Dana White Issues Public Statement Regarding Joe Rogan
by Fraser Coffeen on Jun 6, 2011 3:31 PM EDT
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UFC President Dana White has spoken up regarding the recent comments from announcer Joe Rogan. Through UFC.com, White issued the following statement:
Joe Rogan recently made an offensive statement reflecting a personal opinion that does not represent the UFC in any way. I have addressed this directly with Joe.
That is the entirety of White's statement.
Rogan came under fire last week for a negative slur towards Yahoo! Sports reporter Maggie Hendricks posted on the Underground. He later issued a public apology to Hendricks. Over the weekend, Kevin Iole at Yahoo! Sports had this to say regarding the situation:
Rogan's words were extraordinarily inappropriate, particularly as the very public mouthpiece of a billion-dollar company. The UFC needed to make a strong, public condemnation of Jackson's behavior and Rogan's choice of words, but has thus far failed to do so.
Instead, late Thursday UFC spokeswoman Caren Bell privately called Hendricks and issued an apology. And while it is commendable that the UFC offered any kind of apology at all, it was made privately at a time when Hendricks was under heavy siege publicly because she stood up for what was right. A public apology would have meant more and carried far more weight.
With today's statement, White and the UFC have attempted to distance themselves from Rogan's words, but have still not issued the public apology Iole calls for.
Other media outlets have begun to pick up the story, including Norm Clarke at the Las Vegas Review Journal, who has called for Rogan to be fired as a result of his comments.
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"an offensive statement reflecting a personal opinion that does not represent the UFC in any way"
Oh really….couldnt get much ‘textbook’ than that.
Reminds me of this...
“The FanPosts are solely the subjective opinions of Bloody Elbow readers and do not necessarily reflect the views of Bloody Elbow editors or staff.”
GSP - A machine designed specifically to stop Jon Fitch from ever becoming champion.
Except we don’t employ the people who write fan posts.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Jun 6, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I didn't mean it in a negative way...
Most disclaimers are pretty standard, nothing wrong with that.
If you were ever to employ someone who makes fanposts, you would need to hunt down sexysassytrishammafan ASAP.
GSP - A machine designed specifically to stop Jon Fitch from ever becoming champion.
No, but...
your employees write in the comment sections according to a different professional standard than the one which is adhered to on the front page. None of the staff have (that I’ve seen) have ever used any insensitive language on a racial, gender or orientation basis (an important distinction), but I have seen staff rip commenters pretty viciously at times.
The scope is different, but would you agree that the differing expectations of Rogan on a UFC broadcast vs, the UG is comparable to those of BE staff on the front page vs. the comment sections?
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
by John Danaher's Hair on Jun 6, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Insensitive language was actually used by a high-up staff member, but an apology was given for the language, and we’ve moved on.
by Austin Martin on Jun 6, 2011 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
did you see my reply to you...
in the “mania-BE pool” post?
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
by John Danaher's Hair on Jun 6, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw it and appreciate it, but I think we both made the squad according to the names in the post- maybe MDH can confirm that
by Austin Martin on Jun 6, 2011 4:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh yeah...
nevermind then.
"This is blood for blood and by the gallon. These are the old days, the bad days, the all-or-nothing days. They’re back! There’s no choice left. And I’m ready for war."
by John Danaher's Hair on Jun 6, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
No
but my fanposts have always been such brilliant gems that I really should have been paid for them.
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same
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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 6, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Except we don’t employ the people who write fan posts.
No, but you do give them a platform to speak from. The UFC didn’t provide the platform from which Rogan spoke.
by Grease S. Pieces on Jun 6, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
"addressed this with joe"
means i high-fived him in the locker room
everything dana white says is a complete lie
by slantedwindows on Jun 6, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
A guy who works for the UFC said something on a forum named "The Underground"
As far as I’m concerned, that’s Rogan’s problem. Dana says that Rogan wasn’t speaking on behalf of the UFC, and that’s all Dana needs to do.
well...not just A guy who works for the UFC, but the 'voice' of the UFC.
by CVD on Jun 6, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Where besides these BE articles on this topic has Joe Rogan ever been called the “voice” of the UFC? A google search turns up tons on Bruce Buffer and Mike Goldberg having that title but cannot find anything about Rogan. Of course it is a completely meaningless fake title anyway. You may as well replace ‘the voice’ in these articles with ‘one of the UFC employees who as a pretty public position’.
