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Vancouver Riots Blamed on UFC, NHL By School Board Chair

Wearing a standard UFC game mask, a rioter looks to break a car window like so many Josh Koscheck orbital sockets. Photo via www.tourist2townie.com

In a move that's all too predictable, a Vancouver school board chair named Patti Bacchus has found the time to point the finger at the UFC for their role in the Vancouver riots. The riots started after the Vancouver Canucks lost game seven of the NHL Stanley Cup finals to the Boston Bruins. The following days saw authorities blaming everything from "roving gangs of youths" to "anarchists" all while trying to minimize that it was, more than likely, a stupid mixed group of Canucks fans and people just looking to make trouble.

The most recent attempt to blame the UFC is probably the most absurd, however. Via the Vancouver Courier  (by way of Yahoo's Puckdaddy):

"The painted faces and hockey itself-it's aggressive, they celebrate the brawling on ice, it's winning, it's dominance. If kids are all watching a UFC game and cheering someone for bloodying up someone else's face, how big a leap is that from cheering on someone smashing a window? It's very mixed messages we're sending to young people who are still in a stage of developing their impulse control and moral development."

And really, it all makes sense.

In 1994, after losing game seven of the Stanley Cup finals to the New York Rangers, Vancouver fans rioted. This, mere months after UFC 2. The angry mob was, of course, not driven by a combination of angry Canucks fans and idiots looking to cause trouble. They were fueled with the anger of 1,000 Pat Smiths, ready to lapel choke the city after yet another Royce Gracie tournament win.

The evidence is overwhelming.

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Did the UFC games encourage you to do any smashing aboot?

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

by DayGeaux on Jun 21, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We Canadians are a little slow, that’s why it took days for what we saw to sink in…

by truck on Jun 21, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

that makes sense

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

by DayGeaux on Jun 21, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the words of South Park:

“Blame Canada, blame Canada.
with their hockey hullaballu, and that * Anne Murray too.
Blame Canada, Shame on Canada…”

by airkerma on Jun 22, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

for the truth. now lets go have a beer.

by sklart on Jun 22, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes

I guffawed loudly when I read this.

Tweet!

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by BeardedNerd on Jun 21, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh.....god

I think I’m hemorrhaging, the…. ignorance……can’t….. take it

Tweet!

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by BeardedNerd on Jun 21, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Why not just tell the truth?

Vancouver riots should be blamed on the douche bags that live in Vancouver.

There’s no excuse to riot over a hockey game, regardless if it is because you saw the UFC live the weekend before or because you saw a historically awful team fail for the 40th time in a row.

Assign blame to the people that did it, not the events that they witnessed.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

This must be a TOTALLY NEW THING FOR VANCOUVER....

2010 – Vancouver Winter Olympics Riot. Over Vancouver’s homelessness crisis.
1971 – Gastown Riots, Vancouver
1994 – Vancouver Stanley Cup riot
1886 – Vancouver anti-Chinese riots

The rest of Canada has a riot-rap-sheet a mile long…

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by MMArazorback on Jun 21, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Montreal riots once a week

So close and yet so far. The story of my sports fandom.

by SSreporters on Jun 21, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still two times less than Vancouver

by Broseidon on Jun 22, 2011 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not about a rap sheet, it’s the fault of the city, the audience that stood around, the piss poor police performance (’there will not be a riot this time") and the idiots that harbor there.

In White Rock it was nice and sunny and no problems, but you have people 2 miles away being absolute retards. The rest of Canada does not have a sheet a mile long for riots, it is strictly a big city event.

 Vancouver just has small ball syndrome and thinks they have to out-do cities in riots that have 3x or more their population.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It’s pretty ignorant to blame the police since the VPD put in a requisition for more support and it was rejected by the Mayor’s office, who is more interested in sexy things like bike lanes and growing wheat in your back yard. All things considered, they did a pretty outstanding job.

by aptar on Jun 21, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

god…dammit.

haha

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 21, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

assuming that gets fixed to mob

the article makes more sense, but becomes much less intriguing.

by Clifford J on Jun 21, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved her in "Best of the Best 2"

Oh wait that was Bracus, nevermind

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by Jesse Holland on Jun 21, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

They fucked up the whole series killing off Tommy Travis

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

by DayGeaux on Jun 21, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

"the angry mom"

Was there an angry mom smashing the city. Or is that suppose to read “mob”

by troyd on Jun 21, 2011 5:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Already been pointed out, and already been fixed

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 21, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit beat me

by troyd on Jun 21, 2011 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

How about blaming degenerate parents?

