlei but fortunately for both fighters, Wanderlei’s career is on a steady decline.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 24, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Saying that Jones is younger and bigger version of Silva is a abomination.
They are completely different fighters.
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by dancingChicken on Aug 24, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
that's where I stopped
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
"I’m ready. It doesn’t matter with who or where. On foot or on horseback. With maces or poleaxes. To fight. To first blood or to death. It doesn’t matter, I’m ready to fight. I went hunting. For bears. With a knife. " - Aleksander Emelianenko
by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 24, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn’t agree more. He looked awful against shields and I blame the weight cut. He is too old to continue cutting that weight. I want to see what he can do at light heavy
by troyd on Aug 23, 2011 8:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Luckily for Dan, he doesn’t need to cut weight. He’s built like a fucking tank, so it would be really hard for someone to muscle him around.
by discoandherpes on Aug 23, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly!!!
Please do not do this! Hendo has looked great at 205 keep him there. Having him cut back down to MW is just a bad idea. He looks very slow and tired halfway threw the 1st round at MW now. A lot of people think he looked good in the 1st round against Anderson I didn’t think he did. He’s just not the same fighter at 85 the cut is to much for a guy his age and being as thick as he is just doesn’t help. Also he’s the SF LHW Champ why bring him back to fight in a different weight class than the one he is on a tear in? Anyone who can’t see the difference between 185 Dan and 205 Dan is blind and stupid!
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Silva vs Henderson at 205? I’d love to see that.
Fuck Sonnen!
by devious1 on Aug 23, 2011 8:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hey, fuck you budday!!!
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by Earl Montclair on Aug 23, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Unless your an actual Canuck
then you wouldn’t appreciate Terrance & Phillip
by devious1 on Aug 23, 2011 8:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Or maybe i should have responded....
Fuck you guy!!!
by devious1 on Aug 23, 2011 8:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hold on
are you seriously telling me that Terrance and Phillip are real??
Say it ain't Cho
by Sean in Vancouver on Aug 24, 2011 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
To me that’s both realistic and a great matchup!
by Colin Paul Kowlessar on Aug 23, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that quote?
From inside Dana White’s head?
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by McKinley B. Noble on Aug 23, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It was a quote
From my face
You know what they say
by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Aug 23, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You type with your face?
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by NEW-HAMPSHIRE on Aug 23, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Stann
Assuming they need to get their backup.
Let the fighters fight, let the referees ref, but dear God, don't let the judges judge.
But they could arguably give Stann the shot anyway
I mean, all he has to do to beat Sonnen is to learn a triangle choke.
Let the fighters fight, let the referees ref, but dear God, don't let the judges judge.
Exactly what I had said earlier
about MMAmania breaking the news first, but Bloody Elbow providing an excellent breakdown of the possibilities. I was afraid no front pager was going to recognize that Sonnen in California was a no-no.
by Colin Paul Kowlessar on Aug 23, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions
Silva/Hendo at 205 scares the shit out of me.
But Silva/Hendo at 185 makes no sense. Silva/Sonnen 2 would be great but…well…CSAC. Buh.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Aug 23, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
If by scares the shit out of
Makes you want to die of happiness then we are in agreement
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I don’t want it any which way. I love Dan, but he’s done nothing to deserve a fight with Anderson, IMO.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 23, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
except that time he won a number 1 contenders match for the UFC 185 pound belt and everyone on the internet called dana an asshole for not giving him the title shot and letting him walk to strikeforce.
by Phildo on Aug 23, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah that time two years ago. Big deal. I don’t want one of Anderson’s last fights wasted on a rematch with a guy he flat out destroyed, who is now 41, and looks terrible when he has to cut the weight.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 23, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I remember Hendo winning the first round. Not sure if that counts as flat out destroyed or not.
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by exsanguinator on Aug 24, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
It does.
Pretty much anytime a fighter does no serious damage to his opponent, gets taken apart, dropped and choked out in the second round, I’m not really giving them gold stars and brownie points for making a fight of it for a round. It’s only point fighting up until the point you’re rocked and going unconscious.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 24, 2011 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Dan held his own and won the round, largely on the basis of taking Andy down (the rest was about even), but Hendo gassed and then was rocked in round 2, then seemingly intentionally gave up his back to avoid being TKO’s instead of tapped out…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
It was more like “lets throw few of my famous bombs and see what happens”. The bombs got countered and that’s it.