You may as well replace ‘the voice’ in these articles with ‘one of the UFC employees who as a pretty public position’.
I think that’s pretty much what they mean.
And I do understand, and I’d prefer it if things like this didn’t happen, just because I know how the public will react. I just don’t think it’s on the UFC to do too much about what Rogan did on his free time. They hire him because lets face it, he’s one of if not THE best commentator in the game. When he starts messing up as a commentator, then the UFC needs to care. Until then, distance yourself from what he does on his personal time and move on; let Rogan deal with it.
they won't REALLY budge until the sponsors start dropping support.
and that’s not happening anytime soon. not only that, but given that this was on an internet forum and not on the job, or at an official capacity as a UFC employee, this will be dropped by the end of this week if not sooner.
by Victor Rodriguez on Jun 6, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if they did, there is no way in HELL they would get rid of Joe.
There is a term in Marketing called “Branding.” It’s why when I say ’Cheeseburger" you think of 1 of 3 names. When I say “Fried Chicken” you think of 1 name.
It’s why after 13 seasons, the TUF themesong is still the same, and the Gladiator theme that starts every UFC will be the same song for a LONG time.
The type of Branding they have achieved with Joe’s voice alone is worth 10 “Harley Davidson Prep circles”.
"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."
All of these forced public apologies need to stop.
They do NOTHING. If he meant what he said, then why should he have to apologize.
I hate when any athlete does something stupid they force them to make an apology no one ever means it. And it doesn’t change what has happened.
What ever happened to sticking behind what you say.
Sheeeeeeeee-it
What do you mean they do nothing?
They allow the public to look at the situation and go “ok, so this really wasn’t appropriate, so much so that they had to issue a public apology”
by Body Triangle on Jun 6, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
an apology that you don’t mean is not an apology. its that simple.
Sheeeeeeeee-it
by Clay Davis on Jun 6, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that depends on the case.
when Rogan had that problem with Tommy Rios, he reconsidered his use of the word that caused the uproar. he may do the same now.
by Victor Rodriguez on Jun 6, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i’d hate to agree with him, but i kind of agree with him. i don’t use that word, but it does sound funny.
by Victor Rodriguez on Jun 6, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Every time this topic comes up
this comment gets insta-rec’d, what could that mean? hmmmm…..
"Serious sport is war minus the shooting."
George Orwell
Yup.
BE staff is beating a dead horse at this point.
by Krumpenstein on Jun 6, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why comment then?
Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
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to voice his ambivalence
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by The Lethal Haze on Jun 7, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
As someone not interested in the drama, this sounds like a slow news day, Rogan saying something that wasn’t PC, and a bunch of web folks I haven’t heard of before trying to get some hits on their websites. It’s boring. I hate it when a media personality says something untoward, and the rest jump on them, trying to get them fired. For what? To get a UFC announcer fired?
"Very broken in his right hand is Martin Kampmann"
"This is the internet: you either have soul-stopping power or you’re a pillow-fisted pansy. There is no middle ground." - woomikee
Where on earth have you been? Head in the sand?
by bigstupidsmile on Jun 6, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
he's been in the outlands
When I'm on the mic it goes down, CINTRON
-Joell Ortiz
by The Lethal Haze on Jun 6, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
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Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
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Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark
"Norm Clarke at the Las Vegas Review Journal, who has called for Rogan to be fired as a result of his comments."
If Rogan(IMO-one of the best commentators in MMA) is fired for something this cunty, how the hell does Dana still have a job?
"Maybe, you throw some pepper at him."
-Bas Rutten
by mmazing on Jun 6, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
When he does something like this on the job, fine.
