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UFC Making Push for MMA Regulation in New York

Sheldon Silver, Speaker of the House, NY State Assembly.

The UFC has been pushing for MMA regulation in New York for several years now. This year it's passed the State Senate, but that hurdle has been cleared before. It's now trying to work its way through the New York State Assembly. Today it passed the Codes Committee by a 17-1 vote. Now it has to get through the Ways & Means and Rules Committee. Unfortunately, that committee is controlled by Speaker Sheldon Silver, an avowed opponent of MMA. 

UFC president Dana White put an op-ed in the New York Daily News today pushing things along. Here are some highlights:

MMA is completely different from the spectacle New York legislators banned back in the 1990s.

When MMA first came to the United States, it was modeled after a Brazilian sport known as vale tudo - "anything goes." Its early days were marked by a distinct lack of strong regulation - no weight classes, no time limits and no rules.

In 2001, MMA reinvented itself. The Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts were written and adopted by the leading regulatory bodies working closely with promoters, including the UFC. The rules include provisions for weight classes, rounds and time limits. Dangerous maneuvers are totally outlawed. In the UFC, we have multiple ringside doctors at every fight, mandatory pre- and post-fight MRIs, comprehensive drug testing and a competitive atmosphere.

If a fighter gets a concussion, he is forced to sit out of matches and training for a mandatory period determined by the regulatory body overseeing the event. No other professional sport has such strict concussion rules.

All of those changes have produced two incredibly positive results: First, no athlete has suffered a serious injury in the history of UFC - nothing beyond a broken bone. Second, the sport has gained worldwide popularity and firmly established itself as the fastest-growing sport in the country.
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At this point, it's very odd that New York would allow and even celebrate a sport like football, in which people have experienced serious and lasting physical injuries, and cling to the fiction that MMA is legalized assault.

How successful would the sport be here? We got a taste a few weeks ago. A fight at the Rogers Centre in Toronto brought in ticket sales at the gate of more than $12 million - the largest for any event ever held at the arena. The sellout crowd of more than 55,000 - bigger than when an NFL game was held there - poured in to the city early and stayed late, purchasing arena concessions, staying in hotel rooms, dining at restaurants and taking taxis.

I am positive that an event in New York would have the same kind of success. While Madison Square Garden is obviously a pinnacle for any sport, we have a large fan base in cities like Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester and Albany, all of which could use the economic lift.

We commissioned an economic impact study to demonstrate how much revenue one of our events would generate for the State of New York. The study, by HR & A, found that sanctioning MMA in New York City would generate more than $23 million in net new economic activity. In Buffalo, an event would generate $5.2 million in economic activity.

Those figures assume only two UFC events, and we estimate we could do as many as three per year in New York State.

Little wonder momentum is growing to overturn the ban. The state Senate recently voted overwhelmingly to sanction mixed martial arts and the Assembly's tourism committee followed suit; now it's time to allow a full Assembly vote.

The sports capital of the world deserves access to one of the world's fastest-growing sports, one that will bring money and jobs to state and local businesses.

We'll see if White's PR and lobbying effort works very soon.

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I don't even think it's getting to one this year.

I don’t believe there’s enough time for it to get it’s chance in another committee given Silver’s opinion.

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by asa on Jun 13, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have very little faith in this bill. Im not sure Sheldon Silver will even let it get to committee.

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by ProfessorBLove on Jun 13, 2011 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

This is a case where there are older people who have a preconceived notion that’s negative about the sport of MMA, and their values and viewpoints won’t change. I remember Reilly being against health care for UFC fighters and said that what needs to be eliminated is injuries in the first place, which just goes to show how ignorant these people are and how stubborn, incorrigible and one-sided their opinions are. MMA can be making millions in neighboring states and other countries, but that’s just not going to change the minds of some of these older assemblymen and whatnot. It really is a matter of these people simply not knowing something like MMA, and formulating an opinion based upon their ignorance. I too have very little faith in this bill and would be surprised if it gets far. I want it to, but I just can’t see it.

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by chrisbboy82 on Jun 13, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

:*( jesus

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by ProfessorBLove on Jun 13, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nicely done DW

Whether or not it makes any difference remains to be seen. But it’s nice to be reminded that while he sometimes is a brash loud jerk. Dana White is a fuckin boss and can handle his shit with the suits too.

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by dgonz on Jun 13, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The UFC will not hold 3 events a year in NY

The taxes are too high.

The UFC hosts most of their shows in Nevada not just b/c of the casinos, but there is no income tax if I recall.

by Sokonojudo on Jun 13, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Nevada

Has income tax. We don’t have state tax.

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by Chris Barton on Jun 13, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a resident of buffalo, I approve of this message

Thank you UFC fans. My name Stun Gun. I want GSP

by crinow on Jun 13, 2011 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Word. Buffalo could use the economic push.

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by KingBrody on Jun 13, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was really expecting something different.

