Dana White Thinks Chael Sonnen 'Got It Stuck to Him'
by Mike Fagan on May 25, 2011 12:00 PM EDT
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UFC President Dana White recently spoke to Heavy.com about TUF 14, GSP/Diaz, and the future of Strikeforce on Showtime. Toward the end of the interview, he was asked about the CSAC's decision in the Chael Sonnen hearing. Shockingly, White did not agree with the decision:
I'm pretty bummed out about the Chael Sonnen thing and the way that the whole thing was handled. I don't know if there's ever been a penalty laid down, I mean Tyson, I think when Tyson bit the ear, Tyson got a year. It's pretty crazy.
Listen, it's not that he'd have to retire, but right now was his opportunity. This kid had the opportunity to coach The Ultimate Fighter, he had the opportunity to get a big fight set up, should he win that fight. Everybody knows what happened with Anderson Silva, this was a key moment in this kid's career and me, personally, you've heard me say it for the last almost 11 years, we always support whatever the athletic commission says. This kid got it stuck to him, man. He paid his dues in every way shape and form and, I think he's been treated a bit unfairly.
(Transcript provided by Fight Opinon. Cleaned up by me.)
I think everyone can agree that the CSAC handled this situation poorly from the start. The commission should never have reduced his suspension in December, where Sonnen's case relied on hearsay (manager Matt Lindland's conversations, if we believe Chael's clarification, with Keith Kizer), missing paperwork (he failed to provide confirmation for testosterone replacement therapy at UFC 104), and Dr. Mark Czarnecki (who showed up to court chewing gum in his finest black t-shirt).
The controversy surrounding the decision has overshadowed a key fact: Sonnen has been taking testosterone since 2008 without permission from the commission. (And that overlooks the debate about whether commissions should allow TRT in the first place.) To put it bluntly, Chael Sonnen has being using steroids for three years, by his own admission, illegally.
So, it's hard for me to feel bad or feel like Chael ended up on the wrong end of a Cecil Peoples' card, and I say that as someone who believes the steroid hysteria needs to be put down Old Yeller style.
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Not suprised
Chael = Money
Dana <3 Money
by alterbridge on May 25, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Yeah this guy answers
"Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes" Groucho Marx
by KimboLeopoldo on May 25, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i've said it before, and i'll say it again.
i will never get tired of that photo.
thanks – i needed that moment!
by Victor Rodriguez on May 25, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Since when is a man who is 30 something a kid Dana? I think we all get tired of this kid business with Dana , it makes it seem you like are belittling your fighters and that you are above them. Not right, he probably Does it unintentionally due to his massive ego.
by p123 on May 25, 2011 12:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't think he's belittling him as much as he's making excuses for him.
Characterizing Sonnen as a “kid” makes it seem like he was naive, perhaps even misled, and didn’t understand that what he was doing was wrong. C’mon, Dana. Chael Sonnen is 34 years old. He was born before Star Wars came out. Dana’s trying to equate Sonnen with a little boy who steals Skittles from the Golden Pantry, and I think it’s completely irresponsible for an executive to do so.
I was carried to Ohio in a swarm of bees, I'll never marry but Ohio don't remember me.
by Anthony Pace on May 25, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, wasn’t he born the very year Star Wars came out?
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like a month before
I was carried to Ohio in a swarm of bees, I'll never marry but Ohio don't remember me.
by Anthony Pace on May 25, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, I was annoyed by this “kid” thing, very cheap trick to call him that just to make his mistakes seem less flagrant. I don’t see it as any belittling or insult either.
by Horselover Fat on May 25, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it has to do with ego or anything like that. I heard that it’s simply jargon used in combat sports, and it’s not meant to belittle anyone.