Until then, no. His job is to be a commentator, he does a great job of that, he gets to stay.
by Shaun32887 on Jun 6, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he's a two-bit Vegas gossip columnist.
real authority, huh?
by Victor Rodriguez on Jun 6, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He used to star in that little buccaneer show at the old Treasure Island. Aaaaaaargh
Life is hard....get a fucking helmet.
i seriously cannot tell if you're being truthful or you're just fucking with me right now.
by Victor Rodriguez on Jun 6, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus
that went right over my stupid head.
by Victor Rodriguez on Jun 6, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And he just tweeted Norms Number.
I love Joe.
"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."
Who the fuck reads Clarke enough to know that?
by sadface on Jun 7, 2011 5:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
drawp does, apparantly
When I'm on the mic it goes down, CINTRON
-Joell Ortiz
by The Lethal Haze on Jun 7, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
What a cunty statement by Dana White
kidding, kidding
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Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who -- Jay-Z
by thetakeover on Jun 6, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
If Rogan just called her "A dumb fucking bitch"
none of this would have happened.
actually it would have
since bitch is female related as well
i nominate “asshole”. gender neutral, offensive to everyone.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 6, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a joke
because that’s what Dana called Loretta Hunt.
o thats right
i remember the ‘fag’ line, not that one.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 6, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
actually it would have
since bitch is female related as well
and people are hyper sensitive about bullshit.
fixed =D
by wrxdonkey on Jun 6, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rest easy knowing world famous sensitivity trainer Dana White is personally guiding Rogan through this challenging ordeal.
by smoogy2 on Jun 6, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
hendricks should now THANK Rogan
For making her shitty writing relevant in the blogosphere, and giving her some publicity
by Austin Martin on Jun 6, 2011 3:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 10 recs
I hope you’re joking amadeus. If not, it’s a shame that people really feel this way.
by castleeb on Jun 6, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nope.
But there’s a difference between calling her a shitty journalist and a shitty female journalist.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"Ellismania is, along with the black President, a symbol of the future." - Mayhem Miller
Tweeter!
Go reread the statement
he doesnt call her a shitty female journalist. Yes he says her twice in refrence to her writing and giving her publicity but the word his would be there if we were talking about a male journalist.
Rogan uses the word "cunty".
Which refers (in a negative manner) to parts of the female journalist. Whether or not he meant it as female-specific insult, it was a poor choice of words on his part.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"Ellismania is, along with the black President, a symbol of the future." - Mayhem Miller
Tweeter!
Ah.
I was responding to you – “So because Joe Rogan called her c*nty we have to like her writing?”
Misunderstanding, I guess.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"Ellismania is, along with the black President, a symbol of the future." - Mayhem Miller
Tweeter!
Maybe in the 90's this was the case.
Nobody gets to own words anymore.
Except that one word. I’m not gonna say it, but y’knowumsayin.
"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."
And that’s exactly where Rogan fucked up. I’m half serious, but truthfully the publicity Maggie gets is the end result considering what Rogan said isn’t even all that offensive. He just needs to realize the blowback that happens when the fairer sex is targeted, and choose his language a bit more carefully
by Austin Martin on Jun 6, 2011 4:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No not at all.
But it’s awfully disrespectful to state that Hendricks so pathetic that she’s lucky that Joe Rogan would grace her with insults. I don’t know a writer that bad.
by castleeb on Jun 6, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I started thinking about this the other day...
If Rampage hadn’t done what he did, and Rogan hadn’t made those comments about Hendricks, and bloggers everywhere hadn’t shit themselves over this, I wouldn’t have a clue who Maggie Hendricks is.
"Maybe, you throw some pepper at him."
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I don't think you realize how many people read Yahoo.
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I think Rogan is an idiot for not choosing his words more carefully and the public apology was probably necessary, but the reality and end result of this situation is that her exposure as a writers is increased, for something that seems remarkably tame
by Austin Martin on Jun 6, 2011 4:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The biggest problem with Dana White condemning Joe Rogan’s statement is that if you took the name off it, Rogan’s statement could easily pass for one by…. Dana White.
by Brendan Welsh-Balliett on Jun 6, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
I imagine it went like this.
