USAT/SBN May 2011 MMA Consensus Rankings: Heavyweight
by Richard Wade on May 26, 2011 9:48 AM EDT
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| Rank | Fighter | % | Promotion | Last Rank |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Cain Velasquez | 99 | UFC | 1 |
| 2 | Junior dos Santos | 90 | UFC | 3 |
| 3 | Fabricio Werdum | 90 | Strikeforce | 2 |
| 3 | Brock Lesnar | 90 | UFC | 4 |
| 5 | Shane Carwin | 81 | UFC | 6 |
| 6 | Antonio Silva | 79 | Strikeforce | 5 |
| 7 | Alistair Overeem | 75 | Strikeforce | 7 |
| 8 | Frank Mir | 75 | UFC | 8 |
| 9 | Fedor Emelianenko | 70 | M-1 Global / Strikeforce | 9 |
| 10 | Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira | 52 | UFC | 10 |
| 11 | Brendan Schaub | 39 | UFC | 11 |
| 12 | Roy Nelson | 38 | UFC | 12 |
| 13 | Sergei Kharitonov | 34 | Strikeforce | 14 |
| 14 | Josh Barnett | 34 | Strikeforce | 13 |
| 15 | Brett Rogers | 31 | Strikeforce | 15 |
| 16 | Cheick Kongo | 26 | UFC | 17 |
| 17 | Pedro Rizzo | 24 | Impact Fighting Championship | 18 |
| 18 | Cole Konrad | 24 | Bellator | 18 |
| 19 | Mike Russow | 23 | UFC | 20 |
| 20 | Ben Rothwell | 22 | UFC | 16 |
| 21 | Stefan Struve | 20 | UFC | 21 |
| 22 | Travis Browne | 19 | UFC | 23 |
| 23 | Matt Mitrione | 18 | UFC | 22 |
| 24 | Gabriel Gonzaga | 16 | UFC | 23 |
| 24 | Shane del Rosario | 16 | Strikeforce | 28 |
With #3 Brock Lesnar out due to illness, #2 Junior dos Santos will instead face #5 Shane Carwin at UFC 131 for a shot at #1 Cain Velasquez' title.
#3 Fabricio Werdum will challenge #7 Alistair Overeem in the second round of the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix on June 18 at Strikeforce: Overeem vs. Werdum.
#8 Frank Mir is set to take on #12 Roy Nelson at UFC 130 in a battle of elite heavyweight grapplers.
Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson will be headlined (obviously) by #9 Fedor Emelianenko and light heavyweight Dan Henderson in a catchweight bout.
Based on the premise that all MMA rankings are subjective but that it’s still useful and informative to know who the online MMA community as a whole ranks as the best fighters in MMA, we collect and average the rankings of the top MMA websites to produce our consensus rankings. We compile the top MMA rankings from each of our sources and award 25 points for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. This formula ensures that each ranking site awards the same number of total points regardless of how many fighters they choose to rank. Each fighter’s total is divided by the number of possible points to determine their standing in the Consensus Rankings.
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Shane Carwin went up a spot when the JDS fight was announced...
The JDS effect?
Brock needs to fall in the rankings.
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This always happens. I don’t understand why. People immediately move contenders up, even if they haven’t actually fought. It’s absurd.
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by Leland Roling on May 26, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Okami moved up to #2 just recently as well
Everyone should know these rankings are bullshit, its worthless to even acknowledge them as rankings.
by JudokaLinker on May 28, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ve already established that winning and getting pushed on TV helps you magically shoot up the rankings, but apparently you don’t even have to fight if you’re on TV enough. Meanwhile Werdum and Bigfoot slide back, presumably sucked into the collapse of Fedor’s ranking, who got bitchslapped down to 9th behind two fighters whose most recent conquests are Todd Duffee and The Ghost of Michael CroCop.
These rankings are dying and you empty suits are running around trying to pin some Russian’s pelt to the wall.
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Thought you was a real MMA analyst, brother.
...you did?
Unfortunately, Mir and Schaub have both won fights more recently than Fedor has.
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by Derek Suboticki on May 26, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor hanging in the top 10 for old time’s sake mixed with wishful thinking. They need a cruiserweight division.
by Scabby Knuckle on May 26, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
We definitely do NOT need a CW division.
by OmoPlata on May 26, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
This
I used to like the CW idea, until I realized how abysmally thin HW is already.
