USAT/SBN July 2011 MMA Consensus Rankings: Light Heavyweight

by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2011 11:43 AM EDT in MMA Rankings

Rank	Fighter	%	Promotion	Last Rank
1	Jon Jones	100	UFC	1
2	Mauricio Rua	93	UFC	2
3	Quinton Jackson	88	UFC	3
3	Rashad Evans	88	UFC	4
5	Lyoto Machida	85	UFC	5
6	Forrest Griffin	79	UFC	6
7	Dan Henderson	72	Strikeforce	8
8	Phil Davis	67	UFC	9
9	Thiago Silva	44	UFC	10
9	Rafael Cavalcante	44	Strikeforce	13
11	Gegard Mousasi	42	Strikeforce	12
12	Antonio Rogerio Nogueira	39	UFC	11
13	Rich Franklin	38	UFC	13
14	Tito Ortiz	38	UFC	NR
15	Ryan Bader	34	UFC	7
16	Muhammed Lawal	33	Strikeforce	15
17	Matt Hamill	31	UFC	16
18	Alexander Gustafsson	20	UFC	17
19	Renato Sobral	20	Strikeforce	18
20	Vladimir Matyushenko	17	UFC	19
21	Cyrille Diabate	15	UFC	20
21	Roger Gracie	15	Strikeforce	21
23	Randy Couture	14	UFC	21
24	Luiz Cane	14	UFC	23
25	Keith Jardine	12	Strikeforce	24

#1 Jon Jones will attempt his first title defense at UFC 135 against #3 Quinton "Rampage" Jackson.

Coming off a long layoff #3 Rashad Evans will rematch #14 Tito Ortiz who's coming off a huge upset win over #15 Ryan Bader. UFC 133 will also feature #17 Matt Hamill vs. #18 Alexander Gustafsson in a bout that represents a big opportunity for Gustafsson to move toward contender status.

In a rematch of their UFC 76 bout, #2 Mauricio Rua and #6 Forrest Griffin will meet again at UFC 134.

#7 Dan Henderson will jump weight classes yet again this Saturday as he takes on heavyweight legend Fedor Emelianenko at Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson.

Based on the premise that all MMA rankings are subjective but that it’s still useful and informative to know who the online MMA community as a whole ranks as the best fighters in MMA, we collect and average the rankings of the top MMA websites to produce our consensus rankings. We compile the top MMA rankings from each of our sources and award 25 points for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. This formula ensures that each ranking site awards the same number of total points regardless of how many fighters they choose to rank. Each fighter’s total is divided by the number of possible points to determine their standing in the Consensus Rankings.

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ah the meteoric plummet of ryan bader

you were so close to the sun, and have now fallen the way of icarus.

I wonder where he lands?

Also rofl at anyone who has Bader ranked ahead of Tito. I’ve bagged on Tito as much as the next guy, but you gotta at least give him credit for a first round win.

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by Cory Braiterman on Jul 28, 2011 10:48 PM EDT reply actions

Why?

Also rofl at anyone who has Bader ranked ahead of Tito

That was Tito’s first win in six fights since 2006, and the two before that were Shammy. Bader’s only losses are to the outright #1 and Ortiz. I will never subscribe to the leap-frog style rankings. There are quite a few people ranked above people who have beaten them.

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by Dallas Winston on Jul 29, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions

Iole's rankings always make me fume.

Rogerio Nogueira is apparently not a top 25 fighter. Stephan Bonnar, K-Sos, Babalu, and OSP sure deserve to be ahead of him, right Kev! Not only them, but Kyle Kingsbury, Fabio Maldanado, and Lorenz fucking Larkin are all clearly deserving of a higher ranking than Lil Nog.

Let that set in for a bit. Kingsbury, Maldanado, and Lorenz Larkin… all above Lil Nog according to Iole.

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by pdl on Jul 29, 2011 12:52 AM EDT reply actions

Mousasi's ranking is still laughable.