“Hey Joe, DFW here. Listen, I know women are cunts and I totally get you, I’d love to call all those fucking cunts cunts all the time in public too. Like I did with that bitch Loretta Hunt, remember? That was funny. Anyway, listen man, I’m totally with you but these fucking pussies are so sensitive when we call them faggots or whatever, so just keep that shit on the DL, ok? We gotta stay professional up in this motherfuckin’ multimillion business enterprise, bitch. Don’t get too high before commentary tonight.”
by gzl5000 on Jun 6, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 15 recs
Fixed.
"Hey Joe, DFW here. Listen, I know women are cunts and I totally get you, I’d love to call all those fucking cunts cunts all the time in public too. Like I did with that bitch Loretta Hunt, remember? That was funny. Anyway, listen man, I’m totally with you but these fucking pussies are so sensitive when we call them faggots or whatever, so just keep that shit on the DL, ok? At the end of the day, we gotta stay professional up in this motherfuckin’ multimillion business enterprise to stay in the mix with other sports, bitch. Don’t get too high before commentary tonight."
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"Ellismania is, along with the black President, a symbol of the future." - Mayhem Miller
Tweeter!
by alicks on Jun 6, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Look, here’s the thing about these public embarrassments: you never know. Anything can happen.
by smoogy2 on Jun 6, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rogan's not getting fired or even suspended
Rogan isn’t replaceable at this point. He’s too beloved by the fanbase, and although both he and Goldberg get criticised they’re still the best announce team in MMA as it stands largely because of the volume of fights they’ve done together to get as good as they have. UFC have done nothing to build up another announcer or announce team to take over and they know there’d be outcry and a loss in value of the product should they be the ones to get rid of Rogan as opposed to Rogan leaving on his own terms.
The best UFC can do is to tell Rogan to think twice when posting in a public forum that’s not his website’s (approved membership is required) or his podcasts.
The UFC makes Rogan, not the other way around
Joe is out the day his presence sinks or threatens a major payday for the UFC. It’s the WWE model, nobody is indispensable.
Never approach a vast undertaking with a half-vast plan.
having someone who actually knows what the fuck their talking about helps.
Some times Goldberg just shouts shit out and Rogan is there to really teach people about what’s going on.
Soon as my flow starts, I compose art like the ghost of Mozart
Even though they all say that they're real, I know that most aren't
Boy you think you're clever don't you, girl you think you're so smart
Come with me to another side of the world... so cold and so dark
Sorry, I missed it
Who are these people?
"Very broken in his right hand is Martin Kampmann"
"This is the internet: you either have soul-stopping power or you’re a pillow-fisted pansy. There is no middle ground." - woomikee
Loretta Hunt is on the right. I don’t get the “irony,” though. Looks like a Strikeforce event from the credential.
Pakilestine?
"I am very confident this fight can go either way"
by SpL on Jun 7, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm assuming one of these women
is a “fucking dumb bitch”
Dana called loretta hunt the same word, and many other things
Yet , now he’s a moral coach all of a sudden.
OK, I give up
Who’s on the left? I feel like I should know her, but I don’t.
Don’t know her either, but she’s cage side photographing every fight I’ve ever been to that wasn’t a tiny local show. It’s either her or her doppleganger… she’s a cutie in person if that’s her.
Esther Lin?
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"Ellismania is, along with the black President, a symbol of the future." - Mayhem Miller
Tweeter!
Thought that was her name, wasn’t sure. I don’t mind her so much.
Loretta Hunt is missing some chromosomes. I’m no fan of her journalistic aptitude.
Eh, it's okay. All us Asians look the same.
Actually, I have no idea who that is, I was completely guessing.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"Ellismania is, along with the black President, a symbol of the future." - Mayhem Miller
Tweeter!
