Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson Conference Call Live Updates
by Mike Fagan on Jul 21, 2011 1:15 PM EDT
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Strikeforce will host a conference call at 1 p.m. ET to promote Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson. Scheduled to appear on the call are former Pride heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko, current Strikeforce light heavyweight champion Dan Henderson, current Strikeforce women's bantamweight champ Marloes Coenen, and Miesha Tate. Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker will also participate.
Follow Mike Fagan on Twitter for live updates, and check back here after the call for a full recap.
Fedor Emelianenko
-It would be a very important victory. Dan Henderson has fought for a long time, and has been a champ in many organizations.
-Of course it's important to be heavyweight champ. What's most important, though, is to be master of my sport.
-I don't know how long I want to fight. It's God's will. I'll fight the next fight, and we'll see.
-The two losses have not affected my confidence at all. If God is leading me down a path, then I must go down the path.
-One thing I've learned from losing is that I can thank God for all my success and failures. I'm thankful for all He's given to me.
-I'd like people to remember me as an Orthodox Christian fighter.
-I'm not sure what I'll weigh-in at. Probably similar to what I've weight before. Maybe a little lighter. My guess is 100 kg.
Dan Henderson
-It wasn't a "decision" to come at 206 pounds. It's hard for me to gain weight. I've done plenty of lifting and eating.
-I'm not going to feel outmatched or small out there.
-(On Fedor's fight with Lindland in '07) I guess I won't get caught in an armbar from the bottom.
-Against Werdum, he got a little cocky with his sub. defense. Everyone can get caught, I guess.
-Against Silva, he was a little out of shape. And the size got to him. Silva got on top and didn't let him move.
-He's still trying to hit me with the same punches he would have if he won his last two fights.
-I don't think Fedor's "just another man." It definitely excites me to fight him.
-I'm not going to forget my wrestling, but I look forward to standing and banging with him as well.
-I have no plans on going anywhere. I'd like to defend that Strikeforce belt and go from there.
-I'm always trying to be exciting, whether it's the first fight or the last fight on my contract.
Miesha Tate
-When I say Dana's ignorant, it's not a judgement. I just don't think he knows enough about WMMA.
-If you think about how you've been off a year, yeah, it's going to get to you. But I fight every day in the gym.
-I've had my eyes on Marloes for the last year.
SBN coverage of Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson
Emelianenko and Henderson will officially meet at heavyweight, despite rumors that the bout would take place at light heavyweight or a 220-pound catchweight. Emelianenko is on a two-fight losing streak, the first of his career, after dropping fights to Fabricio Werdum and Antonio Silva. Henderson won the Strikeforce light heavyweight title from Rafael Cavalcante in his last fight.
Coenen is the women's bantamweight champion, and she defended that title with a dramatic fourth-round submission victory over Liz Carmouche in March. Tate is on a five-fight winning streak, but has been out of action since last August. Coenen and Tate were supposed to meet in March, but a knee injury forced her to pull out from the card.
Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson takes place on July 30 at 10 p.m. ET at the Sears Centre in Hoffman Estates, Illinois.
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Could you ask if there is any truth to the loser of Hendo vs. Fedor being cut?
They’re pay together is 2.3 million – 1.5 (Fedor) and 800,00 (Hendo). Will the loser of the fight be cut to trim down some of the costs Strikeforce (Forza AKA Zuffa) incurs on having one of these fighters compete on a card.
by Papercut Elbow on Jul 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions
I haven't even heard this as a rumor... but there is speculation aplenty
Hendo is their champion and Fedor is their only draw.
I think it would be unprecedented for a promotion to buy out a defending champion’s contract. Fedor might be in some danger but I would guess that he’ll probably retire if he loses to Henderson.
Hendo might lose and abandon the belt in favor of a return to the UFC
The bigger question is, what if Fedor wins? What does it mean? It’s a fabulous win in a dream match but it doesn’t put him in line for anything other than perhaps another tiresome round of negotiations with Zuffa about coming into the UFC.
From a fan’s perspective (mine) I would need to see Fedor destroy Hendo to feel bettter about him continuing his career. I could deal with Hendo getting smashed because I feel that he has nothing left to prove. Winning the SF was a great thing to see…shades of Couture beating Sylvia.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
Mohandas Gandhi
"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses - behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
Muhammad Ali
"If MMA is like dog fighting, those are some pretty fucking smart dogs."
"I don’t want to lick any butt."
GSP
Cut their champ?????
lol. Come on. Fedor I could possibly see….. but Hendo losing not in his weight class when he is still the champ? No way.
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you think money is an issue? Business 101 son. lol
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They cut Hendo after UFC100 because they didnt agree to his pay. He got more money in SF and was able to promote his Clinch Gear. Now Zuffa will charge him a sponsor fee like they do all UFC sponsors.
He can stay if he wins but he’ll probably have to take a cut.
by Papercut Elbow on Jul 21, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Cut their champ????
They did cut Jake Shields when he was champ.
no.
they let his contract run out. they figured he’d go to the ufc anyway and banked on Henderson to take him out. then that shit backfired gloriously.
by Victor Rodriguez on Jul 21, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan also stated that this is the last fight on his existing contract as well though, not sure if that includes a Championship Clause or not, have feeling it would/does as after the Shields Fiasco, Coker stated he wasnt going to let things like that happen, but then stuff like Cyborg and Diaz happens and everyone is left wondering WTF…
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Coenen is the Women's Welterweight Champ
Not Bantamweight. Last I heard 145 is middle, 135 is welter, 125 is light, and 115 is bantam for the women.
