Bellator 45: Hale vs. M'Pumbu, Straus vs. Freire Live Results and Commentary
Join us tonight at 9 PM EST for the live results and play by play for Bellator 45 from L'Auberge Du Lac Casino and Resort in Lake Charles, LA., airing on MTV2.
Bellator's first light-heavyweight champion will be crowned this evening, as evenly matched competitors Richard Hale and Christian M'Pumbu will do battle for the 205-pound strap. Both mixed martial artists share identical records (16-3-1) with eight wins by submission, six by stoppage due to strikes, and three by decision. Among Hale and M'Pumbu's three career losses, two were delivered by decision with each fighter being stopped only once: Hale was knocked out by burly veteran Jimmy Ambriz in his second professional fight, while M'Pumbu was submitted by Jan Blachowicz, who appeared at #5 on the BloodyElbow World MMA Scouting Report.
The featherweight tournament crescendos on tonight's card with the Daniel Straus vs. Patricio Freire fight, with the winner earning the opportunity to face divisional champ and top-ranked juggernaut Joe Warren. Daniel Straus (16-3) was an All American wrestler in high school who won the national championship in 2003 and is currently riding a twelve-fight streak. Patricio "Pitbull" Freire (16-1) will have revenge on his mind, as the man who awaits him if he beats Straus is responsible for the sole defeat on his record.
Karl Amoussou, a violent and aggressive striker, engages Sam Alvey in a middleweight qualifier match. Amoussou (12-3-2) has been around the block in different promotions and will look to make a strong first impression on the Bellator crowd, while this will be Alvey's (14-2) first showing on a bigger stage.
The preliminary card includes: Joseph Abercrombie vs. Ben Parpart, Rene Nazare vs. Kelvin Hackney, Tim Ruberg vs. Mike Fleniken, Nicolae Cury vs. Luis "Sapo" Santos, and John Hill vs. Shawn Jordan. Unfortunately, the Thiago Santos vs. Derrick Lewis bout was scratched due to injury.
Get more details on the undercard fighters and match-ups in the full entry, as well as the live play by play.
Lightweight Rene Nazare (8-0, 3 TKOs, 3 subs) is the BJJ instructor at Team Bombsquad who won the Gold at the BJJ World Cup as a purple belt (2003) and black belt (2007), and won the Silver as a brown belt (2005). He defeated Pride standout Luiz Azeredo in his Bellator debut by TKO when it was determined Azeredo broke his wrist after the first round.
His opponent, Kelvin Hackney (9-1, 6 TKOs, 2 subs) has stopped all of his opponents but one, has only lost to Junior Assuncao, and will be making his Bellator debut.
Mike Fleniken (3-3, 3 subs) is a middleweight who started off his career mata leao style: he won his first two fights, then lost his next two, then won the following ... all by rear-naked choke. The only outcome on his record that didn't end that way was his last; a decision loss to Jeremiah Riggs in Fleniken's Bellator debut. His nickname is "The Crazii Cajun".
He'll face undefeated Tim Ruberg (5-0, 2 TKOs, 5 subs) who made his MMA debut in 2004 against a fighter named Major Dodge (no Spaceball jokes). Ruberg then disappeared until July of 2010, where he has since rattled off four wins in six months. Guess what? Three of those four wins were by rear-naked choke.
Heavyweight Shawn Jordan (9-2, 6 TKOs, 2 subs) made his pro debut at Bellator 9 two years ago and submitted Jayme Mckinney. Though he lost to Kenny Garner in his fourth fight and to Mark Holata in his last at Bellator 31, Jordan has finished every opponent but one, and he's only gone past the first round three times in his career.
Jordan faces John Hill (3-1, 2 TKOs), who shares a common opponent with Jordan in his loss to Mark Holata. Hill hasn't competed since October of 2009 where he knocked out John Orr in the first round at "King of the Cage: Wreckage".
Luis "Sapo" Santos (48-6, 26 TKOs, 10 subs) is a highly experienced 170-pound competitor with matches stemming back to 2000. Santos appeared at "WEC 34: Faber vs. Pulver" and suffered a loss via TKO to Alex Serdyukov. On his lengthy track record you'll find wins over Vale Tudo legend Jorge "Macaco" Patino and Chute Boxe striker Daniel Acacio, as well as a defeat at the hands of former UFC welterweight Yoshiyuki Yoshida.