There’s another Asian photographer who’s at a lot of shows (including the TUF finale on Saturday), but I don’t think this is her, either. But again, I’m terrible with faces. I go to soccer locker rooms and see a bunch of dudes with identical haircuts, and I’m on the verge of asking them to put their jerseys back on so I can figure out who I’m trying to interview.
I'm just fucking with you.
I couldn’t pick Esther Lin out of a lineup. I’m not even really sure she’s Asian, I’m just guessing based on the name.
Plus, I’m trying to kill time ‘cause I don’t get out of work for another 48 minutes.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"Ellismania is, along with the black President, a symbol of the future." - Mayhem Miller
Tweeter!
What's really weird is that the other one (not Loretta Hunt) isn't Maggie Hendricks.
But I suppose it’s ironic of Dana to say he told Joe Rogan how to talk about female personalites, lol.
judging from the cup size
i think that’s tracy lee (the other female asian photographer for mma).
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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 6, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Tracy Lee has absurdly fake breasts and spends her time on the UG discussing Tapout’s ash-stealing case.
BOOSH
Can we get a link to where Clarke calls for Rogan’s job? All I can find is him saying “lets hope they had a chat about cleaning up his act… or clearing out his desk.” Which is far from calling for the man’s job.
It’s also incredibly amusing the guy’s blog looks to be 20% sports, 30% celeb gossip and 50% chicks in bikinis.
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
Later in the blog (and I guess this is just a blog post we’re talking about rather than something on the actual newspaper’s site) Clarke clarifies:
Rogan… added fuel to the fire by referring to Hendricks with an obscenity that should have had him fired, fined or suspended.
I thought we did away with intentionally misrepresenting quotes when Snowden left town!
Getting bent out of shape over a fight promoter lying is like getting upset that a hooker won't kiss you. It betrays a deep lack of understanding of the nature of the profession.
the Las Vegas Review Journal
sues sites that quote or link to them. Limits our options.
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that is a pretty cunty thing to do
I dearly hope cunty enters the vernacular of the MMA internet.
Clay Guida ensured that I’m now & forever wrxdonkey’s bitch.
by Urijah Bieber on Jun 6, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna vote no on that.
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Why
Clay Guida ensured he is now and forever the worlds most exciting and active boring fighter.
by Urijah Bieber on Jun 8, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Partially inaccurate article, according to Rogan himself:
From Norm’s post:
Rogan — who recently used a homophobic slur while referring to a UFC fighter…
And from Rogan’s twitter:
Excuse me @Norm_Clarke Norm, your article is inaccurate. I’ve never used a homophobic slur talking about a UFC fighter. Correct that.
This being in reference to Norm Clarke's LVRJ article
meant to reply up there. oops.
I like Rogan’s UFC commentary, dislike his comedy and online rants, but really like his willingness to engage people who write about him. Many writers come across as preachy, and it is nice to see them called on it once and a while.
"Very broken in his right hand is Martin Kampmann"
"This is the internet: you either have soul-stopping power or you’re a pillow-fisted pansy. There is no middle ground." - woomikee
Rogan
Joe is Joe. You can’t expect him to be different than he is.
Sure you can.
Or you can at least expect him to act like it, sometimes, in public.
"So even though it’s the gayest sport ever, MMA is still the best sport ever. I love my gay sport." - Wrestling Uber Alles
"Ellismania is, along with the black President, a symbol of the future." - Mayhem Miller
Tweeter!
Why can't we expect him to be different?
Why must it be accepted that Rogan’s going to bring MMA to the front line of whatever war he’s fighting against taboo language or feminism or whatever-who-cares? He’s the second-most prominent employee of a company that equals mixed martial arts. Why drag all of MMA into that war with him? It doesn’t matter if he’s right — in what way is this beneficial (or even not detrimental) to the sport?
Enough of this mushy "oh I'm sorry" bullshit
He’s not sorry. Shut the fuck up and live with it, he gave you more publicity than you ever would have gotten in your crappy career. Many of the readers here would kill for the publicity this got you.
