The UFC's Strange Promotion of Yushin Okami
Remember that scene in Bambi where Thumper made fun of Bambi because he "doesn't walk very good"? And then Thumper's mom is all, "Yo, Thumper, what did daddy say this morning?" (Thumper has the short-term memory of Leonard Shelby.) And Thumper delivers a line regurgitated by American mothers ever since: If you can't something nice, don't say nothing at all. (The Thumper family is more concerned with morality than grammar, apparently.)
It's a silly, though idealistic way, of operating in polite society. Yet, I think, with a slight tweak of the wording, there's a message in there for fight promoters. First, let's take a look at this hype video from UFC 134:
The video starts at 2:02. Here's a transcription up to the 2:20 mark:
Dana White: The best fighter to come out of Japan, if he beats Anderson Silva he finally gets not only the title, but the recognition he deserves.
Mike Goldberg: Riding a three-fight winning streak of his own, Okami's strength and power makes [sic] him the greatest threat Silva has faced as champion.
The UFC promotes mismatch main events like a cheating spouse caught in the act: It's not what it looks like! Go back and watch the title defenses of Anderson Silva and Georges St. Pierre over the last few years, and, 9 times out of 10, Joe Rogan is going to tell you that if you wanted to put together an opponent to beat Anderson/GSP it would be [guy standing across the cage].
The UFC took that strategy to the extreme for St. Pierre's title defense against Jake Shields. Rather than promoting their Canadian posterboy for the dominant champion that he is, all the promotion went towards propping up Shields as a legitimate threat, almost trying to suggest that his success over the last few years mirrored that of the champion. Of course, St. Pierre coasted through the fight, the latter half with one eye, and now Shields is headlining a free TV show with Jake Ellenberger.
That trend is repeated by calling the "greatest threat Silva has faced as champion." It is doubly hilarious when the operating clause references Okami's "strength and power" (Okami has all of 9 [T]KOs in his 26 career wins) as the basis for that claim. Okami isn't the greatest threat to Silva's title this year when you consider betting lines have him just about twice the underdog compared to Vitor Belfort in February.
Dana White's line is the epitome of promoterspeak. The UFC has been very careful to label Okami as the best fighter to "come out" of Japan, and not the greatest Japanese fighter of all time. Dana White is just as big a Sakuraba mark as any other Pride fanboy, and this allows them to push a angle for Okami with some wiggle room if anyone decides to call him out on it.
And the idea that Okami will "finally" (!) get the recognition he deserves might as well have been written by the Outer Party. After losing to Rich Franklin at UFC 72, two of Okami's next three fights took place on the then-unaired prelims. After losing to Chael Sonnen, Okami fought Lucio Linhares on the (again, unaired) prelims of a free TV show. Both of Okami's appearances in a main event (against Franklin and his last fight against Marquardt at UFC 122) headlined drab European shows, the latter of which was shown on tape delay on Spike TV. Yuhsin Okami doesn't get recognition because the UFC has done everything in its power to prevent that from happening.
Pushing a personality or a character or a fight is all about finding truth and exaggerating it: If you don't have anything truthful to say, don't say anything at all.
Because here's the problem: The most likely scenario next Saturday is that Anderson Silva beats Yushin Okami in a fight that doesn't look very competitive. When that comes to fruition, you devalue two things. You devalue the Japanese market and every fighter coming out of it (not a huge concern for the UFC, though it hurts Hatsu Hioki) and you devalue every single opponent Anderson Silva has fought during his title run (which is important since they're likely looking at a rematch with Sonnen next).
I see the truth of this fight, from Okami's perspective, as such: Yushin Okami has struggled for recognition from fans and promotion alike amid compiling a 10-2 record in the UFC. At 30 years old, Okami is at the peak of his career, and this is probably his last shot at winning UFC gold. I'd stay away from references to the earthquake and tsunami (that's way too melodramatic for my tastes) unless Okami pushed that himself.
That's the kind of story you want to paint for a huge underdog entering the biggest fight of his career.