He takes on American Top Team's Nicolae Cury (4-1, 3 subs), a Judo player who has only lost to Bellator fighter LeVon Maynard. Both fighters will be making their promotional debuts.
Live Commentary and Results for Bellator 45

Richard Hale vs. Christian M'Pumbu
R1: The winner of this bout will be crowned the first Bellator light-heavyweight champion. Herzog handles the final clash of the night. Jab by Hale. M'Pumbu with the low kick. Double kicks, left and right, from Hale to the upper thigh of M'Pumbu. Two more body kicks from Hale, who then leads with the double jab. Low kick from M'Pumbu connects. Double jab from Hale again, M'Pumbu counters with a roundhouse kick, and Hale flurries to push M'Pumbu on the fence.
M'Pumbu connects with a left-hook and Hale is wobbled, staggering backward while M'Pumbu smells blood and lets his hands go. Hale now falls on his back with M'Pumbu fishing for a D'arce, but Hale clears space and sneaks back to his feet. Hale seems tentative, then hurls a high kick that M'Pumbu blocks. My score: 10-9 M'Pumbu
R2: Hale comes out swinging hard. Double jab by Hale, then setting up the uppercut with his left. Hale leading exchanges though his chin is dangerously exposed. Left body kick is sidestepped by M'Pumbu, and Hale taps his chin with his double jab. More kicks from Hale who is much busier in this round. Now a left hook and jab from M'Pumbu, right straight-left hook combo from Hale, then again. Hale switches to southpaw, throws a right hook and eats a straight punch from M'Pumbu.
Low kick landing to Hale's lead leg and may be causing his change in stance, as he swtiches back to southpaw again. M'Pumbu more accurate, but Hale stalking and much busier. Side-kick by Hale. M'Pumbu too complacent and only retreating with few counters. Finally a straight right by M'Pumbu. Ugly left hook by Hale closes the round. My score: 10-9 Hale
R3: Left over the top lands for Hale early. M'Pumbu spins off a nice combo to slow the charging Hale's pace. Hale now holding southpaw, pawing with his jab, then a right low kick, followed by a left low kick. M'Pumbu counters but is getting out-punched. Straight to the body by M'Pumbu, then a straight left to the head gets through. Hale flicks out a jab from southpaw, then follows his right hook with a nice straight left. Triple jab now by Hale, then follows with a straight left.
It doesn't matter how often Hale is actually landing, because M'Pumbu is barely even throwing; just defending. Uppercut penetrates M'Pumbu's guard, who retreats and connects with a body kick. Now M'Pumbu advances with a left with a sense of urgency, counters Hale with a right, then clocks Hale with a huge right that drops him flat. M'Pumbu hesitates, then commences a storm of hammerfists and hooks from the top that inspire the referee to intervene for the third round TKO.
Christian M'Pumbu defeats Richard Hale by TKO, Round 3, and becomes the first Bellator light-heavyweight champion.
Daniel Straus vs. Patricio Freire
R1: The featherweight tournament finale begins with Jason Herzog at the helm again. Pitbull takes the center and wings an overhand right. They clinch and Straus hits a hip throw, but Pitbull springs back to his feet and digs in with Straus against the fence. Pitbull looks for a trip that Straus defends. The fighters play the circle-out game with over-under, Straus knees and again goes for the hip throw. Pitbull counters and they break back to the standing position.
Straight left by Straus, then a high kick, both blocked by Pitbull. Straus shoots directly into a Pitbull guillotine, but he's patient in defending, then nails a takedown. Pitbull bounces immediately back to his feet again, and we're back to clinching against the fence. Straight left to the body from Straus, inside low kick by Pitbull, who then pursues with a lunging left hook. Straus shoots, but Pitbull with the picture-perfect sprawl. Straus grabs wrist control, transitions to the body lock, and Pitbull shakes him off. Pitbull unleashes a hard flying knee that partially connects to close the round. My score: 10-10 for equal aggression and effective offense
R2: One-two by Straus, Pitbull ducks under to threaten with a takedown. They retake the center, and Pitbull springs for a huge double-leg to plant the All American high school wrestler on his back. Straus shrimps out, gets to a knee, and Pitbull hammers a knee that could have been to the head when Straus was downed. The replay shows that it was clearly to the midsection and perfectly legal.
