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Book Review: Cung Le's San Shou: The Complete Fighting System

Cung Le Sanshou The Complete Fighting System

I've post-poned publishing this review of Cung Le's San Shou: The Complete Fighting System because I kept hoping against hope that he would sign a bout contract and treat us to another MMA fight, but alas, it appears Hollywood has lured him away from MMA for the foreseeable future. 

Cung Le has had a remarkable combat sports career first in sanshou/wushu, then K-1 kickboxing and then in MMA. Per Wikipedia, Le went 16-0 in Sanshou competition, 3-0 for K-1 and 8-1 in MMA under the Strikeforce banner. 

Despite winning the Strikeforce title, Le has never quite garnered the respect from hardcore MMA fans that his abilities and utterly innovative style merit. 

Le's unique style of combining dramatic throws and slams with a variety of flashy kicks -- many of which had never been seen before in pro-level MMA -- made him an instant favorite with fans watching but also consistently drew skepticism from self-appointed "hardcores" who frankly just couldn't believe what they were seeing and accused Le of ducking quality competition and even of engaging in works. 

Frankly that criticism was coming out of utter ignorance. While it's unfortunate that Le came to MMA so late in his athletic career -- he made his pro debut at age 34 -- and he was never able to make a full-time commitment to the cage, his skill and stylistic innovations are undeniable.

His book,  San Shou: The Complete Fighting System, co-authored with Glen Cordoza and published by Victory Belt, goes a long way towards de-mystifying Le's style and explaining how he put it together. 

Start with taekwondo beginning at age 10. Like Anderson Silva, Stephan Bonnar and many other martial artists of his generation, Le started his martial arts journey by studying this kick-based style that is often dismissed as impractical or inapplicable to MMA.

Add a strong foundation in folkstyle, Greco-Roman and Freestyle wrestling. Le wrestled competitively from the age of 14, culminating in winning the California Junior College championship in 1990. 

Mix in an extensive point-fighting background culminating in three US Open International Martial Arts Championships. Successful as he was, Le felt hampered by the rules banning punches to the face and kicks to the back among many other restrictions. 

Channel all of that background into a decade of competition under Sanshou rules. Sanshou (aka Sanda or Wushu) is the competition martial art of the Chinese military and the rules allow for full contact striking (with a ban on clinch fighting) and throws, but no ground fighting. This rule set was perfect for Le with his taekwondo and wrestling backgrounds.

After a decade of ruling the U.S. Sanshou world and competing internationally, he came to MMA. With the exception of an aging Frank Shamrock, Le never faced truly top-tier competition, but he did prove that his style is effective in the cage. 

San Shou: The Complete Fighting System details the building blocks of Le's style. It's the usual beautiful Victory Belt publication with hundreds of full color photos detailing each move step-by-step and clear explanations from Le for how to execute each move. 

There are sections on Stance, Side Kick Techniques, Striking to the Takedown, Finishing the Takedown, Defensive Tactics, Catching Kicks, Takedown Defense, Clinch Techniques and Drills. This last section may be of the most utility to fighters looking to incorporate Le-style throws and side kicks into their game. 

The book is a remarkable introduction to a style of fighting that is almost completely unique in MMA history. Le's style eschews the Muay Thai or boxing foundation that is the most common MMA striking style. Instead he replaces the round kick to the thigh and the jab with the side kick as his foundational strike. This creates a world of new possibilities for the thinking MMA fighter as the changes in stance and fighting range completely change the fight. 

But it's Le's wrestling that allows his TKD derived striking to work in MMA. The book details how Le combines the two and uses his kicks to set up the dramatic throws and slams that have so electrified MMA fans. While he includes plenty of the single and double leg take downs, trips and arm drags that are the most commonly seen MMA take downs in his repertoire, he adds a dramatic flair by finishing his single legs with flashy moves like "hiking the football" and the "helicopter throw" and a whole range of high impact throws and hip tosses more familiar to judo than MMA.

Clearly Le's game includes very little ground grappling and no submissions, but his wrestling made it so hard for his opponents to take him down that that never proved relevant in his MMA career. 

All in all, this is an excellent book for the student of MMA, especially those bringing extensive TKD experience to the game. I also recommend it for anyone who wants to understand Le's flashy style and just how technically sound it is at its base. It's looking like we'll never know how Le would have fared against the top MMA middleweights of his era, but we do know that he has blazed a path of innovation in MMA that many fighters will follow in the future. 

Thanks to  Victory Belt for the review copy.

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If you don't like Cung Le

Well then I don’t think we can be friends.