How about we blame horrible parents who don’t teach their kids how to act right? How about we blame the people who are over 18 for their OWN FUCKING ACTIONS rather than trying to say “they seen it on TV, so it’s TV’s fault.”

What the fuck is wrong with this world!?!?

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by KidThunder on Jun 21, 2011 5:42 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

that was great Memphis.

 I about spit my coffee on that one.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Jun 21, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

My co-workers are lookin at me all weird cuz I lol’ed… That was hilarious…

by tatertotsfortoys on Jun 21, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

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by sgiblin on Jun 21, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Puck Daddy is correct

It isn’t the violence in hockey or MMA that fueled these riots. Fans become so emotionally invested in “their team” that when they lose it just sets them off.

Take a look at soccer. Which, unless it’s women’s soccer, is pretty non-violent. A quick google search of soccer riots turns out hundreds of videos and images.

by SanDiegoMMA.net on Jun 21, 2011 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

. Fans become so emotionally invested in "their team" that when they lose it just sets them off.

Same goes for when their teams win too.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 21, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

That’s not true at all. Vancouver didn’t riot because of the emotional investment in the Canucks. The Canucks were an excuse for these goombas to keep up our reputation as a city that “likes to riot”. They were going to do it win or lose.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree 100% Tim

You could feel the trouble coming all week, Hell, even the whole series. And in the hours leading up to actual rioting you could feel the festive atmosphere giving way to the smaller group who were looking to cause trouble win or lose, rain or shine.

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. And I think that’s what bothers me the most about it.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah and obviously those smaller groups looking to start trouble were UFC fans, duh

by schm1583 on Jun 21, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Just ludicrous to make that jump in logic. The kind of backhanded apologizing, as though the citizens of Vancouver are powerless to control ourselves following exposure to the dreaded “Ultimate Fighting”

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

UFC caused the riot.

 Vancouver rioted becuz Junior dos Santos pummeled Shane Carwin for 3 rounds and were deprived watching Brock be beaten into submission. I’d riot for that too. Oh yeah, and they had this little thing called game 7 of the Stanley Cup in town. A game that the hometown team lost by not showing up. A game that the hometown team had not seen in almost 20 years. Hey, didnt UFC hold an event in Vancouver last year? Why wasn’t there a riot then?

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Jun 21, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Har har

Eets all Carwyn’s fault. This never would have happened if teh Carwyn was still fighting teh Elmo and Jr Dos Antos wuz fighting Brockle Snarr.

by mthom on Jun 21, 2011 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haha

chuckled at “Brockle Snarr”

by airkerma on Jun 22, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Step 1: Have UFC Event
Step 2: Canucks lose game 7 a week later
Step 3: riot
Step 4: Blame UFC
Step 5: ?
Step 6: PROFIT

Learn JiuJitsu.

by RolloTomasi on Jun 21, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

It really felt inevitable. And that may sound ridiculous to some, but collective unconcious (and concious) attitude that I percieved was that this riot was a done deal either way. Fucking sucks because the night should have been a celebration of the Canucks first deep run in 17yrs and a gracious tip of the cap to the superior Bruins team. Instead we got all that madness.

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Completely overshadowed everything. And further tied the Canucks to a ridiculous reputation that has almost nothing to do with them.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boston loved to riot too....or at least, I loved to riot when I lived in Boston.

Riots were basically tied to Sports. Red Sox win the ALDS? RIOT! RED SOX LOSE THE ALCS? RIOT! RED SOX WIN THE ALDS? RIOT! RED SOX WIN THE ALCS? RIOT! RED SOX WIN THE WORLD SERIES! RIOT! PATRIOTS WIN THE SUPERBOWL TWICE? RIIIIOOOOOOTTTT!!! IN THE SNOW!!!!

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

A) I don’t believe that there was NO tie between the rioters and the team.

B) I maintain that if this is just how people in the city are going to handle these things (even if it’s a small group using hockey as an excuse) that maybe Vancouver should have its team taken away.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 21, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

In response to B)

You’re not the first to suggest it in the wake of this and the 94’ riots, but really, I don’t think the parental “We’ll take those toys away if you don’t play nice” approach is healthy for the city. I think the police and city staff should be looking at England as an example of what has to be done during intense sporting contests to minimize hooliganism and rioting.