Correct me if I am wrong though…
i had a 6' 170 lb girl go to my Bjj school.
She had a full ride volleyball scholarship and she was a cutie. DDs and thick thighs weigh a few lbs. She choked out dudes on the regular.
She was very athletic. It was a bummer when she had to move for work.
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Jul 21, 2011 4:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
now that i think about it.
There is another purple belt girl the comes to my school that is 5’8 165, and is cross fit instructor. She also won grapplers quest women’s nogi advanced absolute .She has big boobs and thick thighs too. Boobies weigh chicks down. Lol
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Jul 21, 2011 4:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
She's sounds exactly like my girl
Except for the crossfit trainer and BJJ part. ;-)
Not a lot of tall, thick athletic girls(with huge boobs) out there to compete against each other though, or in general for that matter.
I’m just saying if 135lbs is BW, there is no such thing as WW division.
I know it sounds sexist, but if you’re getting your ass handed to you by a woman who’s not way more experienced than you, you need to hit the weights. Bad.
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Having a huge strength and conditioning advantage goes a long way against anyone.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
Strength and endurance are awful nice hole cards to be holding.
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Jul 21, 2011 5:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Super flyweight?
My guess is they use a system similar to boxing and 105 could be strawweight. Not really sure.
Wouldn't mind seeing a proper breakdown of weights for the women
Anyone know if its posted anywhere?
Can't find it anywhere
But if what Mike is saying is correct, the weight limits went up, not down.
He’s saying 135 is BW, so I guess that means that their weight divisions are the same as the mens’ now/
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
correct
Its a simple solution to a problem implemented while knowledge of the female side of the sport is still in its infancy.
Trying to set the names of womens divisions in a “heaviest class = heavyweight” mentality creates a situation where one weight has two different names for the different sexes. The average mma fan can’t remember that. Its much simpler to have the same names.
145 = feather 135 = bantam. 125 = fly 115 =superfly 105 = straw
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by The Midge on Jul 22, 2011 12:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s hard to predict how a fight will play out but some match ups just guarantee explosive fireworks and this is one of them.Can’t wait…but I’m taking Fedor.
by Spicy Chicken Wings on Jul 21, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions
"I've had my eyes on Marloes for the last year"
Oh, me too!
by Dangit! on Jul 21, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
mine have been on Meisha's butt.
Lol
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Jul 21, 2011 2:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Alright we get it Fedor!
You’re clearly an evolutionist.
So then me and my homeboy TheFilt snithed all over them hoes!
by Fake Emcee on Jul 21, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I just realized
“wedlock” even sounds like you’re being held prisoner.
So then me and my homeboy TheFilt snithed all over them hoes!
Which is accurate
I’d be a prisoner of love.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
by TheFilt on Jul 21, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Wedlock sounds so much like a submission move when read on an mma forum.
And just like any other sub; you either tap out, get broke or die while still in the hold…
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
The wedlock is the only submission that results in a purse deduction.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
by TheFilt on Jul 21, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
" In pain is the fighter on the bottom"
“Oh wow! Is he, yes a WEDLOCK! That move is banned in armature competition”
“What’s a wedlock Joe?”
“It’s a very painful submission. It shoots very intense pain right to the buttocks and can cause long lasting damage.”
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
If it is God’s will
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
by DayGeaux on Jul 21, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Has Fedor gotten even churchier???
It’s almost cringeworthy. The notion of “God’s will” spits in the face of the notion of free will which every Xtian I have ever met says is of fundamental importance. It is nice that Fedor has been a humble winner, but now that he’s losing he needs to own the responsibility not parrot words from Greek drama. .
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
Mohandas Gandhi
"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses - behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
Muhammad Ali
"If MMA is like dog fighting, those are some pretty fucking smart dogs."
"I don’t want to lick any butt."
GSP
If only Thomas Aquinas could give us a Judo-Chop on this topic
Christianity has many, many variants and Fedor clearly isn’t Baptist.
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
I actually think it's refreshing
How many athletes do you hear thank God in defeat? I typically only hear them thank him when they are victorious. Fedor is teaching athletes the correct way to be consistent when it comes to religion.
Fedor is Russian Orthodox
Which is part of the Eastern Orthodox Communion.
They aren’t big on free will as a necessity viewing everything as part of God’s “Sovereign Will”. They’re pretty deterministic in their Theology as far as my readings are concerned.
But why type Xtian? That’s kinda weird, why can’t you just type out Christian?
"eat a dick" - Chris Barton
Ehhhh
Free Will is actually a really big deal in Eastern Orthodoxy.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jul 21, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ehh part 2
It depends on what his particular church eschews, but here is the main premise on free will:
What does the Eastern Orthodox Church teach about free will? They have never been concerned about the so-called discoveries of human reason. Rather it trusts the sacred Scriptures and the holy Fathers.
Who's the only one here who knows illegal ninja moves from the government?
No holds barred, no time for move fakin,
Gots to get the loot so I can bring home the bacon - Charlie Brown
Fedor prime weight was 225 pounds. If he comes in at 220, a little more fit and ripped, is enough for me.
by Carlos Estrada-Ibars Martínez on Jul 21, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions
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