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Here's a clip of Jake Shields poking Georges St. Pierre's eye.

HT: BE Reader Joe_Leduc

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Thank you

now people can shut the fuck up about how GSP was being too cautious

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by DK_Monster on May 2, 2011 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Well this did happen in the 3rd round I believe..Its not like the first rounds were amazing.

by Tats16 on May 2, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

second.

I think he told the corner about it before the third started.

by Anton Tabuena on May 2, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Play by play says he told his corner between round 3 and 4

by Tats16 on May 2, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep, and they told GSP to ko Shields right b4 the 3rd. Bad luck I'd say.

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by i_am_awesome_o on May 2, 2011 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong eye, nice try though…

by haggardhero on May 2, 2011 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

that was the right eye actually bro

by mmaff312 on May 2, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

It looks like he poked both eyes, but mainly the right eye…

by haggardhero on May 2, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s obvious, based on the final damage, that GSP was eye poked, I was there, and saw Shields slap him multiple times in the mid-rounds. the video above is not the best example of the damage though.

by haggardhero on May 2, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got this...

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by Thulsa Doom on May 2, 2011 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

he poked the left....this is clear as day.

Jakes punch/slap comes form his left across the body an hits the bridge of the nose/inside right section of GSPs left eye. if you look hard enough, frame by frame, seconds 15 through 18 you can see the fingers rake across GSPs left eye.

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by F'n Clownshoes on May 2, 2011 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ric Flair would be proud.

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by dandeman on May 2, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everything appears that way if you slow it down enough.

by MMAussie on May 2, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could’ve been all reflexes as Georges lunges in he puts his hands out to grab him.

by MMAussie on May 2, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

His hands never motioned towards Jake at all.

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by Earl Montclair on May 2, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

His body movement looks like he could be fainting to lunge at Shields. The look of fear on Shield’s face to me looks like he is just reacting to any little movement. I’m not saying that it definitely wasn’t intentional, I’m just saying a lot of accidental stuff will look intentional in super slo-mo.

What round and time is this anyway so I can watch it full speed?

by MMAussie on May 2, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no flipping idea when this happened.

It seems like early…..first two rounds-ish

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by Earl Montclair on May 2, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thought that might be the case, was just putting it out there seeing if anyone maybe knew?

by MMAussie on May 2, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

2:21 left in the third.

by paythefighters on May 3, 2011 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

That top screen shot makes me sick.

by MMAussie on May 2, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I still say Shields' poke is dirtier

A strike across the eyes with fingers outstretched – and the palm was open right from the beginning, putting his motives in question – is extremely dangerous, hence the bleeding in GSP’s eye and/or corneal abrasion.

Jon Jones is just being a dick by putting his thumb there. It’s still a bit dangerous, and I wish he didn’t do it, but nowhere near as bad as an eye poke.

by paythefighters on May 3, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

The 2'nd one

doesn’t look much like an eye poke to me, but the top one is pretty flagrant. Now I know what you’re talking about when you say Jones was being dirty in that fight.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snowden made a piece that broke down the entire fight

including his dirty moves… it was pretty obvious actually when I first watched it.

by Anton Tabuena on May 2, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh.

I only passed over that article. To be honest, I normally don’t have a good eye for detail when I watch a fight for the first time. I just enjoy the fight, and if i rewatch it later I check for details.

I didn’t want to rewatch that fight because it makes me a sad sad panda.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

same

i can barely watch that fight

by Pyrgz Krum on May 2, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

props to Jones, but Shogun is pure awesome and it hurts my fanheart to watch him get dominated like that. Especially when I know he’s not the same after that 3’rd knee surgery.

Here’s to hoping he beats Griffin in the rematch, and regardless of the outcome, considers a drop to 185.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I deleted it as soon as the PPV was finished.

To have that fight and Fedor-Silva so close together hurts my heart so.

by Cunny on May 2, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

First page that comes up.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jones+vs.+rua+minute+by+minute

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by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Derp

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by Hitmonchan on May 2, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

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by exsanguinator on May 2, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that these pictures were posted and that they are green is the reason I hate all of you. Keep making fucking excuses for your favorite fighters. Rua had dick to offer Jon Jones that fight and you all know it. I hate MMA fans more than any other sports fans. More than Steeler and Patriot fans. I love the sport but the fans are fucking pathetic more often than not.

by Spider_Vemon on May 2, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

*Groans*

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by SSreporters on May 2, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Derp, I surrounded your shitty comment

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by Hitmonchan on May 2, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like how Jones surrounded your shitty god. Made him look like an ole bitch? Get off your high horse and stop making excuses for Rua. He got the dog shit stomped out of him by a better more talented fighter.

by Spider_Vemon on May 2, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

See ya

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by woomikee on May 2, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get your path of logic.