"... All reined up in old language and old assumptions, straining to jump clean-hoofed on to a whole new track of being I only suspect is there. I can't see it, because my educated, average head is being held at the wrong angle..."
by dancingChicken on Aug 24, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Make it happen again, bitches!
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Aug 23, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this
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by Earl Montclair on Aug 23, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like that fight
make it happen, bitches!
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yeah
“Hollywood” (my prefered Dan Henderson nickname) needs to stay @ 205.
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by Earl Montclair on Aug 23, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I always say "Hollywood" when I'm talking about Hendo
it’s cool as fuck in a 90s way
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 23, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It's what Hipsters call Dan Henderson
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than to have a frontal lobotomy
I wouldn’t worry about it. I think the chances of Silva vs Hendo actually happening are about the same as Silva vs Minowaman for the Fox debut.
by memitim on Aug 23, 2011 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Silva vs Minowaman obviously won't happen
Because no one would ever want to watch anything after that. It’d be enough to satisfy everyone forever, even those not yet born.
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 23, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
wouldn't it be ironic if Henderson returned to the UFC to challange for the middleweight title
than do a unification bout at LHW?
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Letting Anderson Silva tool up on a past his prime name with a good chin… yeah, I’d put that on Fox too.
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They should let Anderson fight a past his prime name with an awful chin
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by Earl Montclair on Aug 23, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Not sure what's weirder
the fact that they’re slow zooming on his face for no reason or the fact that Chuck doesn’t blink at all.
the blinking thing
:p - orcus
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Chuck probably hasn't blinked in 3 days with the shit he be on
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 23, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe Mr. Pace
was referring to The Iceman’s rumored affinity for a certain recreational white powder.
:p - orcus
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correct
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 23, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
the powder on the outside of jelly donuts?
I like that stuff too, it’s GREAT.
I'm more shocked that Chuck is actually sitting still
And not doing his crazy herky jerk shoulder shuffle thing that he likes so much.
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by Chris Groves on Aug 23, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's why he's not blinking
he’s too focused on trying to stay still.
He can only do one or the other
I suppose.
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by Chris Groves on Aug 23, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's kind of sad
that this might actually be true.
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by DarthKitty on Aug 23, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
CULL MI NOW!
I’m sorry, but people who believe in psychics are…odd.
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on Aug 24, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
not very nice to post that picture when people in the comments might have som serious munchies to deal with..
by the guy with the big nose on Aug 24, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
And then retired it
For a grand old clinch gear style “f u”
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Wrapping up a career with wins over Fedor and the Spider would reshuffle Hendo’s place in the history of the sport.
by memitim on Aug 23, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s for damn sure. Especially if he laid Sonnen out afterwards. Doubtful, but yeah, that would change things.
by Schwizzles on Aug 24, 2011 1:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sonnen?
Why Sonnen?
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by SentientAndroid on Aug 24, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Just because somebody needs to,
and it might as well be one old greco guy taking out another old greco guy…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Cause people want to see his block knocked off
and if he beats Stann, or better yet, finishes him (I know, I know) then he would be a good choice for the next title contender.
Hahaha!
I helped break this story! Even though you probably knew before I did, I just don’t have to deal with that pesky writing an article nonsense
Did anyone ask Yushin Okami about this?
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If Yushin wins it would still be a big fight
I love Okami, but if he is the champ he wouldn’t be a great ratings draw
Even against Chael, as he and Chael are best buddies now
Silva himself isn’t a ratings draw.
But if I were Okami, and even thought I already knew most people were counting me out, I would take it as a tremendous ‘fuck you’ if I knew that the powers that be were already trying to set up my opponent’s next fight. Extra motivation.
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by Austin Martin on Aug 23, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Not saying that he shouldn't be pissed
But I think Fox could easily turn Anderson Silva into a star. They have a huge marketing campaign who I am sure will be absolutely drooling over the highlight reels that he has
And also while Anderson Silva is not a huge draw, he still would be bigger then Okami
He's not HUGE
But look at his last 3 headliners. 500K for 112, 600K for 117, 725K for 126.
