The Greatest Fights in MMA History
by Nate Wilcox on Jun 14, 2011 2:00 PM EDT
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Luke Thomas, Jonathan Snowden, Thomas Myers and myself were asked to contribute a piece to USA TODAY's Mixed Martial Arts Special Edition -- a 40 page magazine focusing solely on MMA -- about the 10 greatest MMA bouts of all time. You can read the whole feature on the USA TODAY site, but here's a bit about our rationale and some juicy excerpts.
Obviously a list like this is never going to please everyone -- heck all four of us could barely agree -- but the point is to appreciate some of the great fighters of the past and some of the great fights.
Our criteria were as followed:
- Dramatic, with momentum swings back and forth
To really be considered a great fight, both athletes have to have at least a couple of great moments. While a highlight reel of Mike Tyson KO's is fun to watch, Muhammad Ali's epic wars with Joe Frazier and George Foreman are the fights that really stand the test of time. Nothing makes a great champion like overcoming a great challenger. - High-stakes, high-profile
Just for the sake of sanity, we limited our selection to fights at the highest level of the sport -- pretty much UFC and Pride. While there are many epic wars from the smaller regional promotions we could have talked about (say Jose "Pele" Landi-Jons' epic series against Jorge "Macaco" Patino or Aaron Riley vs Yves Edwards' duels before they reached the UFC), we wanted to keep it limited to big fights on the big stage. - At least one legendary fighter involved
And to narrow the field further, we wanted to make sure each of the fights included at least one immortal of the game. It's the Royce Gracies, Sakurabas, Coutures, GSPs and Fedors of the sport that fans will remember in 20 years and we wanted to reflect that. - Holds up to repeated viewings
This was the most critical aspect IMO. We want to turn fans of today's action onto the old fights and old school masters. It's critical to pick fights that hold their entertainment value today. We're confident you can pop in any of these fights to share with a total n00b and have an enjoyable evangelistic experience.
1. Royce Gracie vs. Kimo Leopoldo,
UFC 3; Sept. 9, 1994, at Grady Cole Center, Charlotte, N.C.2. Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Carlos Newton
Pride 3; June 24, 1998, at Nippon Budokan, Tokyo3. Randy Couture vs. Pedro Rizzo
UFC 31; May 4, 2001, at Trump Taj Mahal, Atlantic City
Couture's first title fight against Brazilian Muay Thai ace Rizzo is arguably the most important heavyweight fight in the sport's history. It headlined the first UFC card under current owners Zuffa. For 25 minutes, the two heavyweights threw everything at each other.In the first frame, Rizzo was nearly finished when Couture bludgeoned the Brazilian with savage ground and pound from top position. Yet Couture found himself on the verge of a fight stoppage when Rizzo returned the favor in the second round. For the duration of the bout, Rizzo battered Couture with thundering leg and middle kicks. Couture gutted through to land takedowns and find a home for his boxing from within the clinch. Couture was eventually declared the winner, and he kept his UFC heavyweight strap. While the decision was controversial, Couture bested Rizzo again, this time with ease, in a rematch at UFC 34.
4. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Pride: "Final Conflict 2003"; Nov. 9, 2003, at Tokyo Dome5. Forrest Griffin vs. Stephan Bonnar
The Ultimate Fighterfinale; April 9, 2005, at Cox Pavilion, Las Vegas6. Matt Hughes vs. Frank Trigg
UFC 52; April 16, 2005, at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas7. Fedor Emelianenko vs. Mirko Filipovic
Pride: "Final Conflict 2005";
Aug. 28, 2005, at Saitama (Japan) Super Arena8. Georges St. Pierre vs. BJ Penn
UFC 58; March 4, 2006, at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas
Penn, the exiled champion, was making his triumphant return to the octagon after an ugly contract dispute with the promotion sent him fighting overseas for years under the K-1 banner. But White wasn't just going to anoint him the No. 1 contender. "The Prodigy" would have to earn it by going through St. Pierre, a young upstart. Penn beat St. Pierre to a bloody pulp in the first round, seemingly demonstrating how wide the talent gap was between him and the rest of the welterweights. But "Rush" survived the onslaught and refused to lose the next two rounds.
Two of the three judges at ringside thought St. Pierre won them, giving the Canadian a controversial split decision win that paved the way for him to capture the division crown. He avenged a loss to Matt Hughes in his next appearance. Disgruntled, Penn quipped that he went to the bar after their first fight while St. Pierre went to the hospital. Either way, the bout has made for several big-money events, historic rivalries and great fights for more than seven years ... and counting.9. Nick Diaz vs. Takanori Gomi
Pride 33: "The Second Coming"; Feb. 24, 2007, at Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas
This was supposed to be a fight that showcased the talent and skill of Pride FC lightweight champion Gomi, regarded as the best lightweight in the world. His hand-picked opponent, 10-fight UFC veteran Diaz, had other plans.
The non-title fight started with Gomi winging punches and diving for takedowns. "The Fireball Kid" was well on his way to victory, dropping Diaz, busting up his face and angling for near-submission finishes. But Diaz kept charging forward.
It quickly evolved into a violent battle of attrition. Gomi landed a face-breaking punch in the second round, which left Diaz bloodied and swollen but far from beaten. Gomi pleaded with the referee to stop the fight because Diaz was a total mess. He didn't. Gomi, exhausted, went for another takedown. But while he was resting in the guard of Diaz, the Brazilian jiujitsu black belt set him up for a rarely seen and complicated gogoplata submission off his back, which forced the Japanese champion to tap seconds later.
It was an astonishing come-from-behind victory and an enormous upset. Less than two months later, the Nevada State Athletic Commission turned the biggest win of Diaz's career to a no contest after it was discovered Diaz had banned THC pumping through his veins during the fight. His win went up in smoke, but the memory endures.10. Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva
UFC 79; Dec. 29, 2007, at Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas
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Really shit the fan
by missing out Sanchez vs Parisyan
At least one legendary fighter involved
Fine! I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 14, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
USA today is a shit paper
Still like to see MMA getting some mainstream love
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
no Wand/Rampage?
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by keyboardwarrior on Jun 14, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Great knock out I wouldn't call it the greatest fight.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
their second fight fit almost all of the criteria. Jackson was winning the first round, looked like he was going to avenge his earlier loss, Wand came back in the second and brutalized him
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by keyboardwarrior on Jun 14, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yep, their second fight was incredible. Easily one of the best fights in MMA history.
