With his PSAC suspension just lifted, Nate Marquardt now responds to his recent critics in an interview with MMA Junkie:
"Some of the fighters that think they're so cool and tough by kicking a guy when he's down – as far as my career, this has been one of the worst times of my life, and these guys are calling me a cheater and talking crap – I've taken note as to who those guys are, and I'm going to come for them. Eventually, I'll get them. I don't care if it's in a superfight or if they want to come down to my gym. I'll beat them up for free."
"I think you know who these guys are – Ben Askren, B.J. Penn, Paul Daley, Hector Lombard, cowards talking crap about a guy when he's in such a situation. They're trying to take advantage of the situation. They're bullies. Those are the guys I want to beat up."
"I'm not putting the blame on everyone else," Marquardt said. "Everyone had their little piece of fault, but I accept my part in the blame. The fault that I had, I take responsibility for. There are a few little things that if I could go back in time and change them, I wouldn't be in this position. There's things I'm doing now that will prevent this from ever happening again or ever becoming an issue.
"The truth is going to come out over time. It has already started to come back. I was under suspension for literally less than three weeks, and my suspension was lifted. I didn't get any fines. This hasn't happened before in this sport, and it shows that I wasn't cheating. I have hope. There are crap-talkers like B.J. Penn who want to kick a guy when he's down, and I would love to fight that guy."
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Only way some of that is happening is if his opponents beef up. Though a part of me wouldn’t mind him fighting Lombard for some reason. I can understand his distaste but this is during a time where PEDs are just now being found out from Olympics to Baseball to MMA.
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by Krimson on Jul 14, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why would any of his opponents need to beef up? They’re all 170/185…
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 14, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking BJ Penn, I forgot how much Askren was.
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Even the best BE readers can be wrong from time to time
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by Krimson on Jul 14, 2011 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BJ would finish Nate in the first round, KO most likely.
There is no way Nate wins those first few exchanges, which will break his already weak mind.
As he struggles with the live python that is BJ’s front leg to no avail. He will break even further.
“Why didn’t I keep my levels higher?” He will think to himself as Bj hops around on one foot, punching him in the face.
As he falls to his ass from a BJ overhand right, he begins to feel irritable, with no energy. Lethargic, even.
“My stupid wife left those damn dishes in the sink last night. Dammit.” He ponders, as BJ begins the Mount-Smash-Take the Back-Heels to the hip-arm trap-RNC sequence.
“W-wait! How did I get here!? WHO AM I!?! Why is that little dude licking blood of his gloves!?” His mind screams in a fervor of low-T confusion.
Horrible. The poor man.
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by Shotokanman on Jul 14, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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Holy shit
that is funny…
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by The American Ronin on Jul 14, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nate doesn't really have any business playing victim...
by The Burning Scheyer Jersey on Jul 14, 2011 10:43 AM EDT reply actions
He's a man and a fighter
and a whole lot of lesser fighters lined up to talk shit about him when he was down. I personally think that he cheated and deserved to be punished, but I don’t think he’s playing the victim by making clear to those guys that he’s still a pretty tough dude and would be happy to maim some or all of them at their convenience. There are consequences to pissing off guys like Nate Marquardt. He’s just making that clear.
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by Dave Strummer on Jul 14, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Except for Paul Daley of course
who’s commentary was totally mild, and who matches up pretty good against Nate’s style at WW IMHO.
/fanboy.
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by Dave Strummer on Jul 14, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Bj would own Nate. Daley would own him if Nate decided to stand. Lombard is going to rape Nate.
Askren would be competitively awesome .
Bj seems to have a bushido code. He really hates steroids. I doubt he cares if someone who cheats during fights , test positive for juice, and is an alleged greaser doesn’t wanna be friends. I am pretty sure that fight would inspire Bj’s cannibalistic nature more so than any fight in a long long time.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I should restate
I don’t necessarily think Nate beats all the guys who are talking about him, but I think he’s competitive with all of them, and I don’t have a problem with him throwing some of their smack talk back at them.
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by Dave Strummer on Jul 14, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
He would need it
The guy is like 3-3-1 over the last couple years with wins over Diego and the ghost of Matt Hughes… Nate may be a little more competitive with BJ than you think, bushido code or not.
i have watched all those fights numerous times.
