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UFC on Versus 5 Fight Card: Facebook Prelims Dissection

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No less than eight solid match ups from the UFC on Versus 5 fight card will be streamed live and free on the UFC's Facebook page Sunday night starting at 5:45 p.m ET. The C.B Dollaway vs. Jared Hamman pairing was recently added to the prelims, but I'll be previewing that separately.

This entire event is loaded with salivating fights that will be a challenge to predict, and the Facebook echelon is no exception. I usually feel the slightest flicker of an initial impulse toward one fighter or another, but there's a substantial case for almost every match up unfolding in either direction.

Team Alpha Male's Joseph Benavidez vies to retain top contender honors versus former WEC bantamweight champion Eddie Wineland; Team Jackson's Austrailian rep, middleweight Kyle Noke, will attempt to douse Ed Herman's "Short Fuse;" and another constituent of the BloodyElbow Scouting Report surfaces in light-heavyweight Ronny Markes, who meets Czech clobbering machine Karlos Vemola.

The meanest beanpole in the lightweight mix, ATT's Cole Miller, tangles with T.J. O'Brien, the runner-up for the most wins by triangle in MMA history; adroit wrestlers Jacob Volkmann and Danny Castillo clash in a powerhouse lightweight duel; Alex Caceres, aka "Bruce Leroy", sho'nuff needs to find the glow against UFC newcomer Jim Hettes, and Muay Thai aficionado Edwin Figueroa will pose an unfriendly welcome to the bantamweight division for burly veteran Jason Reinhardt.

Allow me a slight digression: Major utility companies in the U.S. have outsourced their customer billing structures to a separate entity; meaning, when I pay my energy bill, the company that takes my money tacks on an additional charge to complete the transaction. The point? We should all step back and appreciate this rocking lineup of free fights, because we live in a world that has become so insatiably greedy that you have to pay money just to be able to ... pay money.

The whole enchilada is previewed in the full entry, so buckle up for a marathon analysis.

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Benavidez_x_wineland_medium Joseph Benavidez (14-2) vs. Eddie Wineland (18-7-1)

The second (Benavidez) and twelfth best (Wineland) bantamweights in the world will engage here.

The two blemishes on the record of Benavidez came from current divisional champ Dominick Cruz, the first at WEC 42 in a Fight of the Night performance, the second at WEC 50 in Cruz's first title defense; both decisions.

Benavidez has tore through the rest of his opponents, the most noteworthy being violent first round stoppages over Rani Yahya via strikes and dual guillotines fitted to former champ Miguel Torres and Nova Uniao BJJ black belt Wagnney Fabiano.

Eddie Wineland became the WEC's first bantamweight champion by knocking out Antonio Banuelos back at WEC 20 in 2006. He had a thoroughly forgettable birth in the sport, winning just three of his first eight fights with four losses and one draw.

Some type of positive metamorphosis must have occurred, as Wineland went on to win fifteen of his next eighteen fights--  twelve of which were finishes-- and cement himself as a . He lost his WEC title to Chase Beebe and dropped fights to Rani Yahya by submission and Urijah Faber by decision in his last outing at UFC 128.

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Wineland is an experienced and aggressive wrestle-boxer with a highly resilient clinch game.

He definitely has the more polished boxing technique -- as his crisply delivered body shot KO of Will Campuzano shows -- and, while Benavidez is probably the better wrestler, Wineland is a stubborn bull to take down.

Urijah Faber came out with the intention of taking Wineland down early, but his strong base, cat-like balance and excellent use of the whizzer made the task quite a challenge.

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At 5'4", Benavidez is fairly short, which will have advantages and disadvantages. In the clinch, his squatty and powerful frame lends itself to takedowns, especially with underhooks or the body lock.

Standing, his primitive charge while winging helicopter hooks is only effective at close range, and Wineland's straighter and longer punches make it tough to get inside when fused with technical footwork.

Benavidez excels with snaring "gimme subs" from the top, usually flowered by his vicious strikes. His sweet spot against Wineland will be surrounding himself with heavy leather while maneuvering into clinch range to work takedowns, looking to inflict massive damage with ground-and-pound and pressure with choke attempts.