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by chrisbboy82 on May 25, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i call other dudes my age kid all the time.
mostly guys slightly younger than me, sometimes even dudes that are older than me. he probably uses it in the same way towards people younger than him.
by Victor Rodriguez on May 25, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like if you were doing TRT, you’d make damn sure you knew what paperwork you needed to file to continue to fight. He’s either lying or has the same brain as my 18 year old daughter who isn’t graduating and has to take summer classes because she didn’t know there was a deadline for turning in the notes for doctor excused absences.
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by splint on May 25, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
…Ouch
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by SentientAndroid on May 25, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been telling her for the past month to not let it wait until the last minute. no, she still thinks it’s not her fault because no one told her about a deadline. Trying to explain to her that that is the exact reason I told her to get on it a month ago is fruitless. Not to mention telling her that it’s not a good idea to use up ALL your allowed absences when your on the bubble with grades and generally not a responsible person.
I just don’t get it, I breezed through high school without ever bringing a book home.
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure.
Oh ok I got ya. Yeah highschool was fun for me, especially my 11th and 12th grade years, but *eh everyone’s different I guess…
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by SentientAndroid on May 26, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a slight problem with it.
The NFL has a pretty rough and strict policy concerning failed test and off the field matters. People don’t have a problem with the rulings because they have a zero tolerance rule and there punishments are equal for anyone who goes against policy.
Take the star caps case for example. Four NFL players got busted for using a banned diuretic. These players went to a lab and proved that an ingredient was left off the ingredients list and cause the failed test. Those players, after 2 years of fighting it in court, will still serve their 4 game suspensions.
I know that Chael’s situation is different than almost any other in all of sports, but unless they say “You’re getting suspended for perjuring yourself” then he’s only getting punished for a tainted test result which would usually serve a 1 year suspension. No other fighter has ever been suspended for felony’s they got outside of the ring. I just think that in order to make the commission be more professional they need to give out suspensions equally. If they put it to Chael for having a felony, then they need to do that to all of the fighters.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
I don't think that played a factor...
I think it had more to do with him cheating and then lying on the Commission’s Executive Director
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Cheating gets a 1 year suspension. He hasn’t been convicted (obvious lying or not) of perjury. If CASAC says “We’re indefinitely suspending Chael Sonnen to pursue a perjury conviction regarding his testimony”, then I have no problems with the suspension at all. As of right now, the only thing they have on him is a failed test.
I think this punishment is a result of the commission being embarrassed because they looked like fools. I don’t think there’s a rule about that in the rule book.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
I don't think
The commission has any business punishing him for his felony conviction. That’s what the judicial system is for.
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On the part of the AC?
I would think so. It’s definitely overstepping the bounds of the purpose they’re meant to serve. Sonnen is being punished for his crimes by a court of law. The CSAC has no business punishing him further for a crime they have no jurisdiction over.
Now I don’t know that that’s what’s happened here, I’m merely opining that if the CSAC is going to level punishment against Chael it should only be for violiations of rules under their governance.
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I agree 100%.
He’s already being punished for the felony. Arbitrary punishment beyond that is grossly unfair.
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true
but i’m a little upset that they kept bringing that up in that last hearing. it’s a separate case with no connection to this one.
by Victor Rodriguez on May 25, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
"To put it bluntly, Chael Sonnen has being using steroids for three years, by his own admission, illegally."
despite all these facts (not to mention the lies and money laundering) why do people still defend this guy??!!
by HeadKckGdnight on May 25, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
I think his humor is the number one reason fans defends him.
Dana is more for money.
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Agreed that that is Dana's consideration.
But when has Chael ever been a proven star attraction?
The guy is mediocre in driving up sales of cards on which he is featured. One of the biggest myths of our times is that Chael Sonnen draws huge PPV numbers.
Now if you put him and Bisping together, you might get good PPV buys but that’s also after an hour long exposure on television for 10 weeks. And that still won’t do a million unless headlined by a Jones and Rashad bout.
The only reason anyone cared about UFC 117 was Sonnen. Put another Maia or Leites in there against Anderson Silva and about 50 people would’ve bought that card.
