UFC Should Follow NFL's Example on HGH Testing
In the battle between performance enhancing drugs and the testing methods to catch athletes using them, the PED's have always had the lead. While that isn't really going to change, there have been advancements that make HGH testing much more accurate. This development does change the game though as each level of drug that can be detected makes those athletes who are cheating up their game along with it, increasing the price of being in the business of cheating and the risk of being caught.
David Castillo has been doing great work at Head Kick Legend and he recently wondered if Zuffa would take notice of the advances in testing, bringing up Zuffa head figure attitudes toward the subject of HGH in the past:
While Lorenzo Ferttita has been a bit more direct (by comparison at least) than Dana White on the issue of drug testing, Dana himself always falls back on the "our hands are tied behind our back" defense, pretending that athletic commissions are omnipotent (despite frequently overruling their judgment with win bonuses for fighters who lost*), and Zuffa is helpless. Zuffa is many things: "helpless" is not one of them. While TRT has been the topic 'de jour' in relation to performance enhancement, it neglects the buffet of PED's at an athlete's disposal: namely HGH.
The recent NFL lockout saw many changes, both big and small, come to the game of football. But one of the most shocking was the addition of actual HGH testing for the league. Something that should start as soon as the opening of the regular season. Via the Washington Post:
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Friday he's confident that the league and players' union will agree to testing procedures in time for players to be blood-tested for human growth hormone in the opening week of the regular season.
"I think that's what we want to work through in the next few weeks but we're both committed to getting it done by the start of the regular season because we do believe in the integrity of the game," Goodell told the league-owned NFL Network. "We do believe that's a critical feature. We think it's best for the health and safety of the players, also. So we're going to get it done but we want to get it done right."
The NFL is also going to be testing recruits at the scouting combine starting in 2012.
Given that Dana White's stance is that the UFC is not in competition with other MMA promotions, but rather with the major pro sports leagues like the NFL, they have a chance to push for their sport to be held to the same level of increased testing as the nation's premier sports league.
There are conflicting feelings on if the testing is truly cost prohibitive for athletic commissions. But given that we have seen the UFC and Strikeforce have implemented their own testing in situations that necessitate it, the UFC could take the major step of introducing their own testing for their athletes.
Given their reaction to Nate Marquard and the TRT situation, one would think that there is a high premium on having a clean sports league. Unless the true crime was ruining a main event as opposed to "cheating."
The move by the NFL sets a new standard for what is expected for sports at the highest level. The UFC could continue to do huge things for the sport of mixed martial arts by looking to step up its own drug testing regimen and working harder to establish a more level playing field than we've yet seen.
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There are some legal issues which prevents the UFC from doing this for all fighters
MMA is not legally recognised as a sport in the UK, is basically Shooto in France and not recognised as a sport in Holland. Thus the UFC falls under employer/employee drug testing laws in these countries in france & holland it’s illegal except for Health and Safety workers and prior consent is required here in england.
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It's recognised as a sport in Holland
Just not widely practiced.
by Thomas Benjamin on Aug 11, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure they could go to all fighters and say “sign a consent form saying that we will test you before all fights” and if they don’t, you tell them that you won’t give them fights. It wouldn’t be the first time they’ve done this.
Of course, having a cleaner sport might not matter as much as having guys sign away their likeness rights for all time.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
This is true
If they wanted to do it, the fighters would have no choice but to go along – surely enough examples have already been made of people, but at worst it would take one trying to fight it, not to mention the stigma that would come from the very act of trying to fight testing.
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by The American Ronin on Aug 11, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The crime
Is most certainly the ruining of the main event.
by kungfugiber on Aug 11, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
If this testing does go into place
Prepare to see a lot of guys “turning to yoga” and slimming down. Whole lot of baseball players “wanted to trim down” after testing was stepped up.
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Yeah- lots of ball players also came down with a sudden case of ADHD.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 11, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
That's a slippery slope for the UFC.
Even the testing they do for foreign events has come under fire from critics for being too incestuous and having the potential for impropriety. The calls should be for the ACs to up the testing. If funding is the sole issue, then perhaps this can be achieved through an event tax charged to the promotions, added fee (or extra $ taken out of the gate) to tickets, or reallocation of fighters’ licensing fees.