We restart with Pitbull striking aggressively, then alternating in a takedown attempt that Straus defends. Pitbull attacks again with firm strikes to set up his takedown attempt, which Straus defends, which is all the southpaw can do as the momentum shifts to Pitbull. Double jab from Straus; Pitbull switching from counter-strikes and level changes to keep Straus at bay. Now we have a cup-kick from Straus, who apologizes, and they re-engage. Left high-kick by Straus is blocked. Now Straus commits to punches, but Pitbull again changes levels and hits a takedown, but Straus is quickly back to his fee and counters with his signature hip throw. Another close one, but ... My Score: 10-9 Pitbull
R3: Straus opens the third with a purpose, leading with strikes and shooting a double. Pitbull repels him, and Straus fires on the feet again. Straight left by Straus, Pitbull ducks under to halt him. Pitbull measures with the jab and uncorks a three-piece, closing with the uppercut. Straight right by Pitbull lands clean again, and Straus dives for a takedown. Pitbull sprawls soundly, and controls the head as Straus turtles. Straus with wrist control to stand, but eats a hard knee for his effort.
Inside low kick lands for Pitbull, who still presses the action. A Straus left hand beckons Pitbull to taunt him, sticking out his chin. Straus responds with punches that Pitbull handles with another level drop, ushering Straus to the cage. Another one-two by Straus. Pitbull raises his arms in celebration with twenty seconds left, then follows with a hard flying knee. Straus blocks it but is back on his heels, then slams Pitbull from the rear waistlock. Pitbull scampers loose and ends the round peppering Straus with punches from the top. My score: 10-9 Pitbull
The judges see it 29-28 and 30-27 for Patricio "Pitbull" Freire, who wins the Bellator Season 4 featherweight tournament.
R1: We open up from Louisiana with a middleweight qualifier. French striker Amoussou gets in Alvey's "Smile 'N" face as soon as he enters the cage. Referee Jason Herzog is running this one. They touch and Amoussou unloads an immediate high kick that Alvey blocks, then two more, the last a low kick that lands. Alvey being patient in southpaw. Amoussou cracks a low kick that takes Alvey's legs out from under him, and follows him to the canvas where Alvey immediately reverses into Amoussou's guard. Amoussou locks up an airtight guard and Herzog stands the fight halfway through the round.
Amoussou is swinging a volley of kicks again, then catches double underhooks in the clinch for a powerful throw, transitioning directly into the mount. Amoussou pelts with vicious elbows that open a cut on Alvey's head. Alvey taking severe punishment and baits an arm, which Amoussou obliges, but Alvey rolls into the Frenchman's guard. The bell sounds with Amoussou sending an Alvey a huge grin. My score: 10-8 Amoussou
R2: A blood-soaked Alvey paws with a lazy jab before committing to a one-two. Alvey catches Amoussou coming in with a wild left. Amoussou charges with a flying knee that Alvey defends, and they're clinched with Amoussou tying up with his back against the fence. No action, and Herzog intervenes. We have a quick pause for a cup check, and we're back to action with Amoussou landing a low kick. They exchange punches. Amoussou scores a strong combination that backs Alvey up, but another stalemate occurs against the fence.
Amoussou hits a trip, but Alvey once again executes a slick sweep the moment he's on his back, and buries his head in Amoussou's chest from the top position. Distracting ground-and-pound from Alvey, now some minor return fire from Amoussou on the bottom as the horn sounds. My score: 10-10
R3: Alvey leads with a left hook, then a jab. Body kick by Amoussou. Alvey countering with nice straight knees to a charging Amoussou, who presses Alvey against the cage and scores with knees to the inner thigh. They trade uneventful knees. Herzog separates the pair again and warns Amoussou for a questionably placed knee. Crowd is protective of Alvey's nether regions and starts the "USA!" chant.
We restart and Amoussou cracks a kick, Alvey unfurls a right straight-left hook to counter to the next kick. Both fighters blitz good flurries before locking up in the clinch again. For the third straight time, Amoussou maneuvers for a trip but Alvey turns the tables and falls into Amoussou's guard. To end the round, Alvey postures up and volleys some solid strikes. My score: 10-9 Alvey
The judges see it 29-28 Alvey, 29-28 Amoussou, and 29-28 for Sam Alvey, who defeats Karl Amoussou by split-decision.
