Georges St. Pierre Discusses UFC 129 Eye Injury
by Tim Burke on May 6, 2011 1:31 PM EDT
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UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre has been the subject of much discussion and ridicule since his UFC 129 decision win over Jake Shields. Fans and media alike have been harsh in their criticism, but one of the major game-changers in the fight was Shields inadvertently poking GSP in the eye in the third round. GSP came back to his corner and said he couldn't see out of his eye, and had considerable trouble finding his range for the rest of the fight.
There has been much speculation about the severity of his injury since the fight, so St. Pierre turned to twitter today to give his fans an update on his condition:
I am so lucky my BJJ instructor Bruno Fernandes is an ophtamologist!!! I'll be in good hands!!!
My medical condition is called Hyphema. My vision is still blurry and my eye sensitive but the blood in my eye has now been absorbed...
My retina is find as well and my vision will come back to 100%!!! Can't be more happy!!
According to the all-knowing Wikipedia:
Hyphema is blood in the front (anterior) chamber of the eye. It may appear as a reddish tinge, or it may appear as a small pool of blood at the bottom of the iris or in the cornea.
Treatment of hyphema consists of 4 major tenets:
1. Light activity or even bedrest (to prevent a rebleed into the anterior chamber, which may cause obstruction of vision, or a painful rise in pressure)
2. Elevation of the head of the bed by approximately 45 degrees (so that the hyphema can settle out inferiorly and avoid obstruction of vision, as well as to facilitate resolution)
3. Wearing of an eye shield at night time (to prevent accidental rubbing of the eyes during sleep, which can precipitate a rebleed)
4. Avoidance of pain medications such as aspirin or ibuprofen (which thin the blood and increase the risk of a rebleed - instead, acetaminophen can be used for pain control).
The vast majority of hyphemas resolve on their own without complication.
Some cases of non-resolving hyphemas, or hyphemas that are associated with high pressure, may require surgery to clean out the anterior chamber and prevent corneal blood staining.
He stated that the blood has already been absorbed, so it would appear that there will be no complications and he will be just fine. Now we can get onto bigger questions - does he face Nick Diaz next? Anderson Silva? Someone else?
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Did anyone see the thread at the UG
that talked about how many different eye pokes there were in this fight? There were at least 3 of 4. Makes me kind of wonder if they were intentional.
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
by dgonz on May 6, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I think
They were probably really lame attempts at clinches.
"I am going to punch faces." --Wanderlei Silva
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Really Really lame attempts. They both feared each others ground game, but I was surprised (a little) by the hesitance of GSP.
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i wasnt jakes ground game is at least 2X gsp's
And Jakes striking should have been 1/8th. It seems though without the fear of the takedown gsp’s vaunted strikings isn’t quite what we thought.
all and all I hope his eye is ok.
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by the-gentle-way on May 6, 2011 2:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Huh?
Just due to the fact that GSP didn’t struggle with his TDD means the grappling disparity was nowhere that much.
And GSP was dominating Shields pre-poke and he still beat him post poke. Fear of takedown had nothing to do with it, the fact that shields can’t close his danm fist did
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by sitnam90 on May 6, 2011 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You should post a link.
This is the first i have heard of multiple eye pokes in the fight.
Jules: Normally, both your asses would be dead as fucking fried chicken, but you happen to pull this shit while I'm in a transitional period so I don't wanna kill you, I wanna help you. But I can't give you this case, it don't belong to me. Besides, I've already been through too much shit this morning over this case to hand it over to your dumb ass.
Check it out
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=1813246
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
by dgonz on May 6, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yea, it's definitely an eye brow raiser. I thought it was only once.
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
by dgonz on May 6, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow WTF!
Some of them he clearly throws an openhanded strike hoping to get him in the eye. I dont care if people say it accidental you dont throw openhanded strikes! i mean come on look at these.
Jules: Normally, both your asses would be dead as fucking fried chicken, but you happen to pull this shit while I'm in a transitional period so I don't wanna kill you, I wanna help you. But I can't give you this case, it don't belong to me. Besides, I've already been through too much shit this morning over this case to hand it over to your dumb ass.
by RJshock 305 on May 6, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and these.