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by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess the fact that I didn't see it live is why I'm not with you
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you can make an argument that Sanchez' popularity is sufficient.
Granted, it’s as much because of his unforced wacky personality as it is his performances inside the fence.
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by some schmuck in texas on Jun 14, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
no doubt he has a following but im just going by the criteria uptop
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not an all time great
Sanchez vs Parisyan is one of my personal favorites though
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what about
tito vs. frank shamrock.. legendary fighters.. hell of a come back.. that and fedor/cro cop are my favorites of all time
by etexdeathmetal on Jun 14, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i pushed for that one
it doesn’t hold up quite as well to repeated viewings since much of it was guard play and Frank wearing Tito down. but damn it was a peak experience to see live.
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 14, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Only one I disagree with is Penn/GSP. Was a good fight for sure but I’m not sure about top 10. Not sure off the top f my head what I’d put there instead though!
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by troy145 on Jun 14, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
silva V. sonnen should be in consideration
by HeadKckGdnight on Jun 14, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Was thinking the same thing just as I read your comment
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by Austin Wilson on Jun 14, 2011 7:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree,
I also didn’t like Sakuraba/ Newton all that much. It was a cool grappling match, definitely, but neither of them threw any strikes on the ground and that seriously bothered me.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 14, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I second this
It was hard to watch for me. MMA grappling is all about strikes mixed in with traditional grappling techniques.
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by sitnam90 on Jun 14, 2011 5:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd have put a shogun fight in instead...
maybe his fight w/ little nog?
Shamrock Severn superfight!
better than sominex!
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by some schmuck in texas on Jun 14, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions
It headlined the first UFC card under current owners Zuffa.
It actually headlined the second Zuffa owned card. The first was headlined by Tito Ortiz vs. Evan Tanner.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
It’s the first main event that was booked by Zuffa though. UFC 30 was pretty much a finished project before Zuffa took over.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 14, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Couture v. Sylvia.
Big miss there.
But I am happy to see Griffin v. Bonnar so high on that list.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Jun 14, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
This all day
Couture came back out of retirement and took the heavyweight strap like a boss.
I also think the second Maynard Edgar fight should qualify. That fight had the narrative arc of a movie (one of those summer movies where the ending just sets up the sequel)
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no drama
also doesn’t hold up to many repeated watchings. was one of the most thrilling live fights to watch but now that we know Couture holds on to pull off the upset, not a lot of drama.
and Sylvia didn’t do shit.
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This. Live I was yelling, high fives, jumping up and down, but upon further viewings it just doesn’t hold up as a great fight. Part onyhe criteria in my mind also is: Would this be a fight I would show a non-fan watching for the first time to get them into the sport? Not this one for sure. Would probably go for Chuck v Silva for that.
by troutki on Jun 14, 2011 5:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hmm.
Fair enough.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Jun 14, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
bj vs. hughes 1
Silva vs. Forrest, Silva vs Franklin 1 or 2,silva vs. Hendo , Silva vs. Sonnen. No love for the spider ?? The longest title reign ever and no spot could be found ? There wad ball dropping going durimgthe creation of this list, but overall … Very nice.
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by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
*there was
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
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by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 2:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Best KOs, certianly, but so many of his fights are borderline squash matches, he's so great.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 14, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously we need more A.S nuthugging on B.E
his highlight reel is unmatched and never ever will be touched.. THE elbow, victor cheerleader kick, newton flying knee, franklin1 clinch knees from hell, Franklin2 head body leg combo, forrest matrix, irvin leg catch and punch .. we’ll never see another silva EVER
by HeadKckGdnight on Jun 14, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Silva.
But only the Sonnen fight was epic. The rest are epic beatdowns.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 14, 2011 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dude is a Jedi
He dispatches champs like its their first fight. Also the Sakuri fight could go in there.
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by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 2:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it makes the accoplishments and the fights greater in my opinion.
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by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 2:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
silva Vs franklin1 just because that was
the beginning
by HeadKckGdnight on Jun 14, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva-Sonnen is one i nominated
but it was too soon. need more time to let it sink in.
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 14, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like way to much criteria was involved with this list.
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by Austin Wilson on Jun 14, 2011 7:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
More realistically...
when I first started following MMA back around 2000, watching early ufc on vhs, the match that really got me sold on the idea that this could be a great sport was Frye/Bitetti. UFC 8 or so, I think.
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by some schmuck in texas on Jun 14, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
that was a heck of a fight
Frye had several classics. His bout with Ken Shamrock and the rock ’em sock ’em robots with Takayama were both great.
The Bitetti fight is pretty one sided though.
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Now that I've seen so much more, I agree.
But at that time, I was watching that french guy kick the teeth out of that hawaiian guy, and Royce tap out a one-handed boxer by sitting on top of him. Just the fact that they went down, got back up, and went back down again fighting the whole time (well, until Bitetti turtled up and Frye started feeding him knees then looking at Big John like “we done yet?”) was really thrilling to me.
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by some schmuck in texas on Jun 14, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
it was awesome to see live
I think Frye had a 30 lb advantage too.
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 14, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Nog/Barnett I & Lil Nog/Shogun would replace Newton/Saku & Diaz/Gomi for me.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 14, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Only thing missing for me was Lil Nog/Shogun
Heck, I think there is a BE article floating around touting that fight as one of the best fights ever. I paraphrase, for emphasis in this discussion.
You’d take out Saku/Newton and leave Penn/GSP in?
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by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point. Take that out & use Royce/Saku.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 14, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, that's more of a historical oddity.
Further reflection is needed.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 14, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hendo vs rampage was a barnburner
Fine! I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack.
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by gxc on Jun 14, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Honestly I don't think I've seen that fight since it happened
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
check it out man its a doozy
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Fine! I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack.
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I forgot about it because I think Hendo won.
Makes me a sad panda
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stole the words out of my head man..i had hendo winning then the sad panda-ness happened
Fine! I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack.
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I don't remember the fight being that close
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait What?
Huh? Did I hear you right?