How the fuck can he be there when Bader drops like a stone after losing to Tito? Bader is better than oh, anyone at 205lbs that Mousasi has beaten. And yet Tito doesn’t break the top ten? Looking at that table it seems like the ludicrous high ranking for non-UFC guys (basically based on MMA Math around Mousasi, who was overrated due to his JAPAN!~! background) is still alive and kicking somehow.

by Newman24 on Jul 29, 2011 3:40 AM EDT reply actions

we all must remember these rankings are just opinions they will never be facts,im pretty sure if all of us did our top 25 none of them would match

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by letter19 on Jul 29, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions

Nothing much to gripe about the overall rankings

by KOQ24 on Jul 29, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions

True, but I have had some people here use these rankings to try and back up their claims/opinions nonetheless as if they were facts.

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by chrisbboy82 on Jul 29, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions

unfortunate right?

i had a guy tell me overeem had beat top ten competiton cause he beat #8 in the world at the time brett rogers..silly

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by letter19 on Jul 29, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Brett Rogers was top ten and deserved to be. You can’t use hindsight to revise history.

If heavyweight isn't the toughest division in the UFC, then why doesn't someone that can kick their asses move to it? They don’t even have to cut weight!!

by crizzy on Jul 29, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I think that says more about how shallow HW is than anything.

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by Zachary Kater on Jul 29, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions

i dont disagree with that^

but thats my point about these rankings what purpose do they serve?

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by letter19 on Jul 29, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Gives people something to argue about.

That’s pretty much it.

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by Zachary Kater on Jul 29, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions

You're ignoring the most important purpose they serve.

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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I would assume you mean their main purpose is for matchmaking, but if they were really used that way, GSP would be kicking Fitch’s ass once a year. Not to mention Strikeforce, and their “fun fights” motto..

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by Zachary Kater on Jul 29, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions

You'd assume incorrectly.

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by Richard Wade on Jul 30, 2011 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions

rankings are opinion based

i never let any publication tell me who the elite fighters are, rogers first 5 fights were in small shows his next 4 were low level talent in elitexc and strikeforce his 10th fight he finally got a fighter with name recognition in arlovski who he knocked out (another hyped up fighter) to me that doesn’t qualify him to be top 10 and when he did face good fighters he lost

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by letter19 on Jul 29, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions

A had a guy tell me that fighters in Bellator are lower-level fighters because they are not in these rankings.

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by chrisbboy82 on Jul 29, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

it all comes down to perspective..i never try to pass off my view as being fact but alot of people do

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by letter19 on Jul 29, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions

lol at Mousaii at 11

by dbcb on Jul 29, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions

Griffin is ranked really high.

Wow, I guess people really love Phil Davis’ hype.

For some odd reason when I read the ranking list I read from left-to-right.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 29, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions

forrest deserves to be at #6

i don’t know if you’ve noticed, but all top 6 LHW’s are or have been UFC champions (it doesn’t have anything to do with Forrest deserving to be #6, but i just thought it was a fun fact)

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Dude. You're fun facts are blowing my mind.

the Top 6 have been former/current UFC champions. The Top 7 have been former champions. Then you have…Phil Davis. Talk about trial by fire! Holy shit! ITS A SHARK TANK.

by Body Triangle on Jul 29, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Ok wow..by a preliminary count...

Out of the top 25, 13 have been champions before (counting Franklin, even though, to my knowledge, he was never the LHW champ of any org.

by Body Triangle on Jul 29, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions

i count 14

UFC Champions
- Jon Jones
- Shogun Rua
- Lyoto Machida
- Rashad Evans
- Forrest Griffin
- Rampage Jackson
- Tito Ortiz
- Randy Couture
- Rich Franklin(at MW)

PRIDE champions
- Dan Henderson

Strikeforce Champions
- Dan Henderson
- Rafael Feijao
- King Mo
- Gegard Mousasi
- Babalu Sobral

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

the SF LHW title has been tossed in a violent game of Hot Potato.

What does that title really mean?

Yes, the same can be said for the UFC LHW title.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 29, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions

it means absolutely nothing

by dbcb on Jul 29, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions

awesome

Yeah, forgot about babalu

by Body Triangle on Jul 29, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions

How low can you really put Forrest though?