I think he hit some rough fights, but between the uber hype Chael brought, the amazing come from behind win, and the Seagal kick on Vitor…I think he’s finally becoming a pretty big deal.
I mean, GSP at 124 only did like 785 buys or something…but somehow he is a huge draw, and Anderson isn’t at all?
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by Chris Groves on Aug 23, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm, I think the deal is that GSP has a built-in fan base.
At least, one that watches his fights, regardless of location. I’m not sure any of Anderson’s PPVs have been boosted by his fans. He not a fighter that rallies any single “group” of people together outside of hardcore fight fans — a minority circle.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Aug 23, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The difference is that 126 was stacked.
124 had almost no nAmes. For god’s sake, McCorkle and Struve were the co-main event. GSP carried that PPV singlehandedly
by mthom on Aug 24, 2011 3:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
OKomi and dan both deserve a rematch
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Don’t be scared cared Omi !?
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by spectaa on Aug 23, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look Dana, if Dan was pressing for more money,
there is no need to play hardball by threatening him with Anderson Silva….after a weight cut. Let him wait for the winner of the Jones-Jackson-Evans triangle match or have him face Machida for a possible number one contenders match.
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by battlestar on Aug 23, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
They can make it 205
Since Okami will be the new Middleweight Champion.
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Get out Chael.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Aug 23, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice job KJ
Actually having some balls instead of going for the safe pick!
I think Anderson getting DQ'd twice against the same guy
Is pretty unlikely, but bravo for the brave pick
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by Stiff Jab on Aug 23, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
title doesn't change via DQ
at least that’s what pro wrestling taught me.
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 23, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
From the UFC Facebook feed...
Yushin Okami isn’t just Anderson Silva’s opponent Saturday night – he’s the only man to beat the champ since 2006.
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by The American Ronin on Aug 23, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Winner, Anders- wait what? The other guy won?
The North remembers...
Would you like Freys with that?
Right!
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by The American Ronin on Aug 24, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I laughed at you. But, he does have better submission defense, even though his wrestling isn’t on Chael’s level.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 23, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Chael claims Okami has been outwrestling him ever since they began training together pretty much right after their fight. Again, that’s Chael though…
I can’t buy that. However, I don’t think Yushin has “no shot” or anything. If he can avoid getting destroyed on his feet, he should be able to work the takedowns on Anderson to some degree, and he’ll be harder to sub. I just can’t pick a guy who I don’t believe can stop Anderson. Over five rounds, Andy will get to him. This fight is getting a bit passed over IMO. I’m looking forward to it a lot. Yushin’s boxing has improved, and Anderson will have trouble catching him in something if Yushin is able to put him on his back for a substantial portion of the fight.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Aug 23, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I would give him a chance at a UD over 3 rounds (Sonnen too), but 5 rounds gives Anderson too long to find a way to win against those guys…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 23, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
while I hope so
I think Silva is gonna win this one pretty handily
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Hah, that's funny.
Oh wait, you’re actually serious?!
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by McKinley B. Noble on Aug 23, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I can understand them wanting to show off AS. Hendo can make 195 easy so just do a catch weight. No need to put a title on the line here. Still like Sonnen/ Stann and Story/ Kampman on that card since they all speak E and will throw down hard.
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by Hardy's in your face on Aug 23, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions
I could honestly get behind that at 205.
Let’s be honest, even if Silva loses to Okami (rolls eyes), a fight with Hendo at 205 would be very smart. Hendo was the first guy to really give Anderson any problems, although the second round he looked spent and got finished.
Honestly, if Silva moves up and meets Hendo, where’s the issues? Silva’s a draw, Hendo’s got a hell of a chin, he’s coming off his biggest win ever, and it’s brilliant matchmaking.
Silva wins, it sets him up for Chael II (assuming he beat Okami and Chael beats Stann). Coming off a win of a former teammate at a higher weight class, you’ve got big money.
Hendo wins, he’s the Strikeforce LHW Champ, he just beat either your current or former MW Champ, that sets him up for a LHW Title fight, or at least number one contenders fight with Rashad. Doubt that will happen as Rashad is hands down number 1, but weirder has happened. How many times has Okami been passed over for a MW Title fight now?
This was one of the first fights I thought of.