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
Like I said I havne't seen it since it happened
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
I was just joking but you really need to watch it again it was great(except the decision lol)
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You're right.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It was close. I had Hendo winning.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 14, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage
is really good at closing rounds strong and stealing rounds. I think that 5’th round flurry was what won him the fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 14, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hendo vs Rampage is one of the most overlooked great fights
That fight was a great back and forth fight that was a real war of attrition. Both fighters showed their standup, wrestling, and BJJ skills (yes, Rampage was showing a good amount of BJJ skill in this fight like using the fence to sweep, holding dominant positions, submission defense). It was also the UFC champion vs the PRIDE champion, and shown on free tv on Spike.
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by chrisbboy82 on Jun 14, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was a great fight.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 14, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d add: Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen, Quinton Jackson vs. Wanderlei Silva II and Randy Couture v. Tim Sylvia.
I’d remove GSP v. Penn, Couture v. Rizzo and as hard as it is, I’d also remove Diaz v. Gomi (it would be number 11!!)
And a part of me wants to add Don Frye vs. Yoshihiro Takayama and maybe even add in Hughes v. Newton… or not.
I can feel that.
If I were going to base it solely on the merit of the fight I would like to put Henderson/Cerrone I on there as well but it doesn’t hold up to some of the requirements.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately fighting for the WEC strap doesn't mean anything
or you could put the Pettis/Henderson fight up there too.
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Don't know how I forgot that
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Kick or no kick
Pettis/Henderson was one of the most engaging, entertaining fights I can ever remember watching. I was sold on it as possible fight of the year going into the 5th round, already considering it one of my favorite fights despite whatever the 5th round held… and then it happened.
Randy/Sylvia isn't anything special without the backstory.
Same for Sonnen/Silva. I can’t show those to people and just say, “Here, watch this”. For me, a great fight speaks for itself.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 14, 2011 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I think the criteria for this list
demands a back story to the fight. If you show anyone new to the sport any highly technical fight they aren’t really going to know what’s going on.
For instance, if you asked some random person to watch Saku v. Newton, it wouldn’t be the most exciting thing in the world but if you ask a grappler to watch you will notice a bulge develop in his pants region.
The great fights you show people who are new to the sport would be amazing finishes or brawls to whet their appetite.
"Serious sport is war minus the shooting."
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That's always been my argument against Sonnen-Silva.
If you discard the backstory, it’s a pretty boring and un-re-watchable fight. But I dunno if this list includes backstory or not.
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Your criteria makes your list pretty good. Frank Shamrock/Tito Ortiz is the only other one I can think of that fits all of them.
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by Tim Burke on Jun 14, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Criterion #5:
Must include fighters Zuffa acknowledges the existence of.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 14, 2011 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what happened to your history series?
i feel like you were about to get into some primo Frank Shamrock fappage
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by Anthony Pace on Jun 14, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's on the list
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
nog vs fedor was very memorable
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agreed,
They sacrificed their bodies on that one.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
bj vs jens pulver is one of my favs
deserves to be there over bj-gsp I in my eyes
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and at least one of the rampage-wandy trology needs to be mentioned
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That would have to be #2 since 1 & 3 weren't great fights.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 14, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
MMA people seem to be unable to stop making and arguing about lists lol
But yeah, some certified classics.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 14, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
List of reasons lists suck:
- Its an artificial structure that organizes writing like data
- They dumb down information into bullet points and keep the readers lazy
- Assigning any numeric value gets people focused on the numbers rather than content, and they end up missing the forest for the trees.
- Bleacher Report used them to create the dumbest fucking site structure ever
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by pdl on Jun 14, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
+1
"Very broken in his right hand is Martin Kampmann"
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Bleacher Report should have been number 2 on your list.
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by Tim Burke on Jun 14, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just a truly excellent comment.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 14, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Bleacher Report is terrible
but cracked has made it work. I think many people will agree that Seanbaby’s MMA articles are some of the best reading material out there.
Tito vs. Frank Shamrock for the title
was a pretty epic fight..and with Snowden’s butt-love for Shamrock, I’m suprised it didn’t make the list
by Fedorable on Jun 14, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Great fight
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
silva vs forrest...2 champions 2 different weight classes...one holy shit fight
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not exactly back and forth fight though
unless you count Anderson Silva’s fist going back and forth in Forrest Griffin’s face.
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hahha true...it was just so amazing tho
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plus this fight was after the whole 2 fight silva BS......the back store is great
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bj v sanchez
bj looked unstoppppppable in that fight..and diego was the big ww that dropped to 155 and beat some names
the way that fight played out was beautiful
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Both fighters had to have their moments
The only thing that Diego did was almost make it to the distance.
your criteria is oxymoronic to your assignment
edgar maynard 2 HAS to be on there-who cares if neither one is ‘famous’ enough?
i tried to change my username to 'big country fit' but the system wouldnt let me.
im sure they have nothing to do with the criteria..simmer down
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im simmering...
you may be right.
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by gspmademegay on Jun 14, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i really hated to leave that one off
pettis-henderson too, and either santiago vs misaki bout
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by Anthony Pace on Jun 14, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think expectations
Were so low, that the fact that we got 4 or 5 cool moments out of it makes it epic.
Y'all are crazy that fight was nuts.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No way
I missed that fight live. I only recently saw it on Unleashed and that was after reading all the reviews of it, and it still blew my mind.
I will however, be “that guy” and say that I watched Garcia/Zombie live, and was bored and annoyed. I sipped my beer, talked to my friends, and looked forward to the next fights.
Really?
I loved that fight, man. The first 2 rounds were pretty one sided and had some great moments, and the last 3 rounds were tooth and nail, very competitive.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 15, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
GRAY MAYNARD VS FRANKIE EDGAR 2
Probably one of the best fights I’ve ever seen. still think edgar won but hey thats my opinion!
Favorite fighters
LHW Champ Bones Jones-Before and After the hype
Bj Penn- When he is on top of his game he is one of the greatest
Chael Sonnen- He has done something nobody else in the ufc has come close to..High testosterone or not.
Forgot the most epic fight of all DIaz/Lawler
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Cheick Kongo looks like a cross between Evander Holyfield and pop singer Seal!
Melvin Guilard looks like a little Kevin Randelman!
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might not have the 'historic significance' from the top down like a couture or royce fight
and it was reasonably one-sided for most of the bout.
that being said, this was THE coming out of nick diaz, and probably the most second-by-second dramatic fight you could list after hughes / trigg 2
Mir/Cro-cop!