Keys to Victory for Wineland

  • Avoid the bullrush -- Benavidez's striking is merely a smokescreen to set up takedowns. It's basic, and maybe even a little sloppy, but it gets the job done if he connects. Wineland will have to employ circling to avoid contact and staunch takedown defense to break free if he's tied up.
  • Box the brawler -- Wineland has phenomenal hands and superior technique. It could be a long night for Benavidez if Wineland refuses to be cornered and clinched up. Benavidez unleashes an ungodly volley hoping to pounce when his opponent stands still and covers up, so Wineland will have to sting with long counter-shots while backpedaling, but never allowing himself to get pinned on the fence.

Keys to Victory for Benavidez

  • Get inside -- his physical stature makes him more dangerous the closer he is. His striking is deadly when he's in your face, and he alternates quickly to clinching and takedowns.
  • Get on top -- On top is where he's an offensive leviathan, and Wineland's guard is probably his weakest position.

The betting lines have stretched out for Benavidez in the last few days. I think Wineland will be a handful on the feet and in the clinch, but the style that Benavidez brings does offer the better chance of being invoked. I would not be surprised to see the crafty Wineland pull off the upset here with a fine-tuned sprawl and brawl, but Benavidez will likely get ahold of him and wear him down in later rounds.

My Prediction: Joseph Benavidez by decision

 

Herman_x_noke_medium Ed Herman (21-9) vs. Kyle Noke (19-4-1)

TUF alums meet in this grappling-based middleweight match up. Herman's fiery back and forth war with eventual show winner Kendall Grove was impressive enough to earn him a fight contract and make his second place finish more impressive than most.

I think Herman's five and four record after the show is more sturdy than it seems: one loss was to submission genie Demian Maia, another a competitive split-decision to gamer Alan Belcher, and he wrenched his knee horribly against Aaron Simpson and showed exemplary valiance in the defeat. The fourth was tapping to a Jason MacDonald triangle after the Grove fight.

I thought Noke was a lock for The Ultimate Fighter 11, but he wilted under the relentless takedowns of Kris McCray in the quarters. The Greg Jackson trained Aussie has solid kickboxing and a venomous grappling game, but will be up against the same type of stifling wrestling in Herman that he faltered with on the show.

Though a new face in the UFC, Noke has split fights with George Sotiropoulos before their Octagon days, holds a win over Brian Ebersole, and drew with Mack truck puncher Hector Lombard. Since his 2008 knockout loss to Scott Smith in EliteXC, Noke is on a five-fight hitch, with three of those coming under Zuffa's banner, all finishes: Josh Bryant by TKO, Rob Kimmons and Chris Camozzi by sub.

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A lot of the individual strengths for each fighter come with an equalizer.

Noke has the more diverse and technical kickboxing arsenal, but Herman's no-frills boxing is highly effective and more powerful. Herman is easily the better wrestler and top player, but has shown a slight weakness when faced with a high level and thorough BJJ acumen that Noke brings.

The betting lines have Noke edging Herman out, but I think I'll go against the grain.

I believe Herman can needle straight lefts from the southpaw stance to answer Noke's diverse striking, control the momentum with explosive double legs and rugged in-fightinhg, and shun submission attempts on the canvas.

Both fighters bear traits that have unhinged the other, but the tiny difference is that Noke has more to prove after the way McCray handled him, and Herman can shower brutal strikes from the top.

My Prediction: Ed Herman by decision

 

Volkmann_x_castillo_medium Jacob Volkmann (12-2) vs. Danny Castillo (11-3)

I'll lead by admitting that I'm completely torn on this match up.

As a three-time NCAA All American and Big Ten champion, few can match Volkmann's wrestling credentials.

After debuting in the UFC with consecutive welterweight losses to Paulo Thiago and Martin Kampmann, Volkmann dropped to lightweight and pegged three straight, all decisions: Ronys Torres (split), Paul Kelly (unanimous) and Antonio McKee (split).

Though it was not a dominant performance, Volkmann's solidified his grappling prowess in his recent entanglement with voracious wrestler Antonio McKee, who has tossed around  a few decent middle- and light-heavyweights in his day.

Danny "Last Call" Castillo is the second Team Alpha Male rep on the Facebook prelims and another WEC crossover. Before the promotion folded into the UFC, Castillo etched a respectable five wins and three losses. His defeats were delivered by the upper echelon in Donald Cerrone and Shane Roller by submission, and Anthony Pettis by TKO.

