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Video: Kim Couture Gets Choked Unconscious by Sheila Bird

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Randy Couture's ex-wife, Kim Couture, fought again this past Friday and the finish was a gruesome thing to watch. She fought Sheila Bird on AX Combat 1, and "Sugar Free" got choked unconscious by leg scissors in less than 2 minutes.

Kim has now lost two in a row, and has dropped her overall professional record to 3-5. What's most notable on this bout though, was the incompetency of the referee. Kim was clearly out moments after the leg scissors was locked in, but the referee still let the fight go on. By the time it was stopped, Couture had been stuck unconscious on the choke for at least 10 seconds, and it took about a minute before Couture regained her consciousness.

Things have to change, as it is incompetent officiating like this that severely risks a fighter's health, and could lead to permanent damage or even death.

Check out the video below to see for yourself.


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dang

ref was….4-5 secs too late to stop that.

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by Guillermo Ponce on Jul 10, 2011 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Longer than that.

Count from when her leg goes limp.

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by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, that was in the 10-12 second range...

….just horrifying to watch….can someone post that refs name? Will have to send this to @FightLawyer for evaluation of potential criminal negligence charges……

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by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Jul 10, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damages being?

While I agree that he is completely incompetent and should never ref another fight, I don’t see charges going anywhere.

"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift

by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Charges may go nowhere, but that man should never be in charge of anyone’s life, and should be, at the very least, heavily fined for this.

"Rather than love, than money, than faith, than fame, than fairness... give me truth."
Chris McCandless A.K.A. Alexander Supertramp
1968-1992

by T.C. Engel on Jul 10, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be ok...

with cutting off a toe.

"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift

by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would prefer

lingchi

Sig betting against The-gentle-way is like playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic weapon. The only thing he knows more about than fighting is pleasing women, and my girlfriend is thankful for that.

its his schtick.
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by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit.

"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift

by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

crazy shit, right.

Sig betting against The-gentle-way is like playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic weapon. The only thing he knows more about than fighting is pleasing women, and my girlfriend is thankful for that.

its his schtick.
he’s a complete Buzzkill McDickintheass on the internet because he doesnt have the stones to be one in real life… or just doesnt have friends to do it to. - MMArazorback

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Officially outlawed in 1905...

Not that long ago.

"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift

by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gross.

I didn’t make it that far down the page.

Thanks.

"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift

by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

What

the holy fuck, mdh?

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by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean of course i am not serious

I just feel like that is some insane punishment and kind of interesting.

Sig betting against The-gentle-way is like playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic weapon. The only thing he knows more about than fighting is pleasing women, and my girlfriend is thankful for that.

its his schtick.
he’s a complete Buzzkill McDickintheass on the internet because he doesnt have the stones to be one in real life… or just doesnt have friends to do it to. - MMArazorback

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lingchi was reserved for crimes viewed as especially severe, such as treason and killing one’s parents.

Damn, I can dig it for folks who kill their parents, but treason? They did not fuck around when it came to country loyalty!

Also, that picture is pretty sick, but definitely not a thousand slices. They must have eased up a bit towards the modern ages.

For Medieval torture, I think the Choke Pear takes the cake.

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jul 10, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read that and became increasingly concerned with the

“anal pear”.

Sig betting against The-gentle-way is like playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic weapon. The only thing he knows more about than fighting is pleasing women, and my girlfriend is thankful for that.

its his schtick.
he’s a complete Buzzkill McDickintheass on the internet because he doesnt have the stones to be one in real life… or just doesnt have friends to do it to. - MMArazorback