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by Dave Strummer on May 26, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
i hear you on CW
the problem is a lot of the top ten HWs would be CW (people like JDS and Cain, for instance). do you really see enough talent on this list to justify splitting it into two divisions?
maybe, in the future, when fat bastards like cole konrad and monsters like brock lesnar are perpetually smothering 230 pound dudes, then we should think about it. until then, i wouldn’t want to water down HW any more than it already is.
Name the top ten HW'
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by Urijah Bieber on May 26, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
name the top ten HW's and CW's in your divisions
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by Urijah Bieber on May 26, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I mean to say I need a cruiserweight division.
by Scabby Knuckle on May 26, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
What would your cruiserweight division look like?
What would the weight limit be? Who would be its top fighters? What would it do to the quality of competition at light heavyweight and heavyweight?
by MichaelDavidSmith on May 26, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d go for a 225 or 230 pound limit, with HW being an unlimited weight class. HW will always be “thin” until more big guys develop broader skillsets and better cardio. Just because it’s a thin crop today doesn’t mean it always will remain so. Particularly when you see how many football players are incorporating MMA into their training regimens, along with natural growth in the sport at the amateur level, the CW and HW classes would eventually get better depth, I believe. Having a CW division would allow some of the LHW guys to fight closer to their natural weight, with some of the 185 guys able to move up to LHW. There would be some adjustments initially, but I wouldn’t base the forecast for the strength of a CW division on who’s fighting at whatever weight today. Having a 60 pound spread between the current heavier weight classes produces too many “tweeners.” Just my take on it.
by Scabby Knuckle on May 26, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Having a 230 or 235 CW and an unlimited HW?!? Not a turrible idea at all…I like it.
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by The American Ronin on May 27, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Barnett has not faced, let alone beat, a top ten heavyweight since 2006. He has done nothing since then to justify a top ten ranking.
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by Derek Suboticki on May 26, 2011 1:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
JDS has been #2 on my personal ranking for awhile now
but I’m still curious as to how he and Werdum traded places without either of them being active. Voters be fickle.
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by Dave Strummer on May 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mir too high (as always), Roy Nelson way too low. Big Nog too high. Fedor deserves #9 until he likely loses to Henderson. Werdum deserves to still be #2 until the Reem horse stomps him. Rizzo and Conrad above Struve… ROFL!
Lastly.. putting Schaub above Nelson is wrong IMO. Nelson knocked him out badly and dominated him before KOing him. Losing a decision to JDS shouldn’t hurt Nelson and beating a completely washed up Cro Cop shouldnt help Schaub much.
Lastly.. putting Schaub above Nelson is wrong IMO. Nelson knocked him out badly and dominated him before KOing him. Losing a decision to JDS shouldn’t hurt Nelson and beating a completely washed up Cro Cop shouldnt help Schaub much.The order isnt really that important though and this list makes more sense than most of the other consensus rankings I have seen.
Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!
by crizzy on May 26, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't know why you guys keep letting Jesse Holland submit a ballot
It’s seriously fucking shameful.
Matt Roth too.
I’m all for the idea that this is a compilation of different opinions and what not, and even if I don’t agree I can see a defensible argument for most points of view, but those two guys submit such ridiculous ideas that it undermines the entire consensus rankings.
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by Matthew Roth on May 26, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It was more of a genrally comment
Your reasoning for your rankings at LHW is downright ludicras. Like indefensibly so.
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Which one are you referring to?
Cause I explained at the bottom my reason. And as I said. I don’t see me jokingly ranking Jones #5 which doesn’t change the overall ranking is worse than Iole ranking Hamill over Phil Davis, Lorenz Larkin over Alex Gustafsson, or Leland ranking Feijao over Phil Davis. Mine had no effect on the rankings. Those have a real effect on Davis’ place.
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by Matthew Roth on May 26, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Quibbling over the #9 guy is a bit different than what you did, would you not agree?
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by The American Ronin on May 27, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Me having a little fun and have no affect on the end result?
No, there is a difference. Mine was meant to stir everyone up which it did without causing any disparity in the #1 spot (consensus!) while rankings of Feijao and Hamill over Davis have a real impact.
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by Matthew Roth on May 27, 2011 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I’m basically JDS’ biggest fan, but even I know that there is absolutely no way he’s number one. Same with Overeem. People that submit rankings like that shouldn’t have enough authority to be part of USAT/SBN rankings.
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he's been ahead of nelson for months now
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by Cory Braiterman on May 26, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
…and still no Cormier, who I would take at even money against at least 10 guys ranked, and probably more like 15…
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by The American Ronin on May 26, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
I suppose not...
perhaps after beating the snowman he will get some love…
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by The American Ronin on May 27, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen
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