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High / Low
Freire: -154 / -130
Straus: +120 / +105
M’Pumbu: -140 / -125
Hale: -105 / +113
Amoussou: -225 / -195
Alvey: +160 / +185
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M'Pumbu by 2nd rnd TKO
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
Small crowd.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions
He's the favorite because this other guy...
is only here because his girlfriend’s tasty.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't he get knocked down by Nak standing?
At least he does the Wanderlei thing well before the fight starts
slick escape.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
Amoussou looks like he bit him
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
This ref is FAST with re-starts
I kinda like it
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by Farthammer on May 21, 2011 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Lol@Herzog
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
10-9 Alvey?
GTFO, Smith.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:26 PM EDT reply actions
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
It's pretty funny sometimes.
Especially when they’re chanting for the guy who just got knee’d in the spuds.
Judges better give it to Karl
Alvey had like no offense
by mikedh on May 21, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
But... but...
ALVEY ENDED TWO ROUNDS ON TOP!
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
29-28 Amoussou
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
30-27 Amoussou but i will not be shocked by a judge giving it to alvey
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by Brian Hemminger on May 21, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
nice job bellator
that is what happens when you run shows in random places like louisiana
ATTN: Jimmy
How can you have a DOMINANT 10-9?
I scored it: 10-8, 10-10, 9-10 for a 29-17 Amoussou decision
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Sorry
29-27 Amoussou
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for catching my warrior vibe
through the internets though.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
You had it right the first time. It was a reaaaaaaaaaaally dominant 10-9. Final score 29-17.
by Scabby Knuckle on May 21, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no such thing as a "dominant" 10-9
10-9 is a fighter winning by a close margin. If he dominates, which Amoussou did, it’s 10-8.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
SCREW YOUR SARCASM
I never get it, and I’m live blogging.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Jimmy knows that, he just chose his words poorly. He probably meant ‘clear’ 10-9, not dominant. I’ve caught myself doing the same thing when I think a guy clearly won a round beyond any shadow of a doubt.
Jimmy says that all the time
And I feel like I always score it a 10-8 when he does.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
ya know what im going to say it his wife isn't that good looking
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
None of the “next top model” women are. imo.
by OmoPlata on May 21, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget, we're on the Indian Res
for this Bellator again.
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For all the talk of how good of a ref Herzog is since when does a ref give the option of clinched against the cage or in the middle of the cage.
by tremblay6 on May 21, 2011 9:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That's correct
He offered the restart in the same position since he broke them to warn for the low blow.
Quick standups from him tonight though.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don’t think a ref should ever give the fighter the option to pick his position
by tremblay6 on May 21, 2011 9:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They have to
After the Bang x Sudo fight where it was stood up for a cut check, then restarted on the feet, where Ludwig crane kicked his way to a decision.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i bet like $1.60 on this fight on centsports
so mad right now
And a side note that is a fun fact
I have randomly come into contact with an abnormal amount of celebrities when I used to bar-tend. Hot random chicks or really low-level “models” (think rap videos) are 1000x hotter than celebrities or professional runway models.
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im a set dresser working in NYC and I agree
many “hot” actresses I have worked on projects with and a lot of them would just be a regular chick without all the makeup/shooting/etc if you take away their fame.
Amoussou landed more strikes and did more damage. He also ended each of the 3 rounds on the bottom. Alvey did absolutely no damage from the top. MMA judges are brutal. Can’t say I’m shocked by another controversial Bellator decision. How about Alvey planting a bloody and sweaty kiss on his model girlfriend there at the end?
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Amoussou’s complete and total lack of positional skills lost him that fight. Everyone who has even a passing knowledge of North American judging knows that they weigh position very heavily. Amoussou has no one to blame but himself.
Karl needs to spend a little more time on the mats.
I agree
Going for an armbar from mount in MMA is almost a bad idea at this point. Too risky. Rain down punches until the round ends or you get a stoppage.
BOOSH
He won that round regardless
That was the first, which surely was the round all 3 judges gave him.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Judges need to spend more time understanding MMA
IMO
It’s sad when fighters have to tailor their games to bad judging.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, but the other side of the coin is that fighters cannot afford to ignore judging tendencies, even if they disagree with them.
The fact is, in North American MMA, the position game is a HUGE factor in how the fights are judged. Whether that is right or wrong is beside the point. If you want to collect a win bonus, you had better learn how to game the system until such time as the system changes.