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2011 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is infinitely worse

from this place

Now, this torture of the boats is as follows. Two boats are taken, which are so made as to fit over one another closely; in one of these the victim is laid, flat upon his back; then the other is laid over the first and carefully adjusted, so that the victim’s head, hands, and feet are left projecting, while the rest of his body is completely covered up. Then they give him food to eat, and if he refuse it, they force him to take it by pricking his eyes. After he has eaten, they give him a mixture of milk and honey to drink, pouring it into his mouth, and also deluge his face with it. Then they keep his eyes always turned towards the sun, and a swarm of flies settles down upon his face and hides it completely. And since inside the boats he does what must needs be done when men eat and drink, worms and maggots seethe up from the corruption and rottenness of the excrement, devouring his body, and eating their way into his vitals. For when at last the man is clearly dead and the upper boat has been removed, his flesh is seen to have been consumed away, while about his entrails swarms of such animals as I have mentioned are clinging fast and eating. In this way Mithridates was slowly consumed for seventeen days, and at last died.

Sig betting against The-gentle-way is like playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic weapon. The only thing he knows more about than fighting is pleasing women, and my girlfriend is thankful for that.

its his schtick.
he’s a complete Buzzkill McDickintheass on the internet because he doesnt have the stones to be one in real life… or just doesnt have friends to do it to. - MMArazorback

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2011 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why do you know of this

You are a sick bastard.

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by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

this girl I work with was reading a book on torture and I borrowed it from her. Wild shit in that book I tells ya.

Sig betting against The-gentle-way is like playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic weapon. The only thing he knows more about than fighting is pleasing women, and my girlfriend is thankful for that.

its his schtick.
he’s a complete Buzzkill McDickintheass on the internet because he doesnt have the stones to be one in real life… or just doesnt have friends to do it to. - MMArazorback

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I once did a report on Gen Pinochet in Peru. Some serious fucked up shit went on there

You know what, chris81203? You confuse and infuriate me. - James Brady (Ninjames)

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by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pinochet was Chilean

Fujimora was Peruvian. Neither was especially nice.

by Balrog on Jul 10, 2011 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah

Thanks, I’m drunk and my memory sucks anyway. But it was definitely Pinochet. All South american countries = South Mexico anyway :p

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by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

so you got a good grade i take it?

lol

Sig betting against The-gentle-way is like playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic weapon. The only thing he knows more about than fighting is pleasing women, and my girlfriend is thankful for that.

its his schtick.
he’s a complete Buzzkill McDickintheass on the internet because he doesnt have the stones to be one in real life… or just doesnt have friends to do it to. - MMArazorback

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2011 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Yes actually it just happens to have been a few years and many drugs and beers ago.

You know what, chris81203? You confuse and infuriate me. - James Brady (Ninjames)

Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher

by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just wondering where medeveil people even came up with torture techniques.

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by T.C. Engel on Jul 10, 2011 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

no Playstation Network

Sig betting against The-gentle-way is like playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic weapon. The only thing he knows more about than fighting is pleasing women, and my girlfriend is thankful for that.

its his schtick.
he’s a complete Buzzkill McDickintheass on the internet because he doesnt have the stones to be one in real life… or just doesnt have friends to do it to. - MMArazorback

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2011 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

So that’s what we have to look forward to the next time its down, huh? Fucking 4chan.

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jul 10, 2011 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Practice

You know what, chris81203? You confuse and infuriate me. - James Brady (Ninjames)

Most of the time I am a rather quiet fellow, who likes to read about Philosophy, Mathematics and History, but like most people I also have a deep appreciation of sex and violence... - John Danaher

by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've read that before...

‘Cause Cracked is awesome and I’ve read just about every article they put out. :)

And hopefully, the devices were fake, because it’s fucked up to think someone would actually put something like that together.

If they’re real though….damn. We’ve come a long way.

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jul 10, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check...

…and mate.

I remember hearing about that torture somewhere, but I can’t remember where. Homeboy that does the Saw flicks could learn a thing or two from these sick fucks, though.

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jul 10, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I accept.

"Rather than love, than money, than faith, than fame, than fairness... give me truth."
Chris McCandless A.K.A. Alexander Supertramp
1968-1992

by T.C. Engel on Jul 10, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

as much as I see your point, Kim couture has no right to be in the ring, she’s not an athlete, just a woman with the same last name as Randy. She’s playing with fire

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by liptondrift on Jul 10, 2011 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who are you to tell an individual what they have a right to do?

