USAT/SBN June 2011 MMA Consensus Rankings: Heavyweight
by Richard Wade on Jun 30, 2011 11:44 AM EDT
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| Rank | Fighter | % | Promotion | Last Rank |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Cain Velasquez | 99 | UFC | 1 |
| 2 | Junior dos Santos | 95 | UFC | 3 |
| 3 | Alistair Overeem | 90 | Strikeforce | 7 |
| 4 | Brock Lesnar | 86 | UFC | 4 |
| 5 | Fabricio Werdum | 81 | Strikeforce | 2 |
| 6 | Antonio Silva | 80 | Strikeforce | 5 |
| 7 | Frank Mir | 74 | UFC | 8 |
| 8 | Shane Carwin | 72 | UFC | 6 |
| 9 | Fedor Emelianenko | 68 | M-1 Global / Strikeforce | 9 |
| 10 | Josh Barnett | 48 | Strikeforce | 13 |
| 11 | Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira | 47 | UFC | 10 |
| 12 | Brendan Schaub | 43 | UFC | 11 |
| 13 | Roy Nelson | 33 | UFC | 12 |
| 14 | Sergei Kharitonov | 31 | Strikeforce | 14 |
| 15 | Cheick Kongo | 29 | UFC | 17 |
| 16 | Mike Russow | 26 | UFC | 20 |
| 17 | Travis Browne | 25 | UFC | 23 |
| 18 | Brett Rogers | 25 | Strikeforce | 15 |
| 19 | Cole Konrad | 24 | Bellator | 18 |
| 20 | Ben Rothwell | 24 | UFC | 16 |
| 21 | Daniel Cormier | 22 | Strikeforce | 33 |
| 22 | Pedro Rizzo | 19 | Impact FC | 19 |
| 23 | Matt Mitrione | 19 | UFC | 22 |
| 24 | Stefan Struve | 19 | UFC | 21 |
| 25 | Gabriel Gonzaga | 17 | MMAX | 24 |
UFC 130 featured two fights between top 25 heavyweights as #17 Travis Browne flattened #24 Stefan Struve and #7 Frank Mir battered #13 Roy Nelson.
#2 Junior dos Santos became the #1 contender after taking a dominant unanimous decision over #8 Shane Carwin in the main event of UFC 131.
#23 Matt Mitrione actually fell a spot in the rankings after devastating unranked Christian Morecraft at UFC Live this past Sunday.#15 Cheick Kongo, however, moved up two with his incredible comeback victory over unranked Pat Barry.
Based on the premise that all MMA rankings are subjective but that it’s still useful and informative to know who the online MMA community as a whole ranks as the best fighters in MMA, we collect and average the rankings of the top MMA websites to produce our consensus rankings. We compile the top MMA rankings from each of our sources and award 25 points for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. This formula ensures that each ranking site awards the same number of total points regardless of how many fighters they choose to rank. Each fighter’s total is divided by the number of possible points to determine their standing in the Consensus Rankings.
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I ranked Matt Mitrione at 15
Come at me bros!
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by MattParker117 on Jun 29, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
meathead is pretty underrated if you ask me
I’d like to see him against a good wrestler, but so far he’s embarrassed pretty much everyone he’s faced.
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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 29, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is his competition
All unranked. Russow would be a nice test.
Came to say
I’d like to see 22 HW’s better than Meathead.
I think he’d KO Mir and Roy, and would be way too fast for Shane Carwin to get anything going.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
that's crazy
his two real wins in mma are over joey beltran and christian morecraft. he’s not far removed from tapping to mcsweeney.
sure he has potential, and you’re entitled to your opinion, but i hope you recognize why people might not share it.
Of course
But until they fight, we won’t know.
I can say that neither Frank nor Roy has the speed, power or agility Matt does. If that fight doesn’t hit they mat quickly, one of them would.
Carwin is so much slower and smaller than Matt, I don’t see him being able to do much.
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Wow
Do you see Mitrione beating all three of those guys? If so, you think he’s a top 10 HW? Based on him beating a bunch of unranked guys?
things get real murky in HW
after the top tier of guys, and a few others guys who are still relevant and have good resumes (like say mir).
i have a tough time understanding why rogers is ranked ahead of mitrione, for instance.
on the other hand – mitrione just hasn’t beaten anyone yet. tim hague? marcus davis? kimbo slice?
he will come up in the rankings pretty quick if he gets a real fight next time and wins it.
Its understandable
Without having faced good competition, how do we really know, right?