Bj is a far more impressive fighter than his record suggests.
Nate is a swiss army knife. He’s ok at a lot of things , but great at nothing. Bj is great at just about every discipline in mma (his Muay Thai is not amazing) . Nate might be able to out cadio him, but I doubt it. Nate has never been cardio machine. I don’t see how Nate beats him.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
That outside slip
to 2 3 4 combo was amazing.
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There’s still people out there who have faith in BJ Penn? Incredible. Marquardt would throw him around like a ragdoll.
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based on what??
Beach muscles? Nate couldn’t throw kappman around.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Beach muscles? Are you serious?
Nate Marquardt throws nearly EVERYONE around.
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lol
Didn’t Nate lose that fight? And did nothing with that takedown…… And that was an attempt at a head spike.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 12:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s beside the point, he still throws people around and he can throw an undersized BJ Penn around too. If you haven’t noticed, when BJ starts getting thrown around, he loses the fight.
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it kinda isnt besides the point.
He did not win the grappling or that fight. Using poor technique and burning energy doesn’t impress me. Neither does Nate’s constant cheating (that was a spike) . I am not talking about the Juice. I mean the actual fouls he commits in an attempt to injure his opponents.
And what fightS did Bj get thrown around in and lose?
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He did win the grappling and he lost the fight due to a point deduction. I could care less what impresses you or doesn’t impress you, the point at issue here is whether an undersized BJ Penn, who has historically lost fights where he is thrown around, would do against Marquardt. All signs point to ‘not so well’. I don’t care much for Marquardt but you need to let your fanboy tendencies go and try to view this fight objectively.
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I am obviously a big Bj fan. But Bj has fought better grapplers that didn’t throw him around , I just don’t see Nate doing it. I also think the cut to w.w. will rob Nate of his strength and gas tank. Out side of the first rd I wouldn’t view Nate’s size as an advantage. Bj’s superior technical ability would nullify imo.
I also think Bj is a better striker. Hence the owning comment.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i dont get it ? frankie is a great technical wrestler and very fast.
Frankie did worse to maynard. Is grey a crap wrestler now?
When did I say frankie isn’t a great wrestler? I hate the way he fights, but he is an awesome wrestler.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Frankie is the most underrated wrestler in the UFC. He has dominated everyone he has wrestled. I actually think he could dominate fights with his wrestling as well. If Frankie ever faces someone better than him on the feet, we will see it (may take a while to find someone though).
If heavyweight isn't the toughest division in the UFC, then why doesn't someone that can kick their asses move to it? They don’t even have to cut weight!!
You are saying that Nate's Wrestling is on par with GSP and Frankie?
And people say I’m delusional.
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Oh really?
If you haven’t noticed, when BJ starts getting thrown around, he loses the fight
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by Chris Hall on Jul 14, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
...
but that’s not a fight
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by SentientAndroid on Jul 14, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't care
the gif is amazing and proves that gravity is not always on.
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Bj was gonna be the lead in the next spiderman movie.
When he found out they were gonna use cgi for the action scenes….. he declined.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 4:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He lost because he got 2 point deductions
he beat the shit outta Leites.
Learn JiuJitsu.
Always looking for that new danger.
he really did
But the fouls were ridiculous and the spike didn’t even get called.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 3:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it would have been another point.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 3:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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by The Lethal Haze on Jul 14, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
never mind
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by The Lethal Haze on Jul 14, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
kampman is really going to be the fight you base your argument on??
nate made him look like hellen keller in the cage with him that night.
i totally meant to put almeida.
Wasn’t the kappman fight over in like 60 seconds?
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i kinda feel like an asshole now.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 1:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
bj has taken down , jon fitch, lyoto machida, matt hughes, and gsp.
Nate is not an impressive grappler.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We get it, you are not impressed with Nate
I just scoff at remarks like “BJ would own Nate”, especially with this sport. It is a patently ridiculous thing to say, especially when a lightweight and a middleweight meet in the middle! Who knows how that fight plays out? I hate frigging fanboys… BJ hasn’t been all that impressive FOR YEARS, and yet he is still some unstoppable force with you guys. I am going back to work, this is too stupid…;
I thought his first round against Fitch was very impressive. I thought he would get thoroughly pwned in that fight (and yeah, it happened in rd. 3). Just saying, that was a very good performance in part, especially for a fighter out of his weight-class.