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I don’t know whether Dana White is that ignorant about MMA history or if he was just trolling when he claimed Okami is better than Kazushi Sakuraba.
He's not ignorant
While told me it was “absolutely true” in July of 2010 that Saku was the greatest Japanese fighter of all time:
http://mma.sbnation.com/2011/8/17/2368168/ufc-rio-kazushi-sakuraba-dana-white-yushin-okami-mma-news
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by Luke Thomas on Aug 17, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he’s not ignorant, he’s not trolling, he’s promoting.
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by troy145 on Aug 17, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
The line between trolling and promoting can get pretty thin.
by Damnatio Memoriae on Aug 17, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Because calling Yushin Okami the second greatest Japanese fighter is going to work?
What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease.
-Sun Tze
he could say
the best mma fighter coming from Japan, after Sakuraba! !!! :)
by Nodir Shermatov on Aug 17, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Surprised how a single off hand remark by one man has generated so much interweb buzz. Should be a good fight with or without dana’s countdown comments.
by mr.mmaman on Aug 17, 2011 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I CAN'T BELIEVE THESE ASSHOLES ARE TRYING TO INCREASE PPV VIEW BUYS!
ANGER!!!!
Thank you UFC fans. My name Stun Gun. I want GSP
Go back and watch the title defenses of Anderson Silva and Georges St. Pierre over the last few years, and, 9 times out of 10, Joe Rogan is going to tell you that if you wanted to put together an opponent to beat Anderson/GSP it would be [guy standing across the cage].
I know this, but I fall for it and love it every time!
by jammushi on Aug 17, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
“That trend is repeated by calling the “greatest threat Silva has faced as champion.” It is doubly hilarious when the operating clause references Okami’s “strength and power” (Okami has all of 9 [T]KOs in his 26 career wins) as the basis for that claim."
I think by “strength and power” they’re referring to his grappling strength. Sonnen certainly goes on and on about how strong Okami is.
That said, the average fan is going to think it refers to his KO power, and that’s probably what matters more.
www.instrength.com
Is Okami still training with TQ?
If so (and they want to promote this/hype it up) they should just let Chael dub all of Yushin’s promos wearing a fake mustache and posing as his “translator”
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Aug 17, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
haha, that'd be awesome. like a bizarro Ed Soares.
or like Bobby “The Brain” Heenan back in the 80s managing a Samoan guy who they never let on the mic.
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(The Thumper family is more concerned with morality than grammar, apparently.)
As we all should be.
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by troy145 on Aug 17, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Yup
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by justsomehawkeyefan on Aug 17, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how they market him as "One of the Strongest MWs Ever"
Apparently this fight they are gonna have a strongman contest in it. They also don’t explain if Anderson is stronger than he is. They clearly couldn’t think of anything good to say to about him and I find it funny they went about that.
New UFC hype message
“So here’s this guy. Don’t worry about remembering his name…”
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by Dave Strummer on Aug 17, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Remember that guy that did that thing and tried to shock the world but then lost really badly? Yeah, there’s a new guy that does this other thing, who’ll shock the world…
Rogan:
THIS GUY HAS BEEN TAILOR-MADE TO DEFEAT ______, ________ is in for the hardest fight of his life.
Next fight for _: After dismantling the serious contender that was that other dude, we have this dude, who is a stronger version of the last guy. _______ will certainly have a fight on his hands, and will undoubtably have a lot to work on if he wants to win this fight….
Let the fighters fight, let the referees ref, but dear God, don't let the judges judge.
I think Okami has a better shot than most.
AS struggled with Sonnen’s wrestling and Okami could pose the same sort of problem. Middleweight doesn’t have the same number of high level wrestlers that the other weight classes have and I think that has resulted in unanswered questions about AS. If I was going to beat him LnP would be my method of choice.
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Okami's wrestling is not nearly on the level of Sonnen's
And he’s not as quick or dynamic in changing levels as Chael. Furthermore, Anderson freaking took Chael down. He can’t wrestle well, but he’s not hopeless.