51
i would have bought it
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on May 25, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Make that 52!
117 was worth buying for Dos Santos vs. Nelson alone. Silva didn’t even have to get out of bed for me to buy that one.
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No. That's a ridiculous proposition.
ONLY reason?
It was the primary reason but not the ONLY reason. When the P4P best in the world fights, you watch, irrespective of how much shit his opponent talks.
And it’s not just them fighting on that card.
Plus UFC 117 buys were mediocre and by no means can anyone on that card be called a PPV draw.
I'm not defending Sonnen. I'm attacking CSAC.
Fagan was right – CSAC should never have reduced his suspension in the first place. If CSAC wasn’t desperately trying now to look competent, they wouldn’t need to suspect Chael for tricking them. They shouldn’t have been tricked.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
trying now to look competent
They might be trying, but from my perspective they’re looking a lot more like teenage girls trying to get revenge than a competent commission.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
…and only because their older sister (Kizer) told them to do it… let’s not forget Kizer in all this, he’s the one actually calling the shots here.
I agree. The commission would’ve never called a second meeting without Keizer calling them. They’re too incompetent to do any actual investigating on their own.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
I don’t know if the comission-bashing here isn’t an overreaction. Kizer was contacted by press DURING the hearing. He responded to Sonnens claim right away. You have no idea wether or not the comission would’ve followed up with him because they never had a chance. It is very likely they would’ve though as there seems to be an ongoing dialogue between the comissions.
Plus I don’t see what was so terrible about Sonnen’s initial hearing. Yes, his doctor looked like crap but is the comission supposed to go by that? IMO they way it went was ok by what I saw in the live stream and after that it was pushed forward by the media and further development in Sonnen’s life.
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Well the Kizer part may be, but not the hearing. I think they should have postponed the hearing until they contacted Kizer to verify or uphold the suspension until further notice. I don’t know how practical that would be, but it’d be better than what they did.
There were so many fishy things going on about that doctor and Kizer said, in the media, days before the trial that he never talked to Sonnen about TRT and that Sonnen shouldn’t bring that up as part of his excuse. Why not investigate that claim? Why didn’t they ask Chael about what Kizer said at the hearing?
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
They should have just rejected Sonnen's testimony.
It was unsubstantiated hearsay. You wouldn’t get away with that in court, and you shouldn’t in AC hearings either. If you’re going to bother swearing people in, you should also maintain some sort of evidentiary standard.
The trouble is, they didn’t do that. So then, when it became clear that he’d just flat-out lied to them to get a reduced suspension, they looked like idiots.
At this point, what they should have done is changed their evidentiary standards so this didn’t happen to them again. But instead, they decided to go back in time and undo their acceptance of Chael’s testimony (and they still haven’t changed their evidentiary standards).
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
not so much defending
just protecting due process and the right of law. The CSAC has no place to punish Sonnen for anything other than failed drug test, end of story. The fact that they went far beyond their bounds and are punishing him for things that should be handled only by the judicial system is wrong on so many levels. I don’t like the guy, but its not my place to say exactly what punishment he should have. In my opinion he served the time the commission set in place like every other person that failed a drug test, he should be cleared to fight.
by Rocejize on May 25, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
People also forget
That essentially he’s still getting off light. Had they held up the initial suspension he’d be out until September. He’s getting two months less than that still, so even then he hasn’t really “paid his dues” for what he was suspended for in the first place.
He’s suspended until his license is up. Then he has to re-apply. We don’t know if the CASAC will reinstate him (I’m thinking not a chance), so we don’t really know how light the suspension is. If he gets rejected he’ll have to wait another year before he can re-apply.
If you can't wow them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.
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for a moment i thought you meant FrumForum.com. that would have been very fucking confusing.
by Victor Rodriguez on May 25, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think Dana White sounds very condescending when he calls grown men kids, Chael Sonnen is not a kid, and has not been one for some time.
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I know what you mean but Dana has 10-20 years on these guys.