P.S. On A), you’re 100% right, there was at least SOME tie between the two, no doubt.

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Yes, there was some tie to the team. There wouldn’t have been 100k people downtown if they weren’t playing. My point is that the success of the team didn’t decide whether there was a riot or not. There was going to be one anyway. It might have been on a smaller scale had we won, but cars were getting burned and stores were getting looted no matter what.

Taking away the team does nothing to change that. Taking away the team is just crazy. This reputation is built on more than hockey.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

that shit doesn't embarras your country?

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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 21, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Biggest country in the world bro… On the one hand it probably does embarass Canadians as a whole. I doubt if my fellow countrymen in Halifax, Nova Scotia lost much sleep over it though.

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

2nd biggest country in the world.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Already into the bottle, you rogue, you villain, you..you….!

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah no drinking

gotta do a radio show tonight…gotta be *sober

*somewhat sober

just kidding

gotta be sober.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

We all know the biggest state in the US is the welfare state, badum-psch.

I didn’t know you did a radio show, is it like Don Imus meets Conan O’Brien?

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah...a CBS affiliate in Portland wants me on tonight

to talk about MMA. Personalities, why it’s becoming mainstream, and The Future of the UFC.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's awesome

good for you, bro

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by Chris Hall on Jun 21, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks man

I’m pretty stoked.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Portland, OR or Portland, ME?

Please say ME. I like Oregon.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

OREGON!

I’M CALLING IN AT 8 YOUR TIME

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit. Hopefully the UFC goes back to Portland though, it’s a great city.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously though

Congrats on that man

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks man

as I said, I’m pretty stoked to be getting this chance.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than Subo getting it.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

Coming to you from Titletown, USA

by Austin Martin on Jun 21, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's better on radio than he is in text.

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by Richard Wade on Jun 21, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember you when you were TRE

congrats man, hopefully I can follow a similar path. When I get my shit together (more posts) I’m coming hunting for a gig at HKL, be forewarned

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by Austin Martin on Jun 21, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're welcome whenever you want to start

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I’lll email you later tonight if thats a legit offer.

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by Austin Martin on Jun 21, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

LEGIT OFFER

SHOOT ME AN EMAIL TONIGHT.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome! Will fucking do.

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by Austin Martin on Jun 21, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

How smaller can this text box get?

by Broseidon on Jun 22, 2011 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there an online edition? Would be fun to hear the commentary of an actual MMA fan/writer/ventriloquist/whatever you do on the radio.

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be on KPAM 860

http://www.kpam.com/programming/

You can listen live…11pm Eastern Time/8pm Pacific.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just remember millions of the MMA legion will be listening, don’t get nervous!

Is there a specific topic they want you to discuss or just an overview of MMA in general and what it is like presently?

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahah...I don't get nervous

“I would love to talk about the current personalities in the sport….why it is becoming so main stream and your perspective on UFC and its future.”

This is what the host asked me to cover.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope you got your talking points down, pretty vague stuff, you could just make most of it up and talk about how Ric Flair holds a belt in 2 weight classes and nobody would be the wiser.

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

IN ORDER TO BE THE MAN...

YOU GOTTA BEAT THE MAN!

WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I have a job doing not work?

Do you have any not work that needs to get done? I’ve been at work not working all day and I feel like I’m getting pretty (not?) good at it.

by Brandon Starr on Jun 21, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is bullshit

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by Derek Suboticki on Jun 21, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought New Jersey was pretty small.

Oh wait, you forgot where you were from once you moved to the Lone Star State! : )

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crap

You’re right! I always thought we got top spot after the USSR fell apart.

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

They made sure we couldn’t be #1 at anything after the summit series

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said it didn’t. You said Vancouver “continues to embarrass Canada internationally”. That’s just stupid. This was embarrassing. It’s not like it’s a regular thing.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

only because it takes 15 or whatever years for yall to have any success in Hockey anyway

;)

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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 21, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did suck. No denying that.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of...

The fact that there were more Canadians on the Bruins than on the Canucks however might speak to our nation as whole being dominant in that sport.

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

If you just meant Vancouver, yeah, we sucked bad… :(

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The sad part is that there are more Canadians on American teams on average than on Canadian ones.