His biggest win was out-scrapping the dynamic Dustin Poirier, which remains as the only blemish "The Diamond" has experienced, and also upset Joe Stevenson by decision in his Octagon debut. Castillo has a wrestling background as well, but Volkmann was not shy in expressing his disapproval to Sherdog.com:

"He’s an NAIA [wrestler]. You know what NAIA is?" Volkmann asks. "It’s like a high school wrestler, so it’s like a college wrestler going against a high school wrestler."

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Volkmann has the more esteemed singular proficiency, but Castillo has a brawling style that's well tailored to MMA.

In the signature Team Alpha Male style, he storms forward with a incessant bombardment of strikes while interchanging level drops.

Volkmann's stand up is nothing special for the top level, but he's more methodical with straighter punches. Castillo is more volatile, but also more predictable, and Volkmann will likely be an immovable force as far as securing takedowns goes.

Castillo won't be able to put a lot of mustard on his punches for fear of getting caught off balance or wrapped up, so while the safe pick is Volkmann by way of smothering with intense control, Castillo is a wild card with a big heart.

I'm surprised to see that the betting lines range from even to nudging toward Castillo. He's the more diverse competitor but I don't think he can overcome Volkmann's one area of expertise. 

My Prediction: Jacob Volkmann by decision

 

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Karlos Vemola (8-1) vs. Ronny Markes (11-1)

Leland Roling continues to peg the up and coming stars as another entry from the BloodyElbow Scouting Report makes his debut in the big show.

Brazilian Ronny Markes from the Nova Uniao Kimura squad has been called upon to replace the injured Stephan Bonnar to face light-heavyweight Karlos Vemola.

Markes enters the bout fresh off a decision over Paulo Filho and holds a nicely balanced finishing ratio with five wins by TKO and four by submission.

Vemola has split results in his two Octagon performances, suffering his only loss to stifling wrestler Jon Madsen at heavyweight, but dropping to 205 and returning with a vengeful throttling of Seth Petruzelli. Vemola trains with the London Shootfighters team and the decision with Madsen was the only time he's ever been past the first round in his career.

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Vemola is basically a battering ram with a brush cut. The sequence to the left versus Petruzelli captures his style perfectly.

He buries his chin and blitzes forward behind a cascade of power punches until he can tie up and devour with takedowns.

Vemola has an equal amount of stoppages by submissions and strikes at four apiece, but every catch was a rear-naked choke propagated by his thunderous striking.

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Vemola goes ballistic with his ground-and-pound like a shrieking housewife mashing a spider on the counter top.

It's not the most elegant approach, but if MMA has taught us anything, it's that the end result is the only thing that matters.

There are quite a few unknowns surrounding this match up: just like Vemola has yet to face a sub-specialist like Markes, the level of competition that Vemola represents will be a vast increase from what Markes has tackled on the Brazilian fight circuit.

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To the left is Ronny Markes drubbing Paulo Filho with his equally malicious assault.

The marked difference is that Vemola unsheathes a series of left and right hands, where Markes pumps out a wide range of devastating techniques.

The other significant disparity is that Markes is slapping around a 5'8" former middleweight in Filho and Vemola is a 6'0" former heavyweight and muscle-bound baboon.

I'm going to stay safe and play the odds on this one, veering toward Vemola based on past level of competition.

This will turn out like two alpha lions being locked in a in a closet, so expect a fan-friendly mutual massacre.

My Prediction: Vemola by TKO

 

Cole Miller (17-5) vs. T.J. O'Brien (16-4)Miller_x_obrien_medium

 I won't claim to be intimately familiar with the UFC newcomers in the next two bouts.

O'Brien was the unfortunate KO victim of Marc Stevens in the opening eliminator round to make it into the TUF house.  He was finished by Paul Kelly at UFC 123 after the Brit tore into him with ground-and-pound.

Cole Miller is extremely experienced for age twenty-seven and still showing serious improvement. He's tightened up some holes in his gangly striking game -- as Ross Pearson discovered the hard way -- and has always wielded a top-notch Jiu-Jitsu game.

He's coming off a decision loss to Matt Wiman on January's Fight for the Troops 2 card. O'Brien (6'2") will offer the rare occasion of putting Miller (6'1") at a height disadvantage, but the ATT-honed product should have more weapons in more areas, and needs to win to keep from being swallowed by the hungry ranks at 155.

