No Russians in UFC in Five Years?
It may be hard to believe, but there doesn't seem to have been a fighter signed from Russia since Ansar Chalangov's brief UFC stint in 2005-2006, when he fought Thiago Alves and Josh Koscheck, losing to both.
There is one exception, since Dennis Siver was born and grew up in Russia, but his career began in Germany and he's never competed in Russia or represented any Russian club. And before anyone mentions them... Andrei Arlovski and Vladimir Matyushenko are both from Belarus.
How come UFC is so cold to Russia? In previous years, one could argue that the talent wasn't there for them to sign perhaps, but it's not the case now. With M-1 and some other Russian promotions now on state television, the ranks are booming with potential major league prospects. Some of the prominent names they should look into include:
FW: Rasul Mirzaev (5-0) - Knocked out former Sengoku Champion Masanori Kanehara
LW: Alexander Sarnavskiy (15-0) - Submitted UFC vet Doug Evans
WW: Shamil Zavurov (18-1) - Beat Sengoku GP runner-up Yasubey Enomoto
Andrey Koreshkov (6-0) - Only 20 years old and already crushing people
MW: Vyacheslav Vasilevsky (15-1) - Top MW in Europe, beat UFC vet Xavier Foupa-Pokam
Andrei Semenov (30-9-2) - Just beat Luigi Fioravanti pillar to post after a three year retirement
HW: Vitaly Minakov (5-0) - 3x Sambo World Champion, 240lbs
What do you think? Should UFC open up the ranks and let some Reds get In The Mix(TM)?
Videos of each fighter after the jump.
Rasul Mirzaev
Alexander Sarnavskiy
Shamil Zavurov
Andrey Koreshkov
Vyacheslav Vasilevsky
Andrei Semenov
Vitaly Minakov
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by Cory Braiterman on Aug 10, 2011 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
Once M-1 gets their grubby mits on em they're lost forever.
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I don’t know if I buy that.
Zuffa has been willing to sign lesser guys from M-1 (Linhares, Audinwood). It’s just the big ticket guys that they had problems with.
by Steve4192 on Aug 11, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's hard to tell with Russian based fighters
Obviously Snowden is really high on the prospects coming out of M-1, but I’m not entirely sold on the level of competition. The fights are just too wild, often with sloppy kickboxing and then wild ground fighting. It’s great to watch, but I’m not entirely sure how well it will translate. Just look at how Magahlaes has been able to dominate.
Mairbek Taisumov is still considered a pretty strong prospect, but he recently lost to Artiom Damkovsky in a fight where Taisumov sloppily beat on him with no power for two and a half rounds, got tired and then lost on cuts. Damkovsky went on to get absolutely smashed by Bellator washout Jose Figueroa in his next fight.
This doesn’t necessarily mean guys like Zavurov won’t make it, but it makes me suspicious.
Plus, I just don’t see how Semenov can be relied on until he takes a few more fights.
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by Neil Manich on Aug 10, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I'm reccing though
Because it does seem like that sphere is getting ignored.
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by Neil Manich on Aug 10, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you can separate the Russian/East Euro talent into three general groups:
A) Traditional undersized Russian fighters who are competent in their chosen discipline (usually Sambo) but lack a modern outlooking on training and will spend their whole career in M-1, .e.g. Damkovsky, Magomed Sultanakhmedov
B) Talented, but unproven fighters with good records that haven’t really developed a well rounded defensive game necessary to win consistently at a high level, e.g. Taisumov, Guram Gugenishvili, Magomed Shikshabekov
C) Legitimate prospects with good size for their weight division and skillsets that enable them to rapidly pick up wins over good foreign opposition, e.g. Sarnavskiy, Vasilevsky, Zavurov
Obviously it’s Group C that I’m hoping UFC gives a look. If you’ve been watching any of those three I mentioned, you know they’re all adept at defending takedowns and working their preferred game (standup usually) to win rounds and finish fights.
by smoogy2 on Aug 10, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are any of the © guys also primarily Sambo practitioners?
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 10, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey now
I found out how to make the copyright sign (which, really, is what should follow In The Mix). I meant C).
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 10, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Vasilevsky is from Team Sambo-70 along with Minakov, but he is mostly a kickboxer who prefers to use his hands.
Sarnavskiy, Zavurov and Koreshkov are all from RusFighters Sport Club, home of Alexander Shlemenko. Not sure of their specific martial arts upbringings, but all of them possess well-rounded, dare-I-say-“Americanized” fighting styles. Zavurov in particular is virtually never on his back and usually spends much of the fight sitting on people and punching them in the head.
virtually never on his back and usually spends much of the fight sitting on people and punching them in the head.
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by Derek Suboticki on Aug 11, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hate to get technical on you, but
I would have said the ® sign was more appropriate for In the Mix®. It’s more of a trademark.
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Stylin' in my Speedos® and darin' you to stare.
by Scabby Knuckle on Aug 10, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Or, maybe In the Mix™ would have been more appropriate
if the trademark wasn’t registered….