He beat Shogun,Jackson,Franklin&Tito.
Only lost to Evans&Silva within the last 4 years.

by KOQ24 on Jul 29, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Damn, when you put it like that . . . WOW.
I tend to forget how big Griffin truly is for a LHW and to think, he lost his belt to a guy that fought at heavyweight and many people think should drop MW. WOW.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 29, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Cool fact . . with that said,
damn Chael Sonnen was right. The LHW division sucks. Does anyone the mental ~~intestinal~~ fortitude to hold on to the belt for a couple of defenses.

This is all tongue-in-cheek (or however the expression goes) but damn, the last guy to really defend his belt was Rampage when he defeated Dangerous Dan (who’s not a 185lbs. fighter Mr. Dana White – he fought at heavyweight several times). Yeah Machida “defeated” Shogun during the first match but we know that can not be “true” because his training partner Anderson Silva said he felt Machida won all 5 rounds.

Anyway, can Jon Jones defend his title twice? Well we know everybody thinks he’s unbeatable with Master Yoda-san game-planning his every move and he does train with GSP but let’s see what happens in the next couple of months.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 29, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

i like the last part...

How people think jones is so unstopable when will fans learn how this sport works

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by letter19 on Jul 29, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

It’s crazy how Tito Fucking Ortiz has the most lhw title defenses in the UFC!

Ortiz – 5
Chuck – 4
Rampage – 1
Machida – 1

If Bones or whoever else can manage to get 6 title defenses in that division they’ll instantly be in the record books and that standing would hold some serious water for some time.

Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!

by SentientAndroid on Jul 29, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Lhw division was really weak when tito and chuck reigned over it but now it is a absolute shark tank

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by letter19 on Jul 29, 2011 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

yeah but when you’re champion is the karate guy . . .
yeah but when you’re former LHW champion gets humiliated by the reigning MW champion . . .
I can’t find a good joke about Evans, Shogun or Rampage but I’m sure some one really clever can pick up the slack

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 29, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Your.

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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions

thx

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 29, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

You're (see what I did there?) welcome.

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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

don't forget:

Frank Shamrock – 4

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions

You have to forget Shamrock

Well, that’s what Dana White wants you to do.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 29, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Damn

it worked. I’ve NEVER even acknowledged Shamrock, like at all! I think it’s due to the fact that I got into mma/ufc during Chuck’s reign and never really saw Frank fight before. Well, except for his fights against Tito and Franklin and they were all utter destruction losses, hmm…how convenient, or ironic maybe?

Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!

by SentientAndroid on Jul 29, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions

if the LHW division sucks so much, why is chael 0-3 against LHW's?

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

my observations

- what caused Feijao, to move up the rankings so much? He hasn’t done anything since losing do Dan Henderson, but he moved infront of Mousasi, and lil nog

- i don’t disagree with Tito, or Bader’s ranking, but i just think that Hamil should at least be ahead of Tito seeing as how he clearly dominated him in their fight

- i know it was explained to me by Kid Nate, but i still disagree with Randy being ranked

- also why the hell is Keith Jardine still in the top 25? He has acomplished absolutely nothing since barely beating Chuck in September of mo fucking 2007 His record since then you ask? 3-6-1 (should be 3-7) with his wins being against top notch competition like Aaron Lofton, Francisco France, and a split decison win over Brandon Vera. Jardine is one of the most overrated fighters of all time, the only things he ever acoplished really was TKOing Forrest, and barely beating an out of shape Chuck

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions

Totally agree on all points:

the Feijao ranking is a freaking bloody outrage. I think it is time to protest. I like him and all that, but Mousasi is a better fighter in my opinion.
Tito won his first fight in YEARS, and he’s ranked higher than Hamill. HUHHH?!?
Randy’s ranking always made sense to me. Yawn. Oh yeah, he was on a tear prior to getting defeated by Machida. Who did he beat Toney, Coleman and eeked a decision over Brandon Vera. That’s the truth, pun intended.
Keith Jardine does have EXCITING performances but I don’ t know if he deserves a TOP 25 ranking. I guess fighting in the UFC will do wonders for your name.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 29, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions

jardine is on there for drawing mousaii I do believe

by dbcb on Jul 29, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions

a huge robery in my opinion, even with the point taken away, Mousasi still handily beat Jardine to a pulp

Jardine is in the same category as Leonard Garcia, swings a lot, impresses the judges, and gets many undeserved decisions to go his way.