Let the fighters fight, let the referees ref, but dear God, don't let the judges judge.
WAIT WAIT WAIT
So some news person what’s Rogan to be fired for saying dumb stuff? I wonder what their opinion on Rampage should be /eye roll
From that Norm guy's article:
When another female reporter, Maggie Hendricks of Yahoo! Sports, all but called for a boycott of Jackson, Rogan — who recently used a homophobic slur while referring to a UFC fighter — added fuel to the fire by referring to Hendricks with an obscenity that should have had him fired, fined or suspended.
Homophobic slur? What?
GSP - A machine designed specifically to stop Jon Fitch from ever becoming champion.
I assume the guy
got Tomas Rios confused for a UFC fighter. Rogan did get in trouble for using homophobic slurs just not in reference to fighters.
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 6, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, that makes sense.
Somehow I’d forgotten about that one.
GSP - A machine designed specifically to stop Jon Fitch from ever becoming champion.
Now Rogan is enticing his twitter followers to phone this writer’s publicly-listed phone number and harass him. I’m sure this will end well.
Dude
if you would just hop in this here isolation chamber and huff some vaporized kush, you would see how funny it is to harass people.
BOOSH
Karyn Bryant's husband goes off on a fan and KEvin Iole of Yahoo SPorts
http://www.facebook.com/dwizzlesworld#!/dwizzlesworld/posts/206077466101331
Karyn Bryant’s husband goes off on some fans and others like Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports who bash her wife for the video with Rampage.
That is almost exactly how I picture Dana's fantasies
Vince did roids, kept his name in front, and eventually climbed into the cage.
Dana juices, keeps his name in front…eventually will he try to climb into the octagon?
BOOSH
Does the “boxing” thing against Tito count? I mean, he did produce a 1 hour special on how Dana White’s Not Afraid Of Anyone, presented by Spike TV.
Yeah it counts
He had to learn to box when he was dealing with the Boston Mafia every day. Straight thuggin’, yo.
BOOSH
rogan should be punished
with a couple of events, bring the voice or other dude in, and people would notice he’s not the consensus no·1 commentator
Im a voice fan as well.
Just needs to tone down the anecdotes.
His actual calling and knowledge is first class.
Agreed! Big Voice fan here as well.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Jun 6, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone really believe Dana or the UFC had anything but a light hearted conversation about not pissing off "cunty" "bitches"
I wonder what they called that chick while laughing together in private.
Clay Guida ensured that I’m now & forever wrxdonkey’s bitch.
I wonder if people really think this kind of stuff harms the sport though
If you’re down for cage fighting, the word “cunt” is hardly offensive. This type of mild controversy might even be good for the UFC. This ain’t the fucking PGA yo.
Clay Guida ensured that I’m now & forever wrxdonkey’s bitch.
Word up Son!
And where the fuck have you been?
"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere."
Don't generalize the audience
If it’s never going to be more than a niche sport for knuckleheads who haven’t grown up, what happens to the sport when the knuckleheads grow up?
what happens to the sport when the knuckleheads grow up?
We feel embarrassed to admit we watch it in real life and have repeated facepalms when reading the comments of younger fans in threads like this.
by The Ghost of Spike Owen on Jun 6, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
There will never be a lack of "Knuckleheads"
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I view MMA differently than other sports
MMA is like a sports version Eminem or Metallica, plenty of “grown up fans” and all that, but controversy when these artists were new didn’t harm, it helped. Like I said in another thread, if James Heitfield called some blond on the View a cunt to her face, it aint exactly hurting Metallica’s record sales. Would it hurt Nicklebacks? Sure. Different products. Funny thing is, some of the same people may be fans of both, but the mentality they approach each product with is different.
And MMA being knucklehead free? The day that happens is the day everyone hold hands at the Metallica concert.
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 6, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I know plenty of Metallica fans who would have a serious problem with Hetfield doing that.
I know plenty of Nickelback fans who … no, wait, I don’t know any Nickelback fans. (Though “Rockstar” is a fun video.)