Oh yeah, I agree with the reality of it
I was just whining about it. You are 100% correct.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
my buddy is a Seether fanatic and he looks like them
I’m watching Seether tomorrow at Rock on the Range btw
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by Brian Hemminger on May 21, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The commercial said they have the #1 rock song. I’m curious as to what standard was used to determine this. Perhaps it was an interview with the lead singer’s mom?
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a scoring nerd, so comments are welcome
on my 29-27 for Amoussou.
Again:
10-8, 10-10, 9-10
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I thought Amoussou did enough to eek out a 10-9 second round. I saw it the same as you other than that.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
My comment is that your math is no good
10 – 8
10 – 10
9 – 10
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29 – 28
by Rich Hansen on May 21, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Doing the PBP and switching back and forth
And can’t be bothered with calculus level formulas like that.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
bellator does it again , all three rds amoussou was the agressor , plus did more damage , alvey got a couple of reversals near the end of the rd and finished on top , but how does finishing the last 20-30secs of a 5 min rd equal winning the rd . i guess the only surprise is WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO THINK BELLATOR IS GOING TO GET ANY LESS CORRUPT. I GUESS THE FACT ALVY HAD BELLATOR CUT INTO HIS HAIRCUT SHOULD OF BEEN THE GIVE AWAY THAT IF IT WENT TO DEC , ALVY WOULD GET IT. I REALLY WISH THE COMMISSIONS WOULD CLEAN BELLATOR UP OR IT WOULD JUST GO BANK RUPT
by robbyedRobby Edwards on May 21, 2011 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t consider that decision to be a major outlier from typical North American scoring. If you compete in North America, you flat-out have to have solid positional skills. It might not be fair, it might not be how the rules are written, but it is reality and everyone knows it. You have to have positional skills and Karl’s positional game looked atrocious.
Athletic commissions can’t choose judges when the fights happen on an indian reserve, recently the commentators said the judges are picked by the casino
by tremblay6 on May 21, 2011 10:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not true
The tribal commissions absolutely can choose the judges, but they can also allow approved judges. Bellator has brought in their own judges before, such as Chuck Wolfe, who scored the Warren-Galvao fight 30-27 for Warren while condemning the use of 10-10 rounds.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not be surprised if Strauss pulls it out if he makes this gritty and grinds on him for a good while
wish this was 5 rounds man just givem like a bowling trophy man
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Well fuck me running...
The one time I’m home at 6 to stream Bellator and it dies and I can’t find another one.
I missed this entire season of Bellator due to MTV2 being fucking idiots.
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by Lulz McGee on May 21, 2011 9:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ah, fuck.
Kevin, why’d you have to say it?
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Haha. I’m sorry man. I don’t wanna jinx him.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
’sokay, I jinxed the other Freire with a nutshor every time I posted last week.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
joe warren thinks he is a star
fighting in empty arena being watched by 200,000 people on mtv2.
Freire would lose.
One-sided decision. Straus would outmuscle Warren
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Warren has already proven decisions in Bellator favour him.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad call by Herzog.
Glad he didn’t take the point, though
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
Really bad. Clear body shot.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ut oh. First low blow!
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
I wish I could change this screenname, days like today
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a close round id say 10-9 pitbull better aggression overall through the round
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Same.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Straus is done.
Half-gassed and half-rocked. I predict a knockout.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
30-28 Pitbull Strauss never got anything going on his side wasnt aggressive enough
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What a Goldberg move to scream "FLYING KNEE" when it missed...
…and I love how the crowd booed when Pitbull threw his hands up to taunt Straus
At least they didn't start chanting 'USA'
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No way Straus wins. I mean, I didn’t think Alvey won either, but it would be insane if they didn’t give this to Freire. I got it 30-28 Pitbull.
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Thank you sir
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
30-28 Freire
I love that flying knee against the cage he’s using, even if he missed with it
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone else hear before the commercials commentators saying you never know with these judges? Pretty sure we weren’t meant to hear that
by tremblay6 on May 21, 2011 10:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dammmit I am almost caught up… love dvr for skipping the 20 minutes of bullshit between fights.
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
30-28 Pitbull
With a 10-10 first.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
I’m with you all the way, but I guess the judges gave Pitbull round 1. Oh well. It was the right decision.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Weird, did you and MAZZacare score it
the exact same way?
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Myself as well.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
^ This
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
See, that's just good shit
And proof that the full use of the Ten Point scores from a knowledgeable POV is all judging needs.
