Betting Lines in MMA for the Second Half of 2011
by Tim Burke on Jul 25, 2011 11:00 PM EDT
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Sure we're a little past the halfway point of the year, but the second half of 2011 is going to provide us a plethora of big fights, and a lot of them already have had their betting lines released. I thought it might be worth running down a few of the biggest ones. We'll start with Strikeforce this Saturday and wind our way all the down to UFC 139 in November. Remember that not every huge fight has had the line drop yet (ie. Jose Aldo vs. Kenny Florian).
All odds obtained from www.bmaker.ag
July
Fedor Emelianenko (-225) vs. Dan Henderson (+185), Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson
Marloes Coenen (-125) vs. Miesha Tate (-105), Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson
August
Rashad Evans (-420) vs. Tito Ortiz (+320), UFC 133
Chris Lytle (-125) vs. Dan Hardy (-105), UFC on Versus 5
Jim Miller (-150) vs. Ben Henderson (+120), UFC on Versus 5
Anderson Silva (-415) vs. Yushin Okami (+315), UFC 134
Mauricio Rua (-215) vs. Forrest Griffin (+175), UFC 134
September
Ronaldo Souza (-345) vs. Luke Rockhold (+275), Strikeforce: HWGP Semi-Finals
Josh Barnett (-255) vs. Sergei Kharitonov (+205), Strikeforce: HWGP Semi-Finals
Jon Jones (-435) vs. Quinton Jackson (+335), UFC 135
Diego Sanchez (-215) vs. Matt Hughes (+175), UFC 135
October
Frankie Edgar (-155) vs. Gray Maynard (+125), UFC 136
Chael Sonnen (-255) vs. Brian Stann (+205), UFC 136
Georges St. Pierre (-370) vs. Nick Diaz (+300), UFC 137
November
Cain Velasquez (-142) vs. Junior dos Santos (+112), UFC 139
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No Cormier line?
Dan
Diaz
Cain
Rampage
Barnett
Stann
Edgar
Tito (lool)
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by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ on Jul 25, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
Miller and lytle
Seem like the smartest bets
Drink.
Pee.
Repeat.
by DonnMcslick on Jul 25, 2011 11:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Disagree on Lytle.
He hasn’t got the wrestling or KO power. He might win but there are better bets.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 25, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He was resisting Johnson well at points he was just way outsized.
I would pick pretty much any UFC WW over Hardy these days, but Lytle isn’t a wrestler and he’s not a particularly amazing striker either so I don’t see his path to victory here beyond his vaunted boxing that’s never looked all that great. There are better bets to be made.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 25, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
it comes down to a very simple thing
if lytle gets him down he wins the fight, if he doesnt hardy has the advantage
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Yeah, Hardy/Lytle could go either way. I’d actually favor Hardy because he has more KO power.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
Hardy’s much bigger and stronger than Lytle, too.
by Patrick Wyman on Jul 26, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if you're being sarcastic
Hardy has knocked out ONE person since getting to the UFC.
I’m being serious. His shots look like they could KO people. Results aren’t everything. He’s bigger and stronger, I think that’s really what I meant.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
dan hardy will not be the guy to knock out chris lytle
i normally dont believe in absolutes in mma, but i’d just about bet everything i own on that fact
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"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
Hardy and Lytle have the most overrated punching power in the UFC today
Lytle especially. Kyle Bradley fighting Yves Lavigne represents Chris’ only KO/TKO win in the UFC.
Hardy looks like an imbecile on the ground. I can see Lytle’s jits being the difference.
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by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Best bets imo
Hendo
Tito (Evan’s has been out for forever now)
Griffin (He’s pulled it off before)
JDS (If his rotator cuff was 90% torn off, i’m pretty sure he won’t becoming in at 100%)
No BJ/Condit line yet?
Agreed.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 25, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I would bet the farm on Lytle being smart enough to rip one of Dan Hardy’s body parts off
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by Earl Montclair on Jul 25, 2011 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
Lytle will break him if he refuses to tap.