“It’s passed the State Senate, we got a fucking 17-1 vote from the Codes people, come election time these politicians better find out if they want to be a fucking assemblyman! If they don’t then I can promise WE WONT LEAVE IT IN THE HANDS OF THE JUDGES AGAIN!” – D fucking W

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by DayGeaux on Jun 13, 2011 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

if people in NY want MMA events

they’ll eventually get them, just like Ontario did.

otherwise, they can just drive to New Jersey, Pennsylvania, or Ontario.

I don’t get what all the fuss is about. I know it’s frustrating for the MMA fans in NYC, but for the rest of us, it just doesn’t seem like a big deal.

by Clifford J on Jun 13, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

ha ha

yeah, i agree with you. but the thing is people love boxing in NYC. from what i hear, they just don’t love MMA to the same degree.

when the UFC came to toronto, it electrified the whole city. even alt. weekly papers with left wing audiences were reporting on it. every major media outlet covered it.

the sad thing is if it happens in NYC it would just not get that level of attention, or even the attention that pacquiao would get it if he fought a sack of sweet potatoes.

the question is, what do we do? do we legalize the sport so we can grow its popularity? or do we grow the popularity so we can legalize it?

more and more i’m starting to think, given that it’s legal in jersey, etc., that we should do the latter.

also: this is based on my understanding from my buddies who live in NYC. if i’m wrong, i’m wrong.

by Clifford J on Jun 13, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have a ton of buddies in the city who are dying for the UFC to come to the Garden

could you imagine GSP/Silva at the Garden? Gwen Stefani voice B-A-N-A-N-A-S

Tune every heart and every voice,
Bid every care withdraw;
Let all with one accord rejoice,
In praise of Old Nassau.
In praise of Old Nassau we sing,
Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
Our hearts will give while we shall live,
Three cheers for Old Nassau.

by Anthony Pace on Jun 13, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Throw Lesnar on that card (provided he has a comeback win by the time it’s regulated) and you can probably snag 2 million buys if the rest of the card has great fights. People love when you visit a new city, and the response in New York would be huge. If there’s anything New Yorkers love more than their crappy pizza (Chicago makes their pizza look like shit in comparison), it’s themselves.

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by Tim Bernier on Jun 13, 2011 9:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

depends on where you get the pizza

Manhattan = shit
Queens = fantastic

Tune every heart and every voice,
Bid every care withdraw;
Let all with one accord rejoice,
In praise of Old Nassau.
In praise of Old Nassau we sing,
Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
Our hearts will give while we shall live,
Three cheers for Old Nassau.

by Anthony Pace on Jun 14, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clifford: You are very, very wrong. I’ve lived in New York my entire life. I grew up in Long Island, lived in upstate NY for 4 years during college, and now I live in the city. Point is, I’ve spent considerable time living all around this state and there is a HUGE fan base for the sport.

When the UFC comes to Jersey, for instance, I think something like half the audience is made up of New Yorkers. I might be a little off, but the point is that a large portion of the tickets get sold to NYers. A couple years back the UFC put UFC 79 on a closed circuit feed on screens in MSG, had Matt Serra and Forrest Griffin there signing autographs, and sold tickets. A shit ton of people showed up just to watch the damn thing on TV.

There are MMA and BJJ gyms constantly popping up. Kids in high schools are walking around town with TapOut and UFC gear. For every show, I usually get between 5 and 10 of my buddies together who are all into it.

If the UFC comes to NY, not only will they sell out MSG within minutes for the first show, but the UFC will continue to sell out MSG every time they come here. We have a MASSIVE amount of people all confined to one small geographic area in the city alone. Add in the tickets that will be sold to people on Long Island, upstate, and in Jersey, and you can bet that NY will immediately become one of — if not the — biggest markets for MMA in the country.

by dropkick101 on Jun 13, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If the UFC gets into NY, it’ll be the biggest benefit to their bottom line in a long time. Probably a bigger deal than Brock.

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by Rundownloser on Jun 13, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still disappointed that he fucked Boston so hard. James fucking Toney as a co-main eventer is like a roundhouse kick to the balls for a first big event.

by Austin Martin on Jun 13, 2011 5:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

Forget the two huge LW fights that sandwiched that fight on the card.

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by Worldisart on Jun 13, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

From now on, I'm avoiding all NY MMA news until it's passed, be it ten years or within the month

Let the fighters fight, let the referees ref, but dear God, don't let the judges judge.

by halitosis on Jun 13, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

17-1 in a committee doesn’t look like something that doesn’t have to support to get through the whole thing. Just put it up for a vote you jackasses.

by Phildo on Jun 13, 2011 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

So,

you wanna legalize a fucking sport?

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by doubleleg on Jun 13, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I really want to watch UFC in my home state, I hope this happens.

by dpk875 on Jun 13, 2011 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

It's Not Just About the UFC

From Manhattan to Suffolk County, there isn’t a single week that passes that there is not some sort of Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, or Grappling event. There is also money to be made in the amateur arena. There are already plenty of quality MMA training facilities in the Metro area, and the legalization of MMA could lead to an influx of talent and popularity into the sport. You’re talking about an area that not only has a rich tradition in boxing, but in wrestling as well. MMA is meant to be in New York.

by GogoPlatter on Jun 13, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

the pic reminds me of Jim Carrey in Lemony Snickets

“Why so glum?”