Jon Jones is the better fighter, therefore he can gouge eyes?

I’ll admit I doubt the eye gouging effected the outcome of the fight, but if you’re going to win anyways why gouge the poor guy’s eyes?
 Oh and one more thing

by OptimusPiss on May 2, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats all im saying. Im just tired of hearing every excuse in the book for Rua. “His knee was bum. Judges gave him a miracle decision. Jones gouged his eyes and his knee was bum and he hadnt fought in forever and a day.” blah blah blah

by Spider_Vemon on May 3, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wtf

I said nothing about Rua.

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by Hitmonchan on May 2, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

But …we love you.

We can’t help it Jake shields and Jon Jones liike to dig for quarters in peoples eyes

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 2, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont care if they did. The fact is its not an excuse. Shields still lost. And Im glad he lost. And Jon Jones was superior IN EVERY WAY to Rua. And always will be. Deal with it. Sorry I just fucked your days up with some truth.

by Spider_Vemon on May 2, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shields lost and Jones won. So? Noone said anything about winning but you, that wasn’t the point…

by umbalata on May 2, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

who said it was an excuse?? Jones jabs people in the eyes and grips them by the eyes and its dirty. Jones is a great fight, but also a little dirty too. My day is fine looks like we fucked yours up to get such anger from you. Have a coke and a smile and calm down dude

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by Riley_96 on May 2, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The whole top thread was about eye poking, it had nothing to do with making excuses about Rua. Maybe you hate MMA fans cause your inferior intelligence level can’t keep up with us. Come back when you’re not a dumb ass.

by SpinningFistback on May 3, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that a variation of the “Stockton Slap” that Goldie told us about last night?

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by Earl Montclair on May 2, 2011 1:21 AM EDT reply actions  

It's Jake shields

He literally has the worst stand up of any top 5-10 fighter in any weight class. Some of the “head kicks” he threw were comical, not to mention his boxercise 1-2 combo. It’s embarrassing that he let shields stay around long enough to get poked in the eye in a purely stand up fight.

Gsp is capable of knocking shields out blindfolded, but he’d rather risk giving a post fight apology for a boring fight then losing.

by RoB_ex on May 2, 2011 1:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

lol

you’re a funny guy.

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by Loot on May 2, 2011 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

But Kevin Burns can’t throw closed fist punches!

by Tats16 on May 2, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or Kos

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by RolloTomasi on May 2, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

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by RolloTomasi on May 2, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

That fight was a joke, Maz was at his best(worst), 4 eye pokes with the final one resulting in a tko, that was some of the worst reffing I have seen.

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by Kefka on May 2, 2011 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

No point deductions btw.

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by Kefka on May 2, 2011 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

so THIS is why GSP said this was his most dangerous opponent to date.

Shields wanted to get revenge on Georges’ eyes for what he does to everyone else’s eyes.

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by Earl Montclair on May 2, 2011 1:37 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Eye on eye warfare…

by haggardhero on May 2, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Manny performs well this Saturday

he trained with GSP a little when they were both here in the Philippines. Maybe Kos and Margarito resulted to voodoo to get revenge for their eye injuries.

So let me get this straight: the WWE has gone from the powerful "Austin 3:16" to the dominant and iconic "Can you smell what the Rock is cooking?" all the way to... (cue baby voice) "You can't see me." Oh, believe me, we all can see you. A blind-folded, sleeping, stuck in the basement, Stevie Wonder can see your monkey ass. - The Rock

by Rod Mapada on May 2, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

He trained along side GSP… they both took turns hitting the pads with Roach.

by Anton Tabuena on May 2, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

he trained had picture taking with GSP a little when they were both here in the Philippines

alright, fixed. lol

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by Rod Mapada on May 2, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

In an interview, maybe...