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by Earl Montclair on Jul 26, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Dan Hardy's first 3 career losses were all submissions.
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by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
As far as underdogs go
Maynard and Forrest are the most appealing. Rampage’s line is tempting as well, although I know that won’t go over well here. If it gets too ridiculous I might have to put some down on Page.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 25, 2011 11:29 PM EDT reply actions
I can’t believe Forrest is that big an underdog. I love Shogun, but this seems like a sucker line.
by Patrick Wyman on Jul 25, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno why Shogun should be such a favorite against Griffin.
Okami over Silva people. Bet the farm.
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Lose the farm.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 25, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly
I don’t think Okami wins that fight 25% of the time. He’d need to be +500 IMO for it to be a worthwhile bet.
by Patrick Wyman on Jul 25, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully all of you that think Okami and Sonnen are anything alike bet a ton
that way the line on Anderson will be more profitable.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 25, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Can’t wait to make money on Anderson. Okami has one way to win the fight — top control — and I doubt there’s a 25% chance of that happening, which means +300 is not a worthwhile bet.
by Patrick Wyman on Jul 25, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah people think because Okami and Sonnen are both described as “wrestlers” that their styles are the same; Okami is going to get takedowns and beat Silva up from his guard. In reality Okami is the type of wrestler Anderson Silva destroys.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
Excellent point
Sonnen’s advantages over Silva were his raw strength and constant pressure, not his wrestling skills per se. Even if the antidote to Anderson Silva were simply wrestling, Okami’s not Sonnen.
by Patrick Wyman on Jul 25, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Okami will probably lose all five rounds. He’ll do enough to keep Anderson from teeing off, but he’ll never be a threat.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
You’re probably right, Okami’s difficult to finish, but if anybody’s capable of doing so it’d be Anderson.
by Patrick Wyman on Jul 26, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Yushin Okami is the type of fighter who will put survival ahead of trying to win and that informs my prediction.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
I expect Okami to get the takedown, which should win him some rounds. The only way he doesn’t get any takedowns is if the two of them decide to moonwalk around the cage for 5 rounds, I really doubt Okami is stupid enough to play that game. If Okami wants to win, which I suspect he does, he will go for the takedown soon and not wait around for Silva to set up his Steven Seagal techniques.
He should get some takedowns. I don’t think he will win a single round. Fans only consider a guy’s last two fights, and you’re proof.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
Don’t be an ass bra. Hendo/Marquardt/Lutter go back ~10 fights.
If I put in a lot of weight his last fight, I would be like you Silva nuthuggers saying he’ll get the KO and be able to keep this standing because he was able to do it against Belfort. You’re proof fans only consider a guy’s last fight.
If I were to bet a -300 or worse favorite, I’d rather put my money on GSP or Jon Jones. These two have not shown any chinks in their armor lately. Whereas I see a clear path to victory for Okami via 5 rounds of grapplefucking, which he has proved is elite vs Marquardt and Munoz.
GSP never makes me feel like my money is in danger, Silva scares me since he gets taken down a lot and the Chael fight was extra scary.
by GorillaHobo on Jul 26, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP has shown a major chink in his armor
Eye pokes mess him up!
Marquardt and Munoz are about 15 levels below Anderson Silva.
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by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Indeed, eye pokes and testes smashing kicks and knees are the major chink in every fighters armor.
Perhaps, but I think Silva still got tooken down by Marquardt. Silva’s wrestling is not exactly elite.
by GorillaHobo on Jul 26, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
True but Marquardt still got knocked out
A lot of people take him down and in the end they end up napping or tapping.