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by John Danaher's Hair on Aug 11, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions
First, a quick edit, then my disagreement
Given their reaction to Nate Marquard and the TRT situation,
My focus is on seeing that every professional fighter is thoroughly tested throughout their careers, not just if/when they ascend to the UFC. That’s why I believe AC protocol, as opposed to a Zuffa initiative, is necessary.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 11, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
I don’t really care if guys are tested in the Arena Football League or CFL, I only care about the NFL’s testing.
Would it be awesome if there wasn’t such a fucking mess at the government level that we had money for the state government to put into this level of testing? Sure! But it’s not realistic.
I think the UFC is what matters and a part of their signing process that could keep guys clean is knowing that when the UFC moves to sign you, you have 24 hours to show up at one of their approved testing facilities and submit to a blood and urine test.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the UFC is what matters and a part of their signing process that could keep guys clean is knowing that when the UFC moves to sign you, you have 24 hours to show up at one of their approved testing facilities and submit to a blood and urine test.
While that is great in theory if one idealizes stopping PED usage, it is completely unrealistic in reality due to the expense on the fighter and completely screwing up their schedule, training and otherwise.
The only way it could be fairly done is to use the Olympic-style program where the athlete must keep them continually notified of their whereabouts and are subject to “anytime, anywhere” testing where the testers come to them – a huge undertaking logistically and an incredible expense overall – and it still misses all of the bleeding edge drugs, chemicals and techniques.
Bottom line – for the general public and the politicians there must be a “credible” program in place, even if it does essentially nothing in reality.
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by The American Ronin on Aug 11, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Money...
The UFC isn’t raking in NFL type of revenue. This will be problematic and cut into the bottom line immensely.
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Out of curiosity, how much do you actually think adding this type of testing would cut into their bottom line?
How expensive is this testing? Are we talking 100K+ per event? More? Less?
Sheeeeeeeee-it
Blood testing is very expensive, and it is expensive enough that many athletic commissions don’t do it.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 11, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
That's the real issue
Proposing that the UFC pick up the AC’s slack here is to proposing letting the AC’s off the hook for doing the same testing on every fighter.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 11, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point
AC should not be left off the hook. But if its funding that is the problem, then i see why they are slow to move.
Its too bad the big promotions don’t call out the AC on the cheating that i’m sure is running ramped. But i see why they don’t want to ruffle any feathers.
I just really hate how they play it off like they are doing enough testing to make sure these guys aren’t cheating but they aren’t even testing for known performance enhancing drugs.
Sheeeeeeeee-it
They also don’t have the same # of athletes to test that the NFL does.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Banning HGH
is not the most intelligent of decisions simply because it should not be considered a performance enhancing drug and the test is likely to be inaccurate. Human growth hormone is produced naturally by the human body and HGH levels can be drastically altered even by a simple change in diet. There are also genetic disorders which can raise or lower a person’s level of HGH.
Bigfoot Silva, for example, has Acromegaly. Acromegaly, which is more commonly known as Giantism, is a disorder in which which a tumor grows on the pituitary gland (responsible for the natural production of HGH) causing an elevated level of growth hormone. Bigfoot’s HGH levels are almost certainly higher than the average person. Should he be banned from competition?
It seems to me that many fighters who have not used HGH as a performance enhancer would still be flagged for elevated levels. This would be unfair to the fighters, a waste of time and money for the promoters and athletic commissions, and possibly could ruin any number of intriguing fights the fans may want in the future. I say no to HGH testing.
There is already designer stuff out there that can beat the newer testing.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 11, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really see the UFC doing much, if anything on this.
It would be great if they did, but the other sports only started drug testing because the real media made it into a big enough story for Congress to get involved, and that’s not going to happen to the UFC.
If congress calls dana and says they want more drug testing he will just say, “the government already runs the drug testing, if you want me to do more, you need to get rid of the commissions and let me do whatever i want,” and that would be very bad, because drug testing UFC level fighters is a very small percentage of the value the commissions bring to the table.
More talk with little research, Brent...
I must say I’m disappointed. Though you have pointed to a vague ‘advancement’ in hGH testing, you should have gone further. hGH testing has historically been extremely unreliable. Though there is a urine test available at the moment, it will not detect hGH beyond a couple of weeks. An athlete will simply stop taking hGH a few weeks out and piss clean. And keep in mind hGH is not like anabolics where the athlete loses a lot of his ‘gains.’