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Feijao’s ranking comes from his domination of King Mo (who Mousasi lost to)

by KOQ24 on Jul 29, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions

i get why Feijao is ranked, i just don't understand why he moved up from last month, when he didn't do anything to change his ranking

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Ah the Lyoto, Rashad, and Rampage triangle! Lyoto>Rashad>Rampage>Lyoto, the top 5 at lhw is tricky. Has there ever been another triangle besides this current one and the Maia>Chael>Marquardt>Maia one?

Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!

by SentientAndroid on Jul 29, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions

I prefer the Maia-Sonnen-Marquardt triangle because . . .

Maia dominated Sonnen and left no question who was the better fighter.
Marquardt did the same to Maia.
and Sonnen had his way with Marquardt en route to a regular decision victory because he doesn’t care about finishing fights, Sonnen wants his full 15 minutes of fame.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 29, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions

If Tito beat Evans does that put him at #5?

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by rask4p on Jul 29, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions

at put him at #6, bump rashad down to #7, and bump up Lyoto and Forrest to #4 and #5 seeing as how they both recently beat Tito

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions

arrg not "at" but "i'd"

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions

i did the same thing for the HW rankings, so here goes Here are the top 20 fighters, and their record against ranked opponents(i'm really bored at work right now)

1. Jon Jones (5-1)
       • W – Stephan Bonnar(28), Brandon Vera(26), Vladimir Matyushenko(20), Ryan Bader(15), Shogun Rua(2)
       • L – Matt Hamil(17)
2. Mauricio Rua (4-4)
       • W- Quinton Jackson(3), Antonio Rogerio Nogueria(12), Cyrille DIabate(21), Lyoto Machida(5)
       • L – Renato Sobral (19), Forrest Griffin(6), Lyoto Machida(5), Jon Jones(1)
3. Quinton Jackson (4-3)
       • W – Dan Henderson(7), Keith Jardine(25), Lyoto Machida(5), Matt Hamil(17)
       • L – Mauricio Rua(2), Forrest Griffin(6), Rashad Evans(4)
4. Rashad Evans (4-1)
       • W – Stephan Bonnar(28), Forrest Griffin(6), Thiago Silva(9), Rampage Jackson(3)
       • L – Lyoto Machida(5)
5. Lyoto Machida (7-2)
       • W – Stephan Bonnar(28), Rich Franklin(13), Tito Ortiz(14), Thiago Silva(9), Rashad Evans(4), Shogun Rua(2), Randy Couture(23)
       • L – Shogun Rua(2), Rampage Jackson(3)
6. Forrest Griffin (6-4)
       • W- Stephan Bonnar(28), Stephan Bonnar(28), Shogun Rua(2), Rampage Jackson(3), Tito Ortiz(14), Rich Franklin(13)
       • L – Tito Ortiz(14), Keith Jardine(25), Rashad Evans(4), Anderson Silva(27)
7. Dan Henderson (4-3)
       • W – Renato Sobral(19), Rich Franklin(13), Renato Sobral(19), Rafael Cavalcante(10)
       • L – Antonio Rogerio Nogeira(12), Rampage Jackson(3), Anderson Silva(27)
8. Phil Davis (2-0)
       • W – Alexander Gustafsson(18), Antonio Rogerio Nogueira(12)
9. Thiago Silva (1-2)
       • W – Keith Jardine(25)
       • L – Lyoto Machida(5), Rashad Evans(4)
10. Rafael Cavalcante (1-2)
       • W – King Mo(16)
       • L – Mike Kyle(38), Dan Henderson(7)
11. Gegard Mousasi (2-1)
       • W – Renato Sobral(19), Keith Jardine(25)*
       • L – King Mo(16)
12. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (4-4)
       • W – Dan Henderson(7), Vladimir Matyushenko(20), Luiz Cane(24), Jason Brilz(30)
       • L – Vladimir Matyushenko(20), Shogun Rua(2), Ryan Bader(15), Phil Davis(8)
13. Rich Franklin (1-5)
       • W – Matt Hamil(17)
       • L – Lyoto Machida(5), Anderson Silva(27), Anderson Silva(27), Dan Henderson(7), Forrest Griffin(6)
14. Tito Oritz (3-4)
       • W – Vladimir Matyushenko(20), Forrest Griffin(6), Ryan Bader(15)
       • L – Randy Couture(23), Lyoto Machida(5), Forrest Griffin(6), Matt Hamil(17)
15. Ryan Bader (2-2)
       • W – Keith Jardine(25), Lil Nog(12)
       • L – Jon Jones(1), Tito Ortiz(14)
16. King Mo (1-1)
       • W- Gegard Mousasi(11)
       • L – Rafael Cavalcante(10)
17. Matt Hamil (3-2)
       • W – Jon Jones(1), Keith Jardine(25), Tito Ortiz(14)
       • L – Rich Franklin(13), Rampage Jackson(3)
18. Alexander Gustafsson (1-1)
• W – Cyrille Diabate(21)
       • L – Phil Davis(8)
19. Renato Sobral (2-3)
       • W- Shogun Rua(2), Cyrille Diabate(21)
       • L – Dan Henderson(7), Gegard Mousasi(11), Dan Henderson(7)
20. Vladimir Matyushenko (2-3)
       • W – Lil Nog(12), Jason Brilz(30)
       • L – Tito Ortiz(14), Lil Nog(12), Jon Jones(1)