Maybe...
but only because Metallica became Nickelback. Still, aggressive music artists like this ultimately only benefit from controversy like that. Would be no different if that happened.
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 6, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The Metallica of 1985 disagrees
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 8, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
More fans = more $ = more fighters = more fights = better fights
Even if you don’t accept the idea that MMA needs to grow from a financial survival standpoint, what’s the point of defending people who drag the whole sport into their personal “wars” or whatever at the expense of more fans?
missing the point
people who are hard wired to really really like elbows to the face of a grounded opponent likely aint offended by calling some snooty reporter cunty. Not buying it at all. Comparisons to other sports don’t make sense. A few whiney internet hardcores do not reflect the opinion of the casual MMA fan. Mike Tyson was boxing’s biggest draw and this motherfucker was as controversial as it gets, and until Vince’s wife wanted to play politics, did you see how vulgar WWE was?
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 6, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
The point is
Why do you want to restrict the fanbase to only people who are “hard wired to really really like elbows to the face of a grounded opponent”? Could any amount of controversy have saved boxing and WWE from going by the wayside like they did?
If the cost is that some people are alienated from MMA because it isn’t perceived as legitimate, is there any benefit that outweighs that?
The violence inherent in the UFC makes this a different ballgame
This is an edgy sport. Controversy brings in more eye balls than it chases away to shit like this. Why do you think Eminem went after gays and celebrities? Hurt his sales? No. MMA isn’t Eminem, but it aint golf or baseball either. The violence sets it apart. Calling cunts cunts doesn’t hurt MMA and will never hurt MMA.
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 6, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Metallica was a poor example.
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The better athletes = a better sport thing again eh
I am so fucking tired of hearing that. As if sanitizing the sport leads to that inherently anyway but even if it did, I am in no rush to turn MMA into a mainstream sport where the athletes are all unapproachable dickfucks concerned with millions of dollars and have no time for fans and have to watch every step lest they piss of some ESPN asshole. This is a brutally violent sport, crass language and attitude are what will bring the audience to this sport in today’s culture. I am so not convinced that people will spend money on this shit for the violence but not do so because of goofy fighter antics. Makes no sense when just thought about realistically, much less in the context of wrestling and boxing.
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Is that true?
Do people like MMA because it’s crass, vulgar, and its brass doesn’t care about offending anyone? Or do people like it because the fights are fun to watch? And will the fights be less fun to watch if the sport goes legitimate?
All people? No. But you get my point. And that point is fights are fun to watch to people who likely aren’t offended by words like cunty or a little motorboat action. That shit drives UP ratings. Look how nasty the Sonnen and Silva and Rashad and Rampage vitriol got. Both fights were the best selling fights of all four fighters UFC careers if I am not mistaken. The quasi-racial and nasty over tones in both fights drove the needle. Dana White never used to be DANA MOTHER FUCKING WHITE BITCH. Once he got in the groove of that character, he became Jim Rome’s “Best interview in all of sports”.
MMA aint Tennis bro. But then again, controversial shit has been used to sell tennis for years. Billie Jean King and the battle of the sexes, and then there was this guy
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Does it have to be that way?
Should MMA explicitly market itself to people who aren’t offended by that? I don’t think it should because I don’t want it to be a niche sport.
Also, Joe Rogan doesn’t fight in the UFC. Nobody’s gonna buy the next PPV because they might hear Rogan call Maggie Hendricks a cunt during the card. Feuds between actual players of sports drive ratings — more people aren’t going to watch the Finals tomorrow night because of something Jeff Van Gundy said about Doris Burke. If that were true, then David Stern wouldn’t be kissing the media’s ass all the time. If that’s one of the things you hate about mainstream sports, then I guess you’re happy with MMA’s current share of the market. But I’d prefer the sport to be widely popular than to preserve the “rawness” of the personalities or whatever because, in the end, that won’t affect the actual fights.