Also, using the NFL as a shinging example of how drug testing should be run is downright hilarious. Sure…no drug issues in the NFL, no doubt. A league where it is not uncommon for a 300 lb+ lineman runing the 40 in less than 5 seconds…no drugs at all! If you have the opportunity, you may want to have a candid conversation with pro- and college athletes to get a handle on how common PEDs are. And if you think the NFL’s policy is a game-changer, you are kidding yourself.
I truly find this type of self-righteous anti-PED talk funny. It generally comes from those you have very little idea of the complexity in testing for PEDs and an unawareness of PEDs themselves. hGH has been around forever—the next generation of drugs like IGF-1, mGF, and prostaglandins are even more effective and are not in the system as long. Beyond that, ‘gene doping’ may already be a reality, though admittedly I am not aware of it outside of the laboratory.
Ultimately, the UFC would simply be pissing their money away for an expensive and ineffectivene PED test—let the commissions deal with it. And in the future, could you please do some research first and get some hard facts and numbers?
by Otz on Aug 11, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
So much truth to this. Testing is a false hope and will never catch everybody. It won’t even catch most honestly. Instead it will catch those guys who screw up their cycles or who aren’t using the newest and best out there. A clean sport would be awesome, but it is never going to happen. It hasn’t happened in the NFL, NBA, or the MLB.
Truth be told most fans of the sport don’t even care as long as they are getting a good fight. Writers made such a huge deal about Sonnen for example but when he steps into the cage with Stann it will be as if nothing ever happened. Fans will cheer for him and they will boo him just the same as when he stepped into the cage with Anderson. I’ll go further and say that I expect he will get even more cheers than ever.
Tougher testing procedures is not something the average fan even thinks about. Add in the general ineffectiveness of it and it is silly to see these types of articles popping up every couple of months.
by Empty Thoughts on Aug 11, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The NFL switched to blood testing, they’re trying to up their game.
HGH testing has improved dramatically and continues to improve as scientists get a better grasp on isoform ratios.
Obviously it’s different from a piss test in that it’s going to have to be done randomly out of competition to increase the chances of catching guys.
But I’m not on board with the “fuck it, it’s not 100% effective to test so just test as little as possible” attitude
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 11, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough...
Granted, I disagree with you. I think that PED testing is simply window dressing for the public who are unaware of the widespread use of PEDs. It allows the appearance of a ‘clean’ sport and keeps parents telling ‘little Johnny’ that with clean living and hard work, he can be a top athlete too! What bullshit.
And what is PED use, anyway? I see it as manipulation of body chemistry, not unlike sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber/tent to boost one’s oxygen delivery potential (like BJ Penn) . How BJ does not see the hypocrisy is quite hilarious!
I do recognize that it is unfortunate that some athletes will be excluded from making it pro without PEDs, but this has been the evolution of sports competition for decades. At this point, if one chooses to devote one’s life to competition, then the possibility of having to use PEDs for muscle recovery and injuries should be no surprise, IMO.
I know that the above position may not be especially popular, but I am a realist. Having spoken to so many athletes and personally being aware of the wear and tear that occurs from working out for 20+ hours a week, it is simply naive to believe that PEDs are not here to stay.
No PED testing for hGH or testosterone will ever be at all effective for catching any but the ill-informed or those with counterfeit drugs that aren’t what they think they are, unless it is done “no-notice, anytime, anywhere” – that is simply the nature of the game.
The NFL has not released (or even completed) the final version of its proposed hGH blood testing protocol, but usually when they say “random” they mean the people are selected at random, not that the testing can occur at random, unannounced times. They have made a point to emphasis that they will be doing game day testing, presumably the hGH testing will be done then.
Aside from the historical unreliability of hGH testing, the way it works is by comparing the ratio of 20kD hGH to 22kD hGH (both occur naturally, only 22kD is currently produced commercially). Now, consider that hGH levels and ratios fluctuate considerably within a given person (as opposed to testosterone to epitestosterone which is roughly 1:1 in most people, although levels fluctuate continually with T as well) as well as the fact that the artificial hGH is out of the bloodstream in a couple of days, if not hours, and one can clearly see that any known testing date makes the tests little more than a dog-and-pony show, albeit an expensive one.
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by The American Ronin on Aug 11, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions
There you are!
I knew I could count on The American Ronin for another great analysis!