Jules: Normally, both your asses would be dead as fucking fried chicken, but you happen to pull this shit while I'm in a transitional period so I don't wanna kill you, I wanna help you. But I can't give you this case, it don't belong to me. Besides, I've already been through too much shit this morning over this case to hand it over to your dumb ass.
by RJshock 305 on May 6, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Damn, not only it looks intentionnal, but it also almost looks like he practiced it.
I have a hard time to see how the second one can be unintentionnal.
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This is the worst of them all.
He starts the punch with his hands all ready open and aims right for the eye. How can you tell me this is not intentional.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GahwhgL2Srg
Jules: Normally, both your asses would be dead as fucking fried chicken, but you happen to pull this shit while I'm in a transitional period so I don't wanna kill you, I wanna help you. But I can't give you this case, it don't belong to me. Besides, I've already been through too much shit this morning over this case to hand it over to your dumb ass.
:O
I initially laughed at first (a grown man slapping another man in a real fight is kinda funny to me), but that’s pretty fucked up! He’s blatantly throwing out open-handed strikes and pawing at GSP’s face, damn man that’s pretty shitty…
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by SentientAndroid on May 6, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
There were not 3 or four eye pokes. The PUNCH that did the damage is the one they showed in the UFC reveiw, I watched that round a few times the strike that did the damage started with open hands as did most strikes from both fighters.
The strike closed to a fist and the small knuckle of Shields left jab went right into the eye, GSP wiped it with the back of his hand as he was backing away. He lost a couple rounds, get over it.
For those who might not know why fighters keep there hands open a lot: one reason is the amount of space you can defend with a palm, another is tightening the fist as it flies forward gives it more power. Also keeping the fist clenched leads to tight muscles, and in MMA there is the added value of allowing the fighter to decide to grab his opponent in the blink between launching and landing.
by mixmaster2669 on May 6, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, I guess none of those GIF files above actually happened. My mistake.
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
by dgonz on May 6, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Dude...
really?
Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!
by SentientAndroid on May 6, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.mcgill.ca/ocularpathology/directors/
guess which one of these guys is also the head of gracie barra canada, and a multiple time world bjj champ.. the answer MIGHT surprise you… if it does you should probably seek help
considering GSP said his trainer is Bruno Fernandes I’d imagine it’s him.
by BROCKLESNAR!!!!! on May 6, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
In the April or May issue of Maxim, GSP says “I’m afraid of losing. I’m afraid of being injured.”
So, next fight, give him a guy with good striking and who likes to brawl. Someone who isn’t afraid to lose. Heck, I think Clay Guida would give him a good fight, no matter the weight.
A brawler??
GSP will take him down over and over again. The end.
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by ANance on May 6, 2011 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn, Guida vs GSP would be interesting except . . . Guida would get storched standing.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on May 6, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Because of this eye poke, I will give GSP a pass in this one, but I don’t know if this shows how good GSP is or how bad Shields’ standup game is. Many are giving Shields a lot of credit for doing better than any other of GSP’s opponents, but is even that moral victory a bit tarnished? While those eye pokes were probably not intentional, I just can’t imagine Shields doing that well against GSP if GSP had use of both of his eyes.
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He's the opposite of Lesnar
Shields is very good defensively, as he knows how to use his jab to protect his head and also knows how to roll with the punch when it does come through. He also maintains his composure when under fire in a way that few can match.
Offensively, he looks pretty bad.
by paythefighters on May 6, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
There is one big thing that I don’t feel that Shields does defensively in the standup, and that is keeping his chin tucked in. That to me is a pretty big defensive flaw. Also, when he kicks, he is upright instead of moving his head/body to the side which avoids a counter-punch.
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The PUNCH that did the damage is the same one the UFC showed in review, the hands were open when it was launched but was a fist when it landed The small knuckle of Shields left jab went right into the eye of GSP.
GSP wiped the back of his hand against it as he was backing away. No need for excuses, although I thought Georges fought to safe through the whole fight. There would have been the danger of a take down if he banged with Shields a little but it would have been a better fight.