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by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course. The question is whether Okami will get finished, but up until that point Okami could very possibly be winning the fight, I don’t see how this is a smart bet at -400.
by GorillaHobo on Jul 26, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
But try and break down the probabilities. Okami has exactly one reasonably possible path to victory, lay-and-pray (wall-and-stall is out because of Anderson’s strength and his clinch work). Silva has an excellent guard and has both submitted people off his back and struck with effectiveness. To avoid the ground strikes and submission attempts, Okami needs to stay pretty tight, without too much striking or trying to pass the guard; he also needs to worry about the ref standing them up.
That’s an extremely limited set of possibilities for Okami. On the other hand, Anderson could a) knock him out; b) submit him; c) win a decision either through keeping the fight on the feet or because of the effectiveness of his guard. I think Anderson can do that 8 times out of 10, so I’d feel pretty comfortable betting on him at -400.
by Patrick Wyman on Jul 26, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
He’ll need to follow the gameplan set up by Chael and I think he has the skills to do it and far far better submission D, Okami has never been submitted. Grinding a win is a very legit way to win, Betting against the better wrestler, especially when you know he’s going to use his wrasslin’ is just a bad idea.
Anderson’s going to have to KO him or rock him and submit him, I doubt Okami will get caught from top position, it’s probably as much a worry as Okami getting a lucky punch or submission. Okami has more than enough wrasslin’ so he doesn’t look like Maia or Leites. Anderson is getting older so he will likely get taken down just like Hendo/Marquardt/Sonnen were able to taken him down.
Hendo/Marquardt barely even use their wrassling to execute a 3/5 round grind on their opponents. They are more likely to bang. Okami has shown he has the discipline to grind it out the last few fights. The truth is Okami has a very similar skill set to Sonnens’, would you really want to take Silva at -400 against Sonnen? After that last fight? I bet Sonnen vs Silva would open up around -250 if that fight were to get scheduled.
Anderson should be the favorite, but I think it’s a very dangerous bet with little reward. I would sooner take GSP, at better odds against Diaz. GSP has the best wrestling in the game and BJJ defense to grind this out easily.
Personally I picked Sonnen to win their first fight. Against Okami, I would bet on Silva at these odds if I had to choose. I think Yushin Okami would gas out if he tried a strategy like Sonnen’s, because he usually fights at a much slower pace. If that happened he’d get killed, but he’s too cautious to do anything like that.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
Getting the takedown and gnp’ing? That should be the least likely way of Okami gassing before Silva.
Wrestlers are always gassing themselves out by implementing their top control game. Okami doesn’t have the same workrate in the Octagon as Chael Sonnen, they’re actually at opposite ends of that spectrum. His technique is comparable to Sonnen, but he is not the same level of athlete. When the two fought Sonnen was clearly superior.
"He's like Elvis in Korea! They love him there." - Mike Goldberg on Denis Kang
Marquardt has taken Silva down by catching a flying kick. Flying kick has nothing to do with wrestling, right? It’s not like Marquardt was shooting, Silva was defending, but just wasn’t good enough.
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by dancingChicken on Jul 26, 2011 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions
And you do want to get to a lower level for your takedowns.
by GorillaHobo on Jul 26, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Never bet before
What if I put $100 on rampage and he won. How much would I win?
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by Lanceinmypants on Jul 25, 2011 11:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If it’s – X amount, that’s the amount you have to bet to win $100.
If it’s + X amount, that’s the amount you win if you bet $100.
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by Zachary Kater on Jul 26, 2011 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Has there been a post on BE on "basics of betting?"
Or maybe a post about how they set opening lines?
I realize there’s not much to understand when you get a line where one fighter is +300 and the other is -250: one’s a clear favorite and the other’s an underdog.
It gets kind of strange, though, when you have a line like Marloes Coenen (-125) vs. Miesha Tate (-105), where betting on either is less than an even money proposition. In this fight, betting $100 gets you about $80 if Coenen wins or about $95 if Tate wins. Pretty sure I have the math right. (If this was a race and Coenen was a horse she’d be going off at 4:5; no joke implied here.)