The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.

by FreeLightningLee on May 22, 2011 6:07 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Agreed,

I think the side kick is something that will see some considerable play in the next few years. Really just kicking techniques in general, we’re starting to see it at the elite levels. GSP, Anderson, Machida, Cung Le, Makdessi, Barboza… they’re all writing the book on how to use “unconventional” kicks effectively in MMA.

And I think that’s just a function of the evolution of MMA striking.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 22, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I realize this is a bit of a freak show match up

But I’ve always wanted to see Anderson vs Cung Lee. It would just be fun for at least a round or two.

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by dedstrk316 on May 22, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ando would probably kill Cung,

and is much more well rounded, but I agree- for the first few rounds it would be a good fight.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 22, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The great/terrible thing about MMA

with those gloves…who knows? Anderson has fought a shitload of great fighters. But has he fought anyone with crazy striking like Cung Le?

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 22, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

crazy how?

Vitor and lee muray , come to mind as far as skill but did you mean the dynamic aspect?

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by the-gentle-way on May 22, 2011 10:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know for sure,

but Cung Le doesn’t have extraordinary punching power (has big power in his turning side kick though), and Anderson has a granite chin.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 22, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hardly a fresh show

The ufc has wanted to make this fight for years. Any way didn’t le tweet he talked to zuffa last week and he plans on fighting there now?

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by Urijah Bieber on May 22, 2011 10:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well, Cung definitely doesn't deserve that fight by merit,

but if Anderson loses at some point, then I think they could end up making an Anderson/ Le fight happen.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 22, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

One win over leben, belcher, wand or bisping

I’d buy that fight like a mother fucker too. Le is a good match up for andy

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by Urijah Bieber on May 22, 2011 10:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Le/ Wanderlei is an awesome matchup too,

and much more evenly matched than Le/ Anderson IMO.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 22, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

if by unconventional you mean kicks you learn your first 6 months of tkd/karate.

It’s funny that the most unique stand up art,Muay Thai, has become the norm mma. And the most commonly shared techniques between the stand up arts are exotic to mma. Obviously this is due to the effectiveness of Thai Boxing .

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by the-gentle-way on May 22, 2011 9:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Unconventional in an MMA context, of course.

Side kicks are a bit more basic (but still take some adjusting to use properly in MMA), but the real hard techniques are the spinning kicks & flying kicks

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by ElliotMatheny on May 22, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely

Its just things move in waves. All these good techniques were deemed inferior to Muay Thai because Thai kicks work so much better . But when you are expecting a Thai kick and get a spinning side kick. A spinning side kick works rather wonderfully.

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by the-gentle-way on May 22, 2011 11:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I love to see me some weird Cung lee striking, but he deserved all the criticism he got from the hardcores because he never fought anyone worth a shit.

His own choice, obviously made plenty of money otherwise. But let’s not act like he fought anyone relevant ever. Or anyone that challenged his ground game.

I wish he would have fought someone even decent to see how well his style actually transferred over to MMA. Battering brittle Shamrock and “meh” Smith (who knocked him out once) doesn’t sell it IMO.

Is there ANYONE following in Le’s footsteps that you know of?

by dbcb on May 22, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

i meant fancy as fancy kicks

 I know Johnson can strike lol. dudes got dynamite in his hands (feet?)

by dbcb on May 22, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It also helps when you cut down 3 weight classes to fight.

Dude is a HUGE guy to be fighting at 170.

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by RJshock 305 on May 22, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah Cung's style isn't really ideal for MMA

Johnson has much tighter kickboxing in some ways than Cung

by T.P. Grant on May 22, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apples and oranges.

Le is past his athletic prime and his style is just different from Johnson’s.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 22, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

His style is ideal for mma, san shou kickboxer with takedowns. That is a fantastic base for mma.

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by Kefka on May 23, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

john makdessi

Has been putting on side kick demos. His wrestling is strictly defensive tho.

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by Nate Wilcox on May 22, 2011 7:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cung Le was doing all these fancy kicks and sweeps during his whole kickboxing career. They worked just fine against world class kick boxers, and some people find it hard to believe these strikes would work in MMA. The main argument is, in MMA you have to worry about the takedown so these fancy kicks will not work. But Sanshou fighters have to worry about takedowns and sweeps as well. In fact the rules encourage takedowns.
Cunng Le’s style is perfect for MMA, and hopefully more fighters will try and add his style of kicks and sweeps into their own training.

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by Naztuu on May 22, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

this exactly

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by Nate Wilcox on May 22, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed that these attacks will continue finding their way into mma, but, unfortunately, in the future i doubt we’re going to see many enter mma who’ve already mastered a non-muay thai or western boxing discipline. it would be great to see a bunch of lyoto machidas who’ve been groomed on a variety of disparate styles, but in all likelihood the sport will be dominated by super-athletic muayjitsboxwrestlers.

by Trust Doesn't Rust on May 22, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'll see

millions of kids train TKD every year, far more than any other martial art. most of the instruction is weak but lots of those kids will go on to become athletes. when they realize the opportunities there are to get an edge in MMA by using side kicks, etc they’ll make an impact.