To save me some time on 25% of all threads, here's the universal answer to the Fedor-debate: Fedor is the most accomplished MMA fighter ever. That is a fact. If he still is the best fighter at this point in time is up for debate.

by KGNLuc on May 2, 2011 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sort of feel bad for GSP, I’m sure he wanted to just demoralize Shields in the first and then start to close in and finish in the latter rounds, 3,4, and 5th, but alas he was poked in the eye and was relegated to what we saw. We’ll never know for sure though, I think once Jake was a little more bewildered he’d have gotten a touch more aggressive, like he did with Kos (which was less boring but still boring). Maybe even gone for a take down and done top damage the way he did Alves etc.
Going in for the kill on Jake in the first would’ve been dumb, a fresh Jake on the ground is really really dangerous. However, after that leg kick, man he should’ve been on that. He should have more confidence in his BJJ defense!
But I suppose there’s always next time. I’d really like to see him be a tad more aggressive, but I’ll never hold against him jabbing his opponent into desperation in the 1st. What surprised me was that Jake never really got desperate at all, he just sort of figured “whelp, lost this one, I guess I’ll just go ahead and dance for the next 3 rounds. Maybe I’ll catch him, my standup is really underrated.”

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by Dooda on May 2, 2011 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

You know what?

I didn’t use to think that she had man parts until I google image searched it, and there are some very suspect pictures.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Loool

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by spectaa on May 2, 2011 7:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I found it

Gsp’s weakness: eye poke defense

by shogunism on May 2, 2011 2:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

smh

GSP cant see and got bloodied by Shields, I'm good with that

by DL2kold on May 2, 2011 2:26 AM EDT reply actions  

This is a normal open palm strike!!

People do it all the time, especially if your hand hurts from punching someone’s elbow or something. Urijah Faber did only open palm strikes to MTB in the final 2 rounds of their rematch.

Shields most likely wasn’t trying to eye poke GSP so lets all relax. He could have even been reaching for a Thai clench thinking GSP was stepping in. This is no big deal, especially bc its to the wrong eye anyway.

by HighNoon on May 2, 2011 2:27 AM EDT reply actions  

oh one more thing

it wasnt like shields’ hand was injured or anything, he threw hooks with no problem at all after that eyepoke

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by DK_Monster on May 2, 2011 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I was just about to post the same thing. When you use a palm strike the fingers are pointed up or off to the side, not straight ahead. This eye poke would have made the 3 Stooges proud.

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by ANance on May 2, 2011 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, this is not an "open palm strike"

You don’t throw a palm strike like that unless you want to break your fingers, or poke your opponent in the eye.

A palm strike is thrown with the hand pulled backwards, and you hit with the heel of your palm – this is essentially hitting someone with the end of your forearm.

If you land a significantly hard strike with your fingers pointed forward like that, you’re going to break your fingers.

by FrancisC on May 2, 2011 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

What time and round was this ?

by Gracchus on May 2, 2011 3:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Why did they crop the time and round??

Would’ve wanted to see this on slowmotion in HD.

by av1o3 on May 2, 2011 3:03 AM EDT reply actions  

So that’s what Shields meant when he said that GSP has small weaknesses : eyes.

".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."

by dancingChicken on May 2, 2011 3:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I can’t view the clip now, but I thought that in replays during the fight they once showed a clip of what looked to be a flagrant eye-poke with fingers. But by then Rogan had already decided that the injury came from a punch, so he and Goldie didn’t even acknowledge the possible eye-poke replay clip. That annoyed me.

by Horselover Fat on May 2, 2011 4:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Ya, annoyed me too

sigh what can you do?

People who don't have the patience for the technical aspect of MMA should think about getting into another sport. THIS ONE requires BRAINS.

by i_am_awesome_o on May 2, 2011 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, Rogan seemed “on” to me until the Aldo fight. Then he started ignoring what was actually happening because in the second round Hominick looked good standing up. So, therefore, when Aldo was beating him on the feet in rounds 3 and 4…it didn’t matter. They were “in Hominick’s world!” “look at the head movement!” ..etc.

That carried over to the main event as the narrative should have been that GSP was TELLING HIS CORNER HE WAS BLIND IN ONE EYE! But instead they just focused on the stand-up being a surprise as though BEING BLIND would have no effect.

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by Brent Brookhouse on May 2, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

reminds me of the first Penn/ Edgar fight. Penn CLEARLY edged the first 2 rounds, and edged the next 2 IMO, the narrative Rogan pushed was that Frankie was doing so well, he was so surprised that he could be competitive with BJ.