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by Scabby Knuckle on Aug 10, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
How'd you do that?
c) ©
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Ok now I see
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I partly ascribe to the theory that Vinny has gotten better, improving his all-around game and not just relying on his BJJ. To prove it, he will have to be tested in the future by a known commodity of course.
I think the Eagle – I always get Megomed Sultanakhmedov and Megomed Shikshabekov confused – has a lot of potential if he drops to LW. And I’m big on Vasilevsky as well. But I too have questions about how they’d do under the American system of wrestling first and cages. Still, if Russia ever takes a liking to MMA, I firmly believe we’ll have another Brazil in terms of a fighter market.
Magomed Shikshabekov pretty much finished his MMA career.
He has 3 kids and better things to do than making $1,000 – $3,000 every 3-4 months.
by valetudo.ru on Aug 12, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
my internet is acting up
so only able to watch Rasul Mirzaev’s vid, but he kinda sums it up. Nice offensive skills with his hands and throws, but twice he almost had the full mount with a dazed opponent and stands up.
The gap between Russian MMA and big time Western MMA is in technical grappling. Russian prospect who show A) top control and B) some sort of game from off their back, I think can be taken as the real deal.
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yeah watching it again
the second time was a scramble, maybe he could have kept mount but things were happening fast
the first time around 3:50 (fight clock) he really had a chance for mount or at least a very strong top half guard position. He was just using any sort of heavy hips or putting any kind of pressure.
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It’s worth watching the Zavurov vs. Gallicchio fight, or at least the ending, just to see Fedor absolutely no-sell it while people around him cheer enthusiastically
by smoogy2 on Aug 11, 2011 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
but he's trained out of the US for his entire career.
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by Nate Wilcox on Aug 11, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
He defected when he was in his 20's
That’s pretty damn Soviet (although he clearly wasn’t a big fan)
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by Chris Barton on Aug 11, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
He's the Manchurian Candidate of the UFC
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by Anthony Pace on Aug 11, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay sure
but Soviet Belarus is Russian in every practical sense. Frankly, most Russians I know consider Belarus Russia anyway (albeit backwards).
Trained MMA was US. Trained Wrestling is Soviet/Russian and that’s his base so it’s a little gray there too.
Not that smoogy doesn’t have a great point regardless, but Vlad M. isn’t black and white.
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by Chris Barton on Aug 11, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Is it not something to do with them fighting in M1 Challenge? They sign with M1 and just fight in their events, perhaps none of them have any real desire to sign with the UFC? Seems pretty unlikely that the UFC would ask M1 if they can sign any of their righters
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The majority of the guys you mention have north caucasian ethnicity and it has already been proven that getting visas from them is a problem. Unless a Russian of outstanding talent emerges I don’t think they’re worth the hassle, though I believe that Vasilevsky, Zavurov and probably Sarnavskiy wouldn’t go winless in the octagon.
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by greco-roman airlines on Aug 11, 2011 8:49 AM EDT reply actions
Sarnavskiy and Vasilevsky have legitimate potential, and I do think Koreshkov is going to be a monster eventually. Zavurov, not so much.
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by Leland Roling on Aug 11, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
none of these guys are Reds smoogy
Red = communist
it’s a political designation, not an ethnic or geographic one.
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But everyone in that region is communist!
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by The American Ronin on Aug 12, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Henceforth smoogy shall be “a Bloody Elbow reader”…
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by The American Ronin on Aug 12, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Zavurov is the only one of those guys I’ve heard of, and in my opinion he would be lower tier in the UFC’s WW division at this point. He’s also under contract to M-1 where he’s their WW Champion, so he’s not going anywhere right now.
Shamil Abdurahimov at least on paper is one of the best prospects at HW and I believe is a free agent. He’s 12-1 and has wins over Jeff Monson and Sokoudjou. He’s someone I think Zuffa should definitely try and sign.
I don’t really know what to say about the rest since I’m unfamiliar with them, but there’s no way Vyacheslav Vasilevsky is the best MW in Europe if Mamed Khalidov is still based in KSW (which I believe he is), and I really hope Xavier Foupa-Pokam isn’t his best win when Foupa-Pokam has lost 7 of his last 8 fights.
Some of these guys would be in UFC today, if it wasn’t for exclusive contract with M-1. I know at least two guys who got offers from Zuffa LLC already, but they are currently on the contract. You just have to wait a little.
Sarnavsky is showing a great potential, this guy can become really big.
Zavurov is next in line, its interesting how someone said he has “Americanized” style of fighting ;) Its very true, since his favorite fighter is GSP, he admires him A LOT.
Koreshkov is too young to tell. He is very hard working and passionate guy, its just impossible to tell if he will remain so dedicated, since he is only 20.
How is Putin’s Army working out, and why can’t some enterprising college hottie start something like that here in the U.S.?!?
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by The American Ronin on Aug 12, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
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