“MMA just died in New York.”
“Ah yes, of course. How very, very awful. Wait! Let me do that one more time.”

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by tigerlee on Jun 13, 2011 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

As someone who lives on the opposite end of the country from New York, I really don’t care a whole lot about this. I don’t know if I should but I don’t.

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by Earl Montclair on Jun 13, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

A huge match in MSG would be special for the sport. It is the mecca for combat sports or “sports entertainment”. Think of all the classic boxing matches, all the WWE great moments, the Golden Gloves, etc. A huge match in the media capital of the world in the world’s most famous arena would signify a “crossing over” for the sport. Unfortunately, I don’t think we will see it for some time. The majority of NYers aren’t for it so there is no urgency for any high level politician, like Silver, to stick their neck out and push it thru.

Initiative comes to thems that wait.
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by memitim on Jun 13, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well the majority rules and if they don't want it, oh well we try again next time

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by Earl Montclair on Jun 13, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s OK. You probably care about as much as I do about tape-delays :)

by OmoPlata on Jun 14, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't either.

If NY politicians want to be stubborn for no reason, fuck ‘em. Sucks for the fighters and fans in NY, but I couldn’t care less whether UFC goes to Madison Square Garden. Sin City is the fight capital nowadays, any who. Viva Las Vegas!

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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 14, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is not nearly enough.

The UFC has to black out New York completely. Close down all affiliations with the state, prevent any broadcasts from being shown there, refuse to do any promotional related stuff there, sell no merchandise there, etc. Force the fans to get tough on the state government. If the fans can’t convince the legislators to unban it, then they can force them out of office. If they can’t do that, then maybe NY is worth catering to in the first place.

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by Wrestling Uber Alles on Jun 13, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Great idea!

Let’s punish the fans of MMA in NY because their polititians don’t listen to them!

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by Worldisart on Jun 13, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That would be counter-productive and make zero sense. NY is a busy sports area. You take it away something else will quickly fill its place and now you have just lost the #1 media market in the US. Not a good idea. Here’s the bottom line. 55% of NYers disapprove of MMA being regulated while 39% want it. Till that changes it is going to be very difficult to get it approved. That will change with a generational shift. But, if you pull the sport from the state then no one will care. There is too much going on here.

Initiative comes to thems that wait.
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by memitim on Jun 13, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

where did you get those numbers from?

i live outside the city and work there everyday in the summer and winters, the real bottomline is that noone cares about it passing outside of mma fans.

theres a handful of vocal and outspoken critics, but overall most people simply dont give a shit about the sport since they simply know nothing about it.

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by milk72 on Jun 13, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

So forget about New York. Bring the UFC to Italy. We appreciate fighting. New York is a lost cause.

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by Wrestling Uber Alles on Jun 13, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats not the whole case

alot of new yorkers simply dont give a shit about sports. its something like mma fans we have a very dedicated, vocal, and die hard hardcore fan base but for every guy who bleeds giants blue and jets green theres some asshole who thinks the yankees won the superbowl the past 9 years. just like how we have the educated and smart mma fans and the just bleed guy

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by milk72 on Jun 13, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Sienna poll. MMafighting did an article about it. Here is the link: http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/06/13/as-vote-nears-new-poll-shows-new-yorkers-still-object-to-mma-sa/

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by memitim on Jun 13, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

the problem is that people want it, it’s just stuck in political bullshit.

If the whole assembly voted on it, it would pass, but one guy has the power to allow the vote, so without him wanting it, nothing can happen.

That’s the part that’s bullshit, people want it, the governor wants it, most of the 2 houses of legislature want it, but it can’t get done until 1 guy gives the ok.

by Phildo on Jun 13, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

55% of NYer’s don’t want it. Till that changes there is no urgency to overturn the ban for politicians. It’s going to take some time. Dana needs to take out that op-ed in every paper in NY and then some to educate people about the sport so that number can change. And they need a real champion in Albany, especially in the Assembly.

Initiative comes to thems that wait.
I WAS WRONG ABOUT JOE!

by memitim on Jun 13, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live in Florida

I went on vacation to NYC once, saw Ground Zero, Empire State Building, the Statue of Liberty, all that stuff.

I doubt I’ll go back any time soon, and I am 100% sure that I will never live there.

On top of that, I don’t see a lot of the appeal of seeing an MMA event live, I prefer watching it on a TV with the angles and the commentary…it’s also much quieter.

But I hope every day that New York finally legalizes MMA. It’s just a matter of principle…this needs to happen, I mean, come on? It just ticks me off.

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by Chris Groves on Jun 13, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn…I’ll green this.

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by KingBrody on Jun 13, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone find his injury claim kind of strange?
First, no athlete has suffered a serious injury in the history of UFC – nothing beyond a broken bone.

While there has been no deaths in the octagon there has certainly been more than a broken nose. Corey Hill comes to mind…

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