Okami can’t LnP or stall his way to victory. In fact I can totally see any scenario where they clinch against the cage end in a violent fight-ending knee.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
I don't think Okami is a favorite, but
given what we saw Sonnen do I think he is the best stylistic match for Silva. If something happens in the fight that slows down Silva (injury, bad night, etc.) I think Okami has a sill set that, when coupled with a conservative game plant, could win the fight. I think he’s got a much better shot than Maia had for instance.
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Okami is not Chael Sonnen.
The only other MMA fighter that reminds me of Chael Sonnen in the UFC fights at LW and has a tendency to burp before and after matches. I still think Sonnen’s MMA wrestling is better.
Vitor Belfort decided to fight conservatively for a couple of seconds against Anderson Silva. There was nothing conservative about Sonnen’s approach against Anderson Silva.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 17, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Re-post from an earlier comment of mine
This is Anderson’s fight to lose. While Okami isn’t as prone to being submitted as Chael, he is also not as relentless, smothering, or active in getting the fight to the ground and from top position. He may be strong, but he is slower and hesitates more. You need a little of that Chael madness to accomplish what he did against Anderson. That and anderson is not coming into this fight with hurt ribs.
Okami has actually been training with Chael for this fight so I think we could see a more ‘Chael’ like Okami in this fight. Minus the trash talk obv. His basic skill set combined with being a strong person gives him a potential path to victory. There’s a great chance of it happening, but how Silva handles wrestlers is a question that I would like to see answered.
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I hear what your saying but I think that while Chael may be able to teach techniques and experience to Okami, I don’t think he can impart that relentless Chael madness that is really his signature style. That blind, unstoppable force attitude is crucial to do what he did to anderson. Okami will have to go through a fundamental shift in mentality and fight personality, and when you’re in the cage with Silva, its all to easy to revert to the natural tendencies you’ve built throughout your career.
Chael’s mindset is best asset, not to mention his ability to take a punch or two. That knee Marquardt hit him with was WICKED.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 17, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy takes a hit on the chin incredibly well
I know exactly which Marquardt knee you’re thinking of and it was unbelievable Chael not only took it but got the take down.
Same goes for start of round 2 or 3 of his fight with Anderson. He got clocked and staggered but recovered within seconds.
No.
Nate Marquardt, Kenny Florian and Rashad Evans all train with GSP.
- It didn’t help Marquardt against Sonnen or Okami.
- GSP’s wrestling didn’t help Florian against Maynard
- Rashad Evans’ wrestling looked very GSP-esque against Thiago Silva and Rampage.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 17, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I was about to post a long repsonse but you got this covered.
End statement. CHael SOnnen is a different kind of MMA wrestler.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 17, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey! Jake Shields was a legitimate threat.
Didn’t you watch the ad? Shields “sent Mayhem packing” and “upset” Robbie Lawler! The MMA-friendly newspapers said so!
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
It was 10% luck! 20% skill!
15% concentrated power or will!
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by dgonz on Aug 17, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I haven't logged on here to post a comment in almost a year...
But this made me lmfao.
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*takes bow*
I am honored sir
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Well, it might seem silly in hindsight, but he did upset Robbie Lawler.
http://bestfightodds.com/fighters/Robbie-Lawler-227
That's not nearly a large enough betting line
For it to be an upset.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
The lines were close
but most of the fans were thinking that Robbie would liquidize Jake’s face.
“Liquidize.” Use it.
Speaking of strange promotions
What the hell is up with the UFC calling Demetrious Johnson a “lightning striker”? That’s what’s on their Versus ads.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
LIGHTNING STRIKER DEMETRIOUS JOHNSON [clip of him flailing wildly while lurching forward]
The UFC is the ultimate spin machine.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Aug 17, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, that's a title fight
With arguably a top 5 p4p fighter in the sport (yes, I think Cruz is top 5 p4p) and they give it a 10 second promotion spin.