Much respect, gentlemen.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I mean, if you’re sitting there after the round, saying “Damn. I have no idea who to give that to!” (as I was), I just feel like you HAVE to score it a draw. Judges apparently don’t know that is an option.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with all in this thread who are saying that Joe Warren is intolerable. I’m hoping Pitbull flying knees his teeth in.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
Joe has actually transcended intolerability for me
Now he’s just fucking awesome.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
really wish the tourny winners got a giant trophy at the end would be funny
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Warren has got to be thinking about the first round of his fight with Pitbull :)
Hopefully pitbull is in better shape this time and can carry that aggression into the 2nd and 3rd…
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Soi have a sneaking suspicion that warren is slightly paniced right now. Pitbull is gonna maul his ass this time around.
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One can only hope.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
We need more bellator girls… let’s start a petition.
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh jesus shitting christ
Seriously?
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
just wait till next card
rear naked choke….in jello
Ratings would sky rocket.
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ummm… Hells yes!
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My TV just got really awesome for a second there.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
Hahahahahaha. Ring girl demo is great.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
I think they should go into a more detailed demonstration that lasts for the forever and a half between fights
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm torn
I feel pretty strongly that if it goes to the ground for a significant amount of time, Hale wins. Conversely, I think M’Pumbu has a big standup advantage. Hale also has more experience in deeper fights (2+ rounds), so if it’s a longer fight, I see Hale having the advantage. Totally depends on who can make the other fight their fight.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I like m’pumbu but that’s probably because in my inebriatex state I keep reading his name as pumba.
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll get off the fence. I got M'Pumbu by 2nd round TKO.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Yep.
Striking’s meastly, and Hale is gonna gas.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Rich Hale talks like a Pro Wrestler. He talks about himself in the third person. I’m not sure if I hate that or love it.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
the midge hates this
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by Chris Toffer on May 21, 2011 10:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
His voice is very nasaly…. that being said be is a big 205er
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Anybody think it’s really weird that they have identical 17-3-1 records?
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like Hale has already been punched in the nose many, many times
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by mburtoni on May 21, 2011 10:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hale looks nervous…. and wtf is the highway safety sponsoring this?
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Tax dollars at work.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Hale looks nervous…. and wtf is the highway safety sponsoring this?
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Weight cuts
Why don’t europeans cut weight?
by milliondollardreams on May 21, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
lack of practise
Europe and asia don’t have the long standing weight cutting sport tradition like america does (wrestling) I truely think its why americans dominate the field now that the wrestlers have emerged. Eventually the world will catch on.
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Because wrestling isn't as developed over there.
Weight-cutting is primarily a wrestling concept. It’s the same reason Vitor used to be a HW.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
vitor learned
And so will everyone else. I look forward to the day japan cuts like america. Its juuuust started to occur really.
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by Chris Toffer on May 21, 2011 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good knee
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
M'Pumbu's got a naaaasty jab.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
How is that a 10-8 round?
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by mburtoni on May 21, 2011 10:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Knockdown.
Also, Hale’s striking didn’t do fuckall to M’Pumbu.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Hale looks a bit awkward
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by mburtoni on May 21, 2011 10:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
10-9 m’pumbu. Is this gonna be 5 rounds?
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yes
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuckin a I guess I coulda read the round timer… thanks man
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually....no. :)
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Hale is wobbled. M’Pumbu very nearly finished him. Round 1 = 10-9 for M’Pumbu. My prediction is looking better.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
Even if he wins this I would lime to see mpumbu drop to 185
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would say 10-10
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
10-9 Hale.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
Round 2: M’Pumbu: 10-9. Hale was coming forward but not really landing at all. Mpumbu is murdering him with legkicks.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
Jimmy Smith is smoking crack for giving Round 2 to Hale
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
Disagree.
I agree, M’Pumbu’s leg kicks were nasty. But Hale’s volume outweighed that to me.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Volume thrown? Yes. But he wasn’t landing at all man. M’Pumbu either blocked or dodged almost every one of Hale’s strikes.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That's all M'Pumbu did for the entire 2nd round
Block and dodge strikes.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He landed a lot of leg kicks. Nothing damaging, but Hale never really touched him. Can we disagree and still be friends?
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
NO WE HAVE TO BEAT THE PISS OUTTA EACH OTHER
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. See you at the flagpole.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If you can help me with addition in the future
I would consider it.
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Consider us being friends, or beating the piss out of each other?