Same with the first Machida/ Rua fight; Rogan was so surprised with how well Shogun was doing that you would’ve thought it was domination. Although I thought Shogun won, that was a very competitive fight in the early going.

Rogan is a fine commentator and I really enjoy most of his work, but sometimes he loses sight of what he should be doing, and that’s earnestly calling the action of the fight.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think if Joe openly acknowledges that George can’t really see maybe they have to stop the fight. At least they certainly have more cause too, once it’s been openly acknowledged. Rogan quoted “problems” with the eye, never that he couldn’t see (as far as I can remember).

That’s instantly what I was thinking, anyway.

by verloc on May 2, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Brent, off topic. Did you check out the article on denegerative brain damage with Gary Goodrige? It’s a really good read, perfect for your series about that stuff. Link here

by Horselover Fat on May 2, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow. I missed that...

thank you!

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by Brent Brookhouse on May 2, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem, I’m with you that it’s a really important issue and I thought this article was very good, so I thought I’d make sure you saw it. Maybe you can work it into some front page magic or something. It was linked to in a fanshot a few days ago, but I guess it kind of got lost in the shuffle.

by Horselover Fat on May 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

gif?

Came someone make a gif out of this please? Can’t see the video at work!

by Shnak on May 2, 2011 7:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's a bad-angled gif of it:

You can clearly see Jake’s fingers getting very close to GSP’s left eye as he’s rushing in for his takedown. Hard to tell if they hit the eye or not, though. Still searching for a better angle.

by Shnak on May 2, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

FYI, that’s different from the video (which has now been taken down)

by paythefighters on May 3, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what’s GSP’s excuse for being tentative in his other fights?

by Stroma on May 2, 2011 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Groin

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by tito (eight and oh) on May 2, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

please tell me you're joking

getting poked in the eye is an excuse?
please try to spar someone with only one eye

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by DK_Monster on May 2, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Serra. That’s his excuse, and understandably so (IMO). Oh, and the Alves, Fitch and Penn fights were great, only thing missing in those was finishes. GSP dominated those guys and put major beatings on them. He wasn’t tentative in those fights. I can’t really excuse the last three GSP fights though… Hardy, Koscheck and Shields. He should’ve done a lot more in each of those and vary his attacks a lot more. For some reason, when GSP has his mind set on one thing, he sticks to it and forget he’s also a master at every other technique in MMA. With Hardy, he wanted a sub and forgot his striking, both standing and on the ground. With Koscheck, the plan was to use his jab, and that’s all he did. With Shields, the plan was to keep it standing by maintaining his distance (jab) and trying to copy Henderson and catch Shields with an overhand right. That’s pretty much all he did.

It’s a weird thing to say, I know, but I feel as though GSP needs LESS gameplanning and let the fight flow more naturally, allowing him to use his array of techniques as the fight happens.

by Shnak on May 2, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's actually a very good point.

By all means, follow a general gameplan, but also don’t limit yourself. That said, the overhand right was landing early and often until his eye got fucked.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. The overhand right was clearly working early in the fight, but looked stupid later in the fight when he was missing by two feet when his vision was screwed up.

by Shnak on May 2, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok i wont argue with him being a lil tentative

maybe he is. i dont think so but since he didnt really finish (and get really close to finish) fights lately so i guess you can blame him for being tentative. but saying getting poked in the eye an excuse is just not right. I don’t blame him for being tentative when he only could see with one eye.
with one eye, you get fucked up distance which causes dramatic decrease in striking and even TD accuracy. and if i was GSP, I would do the same thing if i was poked in the eye, i would be super cautious cause obviously you dont wanna lose your belt.

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by DK_Monster on May 2, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree with you about the eye poke thing. That’s not a made-up excuse, it clearly was bothering him and he didn’t do much the rest of the fight. No questions there.

I was more adressing the rather tentative approach to his game in recent fights, generally. It’s all in his head. He doesn’t want to get cracked again like he did by Serra.

by Shnak on May 2, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tentative where?

vs. Hardy, fine. He wanted to submit Hardy, and failed.

I didn’t see him tentative elsewhere.

by paythefighters on May 3, 2011 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s funny that the eye injury occurs shortly after the announcers mention Chuck Liddell yelled something out to Shields….

by Jonathan Snowden on May 2, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

CONSPIRACY!