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he was viewed as a p4p king and was a champ 2010.
That’s not quite years.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 1:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
can't help wondering
if i am alone in liking mma commentary without the reference to forced sexual intercourse.
no offense or anything…
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What did Pual say exactly? I knew Penn, Hardy, Askren and Lombard said something. I like Nate and he’s not the only guy that has ever “cheated” before. I like Penn, Hardy and Daley, but fuck those other guys…although I’m pretty sure that out of all of those guys Hardy is the only gimme fight imo. It really was fucking pathetic how everyone just jumped on him and started talking mad shit and taking shots at him, I wonder why everyone was so silent about Chael…
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by SentientAndroid on Jul 14, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I just checked and I think Paul actually called him out a little
and he may have called TRT “bullshit”.
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by Dave Strummer on Jul 14, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
For Most fighters id totally agree with this
Nate is different, he was in no way slow to speak ill of Bispings actions.
Nate says he is a religious man he should maybe think of the line ‘let he who is without sin cast the first stone’ .
by Mustardfinger on Jul 14, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe they are “lesser” fighters, but they’re lesser fighters who didn’t cheat.
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Like I said, I agree that Nate’s a cheater, but he’s also a badass, and when you poke badasses in the eyes, there can be consequences. He’s really just saying he’s going to remember those dudes and hurt them if he gets the opportunity, and his resume says he’s entirely capable of backing up his words.
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by Dave Strummer on Jul 14, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yes he may
He actually does kick people when they are down though. Literally, see leteies for proof.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 3:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Based on his actions (previous proven PED use, cheating in the cage) and now this whole mess of
“Time will tell” and “The truth will come out” and staying silent for 3 days while everyone speculated when he could have manned up and told everyone. But no, lets take a few days and get all our ducks in a row before we release a statement.
Man and Fighter? Sure, but I would have to say Boy and Cheater work just as well, wouldn’t you?
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I'll try to say this again, because apparently I haven't been clear
I think Nate is a cheater, and while I’m always happy to see him on a card, I’m not what I’d call a “fan” of his.
All I’m saying is that his statement in this case is totally reasonable in the context of who he is: a professional MMA fighter with a fairly impressive resume. Even cheaters get pissed off when people talk shit about them, and Nate has the tools to do something about it.
I’m just happy to sit back and see how it all plays out.
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by Dave Strummer on Jul 14, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The best part of this is
He could really fight any of the 4 he mentioned, as long as they let him back into UFC/Strikeforce… or I would love to see him shut Ben Askren up
Daley v Marquardt
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by Colorado Fan on Jul 14, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Aren't they both at WW now?
Marquardt and Penn – I mean?
Do weight divisions factor into it outside the cage? I should try that one if I get jacked on the street by a big dude :).
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Since Marquardt failed to actually make his WW debut, the world must have forgotten.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 14, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Marquardt is 6’1" and has found most of his success at 185. BJ is 5’9" and has found most of his success at 155. Marquardt refers to BJ as a bully yet he’s the one demanding a fight even though he is naturally a far bigger man. Is this making sense yet?
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by lowellthehammer on Jul 14, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
come on man...
You can’t talk shit and then claim to be the smaller guy, especially when you are both scheduled to fight in the same weight class (and BJ never claimed this…just saying).
Thats like saying Vitor is a coward for fighting Akiyama, cause Akiyama is really a natural WW and vitor has fought at LHW…what a puss
by Fedorable on Jul 14, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's not the point.
The point is that it’s a bit ironic that a bigger man is demanding to fight a smaller man because the smaller guy is a bully. You guys are usually better than this.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 14, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
but one isn't bigger or smaller!?!
They were both going to fight at 170…
If someone who is going to fight at WW is calling out BJ Penn, who is a current top contender at WW, how is that ironic?
I understand how their walk around weight might be, but when it comes time to get in the cage…it would be no problem at all to get a fight at the same weight class.