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions

thanks for putting that out there man

Makes our jobs easier

by Body Triangle on Jul 29, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Why do people have Problems with Mousasi at #11, but no one says anything about Thiago Silva.
The guy has done even less and is at #9

by KOQ24 on Jul 29, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions

also when ranking Mousasi(who i have at #9) you have to take into account his record at MW

he has wins over Jacare, Hector Lombard, Melvin Manhoef, etc

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Why is Rampage ranked above Rashad? Not nitpicking, just wondering what causes that opinion. Is it that Rashad got violently KOed by Machida, and Rampage squeaked past him? Or because Rashad hasn’t competed in so long?

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by Zachary Kater on Jul 29, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions

Both

by the Cobras on Jul 29, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Also...

Why does Rashad only have 4 points from MMA Ratings? They’re saying he’s not a top 10 LHW? But Rich Franklin is? Wtf?

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by Zachary Kater on Jul 29, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions

most likely because rampage has had two wins since fighting rashad and rashad hasnt fought since

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by letter19 on Jul 29, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah it would make sense. I’m more astounded now by the fact that MMA Ratings didn’t rank Evans in the top 10 at all. But these are the same people that apparently put Charlie Brenneman at #4 of the WW rankings…

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by Zachary Kater on Jul 29, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions

i would assume that they don't rank fighters that haven't fought in over a year

by darkotto23 on Jul 29, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions

I cant seem to wrap my mind around Rashad being ranked with Rampage. Unless its due to Rashads inactivity. Also I think all of Griffins achievements are Just forgotten. Stops Rua, pummels Rampage, losses to Evans and the greatest fighter of all time in Spider back to back and is completely dismissed again.

1. Jones, 2. Evans, 3. Griffin, 4. Rua, 5. Rampage, 6. Machida, 7. T. Silva, 8. Hendo, 9. Davis, 10. Franklin

by Spider_Vemon on Jul 29, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions

Agree

Griffin’s accomplishments are criminally underrated.

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by MMAmadman on Jul 31, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions

by pummels you mean leg kicks?

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by letter19 on Jul 29, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions

Hey if you wanna sit there and hobble around on one leg because you cant be F***ed to learn how to check kicks then yes. Oh and saying “I got my asswhooped” after a fight usually sums things up.

by Spider_Vemon on Jul 29, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

i dont see it that way but ok

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by letter19 on Jul 29, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions

first thing, reply is a cool feature.
Second thing, if Thales leites decides to flop and butt scoot (like he did against Silva) for an entire fight and then gets kicked and punched in his legs cause he’s too incompetent to stand with a fighter and gets noticeably injured and losses the fight you dont see it as a bad thing?

by Spider_Vemon on Jul 29, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

The word you used was “pummel” watching the fight between forrest n rampage neither one was pummeled in that fight it was a five round back and forth that many people thought rampage won

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