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

....Which is why Bruins fans are jackasses for chanting "USA! USA!"

When their only American regular starter is Thomas.

So close and yet so far. The story of my sports fandom.

by SSreporters on Jun 21, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

so mr butthurt canadian what should they chant?

“USA based team with a plurality of canadian players! USA based team with a plurality of canadian players!”

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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 21, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should chant “Let’s go sport we don’t understand!”

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously. When will Americans realize....

We’re not really a hockey powerhouse on a global stage.

So close and yet so far. The story of my sports fandom.

by SSreporters on Jun 21, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

At some point, the “our best athletes play sports that actually make them money” argument is bound to come up.

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by Austin Martin on Jun 21, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well the Americans won the junior championships last year, so they are getting up there. They are #2 for sure.

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miracle!

Static pulse inside of music bringing us escape
Its always temporary changing nothing in its wake
Just a second where were leaving all this shit behind
Just a second but its leaving just this much in mind:
To resist despair that second makes you see
To resist despair because you cant change everything
To resist despair in this world is what it is to be free

by Austin Martin on Jun 21, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should shut the hell up.

…..And I’m not Canadian.

So close and yet so far. The story of my sports fandom.

by SSreporters on Jun 21, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least we’re not at bad as Canadien fans, who didn’t their team had more Americans than ours, and still booed the American National Anthem.

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by Austin Martin on Jun 21, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn’t realize*

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by Austin Martin on Jun 21, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just saying. 2 trips to the stanley cup finals, 2 riots. And now it’s “Well…they were going to do it win or lose! They just needed an excuse”

That doesn’t sound like a city that can handle having a hockey team. Success=riot! Failure=riot!

I’m, of course, not serious about taking away the team. But shit…I kind of would like to see it.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 21, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude we’ve been to the Cup final 3 times. No riot the first time. We actually won the Cup in 1915 as well, but that was before the NHL was formed.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m talking about the last 2 trips.

Seriously, it’s still a good team. But there’s really no reason to want them to get to the finals next year is there? It’s bad for the city if they do well.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 21, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

40 million dollars in revenue is worth more than a couple mil to clean up after the riots, hurt rep or not. Plus, in a weird way this riot has banded the residents of the city together like never before. It obviously went unreported across the world that 15,000 Vancouverites went downtown the next day to help clean up their city and throw up a hearty FUCK YOU to the rioters. If we make the finals next year, this won’t happen for a variety of reasons.

And we will make the finals next year.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not willing to guarantee a Cup victory?

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by Derek Suboticki on Jun 21, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha nobody in Vancouver can guarantee a cup victory. I’m sure Christy Clark is enjoying her clam chowder.

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Vancouver does make the finals next year and it happens again? I’m going to be serious about getting rid of the team. ;)

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 21, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have sold out over 300+ games in a row, now you are just trolling Tim!

heartless.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we make the finals next year, this won’t happen for a variety of reasons.

foremost among them is that there won’t be a UFC event scheduled in Vancouver during the 2012 finals to incite violence and bloodlust amongst the greater Vancouver population…….

by Manch1ld on Jun 22, 2011 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

go vancouver millionaires!

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have never experienced success, so who knows if they’d riot then.

Guns N Roses cancelled a concert there in the 90s and they rioted over that too.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a baby riot.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, it still is just an example of the lack of reasoning it takes to motivate people in Vancouver to riot.

There’s either a manipulative criminal deception or marijuana + beer = craziness.

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, we just love Slash.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was all about Buckethead

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man...

Sports riots aren’t that new a phoenenon, Not sure whey everyone is acting like it is. They are beyond stupid, but I’m not sure why the stupidness Vancouver is being treated like it’s worse than the stupidness of other riots.

by pacinofan on Jun 21, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

They need to set it up so that the team gets taken away if they ever do this again.

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by Bolshevik on Jun 21, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeesh. That’s quite the word to be using around here.

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by James Brady on Jun 21, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live in Vancouver

and I work for the City of Vancouver, and I can say that this woman’s (ridiculous) opinion does not reflect popular opinion here. I think the majority of Vancouverites saw this incident (as Brent already noted) as a bunch of angry fans mixed with a bunch of people looking to cause trouble. This riot made a lot of people angry, and it has been a serious black eye for the city, but in no fucking way should we be looking anywhere but at our own citizens for answers as to why this happened! God this Bacchus woman is just a total idiot!