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by some schmuck in texas on Jun 14, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
bob sapp vs kimo
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fedor vs doublescoop
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by some schmuck in texas on Jun 14, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
nog sapp atleast ended cool
sapp kimo was a battle to the oxygen tank tent
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yeah
i meant it actually should’ve been on the list. A classic. And at the time Sapp was still somehow thought of as a legitimate fighter.
the good ol days of bob sapp being the mystery of combat sports
i mean fuck he beat hoost multiple timesss
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jon fitch vs...
oh, fuck it.
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by gspmademegay on Jun 14, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
HENDERSON vs. PETTIS
The most back in forth 5 round war ive ever seen, and topped off with a once in a lifetime strike deep in the 5th round. I know its WEC, but come on, ZUFFA owned it at the time
"he will have a two pound reach advantage"- mike goldberg
seems a bit biased towards older fights
henderson v. pettis and sonnen v. silva were great fights. edgar v. maynard 2. etc.
i wonder if maybe you were tempted to show how ‘old school’ or ‘hardcore’ you were by picking fights most MMA fans haven’t seen.
but it’s easy to criticize a list like this, you’ll never make everyone happy, these lists are supposed to be fun.
I don’t see that at all. I see the opposite problem. 8 of the 10 fights are post-2000. A full half of them are post-TUF.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 14, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m really happy with how this turned out. I lost two arguments for my man Don Frye’s fights and the lack of any Diego Sanchez classics makes me cry.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 14, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
i made a case for bj v sanchez.....
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Frye Takayama!
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by keyboardwarrior on Jun 14, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sanchez/Diaz at TUF 2 was the fight that hooked me.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 14, 2011 3:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sanchez/Guida was also a great fight
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by Anthony Pace on Jun 14, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Sanchez is actually my favorite fighter...
I can’t stand him & want him to lose every time, but his fights against Guida, Diaz, Karo, & Kampmann are all ones I tell people they must see. That’s more than any other fighter I recommend.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 14, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I loathe Diego Sanchez
but I won’t ever not watch one of his fights
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by Anthony Pace on Jun 14, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You are just not living “The Dream”, friend.
You need to respect the baby... 'cause life is precious... and God... and the Bible.
by timetraveltome on Jun 14, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't care who agrees or not
Silva v Sonnen
I am Genuinely going to miss Macho Man Randy Savage. RIP
If you watched that fight not knowing who each fighter was
It wouldn’t have been that great of a fight.
with out hearing sonnens 3 month tirade this fight is just a great comeback
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I think you could say that for a lot of fights
If we saw Griffin v Bonnar right now, with no backstory or anything, it’d some sloppy fight with a good first round.
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by warren305 on Jun 14, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know about that
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely agree.
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by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no way
for most people that fight had no back story at all and they tuned into it in droves to see that fight.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
This
Why do you think viewing went up as the fight progressed? I know I wasn’t the only one calling my friends and telling them to turn on the TV.
I am a self professed TUF noob.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe, maybe not
There’s still context. It may have been the first MMA fight you ever saw, or the first one you saw onTV. It had context. Just like Silva v Sonnen, nothing exist in a vacum
I am Genuinely going to miss Macho Man Randy Savage. RIP
If you saw Bonnar v Griffin today after seeing a bunch of fights
It would look sloppy. Point is, it had context
I am Genuinely going to miss Macho Man Randy Savage. RIP
by warren305 on Jun 14, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I knew MMA before I had seen a few cards but nothing really stuck with me until that fight.
And I really don’t give too much of a shit about sloppy most of the time. Frye/Takayama (which I know has been mentioned like ten times already) is still a fight that I talk about all the time and is still one of my favorites even though I saw for the first time like 4 years after it happened
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear you man
The more I think about, the more Machida v Shogun 1 is actually my favorite fight. The display of skills was fucking awesome. The little feints Lyoto does with his hips, Shogun’s agression. It was a freaking work of art, minus the decision
I am Genuinely going to miss Macho Man Randy Savage. RIP
I catch slack for that fight all the time.
Because I call it the “greatest most boring fight ever” I knew I was watching something great but for some reason it just didn’t light a fire under my ass.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It happens
Like I really don’t care for Chuck v Wandy. It felt like a showcase fight for Chuck, or something. Idk, I just thought it was okay. Maybe it was the lack of a knockout..meh
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See and I loved that fight.
To each their own
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
This is why I love BE
No one was called a re-tard or anything. Thank you sir
I am Genuinely going to miss Macho Man Randy Savage. RIP
Ofcourse
I do frequent Mania more than BE so I am glad to represent my fellow maniacs.
It’s been a pleasure Warren but if you would excuse me it’s Miller Time, you gentlemen have a nice day.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone mentioned this before, nottheface I think
I believe the “people were calling their friends to watch the fight!” meme is a bit hyperbolic, because it’s likely a ton of people were just tuning in to catch Shamrock/Franklin.
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In praise of Old Nassau we sing,
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Our hearts will give while we shall live,
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by Anthony Pace on Jun 14, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree. I was “that guy”. I’ll called during the fight and afterwards. It doesn’t hold up as well as one would like… but it was time and place… and it was awesome as hell.
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by timetraveltome on Jun 14, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd have Saku/Royce
at #1.
I don’t understand how it’s not on this list.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
I agree
Best fight of all time.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
have you tried to re-watch it?
it’s unwatchable
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 14, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What?!!?
I can seriously watch that fight over and over. It’s like a long novel where you wonder if the payoff is going to be worth all the work put in reading it. And then the payoff IS TOTALLY WORTH it.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
and so is War and Peace.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
No
The Angry Birds level.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
As a fan of both giant Russian novels AND Saku vs. Royce, may I just say that I got your back on this one Chris. Saku vs. Royce demands a spot as a great technical battle and the last gasp of the old school no rules mentality.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Jun 15, 2011 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions
silva v. sonnen
possibly #1 all time
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Wow, I really don’t like this list.
Royce/Kimo in the top spot kind of leaves a sour taste, as, while it was a fun scrap, there are a lot of fights I’d have ahead of it.
The criteria used kind of limits you, but even allowing for that, having fights like Griffin/Bonnar 1, Penn/GSP 1 and Chuck/Wand ahead of true classics like Wand/Rampage 2 or Shogun/Rogerio is very, very hard to justify.
Just my two cents worth.
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by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
Don't care for that fight either.