So, even though Coenen is the favorite, the line feels kind of weird, almost as if they were co-favorites. The line could also be expressed as Marloes Coenen (-125) vs. Miesha Tate (+95), and it suddenly seems that Coenen is a clear favorite, even though it’s very nearly a pick ‘em fight. I have to wonder what the psychology is behind putting out a line like the one in this fight. Maybe I’m just not thinking straight today.
It gets even more interesting when you talk about prop bets like over/under on the number of rounds, parlays, etc., but I won’t even go there when I’m probably making a muddle of the basic line betting….
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by Scabby Knuckle on Jul 26, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i would love to read a post on how they set opening lines. I’m guessing it’s a secret for the most part but that would be quite an interesting read
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 26, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
In the grand scheme of things, a difference of 15% in payouts between two fighters is a very close fight. The line is put out like that to encourage equal betting on each side. Bookmakers don’t care who wins, they just want as close as possible to 50/50 betting. And the reason they’re both minuses is so the linemaker is guaranteed to make his 10-15% on the vig. You’ll never see a true Even/Even line, because the linemaker won’t make any money on equal betting. I’m not sure I’ve really answered your question, but it’s the best I can offer up right now.
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Thanks, Tim. Yeah, I get the part about the bookmaker trying to guarantee the vigorish on the different magnitude of the distance of the lines from the zero point. I just didn’t get why they’d put both fighters at minus a certain value rather than the more usual way of having the favorite at a minus and the underdog at a positive value. (Lytle vs. Hardy has the same “double negative” line.) I wonder why football is wedded to the point spread when so many other sports prefer the betting lines. I really should read a book about this or something….
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by Scabby Knuckle on Jul 26, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m liking that Page line. Also, surprised Diaz isn’t more of an underdog.
by memitim on Jul 25, 2011 11:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's tempting
Even though I know he has all of one way to win.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a hell of a way tho. Page just needs to time Jones’ sloppy stand up once and…We’ll see. This might be worth a bill or two.
by memitim on Jul 26, 2011 12:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes like Shogun was supposed to?
There’s no way Jones doesn’t just take Rampage down immediately like he did with Shogun. Or even worse, leg kick the shit out of him like Forrest did.
Machida is the only person who could time Jones’ stand-up.
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by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cain come into the fight as the underdog
He’s coming off a long layoff and a very serious injury while JDS looked excellent in his last fight.
Matt Hughes, JDS, Bendo, and possibly Forrest. That’s where I’d place my money…I wouldn’t put any money on Page cuz I’m pretty sure Jones is gonna work him, Forrest could definitely pull off the upset. I’m giving him a legit chance just cuz Shogun is so inconsistent.
Not even sure why Forrest is the underdog
he already beat Shogun pretty dominantly.
People use “not even sure” as a figure of speech too much. You know exactly why.
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shogun should be healthy for this one
still gonna be good to see, i think forrest can take it if he fights the way he did against franklin
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People have said that about Shogun his entire UFC career
He’s had 3 knee surgeries and came off a long lay off only to get his ass beat. badly. I don’t think we’ll see the super dominant Shogun of old ever again.
Sad, but very likely true.
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by Zachary Kater on Jul 26, 2011 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Im surprised Hendo isn't the favourite..
Do people really think Fedor after two losses should be the favourite?
Has to do with Hendo moving up in weight
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by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Is it at heavyweight now?
or still the 215 catchweight. I don’t think the weight difference would be that big between Hendo and Fedor. He doesn’t have to bother with cutting weight either.
It's still at 215
It’s not that big but that’s my only rationale.
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by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
My concern is Hendo's game-plan
I still think if you choose to stand and trade with Fedor your setting yourself up for a nap.
But at $2.80 its hard not to take those odds.
by Soul.T.Nuts on Jul 26, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Except it's Dan Henderson
and he’s never been knocked out in his long career.
It's never been a 215 catchweight
That was in question for all of a week after the fight was booked. This is, and has always been, a proper heavyweight bout. Henderson will tip the scales at the minimum 206 lbs and Fedor will weigh in as he always does, 230-235 lbs.