Also does anyone remember the blood red eye and 60 day medical layoff Shields got in the Kampmann fight ? That actually came from an un-intentional eye poke Shields blames his less than usual performance on his own bad decisions while cutting weight, not the eye poke.
by mixmaster2669 on May 6, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake, is that you?
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
No matter how many times you post this its still a giant fail
by DCJon. on May 6, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shields red-eye was due to blood between the sclera and conjunctiva. It caneven happen during everyday activities.
http://www.google.com/search?q=subconjunctival+hemorrhage&tbm=isch
GSP had hyphema. Blood got into the anterior chamber and thus scattered the light going to the lens. After the fight, the doctor couldn’t even see the retina through the lens. He was blinking after the eye poke, and as blood gradually started getting in, his vision got worse.
http://www.google.com/search?q=hyphema&tbm=isch
2:20 left in the third is the eye poke. GSP has some long blinks, through some blind counters, and then backs away with his eyes still closed. He keeps his distance for the next few seconds, sticking with a low kick.
The UFC replay is from 2:04 left, which GSP promptly follows with a double jab and stays in the pocket. Jake lands nothing else until GSP wipes his eye at 1:32.
As jealous as I am of your ultra mega high tech 4x-64x super slowmo wonder DVR, I think I’d rather believe GSP, his doctors, and video footage.
by paythefighters on May 7, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He’d be more menacing with the terminator eye, to be sure.
Give him Diaz to jab at for another unanimous decision. I’ll watch regardless.
Why didn't I know about this stuff in '95?
You really think that would be his strategy against Diaz?
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I think we'll see a replay of GSP-Alves
Alves and Diaz aren’t similar, but I think they both fall prey to the takedowns and transition ability of GSP from striking to wrestling. Both are capable strikers, and Diaz especially is a great grappler. But GSP is equally as great and he has the wrestling which enhances every aspect of his game
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by sitnam90 on May 6, 2011 1:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Heh
He kind of looks like the Terminator in that picture.
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i really think
the gsp/diaz fight is a good one, just based on nick’s attitude.
but realistically, gsp is going to hold diaz down for five rounds, and not finish him (because nick is almost impossible to finish) and everyone will whine.
also – silva/okami may very well be a step back to silva’s cote/leites/maia phase, with silva clowning around and acting like a dick for five rounds.
i bet you the superfight will get more momentum after a few months. i have no problem with the matchups being discussed, but it just makes sense.
i can kind of agree with that.
except for the okami being a weird/boring fight like some previous silva fights. while it was a DQ, okami has a win over anderson. and it was anderson’s last official loss in MMA, and he is pretty angry about it (saying that okami could have continued but had the rules in his favor so he didnt). the last time he was mad we got a front kick KO. i think this fight gets finished.
by trickthethaifighter on May 6, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope you're right
but anderson likes to counterstrike. that’s why he looks killer against griffin (who came after him) but terrible against maia and cote (who were scared). if okami comes in very conservative (a possibility) i’m not sure i see anderson charging after him to finish him off.
but you could be right, i’m hoping for some more matrix-style craziness.
Belfort is also a counter striker, it didn’t work out well for him.
".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."
by dancingChicken on May 6, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Cote was not scared. You’re probably confusing him with Leites.
If you think Cote was scared, then you’re probably not familiar with Cote or Mark Dellagrotte.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on May 6, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Diaz, please.
The size difference between GSP and Anderson is too much.
Bones versus Anderson would be more fitting from a size standpoint. Not that I want to see that fight right now either.
by CB_MMA on May 6, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Size wise ya.
However Bones is the perfect fighter to Brutally retire Silva.
Jules: Normally, both your asses would be dead as fucking fried chicken, but you happen to pull this shit while I'm in a transitional period so I don't wanna kill you, I wanna help you. But I can't give you this case, it don't belong to me. Besides, I've already been through too much shit this morning over this case to hand it over to your dumb ass.
Not really. In shape silva and GSP weigh very close to each other. In shape Jones is at least 15-20lbs heavier than Silva.
".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."
by dancingChicken on May 6, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Size is more than just weight. Bones didn’t destroy Shogun because he has 5% more weight than Shogun on fight night.