Chuck/Wand is a great fight I think it gets on there because it was the end of the Chuck we knew and loved
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Royce/Kimo in the top spot kind of leaves a sour taste
Fights are listed in chronological order.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 14, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Gah, I should have spotted that.
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by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea
I didn’t figure that out either. Much more palatable knowing that.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
J. snow
Why in gods name did you leave out the spider?
Is there a no grim reaper policy ? Perhaps a Jedi ban? You guys don’t like to encourage man slaughter?
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by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he hasn't been in many back and forth wars
the sonnen fight is about the only one.
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Why does it have to be back and fourth? When Anderson is smashing champs , that is great.
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by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And it was not even a back and forth war…just an unexpected beatdown followed by an improbable (then again Sonnen getting caught by a triangle in a music store should be expected I suppose) comeback.
by troutki on Jun 14, 2011 5:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm ashamed to admit
i didn’t catch that either.
not to blame you all for my stupidity, but maybe that could be made a little clearer in the post.
Henderson vs Rodrigo Nogueira, the one where Dan kept escaping subs until the 3rd round. That was one great fight.
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by KimboLeopoldo on Jun 14, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
great fight but rampage hendo was amazing
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Part of it was how crazy Bas was going about the escapes
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Bas the fight were he beats the fuck out of that cat that had already beat him twice in Pancrase was bad ass as well
Was his name Funaki?
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
funaki is also one if his teachers.
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No shit?
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he gave Bas his first pair of wrestling boots.
He was also one of Ken and Frank shamrock’s teachers.
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by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Learn something new everyday
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW i recommend
everybody follow that Jose “Pele” Landi-Jons link .. anderson moves JUST like him.. that just blew my mind a little
Anderson loves Pele.
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by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i remember reading somewhere
he was the only man to beat anderson in muai thay
by HeadKckGdnight on Jun 14, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if he was the only one, but I think he beat Anderson twice by stoppage.
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by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Pele taught Anderson a lot
at Chute Boxe. pele was the first star out of chute boxe.
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I’d probably have Coleman/Vochancyn high up too.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
coleman v fedor was great too..both
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The hell?
Only if you really hate Coleman and his daughters.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
which i do....freaking teases
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I was there live for the second one
shit was really hard to watch.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i envy you deeply
did you feel bad at allll?
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Yes
I was rooting for Fedor, of course, but man I felt bad for Coleman and his kids.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
bad dad call having your kids there when you fight fedor
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Colemans Kids were there?
Wow, his son probably never wants to start UFC fighting.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Worse, it was his two young daughters.
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by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
And their dad looked like the elephant man at the end of the fight. He brought his kids in to meet the guy that just turned their father into a goonie.
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So terrible…
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by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
If I remember right
Coleman said he was upset they brought his girls out, that he had them in the back for a reason.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
def not a clear thinking dad moment
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I always thought it was funny from Fedor’s side. You can see he’s like “Oh no…Mark, don’t do this plea…hiiiii kids! I’m your friend!”
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by Tim Burke on Jun 14, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i doubt he thought that much into it
“why cry? in russia we dont shed tears”
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Looks like a photoshop..
Are you guys playing a joke on me?
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you playing a joke on us?
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by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
no its way real
if you look up in this same post me and chris barton are talking about this same thing
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PRIDE fan boy
I dont believe it.
I didn’t even know Coleman had daughters. I thought he had twin boys.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Real, It's Damn Real!
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
Im really not.
The picture looks photoshoped, thats all.
Im not saying it didn’t happen.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
heres a vido of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ubkd1_2w8Y
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PRIDE fan boy
Wow. I never even saw that.
I can’t believe they let his kids in there.
Terrible.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to take every chance you have available to meet Fedor.
by Unabomberman on Jun 14, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I have met Fedor.
Three different times. I got pictures and autographs.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
and the brought them to the ring right after the loss
…. awful stuff.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
How aful it must have been.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Aldo vs Hominick
I showed my brother that fighter after we watched UFC 131 and he said that was one of if not the best fight he’s ever seen. He’s kind of a casual fan but he’s seen pretty much everything from UFC 90 to now either watching them live, my DVR, or me showing them to him on the internet.
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
At least one legendary fighter involved
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PRIDE fan boy
griffin vs bonnar
has at least one legend involved?? thats news to me
by HeadKckGdnight on Jun 14, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Like it or not
Forrest Griffin counts.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
forrest counts man..tuf winner..champ at 205..he counts
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aldo almost counts
first ufc fw champ, last wec champ. undefeated career in the wec-ufc, plenty of highlight worthy ko’s
hes not as high profile, but his accomplishments surpass forests
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
forrest is 6'4
That is one accomplishment Aldo will never match.
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
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by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 3:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He’s still young, give him time for petes sake
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by crinow on Jun 14, 2011 3:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
love your sig btw
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PRIDE fan boy
I counter your Forrest
With Matt Serra…tuf winner and also champ…is he legendary, too?
by Dabashire on Jun 14, 2011 10:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Forrest is a celebraty, not a legend…damned good fighter, tough SOB, and a funny guy, but legendary is a bit of a reach IMO
by Dabashire on Jun 14, 2011 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Both of them are legends, for obvious reasons if you ask me.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't want to start a big argument
but I agree.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I fight to defend "The American Psycho" any chance I get.
I’m bad, I know.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I know and it's stupid.
There’s so many fights and fighters that takes away from being on the list.
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
It’s for a very mainstream casual audience. Not for us.
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
then bob sapp vs anyone should be on the list
big ol big guy swining ham hawks
i kid i kid
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PRIDE fan boy
His fight with Nog was cool and seeing Cro Cop paste his ass was bad ass as well
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Sapp against Bobby Ologun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoWqOX4uAZw
"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so xxxxxxx stupid." – Phil Baroni
by keyboardwarrior on Jun 14, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed on all fronts except mirko sapp was k1
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PRIDE fan boy
whoops
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Casual = Sakuraba vs Newton?
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
I didn't say they were but
Saying it’s for casuals kind of means you want it to be people they heard of. Do you think the casual fans know Sakuraba or Newton?
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
I didn't say they weren't*
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
Doesn't Aldo being UFC Champ right now
Kind of give him a pass on the legendary criteria?
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
Well it should
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
not at all man..there has been plenty of champs who arent iconic (serra)
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PRIDE fan boy
I'm talking about being the Champ right now when this list is made.