My Prediction: Cole Miller by submission

 

Caceres_x_hettes_medium Alex Caceres (5-3) vs. Jim Hettes (8-0)

"Bruce Leroy" gets a tough draw in Jim Hettes, who makes his UFC debut after submitting each of his eight opponents.

Hettes is a brute in the clinch due to his Judo and wrestling background, obviously has formidable submission skills, and is no slouch standing either.

Caceres showed promise with his creative striking and a lightning-fast triangle off his back, but I don't think he has the power on the feet nor the skill on the ground to avoid being submitted by Hettes.

My Prediction: Jim Hettes by submission

 

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Edwin Figueroa (7-1) vs. Jason Reinhardt (20-2)

Despite the outcome, Edwin Figueroa's stock shot up in his "Fight of the Night" loss to bantamweight whirlwind Michael McDonald at UFC Fight Night 24.

McDonald is a rising star who applies a medley of boxing, wrestling, and submission threats at a frenetic and tenacious pace. He usually steamrolls his opponents, but Figueroa, in a fight he accepted on short notice, proved to be a feisty challenge in his UFC debut.

Figueroa commented on the short-notice bout to UFC.com:

In my last fight, I didn't perform at all like I normally fight. I had an eight month layoff then took the fight with six days’ notice having a pulled groin, 26lbs cut, and against a heavily favored opponent. I came up short on the decision, won "Fight of The Night", sacrificed my first loss, but got to prove I belong in the UFC. Now I get a full camp and remind myself how a Saekson trained fighter really fights.

The defeat was the first of his career and the Muay Thai specialist from Team Saekson Janjira will look to showcase his skills and re-establish his rep against veteran Jason Reinhardt.

Reinhardt was a lightweight for most of his career until suffering his first loss to Joe Lauzon way back at UFC 78 in 2007. Reinhardt notched two more wins in '07 and '08 -- though his opponents currently have a combined record of two wins and sixteen losses -- before reappearing in the Octagon at featherweight and tapping to a Tiequan Zhang guillotine.

Reinhardt will plunge another weight class and make his bantamweight debut versus Figueroa. He holds seventeen wins via submission and is now training out of the Wand Fight Team's satellite school in Illinois. Reinhardt was a compact bundle of muscle in higher weight classes, so it's hard to imagine him packing into a bantamweight frame.

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Against McDonald, Figueroa rattled off the kind of top-notch Muay Thai you'd expect from a student of Saekson Janjira, but his composure on the ground to nullify McDonald's swarming top game was what impressed me.

Reinhardt's best weapons are his aggression, strength and capable BJJ skills, but in both of his career losses he faded when he was unable to overwhelm with his initial outburst.

Figueroa should be able to circle away from his aggressive charges and sting with counters while scrambling free of any trouble if he is taken down. He wields a level of Thai ferocity that can end the contest quickly, and I see him unleashing a flurry of strikes for a TKO within the first two rounds.

My Prediction: Edwin Figueroa by TKO

 

 

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I hope Alex Caceres gets chokes out so badly.

"I have reached an age when, if someone tells me to wear socks, I don't have to."- Albert Einstein

by Tim Bernier on Aug 11, 2011 4:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I kinda like Bruce Leroy

But he probably will.

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 11, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle Noke is going to crush Ed Herman

Big fan of his, more than any other TUFer.

I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.

by SSreporters on Aug 11, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I like him too, thought he'd win

Knowing the rules of MMA Math, doesn’t his poor showing vs. McCray concern you against a better wrestler in Herman?

That fight really threw me off. I thought Noke would toy with McCray.

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 11, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It totally threw me off

But Herman has been subbed before and he’s going to go to sleep.

I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.

by SSreporters on Aug 11, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Herman is a high level grappler

Going off what I’ve seen from both fighters I’d say while Noke has been active and on a tear Herman has the better overall skills. Should be a good fight.

"It is himself that a coward abandons first, after that all other betrayals come easily."

by doonerthesooner on Aug 11, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect it to go to the ground

But if Noke can protect Steve Irwin he’s a badass in my book.

Expect to see gator rolls.