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by VeeisAnimated on May 25, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It was one thing when he said it to the TUF guys in there early 20’s, but to a guy nearly in his mid 30’s, it just sounds stupid besides being condescending.
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by Kefka on May 25, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
" The kid had a great career what can I say."
Dana White regarding Randy’s retirement . Lulz.
by p123 on May 25, 2011 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really? Heh I missed that. That’s funny. If he did say that, nobody should be interpreting Dana calling every fighter a “kid” as condescension as he clearly doesn’t lack respect for Randy.
My bad , I was joking. I thought lulz would have suggested sarcasm but hey I’m the idiot who didn’t use the font right? Imagine if he said that though right? Dana makes himself look like an idiot when he says that IMO…
by p123 on May 25, 2011 2:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dana has 10-20 years on these guys
Dana has three years on Chael.
He is younger than Randy, Royce, Ken Shamrock and a number of other guys who have fought for him over the years.
3 years? Dana’s 42, Chael’s 34. That’s 8 years.
And I’ve never heard Dana call Randy, Royce or Ken “kids”. Have you?
Still calling a guy a kid who’s 8 years younger than you when your in your 40s is silly.
by p123 on May 25, 2011 2:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My dad's sixty-five
and he’ll be talking about what some girl he was talking to at the library said. I have to ask how old this “girl” was, because as my dad’s gotten older, the “girl” range has grown to from 6 to 60.
This comment is intended for entertainment purposes only. Any resemblence to the actual truth is entirely coincidental.
If he met her at the library, she probably is either 6 or 60.
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by Llewdor on May 25, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he might still be in puberty.
have his testicles descended?
by Victor Rodriguez on May 25, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
they made an example out of him.
Maybe it’ll be good for the sport in the long run. Who knows. It’s sad to see him gone, though. He was always good for a few dozen laughs.
by Gideon Jay on May 25, 2011 12:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Couture is using it for the same reason Stallone is – he is really, really old. :)
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by outlander78 on May 25, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought that was a myth
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by The Lethal Haze on May 25, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
We all saw him dig his hole live on the internet, nobody here is surprised they’re making an example out of him.
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by spectaa on May 25, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
If "Got it stuck to him" = "Got exactly what he deserved"
I agree
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by underrated ground game on May 25, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
Dana and the Fertittas have been on the Chael diet for years.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on May 25, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Steroids don’t make you taller.
Stand Megan next to a midget like Lorenzo or one of the Joe Silva, and she would look normal sized.
They make you bigger
Add the fact that they look like they all added a bunch of muscle mass to the fact that Dana desparately wants people to think he is a tough guy, and I would be shocked if those guys WERENT doing HGH/PEDs
BOOSH
I honestly don’t care if they do PEDs.
If a non-athlete wants to do steroids, more power to him. In clinical dosages, steroids are completely benign. The ‘reefer madness’ type of propaganda out there regarding steroids is laughable.
Also, steroids aren’t magic. Do they make it a bit easier to gain muscle? Sure … but you still have to put your time in at the gym and at the dining table in order for them to work. Dana & Lorenzo didn’t get big by sitting on the couch and eating Pinkberry. They got big by creating a caloric surplus (including plenty of protein) and putting their time in at the gym. Who gives a shit if they got a little pharmaceutical help along the way?
I just think it's funny and narcissistic
It’s almost like “LOOK WE ARE HUGE AND TOUGH”
There’s no reason to do it besides vanity…unless you are an athlete. By the way, I agree with you that steroids/HGH are relatively safe if monitored.
BOOSH
This makes me like Dana less
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by The Demolition Man on May 25, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions
More importantly: He says Diaz/GSP in Montreal won't happen
and they definitely won’t be coaches on TUF. Also that the deal is far from done. “There’s still some hurdles we have to jump through.”
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
From the interview
“That fight is not a done deal. All the stuff that’s out there about the meeting is bullshit….. We have to make it work, it has to make business sense. It didn’t make business sense for the last guys.”