On the other hand, Alistair is ranked at 3.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
He beat Werdum and Rogers
Guys both ranked in the top 10 at the time he beat them. Plus he has a long history of fighting quality opponents in Pride. And although of limited applicability, he excelled in K-1, which is all more than we can say for Mitrione’s track record.
I'm not comparing Matt to Alistair
I’m just saying that he hasn’t proven to be a top 3 HW IMO.
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Agree.
The Werdum fight was probably the most painful fight i have had the displeasure to watch.
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some of these guys are just hard to rank period
ben rothwell? josh barnett? sergei kharitonov? WHO FUCKING KNOWS.
even someone like overeem – is he really #3? did that shitshow against werdum really anything up?
Exactly
They actually have to fight in order to know anything.
Both Mir and Schaub had compeitive fights with CroCop before KO’ing him.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
well
so did JDS.
Cro Cop and Mitrione would actually not be a bad fight at this point, if Cro Cop is going to keep fighting.
Cro Cop lost every round before tapping against JDS
and he was a better Cro Cop than the one that faced Schaub and Mir.
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by Dave Strummer on Jun 30, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And like you said
Did we really see the #3 HW in the world against Frabricio?
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lol, I love it!
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by SentientAndroid on Jun 30, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
The UFC should have an eight man tourney of Kongo, Rothwell, Brown, Mitrione, Struve, Barry, Schaub, and Herman.
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by Tim Bernier on Jun 29, 2011 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
- contender for a #1 contender fight.
by MS_Dos_Santos on Jun 30, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The best of the worst, of course.
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by Tim Bernier on Jun 30, 2011 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I want Struve vs. Berry
It would be so comically disproportionate. It was already hilarious when nelson fought him…it was like dwarf vs. elf :::::pushes glasses up as they were sliding down my nose:::::
by Body Triangle on Jun 30, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah Overeem
This should be fun
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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 29, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
what dix
fuck you photobucket and GiS. Tinypic ftw
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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 29, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The Water Cold!
Goldmember: A shmoke und a pancake. You know, a flapjack und a shigarette? No? Shigar und a waffle? No? Pipe und a crepe? No? Bong und a blintz? No? Well, then there ish no pleashing you.
well
he’s either top 5 or close to it if he’s on the list at all.
with his injury maybe he shouldn’t be on the list.
I was wondering the same thing
given that Rampage is now ranked higher than Evans, despite the head to head result, due to Evans’ inactivity…tough to see how Brock is still at 4. Do people really think he’s that much better than the rest? Personally, I thought that Carwin fight could have easily hone the other way. Granted, Carwin was juicing, but does anyone want to give Brock Lesnar the “clean fighter” boost? I don’t have that much faith.
For the record, I don’t think it’s crazy or anything…just wondering about the logic here.
by Jim America on Jun 30, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
You really think I was questioning the decision or something?
Brock was getting rocked up until he surprised the world by knowing how to do an arm triangle. He didn’t exactly severely outclass Carwin. Point is, if they fought ten times, who knows which way they go?
by Jim America on Jun 30, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
All we could go off is the one time and that one time Brock finished him. And I dont know about surprise the world, if anyone cared to know his coaches were Comprido and Paulsen they would have known Brock had learned plenty
My point is
that there’s more to the fight than the final outcome. Brock looked shook every time he got touched…as usual. He’d never shown sub skills before, so yeah it surprised most. Anyone really predict it?
This ignores my actual question by the way.
by Jim America on Jun 30, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I would no longer rank Brock
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
i would agree with you if i was sure that Brock wouldn't fight again, but there is still a chance that he will
If Brock isn’t ranked anymore then Big Nog shouldn’t either since he hasn’t fought in over a year
Brock might fight again
but he won’t be the same guy and if he is, he should have to prove it in the rankings again. Besides it’s not like he’ll be back fighting within a year IF he ever fights again at all.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 30, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i think you are assuming the worst
the surgery he just had effectively cures his condition. My dad had the exact same thing that brock had, and also had a piece of his large intestine that had ruptured and become infected taken out.
From what i understand brock’s surgery went fine, it wasn’t even invasive, i’m sure that they performed a laparoscopy so he doesn’t even have a huge scar in his stomach. After his gut heals the only difference will be that his diet will probably have to change, and his poops will probably be smaller.
My dad had it much worse, they caught the diverticulitis late, and by the type they discovered it, his large intestine had already ruptured so when they cut out the piece of large intestine they couldn’t re-attach it on the spot so he had to live with a colostomy bag for 5 months, and then had another surgery to re-attach both sides of his large intestine.