Some MMA Math to back up Dana’s thinking:
Dana White says Anderson Silva is the greatest of all time
Many other people say Fedor is the greatest of all time
Dan Henderson just beat Fedor
Anderson Silva beats Dan Henderson again = greatest of all time
If this doesn’t work out, then they can pull Sonnen, and put Belfort in against Stann.
You’d want to do that to Belfort? He just got a good looking win over a b level fighter, throwing him in against Stann would be setting him up for failure for sure. That’s just how Belfort works. Or is he really ‘back’ this time?
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by exsanguinator on Aug 24, 2011 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that Belfort would blow Stann out of water.
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by dancingChicken on Aug 24, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that Stann would beat him easily since Belfort is the most inconsistent fighter on the planet.
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by exsanguinator on Aug 24, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I may be in the minority...
but there’s nothing I like about this.
They should be using Dan at 205 for a unification bout they could market the hell out of despite the dubious value of the Strikeforce 205 lb title. If he loses to Anderson at 205, they’ve further devalued the title, and against a guy that fights at 185.
And if Anderson beats Okami at 185 and loses to Dan at 205, they’ve just squandered the aura of invincibility that makes him so marketable. And if he loses to both, all the sudden one of their hot properties is on a 2 fight skid.
by Damnatio Memoriae on Aug 23, 2011 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
Realities of the fight game. The LHW title is tied up two fights deep. They need to pull serious ratings on Fox, and unfortunately their biggest draws are all tied up with other fights, or are Anderson Silva.
Also, this is still just a pipe dream. This weekend will help sort it out a ton I’m sure.
Your assuming they want to put their big PPV draws on Fox.
by discoandherpes on Aug 23, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m assuming Fox wants them to put their big PPV draws on Fox. Delivering a shitty opening rating doesn’t really help anybody out here. Now I’m sure people will watch it just because it’s UFC on Fox. How many more people will watch it because there’s an actual star on it? And the Fox exposure helps their PPV draws as well.
Of course Fox wants the big draws on network television, but you’re assuming that guys like GSP and Silva will want to fight on Fox. We know they get a cut of every PPV buy, which probably really helps the check they get. As long as PPV is UFC’s primary model, that’s were we’ll probably see the majority of the big fights.
For all we know we might get guys like Jose Aldo, Frankie Edgar and Dominick Cruz on Fox.
by discoandherpes on Aug 24, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
yea but fuck that anderson silva fighting for free is awesome
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by ScoreCardOTN on Aug 23, 2011 10:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Of course if Anderson loses or is banged up
It won’t happen.
If I were the UFC, I’d be slow in thinking about Anderson’s future fights.
I remember as he walked out for the Maia fight, Rogan was talking about how ‘If Anderson beats Demian Maia tonight, he will cut to 170 and fight GSP’ Or something like that.
One humiliation of Maia later, and that plan is out.
I can see the reasoning of giving Henderson a shot at the MW title. Hendo became a LHW champion earlier this year, then went up to heavyweight and not only beat a guy who is one of the best heavies of all time, but he became the first to ever knock him out cold. If he follows that up with a drop to MW and WINS…holy hell, that would be absolute legend status.
When he entered SF, Coker was hyping Dan up saying ‘he came in and said he wants to fight for our 185 title, our 205 title, and our heavyweight title’
Could you imagine if he does that now, but in the UFC?
Picture it, it’s an insanely long shot, but Dan Henderson, the current UFC MW and LHW champion challenging Velasquez for the heavyweight title? That would be unbelievable.
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My mind was blown for a second
And then I remembered that Jon Jones and Anderson are ungodly killing machines
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Yeah, I try not to think more about what Henderson would actually have to do...
But more of the idea of him doing it.
Henderson as a dual weightclass champ again? Hell yes!
Beating Anderson AND Jones to do it? dangit…
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by Chris Groves on Aug 23, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd be so happy if this was true
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"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
mmalogic also insists it will be Strikeforce, not Bellator, that moves to Spike. Nothing to see here.
well he hasnt been proven wrong on either yet
to discredit mma logic all you need to do is cite lets mutherfukers
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and that time he said Fedor to UFC was a done deal
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 23, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And the time he said EA sports MMA was going to drop Strikeforce for the WEC.
by Strikeboxer on Aug 23, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The cake is a lie
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I think the odds of them using Anderson are high. Dan as the opponent? I don’t think so.