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by AJB on May 2, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard Chuck say: “Poke his eye out Jake!!!”. Really, I did!

by Shnak on May 2, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also suspicious

Ric Flair, master of the Greco-Roman Eyepoke, was in Shields’ corner.

by Verklemptomaniac on May 2, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

GSP I forgive you!!

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by Noah'sArk on May 2, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Jake Shields was actually Jon Jones in disguise

Determined to get away with illegal moves in every weight class.

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by SSreporters on May 2, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Can not believe some of the crap on here about Shields he was not dirty he just has awful technique.

by Hioki's Hamster on May 2, 2011 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Meh.

It’s pretty shady that he shot his hand straight out with his fingers outstretched.

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by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

what i really find strange is

the ufc brass have made zero excuses for GSP, its as if they want GSP to get crucified by his own fans. at the post fight presser when asked about gsp’s performance all white could say was “they both respected each other” and “sheilds is no joke”, not even a peep about the eyepoke, to add to insult he went on to say that chuck told him that sheilds won the fight and it was close, really ? this is what GSP gets for being a company man and lobbying the get MMA sanctioned across Canada ?

and rogan not bringing the eyepoke during the fight, i expect this much from him, being a huge penn/diaz mark, i wont be surprised if he secretly hates georges. just last week he went on ariel’s show and pissed all over gsp and pretty much declared nick the best WW in the world. i dont know if this is genuine hate for french canadians on dana’s part or there’s some back room drama that im not aware about, but all this hate for gsp is just sickening.

by legion4 on May 2, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Instead of hating on GSP for being cautious or boring

Shouldn’t the other top 20 WW’s in the world get the hate for not bridging the gap between Number 1 and the rest of the pack?

He can get away with being cautious because nobody has brought the fight to him to the point where he has to take risks. Maybe if somebody was as dedicated to getting as well rounded as GSP is, we would see GSP have to really try and finish fights.

by vicesquad26 on May 2, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep.

That’s a very good point. I’m tired of all the hate GSP gets for being boring or being tentative. As much as I’d like to see the hungry and aggressive GSP from pre-Serra, it’s hard to fault him for playing it safe. And really, he’s there to defend his title, and that’s what he does. It’s up to his opponents to come and take it away from him. It’s up to them to take the fight to GSP and make him work hard at keeping the belt. And so far, nobody’s even come close to do that.

by Shnak on May 2, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

GSP fans give it up.

You act like GSP would have done something differently with two eyes. He does the same thing every fight. He didn’t do shit the first two rounds. When he knocked Jake down, did he go in for the kill? No, he just stood there like he always does. One eye, two eyes, GSP is a sfae, boring fighter.

by barpower on May 2, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

i wrote this in another post but i think this might be relevant to what you are saying

he used the overhand right and exagerrated it based on Hendo’s first round against Shields.
in the first 2 rounds it was landing, maintaining distance and setting up the spinning back kick.
after the 2nd round eye gouge/poke/scrape GSP continued w/ the initial stages of his plan because maintaining distance allowed him the best vision possible. if he had started closing distance he would have jeopardized his sight lines and increased the chances of one of the worst strikers (for top ranked fighters) to catch him w/ something and ending on his back, which is the LAST place he wanted to be.

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by F'n Clownshoes on May 2, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not saying he wasn't being safe

i’m saying we didn’t get to see his game plan come to fruition. unfortunately, his game plan more than likely would of ended in a 5 round unanimous decision, it’s just that Jake would have looked a lot worse for wear.

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by F'n Clownshoes on May 2, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hit Shields with a few spinning back kicks that connected solidly early in the fight, plus he landed 4 or 5 solid overhand rights, also early in the fight. He had a superman punch that connected well, too. He was clearly dominating early in the fight, and who knows what would’ve happened had he continued that way the rest of the fight. It was clear his eye was bothering him though as he started missing his overhand rights by a feet or two. He also stopped trying spinning back kicks.

by Shnak on May 2, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first two rounds against BJ Penn looked safe and boring, too.

But he was actually setting up BJ for the later rounds by overworking his deltoids. GSP’s plans always start slow.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on May 2, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm, yes. He did go for the kill.

