Eddie Bravo vs Royler Gracie 2 Possibly In Jeopardy
If you've been a part of the grappling community long enough, or even just a keen observer, any news on an Eddie Bravo vs Royler Gracie rematch falling through should come as absolutely no surprise. Just over a week ago it looked like the ADCC rematch was on, and now its status is unknown. In this instance though, is it Bravo playing mind games or Gracie acting like a Prima Donna?
Bravo broke the following news a few days ago on his oofficial website's message boards making the first move of one-upmanship against his Brazilian rival:
I just got off the phone with vice president of ADCC Guy Nievens (sic) and he told me that Royler just called him and is now asking for 50k just to show up plus the 25k win bonus.
I have no idea why he's now asking for all that cash up front all of a sudden, 5 days after agreeing to the rematch and after doing interviews for Atame and Gracie Mag saying that "Lightning doesn't strike the same place twice".
ADCC is refusing to pay the 50k show money.
So my business manager is gonna set up a Royler relief paypal account asap. If 5,000 people donate just $10 the rematch is on.
Who's down?
The article Bravo is referring to was published on the GracieMag blog based on a phone conversation with Gracie and GracieMag a week ago:
"Even though he beat me, every now and again I catch word that Eddie Bravo wants to go again," said Royler. Perhaps Bravo wants a sequel to prove it was no fluke. "So I'll let him have a rematch," said the Gracie, jokingly.
The match contract hasn't been signed, but to Royler it's a done deal: "I spoke with Renzo yesterday and the folks in Abu Dhabi really want to put together these two matchups, so I feel it will go through. I've never been out of shape, but it's always nice to have a good reason to train hard; it's a match a lot of folks have been asking for and one I'd like to do too."
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Now about his match with Bravo, might Royler fear having another lapse and getting blindsided with another submission? Royler was quick to respond: "Lightning never strikes twice in the same place, nor kills the same horse."
But it doesn't end there. Yesterday GracieMag posted an update to the ADCC 2011 participants and in its opening paragraph dismissed Bravo's claim:
"Don’t be fooled by the rumor-mongering: Royler Gracie still very much wants to face Eddie Bravo in the superfight announced for ADCC 2011 in Nottingham, England. We’re still waiting on more about that."
And today, Bravo responds via his forums while rescinding his offer:
I decided against the Royler fund, if he doesn't wanna do it then I'm not gonna try to humiliate him by raising the money myself, it's a dick move and I don't wanna be a dick. But based on what GracieMag is reporting now, I think it might happen anyways, we'll see....
KJ's Take
At the moment all we have is Bravo's Word vs Gracie's Word (and let's face it, a publication called GracieMag is as good as a Gracie proxy as you can get) and neither scenario is a particularly good one. Either Bravo is trolling as he has a history of doing such as setting up mock websites or even punk'ing his jiu jitsu class with staged altercations, or Gracie is either living up to his family tradition of demanding stipulations for matches or possibly making an unreasonable demand as a way of backing out of the match while attempting to save face. Having said that we don't know how much Bravo is getting for his participation in the match either and it might be a pathetic attempt by Bravo at smearing Royler's name.
I'm leaning toward Gracie possibly ducking out because I'd like to think Bravo hasn't made the serious mistake of name dropping the ADCC Vice President just to try and get in Gracie's head and make himself look good by comparison - although we can't rule out the possibility Bravo may have been foolish enough to do just that. I've contacted Guy Neivens to comment on the situation and will make an update should he get back to me.
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man, that pic is killing me more than everything else. looks like a member of Korn in 2011... which is not good.
"SOMETHING TAKES A PART OF ME!!!!!"
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“Eddie Bravo looks like a gay vampire” – Ryan Hall
And then hall will then go on to trash his “system”. It’s kinda funny
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on May 20, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well Ryan Hall got Bronze in the MODERN era of ADCC so I’ll go with him when it comes to jiu jitsu
by IpullguardIRL on May 20, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Minus the motivator edit
I was thinking of using that picture instead when I was putting the story together.
Is there a fourth poll option?
Something like, “Circuses are for clowns”?
Never approach a vast undertaking with a half-vast plan.
Royler wont back out of the match.
He is just posturing for more cash. Imho
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on May 20, 2011 11:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Of course he is
He probably makes bank from seminars and lessons. He’ll have to put that on hold for a while – so why not get compensated? Nothing was signed; so this is the time to negotiate.
Bravo always comes off like a very immature person. Like his development was stunted at 18.
BOOSH
adcc is ran by bjj fanboys
Fanboys that are royalty, and millionaires. Royler will get his cash.
"Many have the will to win. Few have to will to prepare to win."
" A black belt only covers 2 inches of your ass. The rest is up to you." - Royce Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on May 20, 2011 11:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And Eddie will get his
Which I would guess is of equal or near equal amount unless Eddie states otherwise.
i didn't read this story at all, but i imagine it's due to a marijuana conviction.
everything dana white says is a complete lie
by slantedwindows on May 20, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
Here's a lesson for you kids...
Commenting on something you haven’t read greatly increases the likelihood of looking like an idiot.
"With gold thou boughtest Gýmir's daughter,
and so gavest away thy sword:
but when Muspell's sons through the dark forest ride,
thou, unhappy, wilt not have wherewith to fight."
~ Lokasenna
i guess no one got the “if eddie bravo gets in trouble for anything, it’s probably weed related” joke…
everything dana white says is a complete lie
by slantedwindows on May 20, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice try...
…but no good.
"With gold thou boughtest Gýmir's daughter,
and so gavest away thy sword:
but when Muspell's sons through the dark forest ride,
thou, unhappy, wilt not have wherewith to fight."
~ Lokasenna
What will Eddie do
if his only important win(that he’ll never shut up about) is taken back?
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
Nothing
Because you can’t take a win back, if Royler shows and beats Eddie, then they’re 1-1 and he lost to an ADCC legend… I don’t think a loss particularly hurts him at this point, he’s too well established.
Eddie's whole career is built on that one fight
its not like he went on to win the championship.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
Let's hope this rematch happens the first one was history in the making
Anyway if any of you guys haven’t seen the first match ANS (AintNoSunshine) over on mmamania did a story on it in his weekly part “Ultimate Submissions.” Lot’s of GIF’s and the entire match in a youtube video. You can see it here.
"The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes." – Winston Churchill

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