My translation: “the fight is on but everyone needs to shut up about reporting it.”
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
Since 2008?
Damn…so how many of his wins are now tainted?
I know at least Marquardt, Okami, and Miller.
That’s a damn shame.
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Well, he didn’t fail any test, so even if he was doing the testosterone replacement therapy thing, his levels were deemed normal. All he was missing was a piece of paper to make it all legel. A piece of paper doesn’t, or shouldn’t, invalidate those fights, IMO.
It means he tested within the normal range
He could have been training and recovering at 4 times greater like was tested for the AS fight.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
You mean like anyone else could be training and cycle off in time for a fight? Sure, that could’ve happen.
Sure
Anyone else might be. Chael was for sure cheating.
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by Chris Barton on May 25, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If you believe Chael
which, why would you? He wasn’t just missing a piece of paper. He didn’t do anything he needed to do to be cleared to use TRT. That seems like a really insane thing to have slip his mind.
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by Chris Barton on May 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL, yeah and I could go to jail for stealing a car when all I was missing was a piece of paper saying I owned it.
by Atgreat on May 25, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
As long as everyone tested negative, then everyone was following the same rules. The rules prohibit using PEDs in such a way that you test positive – if you can use them such that you don’t, you’re good to go.
We can’t assume that people who’ve never tested positive are clean, just as we can’t assume that a figher who tests positive today is clean today (as with Sonnen after the Marquardt fight).
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That's silly
The rules prohibit using PED’s. The way they test for it is done a certain, ineffectual, way. That doesn’t somehow imply that it’s okay to use PED’s as long as you don’t get caught.
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by Chris Barton on May 25, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It's demonstrably okay to use PEDs if you don't get caught.
You can compete and face no sanction. How is that not the hallmark of something that’s “okay”?
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
It’s demonstrably okay touse PEDssell crack if you don’t get caught. You cancompetemake money and face no sanction
.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
Absolutely true.
There’s even a statute of limitations, so if you avoid getting caught for an established length of time, you don’t even need to keep the scret anymore.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
It's not okay to cheat/steal/kill/etc.
just because you don’t get caught. I can’t believe anyone honestly would think otherwise.
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by Chris Barton on May 25, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
In that case
Laws don’t prohibit not killing people, they prohibit being caught for it.
Since all killers don’t get caught the we should assume all people are killers.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
Way to incorrectly assume an excluded middle.
Just because I say we shouldnlt assume people are clean, that does not mean we should assume they are not clean. How about we just not make unfounded assumptions?
In a sport, the rules establish a level playing field so that no one has an unfair advantage. With PEDs, that unfair advantage is defined as detectable PED use. If PED use isn’t detectable, then there’s no problem. This is why no one has tried to suspend Carwin for receiving steroids, because he hasn’t tested positive.
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That literally makes no sense
Not assuming innocence, where there is no reasonable cause or evidence for suspicion makes no sense. In fact, if a fighter has tested clean you’d think that would be even more reason to assume innocence.
If you have no reason to believe your wife is cheating on and have evidence to prove that, would you still think she might be cheating?
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
edit
If you have no reason to believe your wife is cheating on you and have evidence to prove that she isn’t, would you still think she might be cheating?
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
I don't think you understand what the word "prove" means.
If you’ve proven something, then you know it with certainty.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
There's certainly more reason to assume innocence than there is to assume the opposite.
But assuming either just sets you up for failure.
To quote Will Rogers: “It’s not the things you don’t know that get you in trouble — it’s the things you know for sure that just ain’t so.”
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
They should take away his home run records while they’re at it.
by Scabby Knuckle on May 25, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If Dana feels this way he should postpone TUF production and help Chael get a new license in a month.
In the interview
He talks about the TUF coaches and says they’re already pivked out.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
The man lied under oath, Dana
His punishment could have been a lot worse.
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