Its not like Forrest Griffin calling out Frankie Edgar or Brock calling out Nate Diaz… They both fight in the same weight class
by Fedorable on Jul 14, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont consider Nate a WW cause he never ended up fighting at WW.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda doesn’t work in this case for me. He didn’t. He isn’t.
by The Hamburger Pimp on Jul 14, 2011 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't tell if you're trolling me or you're really this thick.
If you saw a ripped 190-200 lb guy on the street trying to pick a fight with a soft 165 lber and the bigger guy claimed that the smaller guy was being a bully, you wouldn’t think “Huh, that is not at all what I expected and is in fact humorous because of how unexpected it was”? I get that Marquardt could hypothetically make 170. That does not erase the fact that he’s fucking huge compared to BJ.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 14, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not trolling, and its not some guy on the street
Its 2 professional MMA fighters in the same weight class…
I don’t know how you can argue that one guy is being a bully?? Should nate not be allowed to fight BJ if he ever gets back into the UFC at 170?
I get what you are saying too…If someone has 20 lbs more muscle then someone else, then that means means that they shouldn’t pick on the other guy… like a 270lbs Brock Lesnar fighting a 240lbs Cain Velasquez…
by Fedorable on Jul 14, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh my god. This is unreal.
What do most people picture when they hear the word bully? A bigger stronger guy who picks on people smaller than him. Marquardt, the bigger stronger guy in this case, is picking a fight with a smaller guy and claiming that the smaller man is a bully. This is ironic because usually when a bigger guy picks a fight with a smaller guy the bigger guy is perceived as a bully. It has NOTHING AT ALL to do with whether or not they could make 170 or if they should/should not fight or if BJ could win (apparently yes, should, and definitely in that order).
Do you get it now?
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by lowellthehammer on Jul 14, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I get that it is ironic that the bigger of the two fighters is calling the smaller fighter a bully…
But I don’t agree with you that Marquardt, is in fact, the bully of the two.
He’s standing up for himself against someone who verbally insulted him or whatever.
So while, yes, Marquardt has better beach muscles, and probably 25lbs on BJ in their walk around weight, I don’t think calling out BJ is being a bully, because the two of them can very well fight.
Now if Marquardt were to call out Kenny Florian, then I would say he’s being an idiot, because they could obviously never fight… still probably not being a bully, but just an Idiot
Actually the video of the bully getting power bombed was an eye opener for a lot of people about bullying. Bullies do not need to be bigger they just need more people on their side and willing to go along with the abuse.
This has nothing to do with Nate and Penn fighting, just pointing out that the stereotypical bully does not come in the form it use to.
I’d rather just climb this fridge
So what your saying, is that the bigger guy can’t be pissed about a small guy talking shit and wanting to do something about it?
What is so out of the ordinary about that?
I didn’t know small guys had license to say whatever they want to a big guy, and not worry about the consequences.
Sheeeeeeeee-it
so are you
size isn’t relevant to the act of bullying. at least that’s what i’m getting out of this. besides if size determines bullying how do you explain Forrest/Silva or Cain/Brock or anyone A Johnson loses to?
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by F'n Clownshoes on Jul 14, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Smaller guys can't be bullies?
I think Casey Heynes would have something to say about that.
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holy fuck
what happened to that kid after that slam?
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This was a big-ish news story a few months ago.
Both of them got suspended, but there was a lot of popular support for the big guy after.
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by bcpjkell on Jul 14, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They can't.
But BJ isn’t 5’9" as stated. BJ is more like 5’6". Im 5’8" n he’s 2inches shorter than me. That fight wud b a big size advantage them again every fight at WW is a disadvantage for bj
by itsnotthatserious on Jul 14, 2011 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1. how do you know that penn is 5’6" when every profile of him says that he is 5’9"?
2. bj penn fought lyoto machida and even though he lost the decision, many people actually thought that he won the fight. what do you think about that fight?