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Although I did have a couple of old people in the pub on the night of the riots stating that “the fighting stuff last weekend probably led to this” to me, this is not the popular opinion. Sadly though, a lot of people in this city do agree with this lady.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

You can definitely find people who have the same opinion (I think the Province had posted some other beauracrat making the same comment previously). Luckily that sentiment has not been raised in any of the post riot discussions I’ve been privy to.

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean it makes sense to me.

I’d blame the UFC too. It’s Human Cock Fighting after all and shouldn’t be legalized anywhere.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

If they didn't have health insurance

Maybe the riot would have only been half as bad too

by MemphisMike on Jun 21, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Vancouver continues to embarrass Canada internationally

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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 21, 2011 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Bullshit.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of Canada is good at it

Then again, so is much of this hemisphere.

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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 21, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lemme guess

You’re from New York.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t even look. It’s just the kind of joking unique to New Yorkers.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

so this city hasn't embarrassed the nation internationally?

SO those really weren’t Canadians calling in to ESPN radio all week apologizing for that nonsense?

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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 21, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Vancouver “continues to embarrass” Canada. Like the Olympics were a black mark. Or Vancouver being the most liveable city in the world. Get over yourself, it was definitely an idiotic night, but the rest of Canada does a lot to embarrass the rest of Canada itself. The Toronto Maple Leafs, for example.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Canada embarrasses itself

By being good at no other major sports. Don’t give me Lacrosse.

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by SSreporters on Jun 21, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have the Whitecaps!

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I have Toronto FC

2 wins and……nothing else.

Glad Dero is succeeding there. Kinda. Why did we trade him for Tchani and the horrible Danleigh Borman?

So close and yet so far. The story of my sports fandom.

by SSreporters on Jun 21, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

CURLING!

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS!! ^

We own curling!!! (though it doesn’t look like anyone is trying to take it from us…) lol

by PansyMcBear on Jun 21, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa whoa whoa

I said sports. Not janitorial tasks on ice.

So close and yet so far. The story of my sports fandom.

by SSreporters on Jun 21, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

but you have the Maple Leafs! A winning tradition like no other!

OK I’m sorry, thats a low blow.

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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 21, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go USA!

Best in the world at the sports only we play!

Sheeeeeeeee-it

by Clay Davis on Jun 21, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Baseball/Basketball?

Both are popular around the world.

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by RolloTomasi on Jun 21, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yo don't be mad at me or the rest of the world

be mad at yo city for what it did. I didn’t write this here storyline guy.

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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 21, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, you’re just skewing it to a ridiculous degree.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could link bomb you to mainstream stories with "embarrassed" in the title about these riots from this week.

But I applaud your defiant nationalism ultimately. At least you have a backbone.

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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 21, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Show me all the embarrassment about Vancouver BEFORE this.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Winter Olympics were pretty embarrassing Tim.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just wish you could speed skate Roth!

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apolo OhNO! wins every time.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only an American would name their kid after a doomed spacecraft. I don’t care if he was a God first. Plus, they didn’t even spell it right.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

...the Apollo was doomed?

You do know that the Ron Howard movie wasn’t the extent of the program, right?

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by Derek Suboticki on Jun 21, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a joke, goober.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I donno how they do things in the CFL but in America the goalposts stay put

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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 21, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’ve seen American goalposts ripped down and carried away lotsa times.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

2028. Get it right.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh not always

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

by DayGeaux on Jun 21, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look like...

a bunch of purple and gold.

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by sgiblin on Jun 21, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

College football - LSU, I believe

Doesn’t happen in the pros.

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by Derek Suboticki on Jun 21, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other than 1994.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vancouver is a beautiful city.

So close and yet so far. The story of my sports fandom.

by SSreporters on Jun 21, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

which made a poopy and rubbed on the countries face this week

beautiful city or not, bad week.

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by Urijah Bieber on Jun 21, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blame the foreigners

Freaking Sedins, Ehrhoff, Edler…..

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by SSreporters on Jun 21, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a resident of BC and having traveled all across Canada, I can say that there are plenty of other cities that are doing a better job.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The REAL question: What happens if GSP loses a split decision in Vancouver?

If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

by DayGeaux on Jun 21, 2011 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Quebec goes up in flames

of poutine and smoked meat.