If there isn’t a Countdown show on this it’s disgusting. Cruz could be one of the most dominant Zuffa champions ever and here he is fighting “lightning striker” when “athletic and explosive” are right there for use!!!!
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
by SSreporters on Aug 17, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That happens every fight for every major star for every combat sport
It’s for all the casual fans not the geeks, have y’all all been living under a rock??
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by antone04 on Aug 17, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Um
Okami is 1-0 against Anderson Silva, so calling this a “mismatch” is a little silly. I can’t imagine a more competitive fight at 185 for Silva than Okami (and don’t you dare say GSP).
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 17, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
Okami is 1-0 but not through his own doing
Yushin didn’t win by himself.
It’s not a mismatch but I don’t see many ways for Yushin to win.
And sadly, this is the most competitive fight for Anderson Silva at 185 beyond Chael Sonnen, who he would just submit again.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
Ryo Chonan is also 1-0… would that disqualify it from being a mismatch?
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
Takase too.
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Aug 17, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Chonan can totally pull that submission off again. I think Blackburn could beat him.
Brad Blackburn > Ryo Chonan > Anderson Silva
FLAWLESS!!!
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
Option 1 for defeating Anderson Silva: flying heel hook
Option 2: get knocked unconscious and hope for a DQ
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
I wish Chonan had never finished with that damn flying heel hook. It completely overshadows the fact that Chonan was already well on his way to taking the decision from Silva. Now thanks to the highlights and people that refuse to watch the fight but continue to comment on it, it looks like some kind of freak win when it clearly wasn’t.
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by exsanguinator on Aug 17, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonnen
"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Aug 17, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Aug 17, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
sometimes you hurt my head
I guess Jones/Hamill wouldn’t be a mismatch either… Hammil is 1-0 against Jones!
by dbcb on Aug 17, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
LOL
I suppose Jon Jones/Matt Hamill 2 wouldn’t have been a mismatch either (before Hamill retired, of course).
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Hamill knocked out Mark Munoz, a top 5 MW
Jones’ chin has never really been tested. That would’ve been a difficult fight.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
TELL'EM SUBO!!!!


Okami beat the shit out of Silva. Not sure what the ferk these other clowns is talking about.
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by Damon O. on Aug 17, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That is wicked. If only it were legal...then fghters who prefer to work the ground from guard would be more dangerous.
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Yeah, there’s no reason for that kick to be illegal.
My name isn't Todd.
by Tedd Welch on Aug 17, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
agreed, its actually a beautiful finish would it be legal.Give the guy on bottom this and the guy on top 12-6 elbows and we would have a lot of beautiful violence in front of us.
by the guy with the big nose on Aug 17, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Aug 17, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
okami said he considers it a loss.
So do I. You get no love for your non-sense.
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 17, 2011 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I could not agree more.
I do think, however, the trend is more disturbing in Silva’s case.
One could make a legitimate argument – as legitimate as these arguments tend to be – that four of GSP’s last six opponents (Fitch, Penn, Alves [the least credible], and Shields) were top ten pound-for-pound at the time.
Silva’s opponents, on the other hand, are an entirely different story. The last top ten pound-for-pound opponent he fought was Dan Henderson, while two of his title challengers were subsequently cut from the UFC.
Here's a fun look at Silva's opponents
Silva’s opponents.
- Cote replaced an injured Okami – broken hand. The show goes on.
- Leites . . . there wasn’t any one else at the time. But still he didn’t deserve the title shot.
- Maia replaced Belfort.
- Lutter, like Serra won a reality show to get his title shot.
- James Irvin (at 205) . . . Joe Silva asked 4 other fighters before he called Irvin.
Let’s look at very credible this other opponents
- Franklin – former champion
- Marquardt – Pancrase champion
- Dan Henderson – champion or champion that never held a UFC title
- Belfort – former HW and LHW champion
- Sonnen – solid top contender that can not defeat Demian Maia – never a champion
- Forrest Griffin – former LHW champion that defeated Shogun & Rampage. Note, he will defeat Shogun at Rio making Silva’s victory even more impressive.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 17, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Lutter
got a shot as a result of winning a fairly impressive tournament really.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Aug 17, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
So did Matt Serra. (wink)
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 17, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting.