To add to that
In addition to the obvious fact that a lab could produce a balanced version of hGH 20kD and 22kD (although hGH production is a whole different game entirely than steroid manufacture), there are other bleeding edge things that are available to those with knowledge and means that aren’t tested for (and no tests exist for to my knowledge) such as IGF-1, IGF-2 LR3 (IGF is released by the liver when stimulated by hGH and is thought by many to be the main path for the performance enhancing qualities of hGH), insulin, GHRP, GHRH, AICAR and more today, with gene doping (er, gene therapy) on the horizon, if not already in use somewhere.
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by The American Ronin on Aug 11, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I mentioned a couple of those above..
And I understand that PGF2 has also been used, but the side-effects of massive diarrhea and muscle cramps makes it almost to stay the course. Given what is done in the lab with gene therapy and overexpression vectors over the last decade, I bet a couple of athletes have already given it a try.
Given what is done in the lab with gene therapy and overexpression vectors over the last decade, I bet a couple of athletes have already given it a try.
I agree, and I can’t imagine there haven’t been some connected enough to manage to do so.
While I agree the dog-and-pony show is probably needed for Joe Fan and Joe Politician as eliminating all testing is , in reality what is the line of demarcation for “performance enhancing”? You cited BJ’s use of a hyperbaric chamber which imo is exactly the same thing in principal, but where does one draw the line between “allowable” technique or supplement and “illegal” performance enhancer? I see them as essentially the same in principle.
I have no data whatsoever to support this, and I doubt any exists, but I suspect far more athletes owe their successful longevity to improvements in medical and rehabilitation techniques and glucocorticosteroids than to AAS, so again, if there is to be a line, where does one draw it?
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by The American Ronin on Aug 11, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Great points...
I, too, think that the drug testing will continue to be in place to keep up the current facade. And at this point, the ‘allowable’ techniques are dictated by the absence of health consequences, real or perceived. Of course, many PEDs are getting a bad rap b/c of the perceived health effects—that’s the line for many people, IMO. But are PEDs really that dangerous? Abuse…certainly. Cholesterol, organ hypertrophy (for gh), or compromised liver function (for some oral anabolics) may result. But prescribed PED use with a doctor’s supervision (to run cholesterol or organ function tests)…probably not.
Again, an unpopular position that has no chance of happening, but from a purely academic perspective, legalizing and regulating PED use so that an athlete can be monitored by a doctor may be a better policy than banning them outright, IMO. As far as longevity goes, I agree that advances in acute care following an injury, surgical techniques, and rehabilitation techniques have helped longevity. But with the jumps in athletic performance that we’ve seen and athletes staying at the top of their games well into their 30’s? I suspect PED use for both optimizing and maintaining such performance.
The above was meant...
as a reply to The American Ronin
From both an academic and athlete health perspective I think the legalization and regulation route would be preferable, but I can’t see that ever happening either. I guess it is a mix of both PED use and glucocorticosteroid (and NSAID) use that allow the sort of extended “primes” we see today that were essentially nonexistent 30 or more years ago.
I think the judgement that controlled experiments for performance enhancement being considered unethical is a huge hindrance to determining safe and effective levels and eliminating most of the “if 10mg is good, 200mg is that much better” mentality.
As an aside, we are still waiting for the often prophesied waves of post-career deaths as a result of PED use.
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by The American Ronin on Aug 11, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think if I were an athlete in MMA or the NFL I would be all for testing that could make the sport clean (not possible). It would mean less intense training, due to more recovery time needed, and thus less wear and tear on the body. Also, it would mean the athletes would not be quite as strong and fast and lead to less violent damge to their bodies.
It wouldn’t be worth the time and money $$$
HGH is good if you want to lean up a bit and get a Mr. Incredible like jawline, but it really offers little in the way of performance enhancing. More stringent testing for AAS would be much more beneficial.
No...
just…no. See above. The American Ronin is pretty damn knowledgable and, by all means, read up on it yourself. The chemists will always be one, two, or seven steps ahead of those who are charged with testing for PEDs. And many PEDs simply are not detectable.
So?
I’m just saying that testing for HgH has little to no upside. If you’re gonna test at all, test for AAS and be done with it. It’s not going to eliminate the use of PED’s, but at least it will stop guys entering the cage at the peak of their cycles.

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