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Sounds delicious.

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd miss the smoked meat

poutine is overrated

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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 21, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say this every time Canadia comes up regarding MMA

This is why Canuckistan will always be a 3rd world country.

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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 21, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

The real question is

did the Japadog stand survive?

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

It did

Though I haven’t been there to make a visual confirmation yet. I will this weekend.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fanshot the survival of the Japadog stand!

IT’S A NATIONAL TREASURE!

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget when everything was Marilyn Mansons fault

those were the days…

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by Chris Hall on Jun 21, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is so stupid

The riots are all because of Kid Nate. His anti-UFC tirades are exactly why the Sedins weren’t bothered to give a damn and Christian Ehrhoff NEVER SHOOTS ON NET OR HOLDS THE LINE AT THE POINT EVER EVER!!!!!

(Starts crying again)

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by SSreporters on Jun 21, 2011 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

the real culprit is collectivism

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by troy145 on Jun 21, 2011 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

RIM SHOT!

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

BANNED!

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I’ll email you later tonight if that’s a legit offer.

Coming to you from Titletown, USA

by Austin Martin on Jun 21, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll ban you right now if you want.

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by Richard Wade on Jun 21, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha it was a reply fail, so please no. Then I would have no way to post angry, pissed off remarks at Fagan’s snarky QOTW

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by Austin Martin on Jun 21, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew what it was.

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by Richard Wade on Jun 21, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could get started at HKL quicker, it works out for everyone!

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

Coming to you from Titletown, USA

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently the story behind this is that she got hit by riot stuff, tear gas or something like that and he was helping her out.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

She got dummied by the riot police right before this

And that was her Australian boyfriend consoling her.

True story.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

"They were between the riot police and the rioters, and the riot police were actually charging forward, and Alex got knocked by a [police] shield and fell to the ground," Brett Jones told CBC News. "[Scott] was comforting her and gave her a kiss to say, ‘It’s going to be OK,’ and the photographer just took the shot at that moment."

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by RolloTomasi on Jun 21, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd be just as angry..

after you watched the Omigawa decision.

by Matt Nelson on Jun 21, 2011 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh I was.

I was is pissed.

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by RolloTomasi on Jun 21, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh, Frank Shamrock just RT’d this article.

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by Tim Burke on Jun 21, 2011 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno whether that is a good thing or a bad thing.

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

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by Matthew Roth on Jun 21, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He must read this site pretty actively. Maybe he enjoys how this is one of the few places that the UFC hasn’t erased his memory.

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

so will i

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by Cory Braiterman on Jun 21, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Fixed

Vancouver Riots Blamed on UFC/NHL by School Board Chair Idiot

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by Derek Suboticki on Jun 21, 2011 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

This makes me ashamed to be Canadian

by AHutch on Jun 21, 2011 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t be ashamed, there’s people that do this in the USA too, they’re also called politicians.

“Hey everybody look at me applaud me now, for I have confirmed your fears!”

They’re called cocksuckers. Everyone wants them to go away.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I for one,

 don’t want all cocksuckers to go away.

If you know what I mean….

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by RolloTomasi on Jun 21, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Idiot journalist is an idiot

She’s right, every riot in Canada after a hockey game was caused by the UFC…

Good job not taking responsability…

by aTn on Jun 21, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

The 1994 riot was because Patrick Smith lost to Royce Gracie.

Vancouver has always taken MMA losses hard.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol ashmed to be Canadian today. What a bunch of idiots lol. How can you just not say.. what the fuck to this..

by BrockLesnar Budlight on Jun 21, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

She’ll get much love on Twitter I’m sure…

by aTn on Jun 21, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

And violent video games!

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by Derek Suboticki on Jun 21, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was Sub Zero’s fatality that made me do all that blow.

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There's defniitely no better reason to do blow

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by Chris Hall on Jun 21, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have this whole Vancouver thing solved.

Jon Fitch vs. Sean Sherk in his welterweight return.

And Nik Lentz vs. Andre Winner II, III, and IV.