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
seems funny to say/hear but edgar hasnt won a fight since being champ
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PRIDE fan boy
I don't think you're understanding what I saying.
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
Neither
Edgar nor Maynard would be considered legends. Neither is Cain V. or D. Cruze or Jon Jones.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't say they were
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
nonsense
he beat penn, then beat him again.
http://fightdrinker.blogspot.com
by some schmuck in texas on Jun 14, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That doesn’t give you a pass on being a legend. Your reasoning doesn’t make sense to me.
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
in a round about way im getting at what Tim just said
a champ now doesnt translate to being a legend
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PRIDE fan boy
I'm not saying it does at all.
I’m saying as far as putting this list together I think if you’re the CURRENT Champ it should qualify you for the list. That’s all I’ve been really trying to get at. I don’t think being a champ means you’re a legend or that you will be a legend. If that’s what it seemed like I meant then I just said it the wrong way.
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
Yeah
We were confused because you said this:
Doesn’t Aldo being UFC Champ right now
Kind of give him a pass on the legendary criteria?
It’s all good.
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
Yeah sorry
I guess I should never assume people understand exactly what I’m saying(Typing)
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
Yeah...
except it had little relevance, whereas Griffan/Bonnar pretty muched skyrocketed the sports popularity.
yeah...
But I believe the topic was Greatest fights in mma history, not which fight was the best for mma
Personally If I had to watch one fight for the rest of my life and it was between Bonnar/Griffin or Jung/Garcia, I would pick the later…
"Sorry, my ear fell off" - Saku
by Tears of Aoki on Jun 16, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
For as much as I love Wandy and Chuck. Their fight just didn’t do much for me for whatever reason.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 14, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
prob bc everyone and their mom thought it was going to be a quick and brutal ko
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PRIDE fan boy
I don’t need the quick KO to enjoy a fight. It just…I don’t know…I saw it as a good but not great fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 14, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed...at first i was pushing for hendo rampage but then the more ithink about it..it was a goood fight but not best all time
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PRIDE fan boy
I think the occasion made the fight more than the action itself. It had some really fun moments, but just wasn’t up there with certain other fights involving either fighter, IMO anyway.
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably because it was 5 years or so too late
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by crinow on Jun 14, 2011 3:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I agree, and I’ve always been a huge fan of both guys.
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It came to late for me
it needed to be 5 rounds and for a title. And Chuck ruined the third round for me.
However… if Wand has just gone ahead with the soccer kick he loaded up and took a DQ, I’d have loved it anyway.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn Brookhouse I bet you thought Disneyland sucked too
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I wrote a piece on why I think it holds up even in retrospect
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/6/16/1521107/revisiting-ufc-79-liddell-vs-silva
Love that fight, and its context
Tune every heart and every voice,
Bid every care withdraw;
Let all with one accord rejoice,
In praise of Old Nassau.
In praise of Old Nassau we sing,
Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
Our hearts will give while we shall live,
Three cheers for Old Nassau.
by Anthony Pace on Jun 14, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
God that was amazing. The Portland crowd fucking brought it for that fight.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 14, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right that was incredible
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
that was EPIC!!!!
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 3:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lacked the relevance necessary to make the list I’d guess, but I loved it. Nog sweeping Randy was effin crazy.
Still a Beer Monster.
http://www.instrength.com
You're probably right, just shy of relevant enough.
And good call. Handy finally gets the TD, just to get swept into mount 10 seconds later. Nogs last great showing for sure.
i like when randy finally got a td and nog wrapped up a deep darce JUST for randy to somehow survive and get out
i think we were all on our feet
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PRIDE fan boy
Me too, good looking out
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by crinow on Jun 14, 2011 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do people really see GSP/Penn 1 as a good fight?
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by Jack.Barrington on Jun 14, 2011 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
A few bones to pick:
3. Randy Couture vs. Pedro Rizzo
As you said, this was a controversial decision. Also, the fight had a very slow pace. If you want to add a Couture fight, I suggest vs Tito or vs Chuck – Rizzo is neither legendary nor was he recently relevant.
What’s missing:
Any of the best fights from Frank Shamrock, Jens Pulver, GSP, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Chuck Liddell, Rampage Jackson or Wanderlei Silva. Except for Bonnar vs Griffin, all of the fights listed were important for the sport, but far less entertaining than the classic UFC matches I have seen.
"Very broken in his right hand is Martin Kampmann"
"This is the internet: you either have soul-stopping power or you’re a pillow-fisted pansy. There is no middle ground." - woomikee
Gomi vs Diaz
This is stil the best fight I have ever seen. It gives the true meaning of a war and showed why Diaz usually always ends up getting the better of the stand up. Gomi was the Uni best lw at the time and Diaz took everything that he had.
what about nog cro crop
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PRIDE fan boy
GREAT Fight
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the few times I remember a Japaese crowd really getting into the action
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You must not have watched Pride then.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec...everytime fedor threw up an armbar..they were pleased
also golf claps for transitions
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PRIDE fan boy
by gxc on Jun 14, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the difference
is what HE means by “really getting into the action”. The Japanese crowed was usually very quiet, but that fight the got more hyphy than usual.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Chris
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not as many as a lot of people on here
And never live. That fight just stands out, I know you know what I mean that the crowed could be so quite you could hear a pin drop.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Great Pride moments in commentary
Quadros: It’s so quiet in here you could hear a pin drop
Bas: Yea! I bet you could hear a bottle breaking too!
Us: ….what the fuck?
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m staying within your criteria and don’t disagree with any, just tossing a few out.
Fedor vs. Nog
Bas vs. Masakatsu Funaki
Bas vs. Randleman
Rizzo vs. Barnett
Rampage vs. Forrest
Hughes vs. Sherk
Couture vs. Liddell I
Anderson vs. Chonan
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If i had to pick one fromyour list, my fav fight would be
Couture vs. Liddell 3
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
anderson Chonan?
That heel hook was sick but…… Anderson goes on to become death incarnate. His greatness is being ignored.I feel like he isn’t being fairly represented on this list.
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by the-gentle-way on Jun 14, 2011 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's impossible to bring something like that down to ten, so it's hard to say much.
Glad to see Sakuraba vs. Newton there.
Shogun Machida 1
I could watch that fight every day
I am Genuinely going to miss Macho Man Randy Savage. RIP
that fight had such an upsetting ending.
We all know Machida won that fight.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that a typo, or do you really think Machida won the fight (as opposed to the decision)?