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by alicks on Jul 14, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So GSP is like 5’8, Fitch 5’9 and Edgar 5’4…
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by dancingChicken on Jul 14, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP is not 5’8." I’m 6’1" and was taller, but not so much taller I thought ’Wow, GSP is really short." When I met B.J. Penn he was sitting down chilling so I have no first hand report…
I’ve seen Fitch in Vegas. I’d guess he’s pretty close to 6’.
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by Jonathan Snowden on Jul 14, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I was joking. If Penn is 5’8 (according to the above commenter), then his opponents are analogically shorter
"... All reined up in old language and old assumptions, straining to jump clean-hoofed on to a whole new track of being I only suspect is there. I can't see it, because my educated, average head is being held at the wrong angle..."
by dancingChicken on Jul 14, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I just like to periodically talk about how tall or short people are. My wife is 5’3" in case you are curious. My little brother is 6’3."
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by Jonathan Snowden on Jul 14, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 14, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, that’s a fair argument, but I was literally referring to the people who forgot BJ was a WW.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 14, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously.
“If BJ can pick up the burrito and make it up to 185 I’ll show him what I’m all about!”
Fuck off Nate. I’d pick BJ in that fight anyways.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 14, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
when people ask while lowelthehammer is my favorite commenter.
I will refer to this post.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 11:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
Like you’d have to work hard to convince BJ to pick up the burrito
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Dana also talked shit about you Nate
watcha gonna do about it pretty boy?
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Probably cry.
Him being so low on testosterone and whatnot.
What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.
by lowellthehammer on Jul 14, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
damn
you really don’t like Nate huh?
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by SentientAndroid on Jul 14, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana called him a sweetheart multiple times. Sure Dana placed blame on Nate but he didn’t exactly talk shit.
by TMadeBurner on Jul 14, 2011 10:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd hate to be called a sweetheart by another man.
It’s almost a diss.
by The Hamburger Pimp on Jul 14, 2011 11:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
almost? almost?
i’m not sure that word means what you think it means.
by Franklin Goodish on Jul 14, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
UMADBRO?
So a cheater is upset about being called a cheater… ? Would love to see BJ beat the bag out of him.
by AngryTwinkie on Jul 14, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 10 recs
I know...
What a douche this guy is. He’s been caught using performance enhancing drugs to unfairly beat on guys multiple times now, and he’s still calling other people bullies and trying to play the innocent victim in this? What a retard. Apparently whatever shrunk his balls also shrunk his brain.
Innocent as he wants to be
The truth is going to come out over time. It has already started to come back.
This is infuriating. He’s the only one who can tell the whole truth. Why should it come out over time? Why not let it all out right now, Nate? Wasn’t that the point of the interview with Ariel Helwani?
I’d still love to see the fights that he’s proposing, though…
by Wonderjudas on Jul 14, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Nate, since every report is supposedly false, why dont you what actually happened?
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by Bloodsport on Jul 14, 2011 10:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That was my first thought also, How is this man even saying anyhting at this point other then I am sorry for what I did ? It just blows me away he is talking like this after getting caught cheating and for the 2nd time.
This would be like Manny Ramirez,Jose Canseco,A-Rod,Rafael Palmeiro,Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire,etc or any other player who got caught using PED’s saying I can’t wait to face that pitcher who talked shit about me for my PED use so I can hit a 500 ft HR off him.
Are you guys really fucking serious?
“How is this man even saying anyhting at this point other then I am sorry for what I did ?” Did Chael say that he was sorry for what he did? Honestly the double standards boggle my fucking mind. Nate is a good guy, he doesn’t fighter bash or none of that shit. I mean sure he may be a loose cannon and do dumb shit in the cage (Leites Spike), but damnit the dude was only on suspension for about a month. Meanwhile, Chael Fucking Sonnen gets to talk all the shit he wants about Brazillians, Bisping, and orphans, but it’s cool because he’s entertaining. The dude’s a fucking cheater, liar and a gotdamn xenophobe, but it’s fucking cool!? Nate gets a “Fuck Nate Marquardt”, while Chael gets a “hahaha lol! Chael’s great!”
Boggles my fucking mind…
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by SentientAndroid on Jul 14, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate sonnen
I hate greasers too.
Except Anderson ….. And I have no good reason for this.