Those JDS lines don't seem right
I’m betting the house on JDS.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
The long layoff and the type of injury
makes me want to bet everything on JDS too. No way Cain is going to look the same as before.
Killer value on Miller and Dos Santos.
Rampage, Okami, and Diaz are my long-line dogs that have ways to win, Diaz being the least likely. The Shogun vs. Forrest line will close up and make Shogun a great bet.
Hughes is an awful value since his only skills are submissions and Diego is freakin’ impossible to submit. I predict an ugly, long, gross win for Diego or the ushering out of Hughes by stoppage.
Edgar adjusts stupidly well. Looked bad the first time against Penn and I thought he lost. Second fight he fucking owned. Got messed up by Maynard’s wrestling the first fight, came back the next one and outwrestled him, but was surprised by the striking. I won’t pick against him in rematches, and will keep money off this fight.
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Hughes vs. Sanchez made me sad
As I can just see Diego getting a title shot out of it.
Dear Diaz, win.
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by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez vs. GSP would be murder
Diaz vs. Sanchez II for the title? Yes.
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by SSreporters on Jul 26, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Evans -420???
Somebody must be HIGH!
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How exactly?
Rashad fought to a draw with Tito 4 years ago.
Since then he’s went 5-1 against top competition… That one loss being the only one of his career.
Meanwhile, in that same time, Tito’s went 1-3, losing to one of the guys Rashad decisively beat.
Rashad may be coming off an injury and a long layoff, but Tito said himself on Twitter originally that he didn’t want to take this fight because “Peaking for a fight is what makes a fighter unstoppable! Timing is everything in life.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if the odds were even more in Rashad’s favor.
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by Zachary Kater on Jul 26, 2011 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions
i have the imagine the betting public will bet Tito down from +320, a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon and Rashad (although it probably doesn’t matter a whole lot) looks like he’s in a “vulnerable” spot with the long layoff.
That being said there’s no way i’d lay that kind of money on Rashad even though he’ll probably win pretty easily.
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 26, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm liking cain's line
and i think i may throw some change on Luke Rockhold too, dude is a stud. The ring rust kinda makes me apprehensive, but i think he will give jacare a good challenge, and might be able to pull an upset.
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by TheBiggertheyare... on Jul 26, 2011 1:12 AM EDT reply actions
Hughes will win
Diego wins fights by getting his shit kicked and simply being Diego Sanchez. I think that Hughes is better than him. Hughes got caught real quick against BJ in a fight that would have been a lot of fun to watch had it gone on longer.
The really sad part is, if Diego wins a split decision, Dana White will say “The thing is, I have always said this is Diego’s weight class. The kid is a monster at 170 pounds. He deserves a title shot.”
I hope they give him Fitch next so he can just muck his barn and rape his ears with wrestling. Or if they give him BJ again I would be so happy because BJ would just shut him up, give him a bloody face vagina and keep him from changing his nickname. Is it “The Vision” now?
"muck his barn and rape his ears with wrestling"
This line just made my day. I"m going to start doing that to people today!
Agreed on Hughes
Of the underdogs, I think Hughes will be victorious, as well as Hendo and Griffin. I don’t think Sanchez beats Hughes here, for that matter I didn’t think he beat Kampmann. The Fedor/Hendo fight is the most interesting to me but I don’t think Fedor can beat a top contender anymore, LHW or HW. I also believe regardless of where Rua’s cardio/injury situation was in first fight, Griffin is too big for him.
I don't have a farm, but if I did I would bet it on
my man, JDS.
I was initially really worried about Cain’s wrestling, but with the TDD that JDS had against Carwin and big Country (who actually can grapple pretty well) and the scary articles I see on BE about shoulder surgeries, JDS takes this. Do it, Man Crush!!
Love
Hendo and Forrest at these lines. I was surprised to see Forrest/Shogun wasnt close to a pick em.
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