She has 3 wins in her professional MMA career.

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by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

ever hear about the many times Dana white said he wants Liddel to retire, sorry I guess you found mma & boxing lastnight

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by liptondrift on Jul 10, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be happy when you're banned

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by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody has a right to be in the ring.

Fighting is a privilege.

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by pdl on Jul 10, 2011 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you want to be overly technical...

she had a right to be in the ring that night.

"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift

by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

This opinion is very bad, horribly mis-informed and teetering on stupid.

Sig betting against The-gentle-way is like playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic weapon. The only thing he knows more about than fighting is pleasing women, and my girlfriend is thankful for that.

its his schtick.
he’s a complete Buzzkill McDickintheass on the internet because he doesnt have the stones to be one in real life… or just doesnt have friends to do it to. - MMArazorback

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not teetering...

at all.

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by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like he said his name was Len Cloivisto

No charges should be filed, but that was pretty disgusting and he should absolutely never be allowed to ref a fight ever again. It seems that it’s a pretty rare choke, but damn! Her whole body went limp, in perfect view of everyone who saw it.

It’s a damn shame, and hopefully Kim fully recovers and Len is banned from referee duties.

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jul 10, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Len Koivisto

A Boxing/MMA judge/referee from Alberta. Hopefully not any longer, at least from an MMA standpoint.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Len_Koivisto

by Manch1ld on Jul 10, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the correction.

I can’t say what kind of boxing ref he is, but MMA is definitely not that dude’s forte.

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by RearNakedChoker on Jul 10, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was nasty

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by Lanceinmypants on Jul 10, 2011 1:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I got 7 seconds

After second leg went limp. I didn’t read article first but came away with the same oh my god that ref almost let her die in there.

by Budiswiser on Jul 10, 2011 2:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I counted from the first leg, but either way really.

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by T.C. Engel on Jul 10, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing.

 That ref missed her legs going completely limp. Crazy. That hold should have been broke loose 4-5 seconds earlier. That ref should lose his license for that.

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by whardiek on Jul 10, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worst ref ever.

Holy shit she was out for a good 5-6 seconds before they were broken up. Fire that ref now.

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by tkotom on Jul 10, 2011 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

he needs to go to remedial reffing school or maybe just never ref again

that’s dangerous

by Django Z on Jul 10, 2011 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

ouch..

Glad im not a fan of wmma, she clearly shouldnt be in the cage

by elmojo on Jul 10, 2011 1:23 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That's why it was in a ring :p

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by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's not true

the ref just didn’t do their job

by Django Z on Jul 10, 2011 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

That could have been anyone

Could just as easily have been an RNC held far too long

by Cunny on Jul 10, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

That ref was pretty fucking terrible

but Kim didn’t even try to get out of that. It took her at least 5 seconds after she was in the submission to realize that her right arm was free. She really shouldn’t be fighting.

Oh and she should definitely change her name back to whatever the fuck it was before. It’s not cool to keep using your ex-husband’s name just because it’s well known.

by av1o3 on Jul 10, 2011 1:25 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Christine McVie might disagree.

by Beau Dure on Jul 10, 2011 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ridiculous

That such an awesome sub is horribly overshadowed by terrible reffing

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by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 1:29 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Couture turns up the intensity and makes wanderlei go hard in sparring, guys!

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by Discman2 on Jul 10, 2011 1:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

even worse, Randy Couture stands up with his lawyer & they both start clapping

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by liptondrift on Jul 10, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow that was scary.

It would be nice if the ref paid attention to what was going on.

by HaterSlayer on Jul 10, 2011 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

That's the worst part

HE WAS RIGHT FUCKING THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will hereby take back everything I ever said about Hot Tub and Tan Dan.

Until they do something else stupid but for now, Steve and Dan, you guys are okay by me.