"Very broken in his right hand is Martin Kampmann"
"This is the internet: you either have soul-stopping power or you’re a pillow-fisted pansy. There is no middle ground." - woomikee
Machida won that fight hand down.
Check out the damage Shogun had on him after those kicks.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
if you wanna bring up "damage"
I recall a busted lip on Machida and basically twelve of Shogun’s footprints on Machida’s torso.
Tune every heart and every voice,
Bid every care withdraw;
Let all with one accord rejoice,
In praise of Old Nassau.
In praise of Old Nassau we sing,
Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
Our hearts will give while we shall live,
Three cheers for Old Nassau.
by Anthony Pace on Jun 14, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait
If you feel like Machida won “hand down” why would the ending be at all upsetting?
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Dana White had everyone believe different.
Nobody give the Dragon his proper due. I mean, didn’t you guys watch Machida/Couture??
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok
I think this guy is trolling us. All his comments on this article are crazy!
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
trolling?
Like fishing? i dont get it.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes It's kind of like fishing
Waiting for someone to take the bait.
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
I hope this is some kind of new member rassing or something.
I really dont want to be joked on all the time.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure if I should take up for this guy, bc he's not trying to troll
Or if he’s the greatest troll i’ve ever seen, bc he makes me feel that way.
You sir are an enigma
I am Genuinely going to miss Macho Man Randy Savage. RIP
Danago is the greatest troll I've had the pleasure of meeting
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 14, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I seriously have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Whatever ‘trolling’ means im sure it does not apply to me. If you guys consider Dana a troll then you have me confused.. Im not like Dana..
I hope this is just a new guy thing that will pass. I really enjoy this site.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't sweat it dude
Just brush up on your internet lingo.
Troll – One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.
Sometimes folks will do that just to be pricks.
And if you are an undercover troll, then you just won troll of the year. I hope that cleared things up.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
by DayGeaux on Jun 14, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
How did you feel about the decision?
Did the judge’s decision affect your opinion of the fight itself? Who did you think was the correct winner?
I thought Shogun was robbed, and was very happy with how the second fight turned out.
"Very broken in his right hand is Martin Kampmann"
"This is the internet: you either have soul-stopping power or you’re a pillow-fisted pansy. There is no middle ground." - woomikee
The second fight proved nothing..
That kick the dragon landed in Toronto says it all.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Shogun won the fight
And he got his the second time around. I love both fighters so much that I couldnt really get emotionally involved in the decision. I remember genuinely not caring.
I am Genuinely going to miss Macho Man Randy Savage. RIP
The second fight was obviously a fluke.
Did you not see what Machida did to the legend Randy Couture?
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
And it is a perfect representation of why I watch MMA. I want 1990s Van Dame moves that actually work in a real fight.
I am Genuinely going to miss Macho Man Randy Savage. RIP
Who's Van Dame?
Is he a UFC fighter?
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
hes a frech canadian 90s action star
Fine! I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack.
PRIDE fan boy
And
sexy
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Brilliant character actor
Before his time, really
I am Genuinely going to miss Macho Man Randy Savage. RIP
Yep it's official
" Its like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I coulda been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong, you know, and I'm sorry cause I could be wrong right now, I could be wrong, but I'm right..." Bama
Still a Beer Monster.
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by Tim Burke on Jun 14, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
damn i thought he was actually confused :( stupid me
Fine! I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack.
PRIDE fan boy
I dont get it?
Are you guys playing a joke on me?
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure someones already said it
by my favorite fight of all time is Sakuraba vs Royce Gracie.
I don’t think it would count, but the story behind it along with the epicness of the fight itself warrants consideration.
"eat a dick" - Chris Barton
You sir
are a gentleman and a scholar.
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
A guy who has a Chris Barton quote as his signature agrees with Chris Barton. Curious.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 14, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ha
I’m sure you know where it comes from. It just came out of the blue in that post and I couldn’t stop laughing.
"eat a dick" - Chris Barton
I remember it. That's one of Barton's finer moments.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 14, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The epicness of the fight itself?
90 minutes of intermittent low kicks from Saku = epicness? Watching that fight in it’s entirety was one of the worst decisions of my life.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 14, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're a terrible human being
1. Anderson Silva is waiting for you to punch him.
2. That guy is Anderson Silva.
3. Don't fucking punch that guy.
by Chris Barton on Jun 14, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
Maybe I’m just a snob but I absolutely love that fight and the one with Newton.
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The Newton fight is better,
and Saku/ Royce had a few fun moments, but it was too lackadaisical for my tastes. 90 minute fight with like 5 minutes of good action. No thanks.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 14, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t disagree with this list. But I have a feeling 5 years from now, a lot of this will be shuffled depening on the future of some of the MMA fighters.
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Obviously a list like this is never going to please everyone- heck all four of us could barely agree -
I would have loved to have heard this debate.
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by Damnatio Memoriae on Jun 14, 2011 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
So that’s how you put a strikethru on something… learn something new every day
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by Damnatio Memoriae on Jun 14, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved
Hendo v. Wanderlei Great fight. Lots of tension. Spinning backfist sets up the win!
Use more judges.
Beltran vs. Rosa has to be up there
Has to be.
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Problem is
Neither of thos fights really involve legends IMO. Awesome fights, two of my favorite
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by sitnam90 on Jun 14, 2011 5:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wanderlei vs. Rampage 2!!!!
Where is it? Anny list of the top fights where the second fight between Wanderlei Silva and Rampage jackson is not among the very top is utterly flawed!
High stakes. Legendary fighters. Insane back and forth drama. Can be watched over and over and over. Up and down with all aspects of the sport. And ends with one of the best and most iconic KOs in MMA history.
Also, the Griffin vs. Bonnar fight is nice and have alot of historic significance, but ever since I sat down and rewatched it, I have felt it was a bit overrated (WAY to sloppy). It meant alot when it happend, since we all knew it was important to the future of the sport, but there are tonnes of fights that are far better…
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HAWK TIME!
you didnt blow it at all.
With the criteria involved, this is a damn good list.
My only critique is in the Diaz-Gomi fight write-up. There could have been more written about how late in the 1st & early in the 2nd that Nick started taking over the stand-up in a major way after Gomi started to gas. It read like Gomi had the advantage striking the whole fight.
by The Hamburger Pimp on Jun 14, 2011 4:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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by The Hamburger Pimp on Jun 15, 2011 3:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
tito vs the good shamrock
and by that I mean Frank.