No more riots, just an early night for all watching.

by mountaineers101 on Jun 21, 2011 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Nik Lentz vs an immobile object

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by DirtyML on Jun 21, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I fear for the children of my city when the school board has idiots like her on it.

by pud333 on Jun 21, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

To be fair she was just including UFC games in a category of things that could influence

the under developed minds of youth. It isn’t a new idea, educators have been saying for years that video games and movies were too violent for young people. That the UFC can be included in that category is actually a good thing for the UFC. She recognizes it as something of a player in the “violent entertainment begets violence in male teens” argument that she is making.

So we should be pleased to see the UFC used in this way. She’ll never be able to prove her claims.

by Luke Nelson on Jun 21, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

We know we are mainstream when MMA is added to the list of things turning “turning the youth violent”

by schm1583 on Jun 21, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually yea

i mean being on that list hasnt exactly hurt video games, rock and roll action movies and porn

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by milk72 on Jun 21, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notice that she calls it UFC games?

Not MMA games. When you hear commentators reference call of duty or halo, they do so because those games were more relevant than the industry itself.

So the fact that UFC is now being scapegoated is almost like a badge of acceptance.

by Luke Nelson on Jun 21, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s how you know we aren’t dealing with the brightest whatever she is. Wouldn’t calling it a fight instead of a game help her argument out?

by Phildo on Jun 21, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vancouver's local government is appallingly Nanny-Statist.

A woman on the City Council said publicly that the role of government was to be your mother.

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by Llewdor on Jun 21, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s the entire provincial political climate. I could go on about it for hours; it’s an absolute disgrace.

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by AJB on Jun 22, 2011 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by zzwab on Jun 21, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok..... everybody don't slit my internet throat over this.... but....

She kind of has a point. Sure it sucks for our cause that she chose to mention the UFC, but her overall point isn’t too ridiculous. She certainly could’ve just left it with hockey to make her point but I can’t say I disagree entirely. She’s just saying that in a general context, certain violent actions (don’t tell me mma isn’t violent, it’s totally violent; pretty much why I like it) are given the “ok” (fighting in hockey, mma fights, etc) and it definitely creates an environment in an impressionable kids mind that not all violent actions are bad. Again, she definitely should’ve stayed with hockey, but her comments aren’t exactly crazy.

by Brandon Starr on Jun 21, 2011 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

they are crazy.

People being allowed to fight under very specific controlled circumstances doesn’t make it ok to set cop cars on fire.

by Phildo on Jun 21, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

SHUT UP!!!

jk…. but seriously shut up. No I think the hockey thing is kind of legit though (I’m not sure why she had to add the ufc to her argument) as far as the fights. They’re given space to brawl it out, get a very small penalty, and the fans cheer and it’s in all the highlight videos for that player/game. Even the hockey video games let you fight. It’s against the rules and yet fully accepted and even loved by everybody involved but the officials. That isn’t specific controlled circumstances, it’s a penalty and against the rules.

by Brandon Starr on Jun 21, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh, hockey fights are way tamer than they used to be, and the same could be said for all sports. I really doubt the growth of mma has really counteracted the decrease in violence and fighting from every other sport.

And hockey fights are very specific controlled circumstances. One on one, fight ends when someone hits the ground or a shirt comes off.

by Phildo on Jun 21, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

True....

Here in Hawaii when the shirts come off the fight is just beginning! Even the fattest of fat guys take their shirts off to scrap. It’s beautiful.

by Brandon Starr on Jun 21, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s the case on the streets everywhere, but I’ve never played a second of competitive hockey in my life, and I learned at a very young age that to win a hockey fight you pull the shirt over the guys head to tie him up right after you drop the gloves, you can’t do that any more, hockey fights are boxing on skates, they are doing a lot less damage to society than brawls on youtube.

by Phildo on Jun 21, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No more fights in Vancouver.

That’s what I say. First they boo and use profanity at K flo just because he’s not from Canada, they were a terrible crowd booing all the americans, they gave UFC their lowest gate numbers in a long time, didn’t even fill up the stadium, they have a riot over losing a silly game, and then have the gall to blame it on UFC? PEACE

by barpower on Jun 21, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Call me crazy but I totally agree with this lady

I know when I watched ufc on vs. After the fights I seen a NHL promo and totally round house kicked my buddy in the face. If I hadn’t seen the combo of a UFC game and a hockey troop I would have been able to control myself.

by ohiomma on Jun 22, 2011 1:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It just occured to me

that every country the UFC has ever had an event in has had a riot at some point in history. Obviously, they all can be tied to the UFC.

by sklart on Jun 22, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

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