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by the-gentle-way on Jul 14, 2011 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You hate greasers because you’re a BJ Penn fan and probably believes that the if GSP didn’t have a little bit of vas on his back BJ would have somehow looked like he belonged in the cage with George.
I’d rather just climb this fridge
haha that’s because Anderson defies logic!
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by SentientAndroid on Jul 14, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You are going by a double standard as well. You want to hang Chael for being asshole who talks shit about people while you believe Nate should be given some grace because “hes a nice guy”. I rather a fight talk all the shit in the world rather than spike another on his head.
Chael was caught once and never acts outside the rules in the cage. Nate has been nailed twice for drugs and has also broken so many rules in a fight that he lost due to point deductions.
I’d rather just climb this fridge
I’m saying that if you’re going to hang one, hang them both. If you’re going to keep one, keep them both. And all of that spiking of Leites shit is irrelevant because, ya know, Leites didn’t get spiked.
“I rather a fight talk all the shit in the world rather than spike another on his head.” See that’s the problem right there, after everything that I’ve mentioned that Chael did (lied to the commission, cheated, xenophobe), you block all that out and focus on his shit talking. What about in the match against Filho where Chael tried to pull that bullshit “but I didn’t tap!” excuse? he did it again against Anderson, that’s a form of cheating in itself. There’s nothing wrong at all with a little shit talking to your opponent BEFORE the fight, but constantly doing it afterwards especially after you lost definitively and talking down about an entire culture is just fucking ridiculous. What if Penn just constantly talked shit about GSP and Canadians (yeah I’m aware) even after he lost?
And who the fuck doesn’t break the rules in the cage? I keep hearing about the spike, that’s your only ammunation when damn near every over fighter has grabbed the fence, kicked/kneed a dude in the balls, grabbed shorts etc. Hell I love Oliveira and Silva (look at my sig) but Nate’s supposed spike isn’t anywhere near as bad as Olive Oil’s knee (that broke some bones in Lentz’ face) or Anderson’s ko upkick. Hell, Bisping kneed the shit out of Rivera as well, so all of this constant talk about how Nate’s a blatant cheater really needs to stop at least as far as his in-cage performances are concerned.
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by SentientAndroid on Jul 14, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
Nate also punched Almeida(?) after the fight. (But he got kicked in the face for it so it all even out)
Overall I agree with you, just wanted to point out that Nate does have a history of poor form.
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True, but Almeida supposedly held the choke too long as well. It’s all good broham.
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by SentientAndroid on Jul 15, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You can’t even compare the two. Nate Fing up that main event on Versus might of just cost the UFC a prime time spot on NBC a hell of alot of money and much more.
:/
It was a free card on Versus, it wasn’t a ppv over the Super Bowl weekend…
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by SentientAndroid on Jul 14, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So is he gonna beat up Trevor Wittman too? He says he’ll beat up the other guys for free if they come down to his gym so it should be easy for him to find Trevor
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People said mean things so Nate will beat them up
So… nearly costing your employer a lot of money by dorking up a main event fight, what’s that worth? Do the Fertitta brothers get to take Nate’s thumbs?
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by Tech Fall 171 on Jul 14, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Sweet!!
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by malo on Jul 14, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All you gotta do is circle him for about 5 mins
leg kick him 20 or so times and then…
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by RolloTomasi on Jul 14, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would've thought
that the Blob could beat the Juggernaut!?
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by SentientAndroid on Jul 15, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Well when the juggernaugut can't fight for shit...
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Nate has clearly taken note of the fact that almost everyone who publicly calls someone out, gets that fight made (or attempted to be made), and hopes to parlay piquing the interest of someone like BJ into a ticket back to the UFC.
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by The American Ronin on Jul 14, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
This Guy is a Passive Agressive Gutless Person
Everyone had their little piece of fault, but I accept my part in the blame. The fault that I had, I take responsibility for
YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE!!! Nate is responsible for his management, doctors, training, diet, etc etc. He surrounds himself with these people, you don’t just plug people in and blindly do what they tell you. Be a man and be candid the world will respect him for it and move on. Being cloaked in conspiracy opens people to take their own stance on it and you become F’d in the court of public opinion. Beating a guy who was a number 1 contenter for the UFC MW title is a big deal outside of the UFC so don’t blame people for taking on an opportunity. Now go get beat up by Hector Lombard and be done with this mess.