I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.

by SSreporters on Aug 11, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing against Herman though

I’m probably going to regret this pick but there’s something about Noke that tells me he can be a good gatekeeper. Herman KOing Credeur quickly didn’t tell me much about how he fights post long layoff. All he did was KO a very mediocre fighter also coming off a long layoff.

I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.

by SSreporters on Aug 11, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Herman

is really under rated. That dude has all of the tools to be a serious beast if he can be a little more disciplined, which I think age and layoff may have provided.

I really think he is going to wreck Noke and I actually really like Kyle.

1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.

by Chris Barton on Aug 11, 2011 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Yah

Completely agree, except I don’t know if he’ll “wreck” Noke.

Kyle normally has an intricate guard and solid kickboxing, and there is something to be said for training at Jackson’s. But I don’t think Herman getting caught by MacDonald and Maia means he’s susceptible.

Hell, this whole card has really tough match ups to call.

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 11, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Herman getting caught by MacDonald and Maia means he’s susceptible

Exactly. J Mac has really under rated BJJ. His match with Maia was an instant classic and really showed off his game, imo. Those guys catching you doesn’t mean you have lacking BJJ.

Herman has punishing GnP and I think he’ll finish Kyle with it.

1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.

by Chris Barton on Aug 11, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong about the style of finish

but boy am I happy to be wrong about that. Demolition regardless!

1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.

by Chris Barton on Aug 15, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

how the fuck does Reinhardt keep getting fights in the UFC?

1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.

by Chris Barton on Aug 11, 2011 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

He busts more cans than a soup kitchen

and everyone knows it. It’s like a bad joke at this point.

1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.

by Chris Barton on Aug 11, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a joke even before his first UFC appearance where he was crushed by Lauzon . . .

By this point it has definitely become played out. I’m quite confident this is the last we’ll be seeing of him.

"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute

by TheGreg on Aug 13, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, is this the longest analysis ever?

As in … eva?

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 11, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes...

Yes it is. Longest…..Eva…..brah!
Sorry, i actually really liked it though, it kinda seemed like Judo Chop/Primer.
Twas good.

by Dfuzemma on Aug 12, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Sometimes when I reel off an encyclopedia like this, I wonder if I’m wasting my time by going too far.

Glad you liked it mane.

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Volkmann also had a "training incident" with Hector Lombard

I don’t know if he did (I’ve had my face buried in my keyboard), but Brookhouse said he might run a quick story on this.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Lightweight-Lightning-Rod-34619

"I was just rolling with the guys; we were getting ready for grappling practice, and Hector asked me to wrestle with him," Volkmann says. "He’s kind of big, but I wrestled and I know he didn’t wrestle. I didn’t know him at all. I know people said, ‘Just stay away from him when you’re on the feet.’ We did sparring the previous day, and people were, like, ‘Don’t go with that guy. Whatever you do, don’t go with that guy.’ I was, like, ‘Alright,’ but then the next day he asked me to wrestle with him.

"We were hand fighting for probably three minutes, and he karate chops me," he adds. "I go, ‘OK, I must be irritating him somehow.’ Thirty seconds later, he pushes me back and punches me in the face [with] no glove on; gave me a bloody nose and some stars. I was a little irritated, although more disappointed than anything. I kind of rolled my eyes and started walking away, and he tried to fight me right there. He lost it, lost a nerve, and somebody came in and stopped it."

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 11, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't shake the image

of the gargantuan Hector Lombard "karate chopping" Volkmann.

There are so many details I want to know about that. Are we talking a short, 3-inch ridge hand to the trachea, or a ginormous, swooping Eagle Beak intending to sever appendages?

Seriously … why the karate chop in that situation?

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 11, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously … why the karate chop in that situation?

Because… why not karate chop in every situation?

1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.

by Chris Barton on Aug 11, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

This explains so many visits

to the proctologist.

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 11, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Shit I can't remember his name

But that boxer (Mayorga?) was drinkin the Karate Chop Cool Aid too!

--When you saw only one set of footprints, it was Herb Dean who carried you.

by hardlyworking on Aug 12, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was Ricardo Mayorga vs. Din Thomas

At the Shine Fights press conference. That is one fight I really wanted to see too.

That’s where Don King showed up to court with a duffle bag stuffed with a cool million dollars in cash to get the injunction, and the whole event collapsed hours before it was set to start.