You thus feel that, due to prior opposition, the ridiculous promotion of Cote, Leites, Maia, etc., as legitimate threats was justified?
I was not attacking Silva’s roster of opponents, but rather the silliness of the promotion behind them – showing that, in comparison, their recent promotion has been more outrageous than similar promotion of GSP’s. Or, would you disagree that Vitor Belfort and, say, Fitch, Alves or Penn deserve similar promotion based on victories earned in the past ten years?
That said, I did enjoy your tangents!
by Disco-Platypus on Aug 17, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Just more fun.
Here’s what you’re not pointing out aout GSP’s opponents.
- Shields held multiple titles. Did Fitch win a championship?
- Penn at the time was P4P largely for his work in the LIGHTWEIGHT division as the champion. Note, he only defeated one person in the WW division, the former champion Matt Hughes. But wait, he lost the subsequent rematch. All that to say, how did he jump-skip the other WW competitors for a title shot? Hype? Can Fitch get a rematch? ever?
- Alves? yeah I guess so but P4P? No. Champion? No. How many times will Alves lose to Fitch? How many more times will Alves miss weight? Or experience another bad weight cut?
P4P is strictly based on opinions. Championship titles is something you can easily touch, quantify and measure its weight in gold.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 17, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
that bj ww comment isnt correct and he was a former ww champ.
You left that out of your narrative.
So gsp has 4 wins over major promotion champs . And has lost to 2 of them (some say three)
Silva has 7 wins over major promotion champs.
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 17, 2011 3:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lost to 0 of them.
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 17, 2011 3:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
silva has 8 champ wins
Forgot Nate the great. I added mach at w.w. back in the day.
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 17, 2011 3:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Silva not only defeated top P4P Mach but he handed him his first loss.
Like Ed Soares always loves to point out, Anderson has never lost a title fight.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 17, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh.
Are we seriously counting the WEC, and Pancrase in this? Really? That is interesting.
by Disco-Platypus on Aug 17, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
those are/were credible promotions.
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by cosmic fist technique on Aug 17, 2011 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks. Yeah BJ did hold the gold.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 17, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
let's not forget to mention "Knock Out Artist, Brendan Schaub"...
his nickname should be “the granny abuser”
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Knock Out Artist* Brendan Schaub
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"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."
by menckenstein on Aug 17, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think they would push Okami more
If they didn’t have such a strong supporting cast. They don’t really need to bother pushing him too far, because they can make more headway reminding everyone that Anderson is a destroyer of worlds and Forrest, Shogun and Big Nog are all on the card.
Head conductor of the Charles Oliveira hype train.
I’m not saying they need to push Okami more. If anything, I think they need to pull back on the hyperbole.
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People like to complain about Ed Soares, but I swear whoever the UFC uses to translate its promos is worse. Ed Soares may eventually embroider a bit or omit something, but he mostly repeats what his fighter just said in more or less incomplete form. The UFC translator just makes stuff up.
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Its funny how people claims to be Okami fans and hate on Fitch
Fitch is alot more exciting then Yushin Okami who must have the lowest punch output in the UFC. The guy just stands in front of his opponents for half the round and slowly stalks them. Then he throws a couple of jabs and maybe initiate the clinch and works for a TD. The guy has zero personality and his whole skillset is based on his size. Is it just me or do mma fans have a tendence to nuthug asian fighters? I mean how many asian fighters haven’t been over hyped and then been exposed when they come to the UFC
by Mohammedini Hussein on Aug 17, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
1) where is this outpouring of Okami fan support you're seeing?
and
2) Fitch isn’t a lot more exciting than anyone.
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by Dave Strummer on Aug 17, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you want me to hate on Okami, I don’t get that? The guy beat Marquardt and Munoz in his last two fights, you want us to say he is a scrub? And he is everything but overhyped, people are sleeping on him big time.