That’s how Jake got back up. GSP missed, and Jake grabbed a leg.

by paythefighters on May 3, 2011 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you wanna turn a blind eye to what happened be my guest!

im not asking for dana to fabricate anything, i just want him to say it like it is, and when has dana made excuses for him ? after both kos and hardy fights GSP was present to answer his own questions and own up to his mistakes, as much as you want to believe the eye poke had no effect on the fight, you know thats far from the truth.

there is no pattern here, he always tries to finish! he woulda done the same here in the later rounds if if wasnt for the flagrant eye poke.

by legion4 on May 2, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally

Its good to get some evidence in my defense of GSP. How anyone can put the blame on him after seeing the blatant eyepoke is ridiculous. And people saying it wasnt a “real” injury are just retarded, he went to the hospital and even hours after the fight his vision hadn’t returned. It doesnt take much to tear or detach your retina and if that happens you are not seeing out of your eye. I think any other fighter would have gotten the benefit of the doubt(except maybe Fedor or Lensar) but people have finally found a way to criticize GSP so they are going all out with it.

by DCJon. on May 2, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

First two rounds of Koscheck looked safe too,

and that’s how it went the entire fight. Why bring up a gassed BJ who GSP fought 2 years ago? If you’re going to make comparisons, bring up his recent fights. The fact is, he doesn’t take chances. And if you watch his last three fights, what proof has he given you that makes you beleive he was going to take a chance in this fight? He can’t finish HArdy, who gets knocked out by Condit in the first round, who took a chance himself by exspoxing his chin, which could have put him down if Hardy connected first.

Against Shields, rounds 1 and 2 looked the exact same as 3,4 and 5 to me. Again, GSP knocked Shields down, but then just stood there. There’s no excuse for that. He doesn’t have the drive, he doesn’t have the will, or heart. You can turn a blind eye if you want to, but the proof is in the pudding.

by barpower on May 2, 2011 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Against Shields, rounds 1 and 2 looked the exact same as 3,4 and 5 to me.

If you really think that, I think you may have something wrong with your vision, just like GSP did Saturday night…

by Shnak on May 2, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hardy treated GSP completely different from Condit. He was all defense against GSP, rolling with punches, throwing so cautiously that he went 0 for 18 from striking range. Even if GSP did stick his head out, Hardy wouldn’t have exposed his.

Against Condit, he said that he had more power in his pinky than Condit did in his entire body. Had no respect for Condit.

Same thing happened with Koscheck. Thiago was the newcomer, supposedly a stepping stone to a title shot. Kos thought he could own Thiago on the feet, and did this awful leaping jab with his head faced down.

I don’t even believe you watched the fight, given those remarks. After the first knockdown, Shields was 10 feet away and sprung back to his feet immediately. After the head kick, GSP swung violently at Shields’ head. When he missed, Shields grabbed a leg and stood up.

by paythefighters on May 3, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, maybe I'm blind then

but I stand by my statements. THe only difference was GSP was missing his strikes more, in 3,4,5. But as far as taking risks, no difference. Jab,jab, jab, superman punch, sloppy haymaker, back fist, knock your opponent down, then just stand there, jab, jab.

by barpower on May 2, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

And the other difference is that GSP was getting hit more.

GSP was hitting Jake with the haymakers, just not cleanly. Give him his eye back and Shields gets dropped several times more.

by paythefighters on May 3, 2011 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm mad at Jake Shields.

Not just because of the eye poke but because after the eye poke he did nothing to make this an exciting fight, either. GSP couldn’t see out of one eye and Shields still clung to his crappy stand-up and did not take advantage of the opportunity that was there for him to win this fight. Maybe it was a boring GSP fight but it was a pretty boring Jake Shields fight, too.

Honey badger don't care.

by KatGirl on May 2, 2011 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

It's true, they're both boring as hell

But I blame the UFC for promoting GSP like he’s such an exciting fighter, he’s not. And he shouldn’t be able to headline fights anymore. Let him co headline.

by barpower on May 2, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

"And he shouldn't be able to headline fights anymore"

This is just plain silly – especially after some of the stuff Anderson Silva has pulled intentionally

Michael Bisping - hahaha!

by MichaelD8 on May 2, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody else could be any more exciting against those guys

Hendo, Daley, Condit, Lawler tried against Shields and failed.

Rumble, Daley, Alves tried against Koscheck and failed.

by paythefighters on May 3, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

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