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by Nate Wilcox on May 22, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but those kids doing tkd and kung fu in suburban strip malls are going to stop once they get old enough or cool enough to find out what mma is. there’s just very little incentive to pursue it all the way to world class levels like in previous generations. any kid driven enough to try to make the olympics in tkd is going to inevitably start training muay thai at the local mma warehouse.

by Trust Doesn't Rust on May 22, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Kid Nate’s point is spot on. Muscle memory is a powerful thing. You take some kid who has trained TKD since he was 7 years old, at 16 he is not going to suddenly change up his style. He has been sparing in TKD class using that style for years…thats going to stick with him. If his MMA instructors are smart they are not going to throw those years of training out the window. They will help him adapt it to MMA. It’s mixed martial arts. He will learn to mix the TKD with the other arts.
Thats what Cung Le did. He mixed his TKD and Wrestling and adapted it to the SanShou rule set.

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by Naztuu on May 22, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

not saying they won’t bring a few things, but my point was that you’re not likely to see people who’ve MASTERED other martial arts, like with world-class training and competition as cung le had. i doubt many kids will even make it anywhere close to 16 without getting exposed to mma.

by Trust Doesn't Rust on May 23, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think part of this

is that Muay Thai was so successful in the early days of MMA, while Karate, TKD, Kung Fu and the rest struggled.

That said, MMA training is beginning to become formulaic; Wrestling, BJJ and Muay Thai. Boxing has been working its way in as fighters have been working on their hands a lot recently.

Now it wouldn’t shock me for the other martial arts to get their due. We’ve been getting front row seats the last yer or two that techniques that were considered “useless” are in fact quite useful.

Guys like Cung Le and Makdessi are showing off the TKD. Machida has been using Karate effectively. I’m sure there will be a guy that crushes in the clinch with Wing Chun.

by T.P. Grant on May 22, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would love to see that

but I won’t believe it until i see it.

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by Nate Wilcox on May 22, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what to make of Wing Chung in-fighting

because there are plenty of fighters with Jeet Kune Do backgrounds and we don’t ever see it get used.

by T.P. Grant on May 22, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trapping can be useful in a limited capacity:

Straight blasts can also be used in MMA:

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by ElliotMatheny on May 22, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Also see Hector Lombard on his 6-sec KO

From last season. His entry looks 95% of the way we trained it in Wing Chun, only rather than move in on the trapped side with his cross, he just launches it down the “normal” side.

The way we were taught it (and drilled it near every goddamn day) was to come in deep on the trapped side
A) to avoid the counter
B) so they can’t block with their other hand

Course, if you are Hector, you just KO the guy on the first punch and you don’t have to worry about any of that…

by hardlyworking on May 23, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good insight man.

I think certain parts of Wing Chun are very much applicable in MMA. Like I mentioned before- trapping and straight blasts are legit techniques. Controlling the center- line is a concept that every credible striking system addresses in one way or another.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 23, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Lyoto gif

is fucking nice, I guess they call it “trapping”, but I would call it a parry instead. I would’ve never noticed that in real time, I’d just figure that he was flailing his right arm out like that in response to that guy throwing a punch, instead though, Lyoto DELIBERATELY waits for the guy to throw the punch, deflects it and throws a left stright down the middle and connects flush…fucking nice!

Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!

by SentientAndroid on May 23, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The reason its not true "trapping"

Is that Lyoto stays out rather than collapsing the distance. In WC you don’t ever want to be out at max punching range because you have no control of your opponent, and he can use all of his tools against you.

by hardlyworking on May 23, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember when igor zenovek fought the #1 wing chum guy in the world way back when. He through wing chun guy on his head and choked him.

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by the-gentle-way on May 23, 2011 12:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great points made by dccb!

I don’t give a fcuk about le’s non MMA career and when he fought an over the hill Shamrock iwasnt really impressed. I’d like to have seen him fight a Nick Diaz or an accomplished someone with multiple disciplines under their belt.

by JAYGK95 on May 22, 2011 10:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've been a long time fan of Le

since I saw him in K-1 matches on ESPN.

by T.P. Grant on May 22, 2011 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

There needs to be some kind of Gödel’s Theorem for fighting systems. Like it’s either incomplete or inherently flawed.

by Pyrgz Krum on May 22, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Plus ten for defending Le against the critics

The man is machida like.