If I could do a fantasy booked fight, it would be Anderson vs. Rashad at 205.
anderson vs brock lesnar
cause why the fuck not
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by Chris Hall on Aug 23, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
The only thing we could tell for certain is that Mighty Mouse would control the range
by savik on Aug 23, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Does Struve have a prostate issue, or did someone throw a water balloon at his rod?
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by James Anthony on Aug 24, 2011 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't like brock
but Silva would hit him with a laser-accurate strike and he’d collapse like a Waffle House in DC after the earthquake.
oh wait, i just talked myself into wanting that fight.
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 23, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Did this actually happen
collapse like a Waffle House in DC after the earthquake.
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probably?
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 23, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
Totally plausible rumor, unlike that bullshit that Chael Sonnen killed 5 hookers in the mid 90’s. I mean fucking seriously? Does anyone really believe this absolutely ludicrous story that Chael Sonnen killed 5 hookers in the mid 90’s???
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by Chris Hall on Aug 23, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
He probably only had time to lay pray and grind 2 of them so 5 appears to be an exaggeration.
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 23, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
...
"... All reined up in old language and old assumptions, straining to jump clean-hoofed on to a whole new track of being I only suspect is there. I can't see it, because my educated, average head is being held at the wrong angle..."
by dancingChicken on Aug 24, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I still would rather see Dan Vs. Machida and Siva v. Sonnenn 2
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Love the sig.
On another note, BURGER KING.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 24, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
More interesting than exciting
Interesting thought, but would it really be different from last time?? No. The only thing that excites me would be the chance of Hendo losing and Stann losing THEN Hendo vs Stann. Now that’s the fight I want to see! Doesn’t want to bight the bullet on a pay cut to go back to the UFC much less to get paid less to cut back down to 185.
by Luffmania on Aug 23, 2011 9:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The only way I like this fight is if its at 205
maybe Franklinweight.
Overall I don’t think it makes sense divisionally, however it would be an exciting fight, between two very big name fighters which is what could make the first FOX event a success.
Did anyone else think, “aww, its bullshit” when they found out mmalogic was the source of the info?
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Well there goes a competitive fight on Saturday.
Instead of Silva toying with Okami for 5 rounds, he’s gonna finish him lightning Belfort style to make sure he doesn’t get any injuries that could mess up his debut on Fox.
Just Breed!
by ScoreCardOTN on Aug 23, 2011 10:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ok am I missing something here or did BE and pass off the equivilant as a fucking fanpost on another website as front page news?
Some fan spits out mma fan fiction and its automatically picked up by a bunch of mma news sites as legit? At least BE offered some context to the rumor as opposed to the other sites but this is rediculous. My 2 choices for mma coverage are either companies eating out of dana’s hand or a a bunch of fanboys posting mma smut to get each other off with. If this sport ever wants to truely go mainstream it needs some respected journalists besides of Hawani.
by thej6m on Aug 23, 2011 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Logic has been known to be right about things
and know about things before anyone else does. He seems to be connected in some way to the UFC. However, he’s been wrong about other things too. So there’s that.
Helwani as your journalistic ideal, huh?
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by Richard Wade on Aug 24, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Plays company shill for Zuffa in exchange for exclusive info.
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by Paulo Filho's Psychiatrist on Aug 24, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
If Anderson headlines FOX
he better not shit in the cage again. Of course, that all depends on who they throw in front of him.
as long as it isn't a jiu jitsu guy...he should be good.
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by Chris Groves on Aug 23, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You can tell Sonnen really doesn't like the idea of dropping out of the Stann fight
He has talked a lot about guys who drop out of fights, and has assured people that once tickets go on sale, it’s a douche move to drop off a card.
Of course he is a big time company man, and if the UFC asks him to, he would.
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I think "Sonnen Trollando" is somehow to blame for this
Not sure of the details, but Hendo vs. Silva makes zero sense.
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by AwkwardwithwordmakingisGoldberg,huhJoe on Aug 23, 2011 11:11 PM EDT reply actions
If Henderson beats Fedor and Silva back to back he is #1 P4P
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If Hendo beats Silva and Fedor will he be what Randy Couture wasn’t? A relevant “elderly” statesmen? Also when will the roid accusations happen?