Sig betting against The-gentle-way is like playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic weapon. The only thing he knows more about than fighting is pleasing women, and my girlfriend is thankful for that.

its his schtick.
he’s a complete Buzzkill McDickintheass on the internet because he doesnt have the stones to be one in real life… or just doesnt have friends to do it to. - MMArazorback

by Earl Montclair on Jul 10, 2011 1:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow

Shes out when the camera switches angles and her first leg goes limp, its between 9-10 seconds. Atrocious reffing.

by gtl2p2 on Jul 10, 2011 1:40 AM EDT reply actions  

im just wondering is Kim Couture keeping her ex-hubbie's last name...

so she can continue her so called “WMMA” career? Ive been wondering about that cuz they’ve split up long time ago.

anyways the ref almost made me popped my blood vessels… fucking horrible… smh

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by chopstickthugz on Jul 10, 2011 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

As to Kim Couture...

of course.

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by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

My Mom has been divorced from her ex-husband for more than 10 years yet she still uses the same last name. Kim might(Most likely) be using it to further her career but to imply that you or anyone else knows that is the only reason she keeps it is preposterous.

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by 40 Cal. on Jul 10, 2011 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're right.

"No person can disobey reason, without giving up his claim to be a rational creature." - Swift

by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

My aunt was very similar

Kept her ex’s last name for 10+ til she got remarried.

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by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mine too.

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jul 10, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was certainly gruesome. I think the ref was distracted, or from the angle he was standing at perhaps we was starring at something else. Either way that is awful reffing, and it’s not funny to see stuff like that happen.

I don’t think we should blame Kim’s talent on this one. That’s not to say she’s a top tier WMMA fighter, but this negligence has nothing to do with her level of skill in the cage or in the ring.

by goodbones on Jul 10, 2011 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

He was looking right at her, i don’t see him being distracted though, that was pretty disturbing to watch, its always these low budget events that you don’t want to be in because of the refs.

by mikeI981j on Jul 10, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it was definitely disturbing.

by goodbones on Jul 10, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even the commentators knew she was out and you could tell they got scared and a akward silence feel over them while the ref was just sitting there doing nothing while Kim’s body just laws limp . WOW

by Shocbomb on Jul 10, 2011 1:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Well Chip

You’re no longer the worst ref I’ve ever seen

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by Chris Hall on Jul 10, 2011 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

She was choked for about 10 seconds after going out.

She starts showing the first signs of going out (legs going limp) at about 2:08-2:09 (video time, not round time) and the ref stoped it at 2:18-2:19. He din´t even check her arm until about 2:16-2:17, which meant she was unconsious for eight or nine seconds before the ref even bothered checking if she was ok. He should have checked on her the second she started going limp from the scissor choke and then stoped the fight. The ref clearly looked like he was not quite sure what was going on and what he should do about it.

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by Igorstyle on Jul 10, 2011 4:33 AM EDT reply actions  

That ref should be banned for life.

Which commission oversaw that fight?

by KOQ24 on Jul 10, 2011 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

That fight was in Calgary.

Alberta doesn’t have a commission, so the cities regulate the sport themselves (this is how Edmonton can permit Pride rules while Calgary does not).

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by Llewdor on Jul 10, 2011 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was preparing to laugh a little at Kim Couture, and enjoy a rare submission, but that reffing just put a damper on the whole thing. At the very least he should have stopped it when both her legs went limp.. not a good scene.

by Horselover Fat on Jul 10, 2011 6:40 AM EDT reply actions  

You can hear the crowd yelling that she's out

And if someone hadn’t started banging on something metallic, it may have gone on longer. This is horrible.

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by Damon O. on Jul 10, 2011 7:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Those commentators....

….ooh fah just so amateur hour…..those clowns stopped just short of “keep it moving, nothing to see here”…….not one comment on the ref??

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by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Jul 10, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

A truly horrible stoppage.