Mma fan persecution complex
The sport is already breaking into the mainstream and at a rate unprecedented in sports history. It’s edgy nature is so big part of the appeal. No need to boring it up in the hopes it takes over ESPN. Doing so takes the edge off and ergo casual appeal.
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 6, 2011 10:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really?
Its appeal is that it’s a combat sport that’s not as boring as boxing. It’s “edgy” because the fights are different and interesting — see the Showtime kick, which played heavier with casual fans than anything Chael Sonnen’s ever done — not because the people that work for the UFC don’t care about offending anybody.
Like I said earlier, nothing that changes the behavior of the UFC brass is going to affect how interesting the fights are. The product, not the WWE stuff, is what is going to attract more fans. If you don’t consider that a legitimate goal, then fine: keep your Frank Mir v. Big Country co-main event. If you do, then it shouldn’t be hard to weigh the cost/benefit analysis of defending a guy who seriously insulted a member of one of the biggest online sports sites in the world v. doing some actual damage control (and no, I don’t mean firing Joe Rogan).
Youre kind of using straw men here
There is a reason Dana cultivated his persona. “you wanna be a fucking fighter” If you take away the sports entertainment aspects that this far have built the sport then be ready to shut the hell up when Fitch gets his title shots time and time again and when Rashad and Clay stifle in main events. Since we’re going vanilla sports then we take everything that goes with it. Youll argue these arent related but they absolutely are. Cage fighting should stay cage fighting. Inyaface.
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 7, 2011 2:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fear Factor making a comeback
on the off chance Rogan flips out or Dana was forced to fire or suspend him, looks like he may have some other options.
This simply doesn't matter
It was a stupid thing to say, but this comment makes no difference in the future of the UFC. Marv Albert is still calling the NBA. Elliott Spitzer has his own show on CNN. It just doesn’t matter.
Firing Joe Rogan would be a massive mistake, and it won’t happen.
I couldn't care any less about this...
Maggie Hendrix is shitty journalist, so I’m just going to keep ignoring her.
Joe should have done the same, but I’m not concerned that he didn’t. It’s not really my business and if the UFC isn’t concerned with it, let them suffer whatever consequences there might be.
I’m not going to waste any time defending a shitty journalist regardless of what mean things someone might have said about her.
by IRH on Jun 6, 2011 10:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If any proof was needed to support the popular notion that
quite a lot of MMA fans are sexist and inconsiderate in their opinions about offensive remarks involving women in MMA, look no further than the comments section of this article.
I get the comments that say the apology seemed contrived and should not have been made in the first place as it was insincere.
I also get the comments that the UFC is not responsible 24/7 for what Joe Rogan does in his personal life. Hence their statement which distanced themselves from Rogan’s remarks instead of apologizing for it.
But what I do not get is the hate for Hendricks – how she got free publicity and arguments that Rogan did nothing wrong at all.
Grow up will you? With behaviour like this, you don’t DESERVE to be at par with other professional mainstream sports.
Go to any random hockey or football forum
Stop acting like this is a barbarism unique to mma. Jen Sterger ring a bell? This woman opened her self up to this for telling Bryant how she should feel about a harmless thing she was cool with and in on. She was wrong and should keep her mouth shut. Mma fans are pretty sexist though but I save my preaching for assholes who make inappropriate comments about female fighters or wmma.
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 7, 2011 2:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My point stands
What Rogan did was uncalled for. There is NO defending that whatsoever. If you think otherwise, I respect your opinrion, but it only reiterates my point.
Rogan is free to call a grand standing posturing and wrong journalist a cunt on his own time the same as I am free to say silly statements of victory such as yours ridiculous
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 7, 2011 6:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are ridiculous rather
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 7, 2011 6:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what is so wrong about what Maggie said?
Rampage’s history of sexually harassing female reporters and physically assaulting male reporters (he punch Steve Cofield in the nuts) isn’t something reporters should have to put up with.
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but she was telling a reporter who didn't mind it how to feel/act
Rampage’s routine is stupid though ultimately.
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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 7, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
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