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Did you see those fights?
He got dropped in the seccond round by Munoz and barely won the first round. Yushin won the fight but it was close. Marquardt just let Yushin win it in the last round by just doing nothing and Yushin barely won that round. Marquardt choked. And the fight was close. I’m not saying he’s overhyped. I’m just saying asian fighters tend to be overhyped by mma fans. Nobody can deny that people have somekind of a soft spot for japanese fighters. Just look at Gomi. People were picking Gomi over Florian(LOOOOL) and Gomi over Guida. They announced Gomi vs Edson Barboza and people were spouting “Gomi By KO he isn’t on gomi’s lvl”. really? are you fucking joking me? He isn’t close to a striker like Edson. Remember how people talked up Gomi after he KO’d Griffin.
by Mohammedini Hussein on Aug 17, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Just for the sake of even-handedness, why are you mentioning Munoz dropping Okami but not Okami dropping Munoz?
My name isn't Todd.
Oh shit! you're right he did get dropped
Lol at Munoz glass jaw. I mean Demian Maia gave him stanky legs
by Mohammedini Hussein on Aug 18, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Munoz clearly lost that fight
It wasn’t close.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
Wasn't it even a split decision?
After watching it I was pretty pissed about that. Okami pretty much won it. Only Cecil scored the Munoz TDs over everything else.
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Yushin had a Dominate Round while the other round he won wasn't much to score on
2 close rounds but on clearly Yushin and one clearly Munoz. But still close. The first round that Yushin won but it was close. The second Munoz arguably won if you count a KD as better then a TD. 3 rnd was clearly dominate round for Yushin. Based on the last round people saw it as Yushin Dominating Munoz which he didn’t. Yushin clearly won but based on the first round it was a close fight but with Yushin as the clear winner
by Mohammedini Hussein on Aug 18, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
The guy has zero personality
- One he’s from a different culture.
- He doesn’t speak English.
Why are you judging his personality?
It’s you, I don’t see a tendency to praise, celebrate, cheer asian fighter.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Aug 17, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
This is Dana the promoter talking..
Okami is an average fighter at best, he beat Nate? That means nothing. Expect Okami’s teeth to be flying across the cage. I will be shocked if he gets thru the first round.
you’re right, they should say something like, “this guy doesn’t have a lot of finishes, is probably going to lose AND he’s not even the best fighter to come out of Japan despite his UFC record”
they are promoting a fight.
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by cosmic fist technique on Aug 17, 2011 3:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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I hope Patrick Cote was that 10th guy.
lol
Well you see Cote is a boxer….. And um …. Yeah…. Well …. If you are going to beat Anderson its going to be on the feet….. I’m sorry thats a lie. Cote’s best bet is having a Knee injury , otherwise he may lose his life in the cage. – Joe Rogan on the Cote fight
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by the-gentle-way on Aug 17, 2011 3:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Okami is a real threat to Anderson Silva
I don’t think he’ll win, but Okami has advantages in a few areas. First, he has faced Silva before. He understands how dangerous and explosive Anderson can be. Second, he’s one of the bigger middleweights in the world. Anderson won’t have a size advantage in height or weight walking into the cage. Third, Okami is hard to finish. Only once has it happened in his career and he has only two decision losses in the UFC. Add it all up and I think Okami could have the right mix to grind out a decision victory over the champion. Okami’s standup game is still his weakness, but it is improved from his first fight with Anderson in 2006. His strength is still his wrestling and clinch game, which he used in recent victories against Nate Marquardt and Mark Munoz. I wouldn’t be surprised if performs well against Anderson. This might be another one where Anderson pulls a submission victory after getting taken down.
anderson is not going to submit okami from the guard ill bet my house on that. i have a bad feeling though that okami is going to try to box anderson it gets me so mad when this wrestlers/judo master try to box the better striker. just like jake shields did like i still don’t understand wtf was he thinking trying to out strike gsp.
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Solid Memento refrence.
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