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 12, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reinhardt’s best weapons are his lame padded record and his scary looks

Ficed it for you

"The men who get on best with women are those that get on best without them" Lee Christmas

by StevenGiles on Aug 11, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

That fix will not

sufFiced.

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 11, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct

He isn’t that scary looking and as for the padding? Cheap polyester is what comes to mind.

by Dfuzemma on Aug 12, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The pleasure is mine

pornflake!

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 11, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see the combined records of every guy that lost to Reinhardt.

I saw his fight against Lauzon live almost 4 years ago. Dude came in undefeated, looked like a serious threat, and got submitted in under a minute. Same thing when he fought Zhang. He should be the first name that pops up when someone googles “padded record.”

"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye

by mburtoni on Aug 11, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone worked it out on here once before

and it was hilariously sad.

1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.

by Chris Barton on Aug 11, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give me a few minutes

And I’ll have it.

If there's one thing I know that will always be true it's Leonard Garcia via Split Decision

by YPG on Aug 11, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

61-96

He’s fought 1 person twice, that person has a record of 22-15. I counted him once.

His last 1 fights have been against opponents with a combined record of 2-16.

His 13th & 14th wins were against fighters making their pro debuts, he’s had 12 fights against people with 5 or less fights.

He’s beat a grand total of 3 people with winning records.

Best record he’s beat – 13-3

Worst record he’s beat – 1-4, 2-8, 2-11, 8-23, 0-5

I got all records from Sherdog & the record are the fighters current records. All records are only fighters he’s beaten.

If there's one thing I know that will always be true it's Leonard Garcia via Split Decision

by YPG on Aug 11, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy he fought twice has a 8-23 record*

And I’m working out the records of his opponents when he faced them.

Yes I’m bored.

If there's one thing I know that will always be true it's Leonard Garcia via Split Decision

by YPG on Aug 11, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

9 of his fights have been against people making their debuts

Only 2 people had winning records when they faced him.

12 of his 20 wins have been against people that had 3 or less fights at the time.

To re-iterate, yes I’m extremely bored.

If there's one thing I know that will always be true it's Leonard Garcia via Split Decision

by YPG on Aug 11, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I applaud dedicating that type of extreme time

toward a cause that may be considered questionable. :)

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 12, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

As I said

Everything I used was from Sherdog. It’s up to people to decide for themselves whether or not Sherdog is a reliable source.

If there's one thing I know that will always be true it's Leonard Garcia via Split Decision

by YPG on Aug 12, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great work

thanks!

1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.

by Chris Barton on Aug 12, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I won't be home during the facebook prelims but

I seen someone saying something about being able to rewind them . So if I leave my Comp. on the stream while I’m gone would I be able to rewind it and watch it when I get a home about a half hour after they end? It would be much appreciated if anyone knows. I got the DVR set up for the versus card so I’m good there!

" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama

by 40 Cal. on Aug 11, 2011 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sure

But I don’t think so. I’ve watched every FB stream and haven’t noticed a way to rewind. I could be wrong though.

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 12, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

When ever I see Vemola I think of this guy

Dudes, we party too hard so now our bodies are in terrible shape. So we gotta trick the doctor by making it seem like we're in really good shape! .. and there's only one way to do that.... bleach... here drink this Murderface.

by Earltron on Aug 11, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Awesome post

One little fact fix though: Cole Miller’s 27, not 22. TJ O’Brien is actually younger at 24.

by Hummus5989 on Aug 11, 2011 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Who cares…? Try this instead : =*~ ~

by Chris Lowe on Aug 12, 2011 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is from the article
Cole Miller is extremely experienced for age twenty-seven and still showing serious improvement.

So point out if I’m missing something.

And I encourage comments like that, so keep them coming. It’s not uncommon for readers to notice some factual errors that require correction.

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Benavidez via dec. does seem the likely outcome but I was kind of surprised to see no love for Wineland on the poll, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him pull the upset. It’s so awesome to get to see all of the prelims now…

No sir, I don't like it.

by OmoPlata on Aug 12, 2011 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

The betting lines were a lot closer earlier this week

But now it’s all Benavidez. I almost called Wineland for the upset there. Benavidez has better takedowns than Urijah, but he doesn’t have better striking, and that’s what facilitated Faber’s TDs on Wineland.

"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche

by Dallas Winston on Aug 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

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