Brock’s situation isn’t nearly as bad, plus Brock is an elite athlete, and is around 18 years younger than my dad (who is fine by the way). I really doubt he won’t fight again.
My mom had it almost exactly like you describe for your dad, but after her resectioning she had problems absorbing some vitamins and certain nutrients properly, a problem that plagued her for the rest of her life.
Granted, Brock is a very different case, but it is far from certain that he is without ill effects going forward.
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by The American Ronin on Jul 1, 2011 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
i love how
roy nelson beats schaub
schuab beats gonzaga and cro cop, while roy nelson loses to JDS and Mir, and schaub is ranked higher than nelson.
i can't disagree too much with the top 15 guys, there are a few things i would change, but i have the same 15 guys
after that it gets a bit crazy. Mike MF’n Russow at 16? That’s crazy, he KOed a now overrated Duffe, and he won via doctor stoppage vs Madsen, i just don’t get how that doughy doughy man is considered better than the likes of Rothwell, Mitrione, Cole, Cormier and Brown.
I also would think that Brett Rogers would be closer to 25 seeing as how he has looked terrible in his last 3 strikeforce fights, and Arlovski isn’t even ranked anymore
this is a very very thin division
Rothwell hasn’t fought in so long a lot of panelists won’t rank him.
Mitrione’s relatively low placement confuses me a bit, but he doesn’t have many fights and no wins over ranked opponents.
Cole, same boat.
Re: Rogers it is a lot easier to climb the ranks than to drop out of them.
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 30, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Not for nothing but these rankings are damn good for the current mess in HW. Alistair, welcome to the top 5 bub.
by p123 on Jun 30, 2011 11:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
the future looks good for the UFC HW divison:
Cain Velasquez – 28 years old
Junior Dos Santos – 26 years old
Brendan Shaub – 28 years old
Travis Browne – 29 years old
Dave Herman – 26 years old
Stefan Struve – 23 years old
plus Meathead who is 32 years old, but is young in the sport of MMA
by darkotto23 on Jun 30, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm beginning to doubt
That Struve is actually going anywhere.
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by Drunken cutman on Jun 30, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
not if he keeps getting knocked out
with his knockouts, his brain isn’t really young…
Is Gonzaga actually still in the UFC?
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by StreetofCrocodiles on Jun 30, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah Richard does that
for sanity’s sake, but I’ll go back in and put their current promotion when I think of it. thanks for pointing that out.
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Pretty much.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually thought he'd retired, no?
Or did he announce a comeback? I can’t remember…
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Comeback.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 30, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
how is brock rank higher then werdum. brock only strength is his gnp and if he tries that with werdum he will get sub in less then a minute.
Maybe
but he did well against Mir on the ground in the rematch
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by SentientAndroid on Jun 30, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He stayed out of Mir’s guard. I doubt he would accept Werdum’s guard in light of that… Lol please post the Come at me Bro picture with Werdum eyeing Alistair crazily and begging him to jump in between his legs… Werdum is silly…
by p123 on Jun 30, 2011 12:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Me too
But I’d drop him to 6 due to inactivity.
by Jim America on Jun 30, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Russow is climbing the ranks
14 wins, 1 loss. 8 submissions. 4 TKOS.
Just noticed that too
SloCop is gonna hammerfist his way to tha top!
by Dangit! on Jun 30, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's a quality nickname.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jun 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Sort of on topic
but has anyone heard anything else about JDS’s break with Soares? Is it true he left Blackhouse?
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what does that mean in terms of his trainers?
Is he still with the Nogs, or is it a clean break?
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by Dave Strummer on Jun 30, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Seeing Fedor as no.9
is kinda weird to me. He’s been no. 1 for so long that it’s just crazy.
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i would go as far as saying his submissions for rankings this month
Were also his best writing ever.
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by the-gentle-way on Jun 30, 2011 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Arguably better than the ones that doofus from HKL turned in.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 30, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Arguably?
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by The American Ronin on Jul 1, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
HA! Mines is perfect.
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by Matthew Roth on Jul 1, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
7. Mir 8. Carwin
I know Carwin just got whooped by JDS, but he laid the pipe when he fought MIr.
The Overeem debate isn't too ridiculous here, which is nice. No reason to go too nuts over rankings.
That said, on the subject of Overeem, it’s interesting that the resident kickboxing expert seems to have ranked Overeem the lowest. Placing him at #9 beneath even Brendan Schaub.
Many thanks to the ballot contributors, always a fun read.
by StreetofCrocodiles on Jun 30, 2011 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
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