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by exsanguinator on Jun 14, 2011 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I thought Tito only got his shit beat in that fight. But maybe I'm not remembering correctly.
He was in top control a lot. And losing. A lot.
by Unabomberman on Jun 14, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
All three time Tito fought Ken Shamrock should be on the list.
Historic trilogy right there. Historic.
by LumberJack Larry on Jun 14, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Nogueira-Sapp
There will never be another fight like that, for many reasons. I also like Bas Ruten-Frank Shamrock (the one where they go through the ropes). But great list.
by Trust Doesn't Rust on Jun 14, 2011 5:34 PM EDT reply actions
those are great fights
we eliminated Pancrase fights from consideration since they weren’t really MMA rules. Nog-Sapp is an alltime classic
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
This must have killed Snowden.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Jun 15, 2011 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I am Pancrase’d out with my new book. It is more inside than anything I’ve written about the promotion before. Really excited by it.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 15, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah, I did not know you were working on that. Very exciting! Got a title or tentative release date yet?
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by Fraser Coffeen on Jun 15, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The new book
Is called “Shooters.” It’s about the real life tough guys in wrestling, from the 1800’s through the LESNAR era. My eyes hurt from reading all these old newspaper scans, but there is some good stuff in there I hope. But there is a whole chapter on Pancrase and I got some people to really open up nicely.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 16, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
That sounds gnarly.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 16, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You just got me excited
I really got into the Pancrase bits of Total MMA
Bob Sapp vs. Rodrigo Nogueira Bob "The Beast" Sapp is 400 pounds, and if 300 pounds of it aren’t pure steroids, then someone has got to be fucking kidding. -SeanBaby
Shogun v Lil Nog
That fight was wild. And the best back and forth Nick Diaz fight was against Paul Daley, not that gogoplatas aren’t great and all, but I remember thinking that Gomi was getting destroyed.
Gomi shattered Diaz'
orbital bone and won a round.
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Not one mention of Joachim Hansen vs, Caol Uno in these comments
BE, I am disappoint
it's a great fight
but read the criteria
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone may have mentioned that one. Someone. A smart man.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 15, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Sakurai/ Hansen is fucking gnarly.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 15, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Shogun/Machida I
I think it’s pretty much the greatest striking match I’ve ever seen in MMA. It’s Sakuraba/Newton on the feet.
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that is a great fight
i need to watch it again
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Condit vs. Kampmann
Maybe no “legendary” fighters involved, but it was still a fight of entertaining scrappy technical mastery.
Fitch's clinch.
Hell yes
Solid, solid fight. I’m not to high on the ‘legendary’ criteria. I can think of tons of fights that were more entertaining then Newton/Sakuraba
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by sitnam90 on Jun 14, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you don't appreciate grappling if you say that
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I appreciate grappling
But I like MMA grappling, where fighters use the diverse set of striking techniques available to them. Newton/Sakuraba is just a horribly overrated fight. Torres/Mighty Mouse was much better in terms of MMA grappling
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Not one of the greats maybe, but I loved that fight.
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Jun 14, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So when ...
… do we see the “10 worst” list?
by Beau Dure on Jun 14, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
the early prides
and early ufcs would dominate.
there’s nothing in the modern era that approaches Shamrock-Severn 2 or Severn-Kimo or Takada-Bernardo. not even close.
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Shamrock vs. Severn 2 is usually the go-to example for terrible fights, but man is Severn vs. Kimo awful. There are a lot of 30 minute clunkers from those early shows – toss in Shamrock vs. Taktarov, and the entire abysmal semi-final and final round of the Ultimate Ultimate.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Jun 15, 2011 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Poor Severn. He basically gave up his UFC gig to go to Pride and then stunk up the joint so badly he lost that job too. Bad week.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 15, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Shamrock/ Gracie 2 is also horrible.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 15, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d have Rampage vs Chuck 1 on here.
When I first saw that I was all “Chuck is gonna do well in this tournament.”
It's just a world, it's just a life.
Chuck didn't get many licks in
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
That was a cringe inducing beating.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 15, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Maurice Smith vs. Mark Coleman.
Both guys should be acknowledged more, honestly. Dramatic because Coleman was a force to be reckoned with at the time, and no one figured out how to make Coleman fight oxygen quite yet. Also makes cross-training a must in the sport.
by mountaineers101 on Jun 14, 2011 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
that was a great fight
and I have written on it but it just doesn’t hold up to repeated viewings. too much laying in the guard.
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, that was one of the most aggressive guards ever! I love that fight.
by Jonathan Snowden on Jun 15, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody remembers Frank Shamrock vs. Enson Inoue
but at the time that was considered one of the greatest fights up to that point. The pacing of the fight is probably to slow for the modern fan, I suppose, but it builds up to great finish. It was hitoric Shamrock gave us the first glimpses of what of a modern MMA fighter would look like in that fight.
that was an incredible fight
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
too many of his fights
were in Pancrase which we didn’t include for consideration
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I get the logic
But it still makes me wanna cry
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My list using that criteria
1. Nick Diaz vs. Takanori Gomi – PRIDE 33 – 2007
2. Eddie Alvarez vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri – DREAM 5 – 2008
3. Jorge Santiago vs. Kazuo Misaki 2 – SRC 14 – 2010
4. Fedor Emelianenko vs. Mirko CroCop – PRIDE Final Conflict 2005
5. Takanori Gomi vs. Jens Pulver – PRIDE Shockwave 2004
6. Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Carlos Newton – PRIDE 3 – 1998
7. Randy Couture vs. Vitor Belfort 1 – UFC 15 – 1997
8. Quinton Jackson vs. Dan Henderson – UFC 75 – 2007
9. Lyoto Machida vs. Mauricio Rua 1 – UFC 104 – 2009
10. Melvin Manhoef vs. Evangelista Santos – Cage Rage 15 – 2006
No UFC fights in the top 5 huh?
PRIDE FANBOY
(great list though)
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 14, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
good list
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
no love for Royce?
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by Nate Wilcox on Jun 15, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Griffin vs Bonnar...
*sigh
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by SentientAndroid on Jun 15, 2011 9:29 AM EDT reply actions
You stop that right now.
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by doonerthesooner on Jun 15, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
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