Silva has a big size advantage. Look at Forrest winging at Silva’s head without reaching it while Silva gets the jab KO. He’s got some longass arms for guy that enters the ring at 190-195lbs. GSP uses his reach well by rotating his torso and bending forward, so it’s not an automatic win for Silva, but it’s a big advantage.
by paythefighters on May 7, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
for all his bitching he made sure he didnt miss the after party
so he had a little blood in his eye and acted like the princess and the pea
french canadian thy name is gsp
by sellmorebooks on May 6, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
so he had a little blood in his eye
And couldn’t see out of it. Going to an Afterparty to chill while half blind, and fighting another human being while half blind are pretty fucking far apart on the “No Big Deal” spectrum
by BKdroid on May 6, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I've had a hyphema
A dumbass shot me in the eye(lid….thankfully) with an airsoft gun. I was completely fine otherwise but I couldn’t see anything but a milky fog for about 2 days in that eye. So yeah he went to the afterparty, who cares.
Not afraid to nitpick
No shit, right?
I can see (haha) how eyes might be important in some sports — baseball, tennis, even hockey; but you don’t need to see your opponent to fight him. You can sense where he is and what he’s doing by the chemical signature his body’s natural processes emit.
by Wrestling Uber Alles on May 6, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
no i mean about the after party
who cares if he went
by sellmorebooks on May 6, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh that
Yes, he should have been home in bed because his eye would certainly heal faster that way than being awake.
by Wrestling Uber Alles on May 6, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha, I was thinking the same thing!
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by SentientAndroid on May 6, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
MMM..A bit odd
I am so lucky my BJJ instructor Bruno Fernandes is an ophtamologist!!! I’ll be in good hands!!!
I would think he will go to world renowned a specialist unless this gut is a genius training GSP and being a top ophthalmologist.
Bruno Fernandes is basically a world-renowned specialist. McGill University, his employer, is one of the top University’s in the world. From the link above, posted by hewsdaddy:
Bruno F. Fernandes, MD, PhD received his medical degree in 2001 from Federal University of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and completed his residency in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. He then enrolled in the PhD program at the Federal university of Sao Paulo, obtaining his degree in 2006. After his PhD, he completed a one-year post-doctoral research fellowship focusing on the ocular cancers. He had subspecialty training in Ocular Pathology under the supervision of Dr. Miguel N. Burnier Jr. at McGill University and Ocular Oncology under the supervision of Dr. Ernest Rand Simpson at The Princess Margaret Hospital/University of Toronto.
Dr. Fernandes has published more than 30 peer-reviewed publications in the areas of ocular pathology and oncology. He has served as a reviewer for major journals in the field of pathology, ophthalmology and oncology. He is also a member of 12 professional associations and has given presentations all-over the world in major international and regional meetings. Dr. Fernandes is currently an Assistant Professor for the Department of Ophthalmology and Pathology at McGill University in Montreal, Canada.
by zorba on May 6, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Next week's posts . . .
- GSP’s eye is 75% healthy. GSP discusses the scientific explanation for his feelings about decisions, grappling and the wild overhand right that clearly demonstrated that he was going for the finish.
- Osama Bin Laden’s daughter discusses her true feelings about her father, the U.S., President Obama and why MMA should be legalized in New York.
- Rashad Evans and Matt Hughes criticize GSP’s performance.
- He stole my tailor – Rashad Evans on Jon Jones
- Despite a great rematch, projected PPV numbers reflect poorly for Edgar vs Maynard III
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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What a fucking wuss.
Frank Dux was blind in both eyes and he still finished his opponent.
by Wrestling Uber Alles on May 6, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
Just so perfect
Turning Bat Shit into BatMan for 27 yrs
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/04/ufc-middleweight-champion-silva-like-water.html
And Frank Dux wasn't afraid to fight a guy above his own weight class!
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by alicks on May 6, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, it's interesting.
Even though Dux won, Chong Li really took advantage of the fact that The Kumite had JUST allowed stomps to the head of a downed opponent and Blinding powder that year. Take that Unifed Rules.
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