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by Urijah Bieber on May 22, 2011 7:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

except he's all offense

his offense is a good defence

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by Nate Wilcox on May 22, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

like many i’m just bummed we never saw him go against another top-notch striker. even in k-1 he didn’t face anybody great.

by Trust Doesn't Rust on May 22, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Machida like with his stand up is cung le"

No….no he’s not Mike.

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by the-gentle-way on May 22, 2011 8:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Le is the micheal jordan of san shao joe...

“Yes, yes he is Mike”

Side note ;"
Le used to say on his site he was the martial arts equal tiger and mj.

And he is Machida like.

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by Urijah Bieber on May 22, 2011 9:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

jordan or tiger were never KOed by a scott smith.

Cung Le is awesome so I don’t wanna bash him at all. I really like watching him fight. I will probably even buy this book. I own almost every victory belt book. Except the Jackson books…..
 Machida is like a ghost , Cung not so much. They both are TMA based , but thats kinda where the similarities end in my opinion.

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by the-gentle-way on May 22, 2011 9:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Jackson ones aren't great.

It’s interesting for context when watching his fighters, but Jackson’s Stand Up is not very good. Which is surprising considering the strong fundamentals and technique showsn by Rashad Evans, Leonard Garcia, Keith Jardine, Clay Guida, Demacio Page, Diego Sanchez, Joe Stevenson, and Cub Swanson.

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by pdl on May 22, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea...... i think his good stuff he saves for his students

What ever makes Jackson’s special didn’t come across in those books.

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by the-gentle-way on May 22, 2011 11:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Jackson books

are most interesting for their insights into his strategic and tactical thinking. the specific techniques are mostly pretty standard but he encourages a level of strategic thinking you don’t often see in a fight.

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by Nate Wilcox on May 22, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've spoken personally with Jackson on his coaching strategy

and I think he’s the best social worker in MMA. As a technical coach he’s severely lacking. I wouldn’t consider him even comparable to Nazim Richardson’s ability to speak to his fighters and provide great technical feedback along with a morale boost.

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by pdl on May 22, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jackson is the best corner man in mma.

That shit is just science. His gsp and conduit speeches were always just what they needed to hear.
His techniques are run of the mill and don’t seem to be innovative …. More on the borrowed side of things.

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by the-gentle-way on May 23, 2011 12:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i got that same feeling from the machida karate book.

As far as stand up goes that’s my favorite book.

I bought the Jackson book and ended up returning it for lindland’s book. The only reason I bought the Jackson’s book is some guy from bloody elbow gave it praise on the back.

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by the-gentle-way on May 22, 2011 11:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol

I stand by that. I learned a great deal from Jackson’s books.

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by Nate Wilcox on May 23, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

there are much much worse martial arts books out there.

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by the-gentle-way on May 23, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

oh and btw

What you did there ….. I see it.

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by the-gentle-way on May 22, 2011 11:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They also lost for the first time before they were almost 40

Le is similarly hard to hit

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by Urijah Bieber on May 22, 2011 10:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

food for thought

Many people pronounce Cung Le’s surname as Lee; Western way, but in actuality it is correctly pronounced as “Lay”. Too bad we won’t be seeing Cung Le in the cage anytime soon.

by daftshadow on May 22, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I am real Cung Le mark. I honestly feel like he would have matched up with the best in MMA had he made the crossover earlier and dedicated himself. Dynamic, accurate, hard kicks, beautiful trips and sweeps and very underated takedown defense. I am always highly entertained watching Le fight, there’s no one like him at the moment that puts it together like he does. Look forward to his movie career at least.

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by Jeremy Couturier on May 22, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

total mark here.

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by Nate Wilcox on May 22, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, what could have been… the Kuzuo Misaki fight in late 2008 then a unification bout with Elite XC champ Robbie Lawler or perhaps a rematch with Frank Shamrock (after he’d beaten Ken of course). As much as I loved watching Le and as much I realize he entered into the sport too late to really make an impact, my memories of him will always be tinged with regret by the fights promised to us but not delivered on.

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I know

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by Nate Wilcox on May 22, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see Pettis use this book

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by AfroSamurai on May 22, 2011 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Duke is teaching all his guys this stuff.

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by Urijah Bieber on May 22, 2011 10:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I love this breakdown

of one of the singular talents to have emerged in MMA.
thanks Nate.

'if you don't have humility as a fighter, fighting will bring humility to you...'

by rohedron on May 23, 2011 2:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Jone Jones uses a fair amount of fancy strikes. Spining kicks, side kicks,etc And he has the best ranges of take downs since Karo.

I am free because I choose to be so-Me

by Kefka on May 23, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

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