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The answer is ...
7?
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
7 to what? Forgive me if I’m being dense. I might be missing something.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I mistakenly added my score card for Amoussou x Alvey above, and was poking fun at myself and trying to see if I could swindle a math tutor out of our friendship / flagpole fight somehow.
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by Dallas Winston on May 21, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh right.
Ha. My bad. I was in “M’Pumbu won Round 2” mode. There was no talking to me about Amoussou-Alvey.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ehh, that's probably on me
For seeking out math assistance randomly in the “M’Pumbu won round 2” section. :)
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No worries. I got your back next time on Math. Just keep it basic. I can’t do theorems.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It was okay.
He was borderline both those times to me.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe I'm a little conservative.
It looked like he rolled his eyes 2 or 3 times and was woken up by punches.
I’ve noticed that with other fights he had reffed, especially first season fights. Lombard and Lyman Good fights he reffed should of been stopped much sooner
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That could have been stopped three times
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Holy shit that was a nasty hook… I thought hale was out when he hit the canvas.
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Damn. Hale just ate a ton of punches. I still like when refs give a fighter a chance to try and recover. M’Pumbu is a tough dude. I enjoyed that very much.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
is that the same ref who brought us phantom knee to the head
in the pitbull fight?
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 10:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he's on a roll.
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by Dave Strummer on May 21, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
We jut needed someone to grab the fence multiple times and never get a warning
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 11:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Herzog worked all 3 televised fights.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
RE: Herzog
I’ve always thought he was one of the best refs in the game. Tonight was the first time I can remember even having the slightest critique of his performance.
I think it’s worth noting that I wasn’t sure where the knee landed in “real time” either, and it was only clear on the replay. All he ended up doing was separating the fighters and giving a quick warning, so I really don’t have a problem with that at all.
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by Dallas Winston on May 22, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I enjoyed this fight card.
Does anyone agree with me that Bellator is getting better every week?
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
I only recently started watching
but these were good fights. The tournament format helps, in that you theoretically get better, more tested fighters every week.
I still don’t find the super-fights all that edifying though.
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by Dave Strummer on May 21, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree 100%
I’m on record (see the Askren thread and others) as believing that Bellator shows signs of being a major promotion eventually if they manage it properly. The tournament format is awesome. It really needs to be borne in mind that they’ve only been in business for a short while. I’m really optimistic about it.
by Scabby Knuckle on May 21, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, M’Pumbu just made me a fan. Fucking nasty hook, that dude is exciting to watch.
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Absolutely now imagine him at 185 and all the ass he could whoop there
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Eh...
Theoretically. The problem is that one of those asses belongs to Hector Lombard.
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he wild go through bellators mw division like shit through a goose.
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by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 11:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is premature
But I’d really fucking like to see him fight Anderson. Even if he’d lose.
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by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This is premature
Yep. :)
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by Kevin Haggerty on May 21, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
you lost me
he’d get handled by Anderson…and by any of the good UFC LHW strikers. His work-rate in that fight wasn’t the greatest. I like him too, but Hale ain’t great shakes on his feet.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on May 21, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he's there yet.
But I really think in about 2 or 3 years he will be there
Official sponsor of Michael Chandler.
by inadvertentgroinstrike on May 21, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see the kind of reflexes, speed and technique that would put him in that class
but I’m happy to see him try. He’s a fun fighter.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on May 21, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
This chucks french is shitty as hell. I call bullshit that in lake charles they couldn’t find someone who spoke french flawlessly…. fucking jackasses
"This mother Fucker next to me is wearing foot warmers? Its like 60 degrees out here." Joe Rogan
by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 11:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chandler looked sickly in that picture
"This mother Fucker next to me is wearing foot warmers? Its like 60 degrees out here." Joe Rogan
by Bobillarious on May 21, 2011 11:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
M’Pumbu was playing possum.
Got the Summer hatin on me cus I'm hotter than the sun. Got the Spring hatin on me cus I ain't never sprung. Winter hatin on me cus I'm colder than ya'll; and I will never I will never I will never Fall.
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
M'Possum?
"A philosopher and solitary by instinct, who has found his advantage in standing aside and outside, in patience, in procrastination, in staying behind; as a spirit of daring and experiment that has already lost its way once in every labyrinth of the future; as a soothsayer-bird spirit who looks back when relating what will come." -Nietzsche
by Dallas Winston on May 22, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

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