Also when will the roid accusations happen?
Well, he does have a TUE for TRT so they are right there for the taking whenever someone decides to do it…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 23, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not excited for this
He already beat Hendo and while hendo is a Beast I’d rather see him fight at 205
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by Vaughn MrVon Maurice on Aug 23, 2011 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
Hendo has stated a hundred times
that he cant do MW anymore, hope its a LHW bout!
..but fuck it, WAR HENDO!!!
Did Hendo a 40 year old badass just say "LOL"
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by RolloTomasi on Aug 24, 2011 1:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that was really odd.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 24, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
There's no way this happens
Also this “title shot” would be bullcrap as Hendo lost his last fight at MW, which now stands at 16 months.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
This is silly
Why would you risk turning a 36 year old Anderson or a 41 year old Henderson into your biggest star? There’s not much upside unless the winner goes on to lose spectacularly to Jon Jones, and passes the hype to him.
Lol if Henderson gets another ufc title shot right away wow. What a joke. I hope the Spider destroys him badly if this is true.
by BrockLesnar Budlight on Aug 24, 2011 3:30 AM EDT reply actions
I can’t wait to hear everyone say Hendo “won the first round” after he squirrel taps Anderson 11 times in the 1st round. Hendo may have won rd 1 of the first match, but it was a joke and bringing it up is retarded. He did nothing once he got Anderson to the ground.
No one should wonder why Hendo doesn’t use his wrestling, because he has no skills once he gets someone down there.
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by discoandherpes on Aug 24, 2011 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, I think you’re missing it. Hendo won the first round, and it’s completely relevant. Retarded? Being the first fighter to take a round away from the UFC’s most dominant champion at the time is a joke? How about the fact that no one else has done nearly as much since that round until Chael Sonnen?
And as it has been said, there’s more than a couple of opponents who disagree with that whole no skills on the ground thinking line. Babalu, Palhares, pretty sure Bisping decided he’d rather not be on his back against Dan again.
Travis Lutter took a round from Silva.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 24, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe, I just think that people talk about it way too much. If Hendo did any kind of damage at all, I’d probaby not stretch the truth like that, but taking a round while doing absolutely no damage has no credence to me.
But I was being a bit of an ass when I said that Hendo has no skills on the ground. He does, but they’re probably a bit overrated as well (which is why he prefers to stand). Don’t get me wrong, I like Dan and his fights are usually entertaining. The round he won was a legit win, it just doesn’t warrant mentioning to me. His offense was completely stifled, and against a true stopper like A Silva, stalling for a round isn’t going to get you anywhere.
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This fight makes little sense to me
Sorry. I dont think Dana would risk Anderson’s legacy pushing him into a fight above his weight class against an extrememly dangerous opponent…… unless….. it’s to set up an Anderson Vs Bones superfight ????
Henderson Machida is the only option I like at the mo.
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Risking his legacy? This doesn't make sense.
One, it would be a big money, national American exposure for Anderson Silva.
Second, he beat Henderson at 185lbs, he already felt his power and did not wilt.
Third, Silva told the organization that he wants big fights and is willing to fight at 205lbs. He proved it himself against James Irvin and then the former LHW Forrest Griffin. Griffin in not a small LHW.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 24, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, it would appear as though Henderson is much more comfortable at 205lbs than he ever was at 185lbs after cutting all that weight. If Henderson/Silva II happened at 205lbs, I wouldn’t use their first encounter too too much when trying to come up with predictions…
Yeah I agree.
But suggesting that Anderson (and company) are trying to protect his legacy doesn’t make sense. If Silva loses (just like if Fedor or GSP loses) their legacy remains solid.
Henderson is a far better fighter at 205lbs than 185lbs. for sure but still something tells me that his recent winning streak won’t help him against Anderson Silva.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 24, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly on the legacy issue. A loss to a current 205lb champion (even in another organization) doesn’t really hurt Anderson. I mean, two first round knockouts at 205, one of which was over a former champion, are a good anchor. And the knowledge of having defeated Henderson at Silva’s natural weight of 185 in a decisive finish would suggest that if nothing else, we get the big trilogy culmination on a PPV.
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