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Nate should keep talking about BJ...
and hope BJ goes to DFW and begs on his hands and knees for this fight. Nate deserves a 2nd or 4th chance. Why not welcome him back with 5 round fight with BJ. Hahaha.
by MrSperk on Jul 14, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
*3 round fight
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Main events are 5 rounds so possibly....
by Afrotikiman on Jul 14, 2011 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
so possibly....
BJ gasses toward the end and loses the fight?
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by Baby Wads on Jul 14, 2011 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nate, you are an idiot...
Just because someone overturned their decision to ban you doesn’t mean that you still didn’t test high for Testosterone levels. The fact of the matter is, TRT is a joke. It screams “I CHEAT!” Nate, you are undoubtebly a cheater.
elmojo,
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by Franklin Goodish on Jul 14, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha.
You forgot the winkyface.
by The Hamburger Pimp on Jul 14, 2011 1:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I’m a little shocked so many people think Lombard would beat Marquardt. He has fought literally 2 good people his entire career and he lost to them both. Just because Marquardt has lost to Sonnen and Okami I think people underrate him, I think he beats Lobard comfortably
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He’s beat James Te Huna, Brian Ebersol, Kalib Starnes, Jay Silva, and Joe Doerkson..all of who have fought in the UFC recently (or are still fighting in the UFC).
Schlemenko and Vitale are no slouches either…
So I think you need to give him a bit more credit then having fought only 2 “good” fighters.
I think Lombard would lose, only due to the fact that he fancies himself as the new Mike Tyson. If he were able to use his grappling credentials to take the fight to the mat, he should have no problem with Marquardt (who really only has trouble with fighters who are able to hold him down the whole fight)
I think it would be an interesting fight just to see an example of the difference between a top Bellator fighter and a top (ex)UFC fighter. I also think even welterweight Marquardt would have a huge strength advantage, I think Lombard is way too muscly for his frame
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I have always considered Nate a dirty cheating fighter
the piss result and bs to follow just proves it.
Nayte Marquar, Lombard wants to whoop you up, alright? Make it happen.
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You think Lombard takes Marquardt?
He does well against lesser comp, but…
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by The American Ronin on Jul 14, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I was paraphrasing Lombard from an earlier post ( http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/7/13/2274476/bellator-middleweight-champion-hector-lombard-is-happy-that-nate#comments ).
I don’t know if he would take Nate, but it’s a fight that needs to happen. Outside of Zuffa, it’s probably the most interesting fight on the horizon
"... All reined up in old language and old assumptions, straining to jump clean-hoofed on to a whole new track of being I only suspect is there. I can't see it, because my educated, average head is being held at the wrong angle..."
by dancingChicken on Jul 14, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, Lombard would Knock the Fuck out of Nate.
Lombard is criminally underrated imo.
And Nate suffers from the mental weakness all fighters that feel the need to use PED’s suffer from, while Hector possess the testicular fortitude of 2 men twice his size.
Please god let that fight happen.
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Lombard is good to be sure, but
I have a hard time thinking too much of a guy who bullies people in the gym and tries to injure training partners. But maybe that’s just me…
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by The American Ronin on Jul 14, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana said this is the 3rd time Nate has been busted
so I guess the first two were unjust as well…..
Nate has admitted his completely accidental and very small part in his failing of 3 separate tests. It is VERY RUDE of us to not acknowledge the others at fault like… ahem well… ok I can’t think of anyone else. It has been a difficult time for him, suffering so as a result of others’ mistakes!
If heavyweight isn't the toughest division in the UFC, then why doesn't someone that can kick their asses move to it? They don’t even have to cut weight!!
by crizzy on Jul 14, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
these double standards are ridiculous
he was open about what he did, and not being a conniving weasel like Sonnen, yet its Sonnen that is celebrated, cherished and loved.
disgusting, you all deserve a kick to the head by Renzo Gracie after the bell!
by elmojo on Jul 15, 2011 3:42 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
my sentiments exactly
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by SentientAndroid on Jul 15, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
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