This man should go back to pro-wrestling. Ten plus seconds late on the stoppage, the Hulk Hogan arm test, and then waving it off instead of even bothering to break the hold. Just wow…

by Empty Thoughts on Jul 10, 2011 7:52 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

While the ref clearly did not do his job properly, lets keeps in mind that it would take significantly longer than 10 seconds for a choke to cause real damage. So talk of charges or other very severe penalty’s is absurd.

Someone getting punched in the face multiple times after the fighter is already out is much worse than this, this just looks bad but no harm is done, while in the former situation harm is done.

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by Kefka on Jul 10, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Any science on no harm done?

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by sgiblin on Jul 10, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, that's simply not true

People have died from less

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by Damon O. on Jul 10, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, check KJ's comment below.

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by Damon O. on Jul 10, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad reffing

Sweet sub. Straight Head Scissors, and even though Couture went out I wouldn’t cross my legs that way. I’d personally have my top leg go in front and over the bottom, not behind and under. Better squeeze plus more difficult to defend.

by KJ Gould on Jul 10, 2011 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it was because of the position she was in, the sub just presented itself. Also nice to see the basic guard pass used in mma, like a number of other BJJ basic that something that is rarely seen. And nice Seoi Nage too. Good stuff.

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by Kefka on Jul 11, 2011 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know

how long a person’s brain can be deprived of oxygen before there’s a risk of permanent brain damage? Ten seconds certainly feels like a long time in the video, but how significant was the risk of serious injury created by this terrific reffing?

This comment is intended for entertainment purposes only. Any resemblence to the actual truth is entirely coincidental.

by JoshSBooks on Jul 10, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Around 3 minutes

The real issue is making sure they’re breathing and their heart’s pumping after the choke is let go. All refs should learn how to put fighters in the recovery / safety position after a fight ends by choke out or Knockout, remove the mouth guard and make sure the tongue isn’t obstructing the air way.

by KJ Gould on Jul 10, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't participate in MMA

but what possesses a fight to not tap when they are getting choked unconscious? Is it a macho thing?

by dbcb on Jul 10, 2011 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Sometimes

Sometimes they don’t realise how tight the choke is or how quick they’re going out. Sometimes they think about tapping but go out before they do. It’s really down to the referee that’s the whole point of having one.

by KJ Gould on Jul 10, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes you just don't feel yourself going out

I’ve been choked out a few times in practice over the years, and every time it was because I didn’t “feel” the choke taking effect. I just thought I was fighting the choke and hanging in there, and next thing I knew I was waking up on the floor.

"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by in the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito Ortiz

by CasualMMAFan on Jul 10, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIRE THAT REF AND BAN HIM FOR LIFE. Wow… just wow. What was he doing in there, watching a soccer match?

If heavyweight isn't the toughest division in the UFC, then why doesn't someone that can kick their asses move to it? They don’t even have to cut weight!!

by crizzy on Jul 10, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm shocked no one has commented on how atrocious Kim's striking continues to be.

I’m more nervous she’ll have brain damage from getting her bell rung. Her first fight brought her like 3 broken bones in her face within the first minute of the fight. Her jaw was literally in pieces and she still can’t keep her hands up!

As soon as she came out for this fight, she charged the center, then stood there tentatively, a bit too high, kept her hands low, and was not even remotely aggressive. She didn’t even really swing.

It looked like the first 22+ minutes of Chael vs. A. Silva (/zing!).

The dude abides.

by wrxdonkey on Jul 10, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess is that he was looking at her eyes

trying to see if they were still alert, and that’s why he missed all the other signs. Either way a horrible job by any means.

by Balrog on Jul 10, 2011 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

creepy

If Kim is smart she’ll ride this for what she can, because the whole ultimate fighting thing isn’t happening. But her name could draw attention to sucky reffing.

by Ari LeVaux on Jul 10, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Sheila Bird… that’s like ‘Woman Woman’ in Aussie & Brit-speak.

and yeah… shitty ref.

I was one of the authors of the Port Huron Statement.

by Grappo on Jul 10, 2011 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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