UFC 129 Results: Restful Sundays, Wasted Opportunities And Sleeping On The Dragon
As someone that used to work in game presentation for a minor league hockey team, I appreciate and understand the logistics and massive amount of production work that goes into an event like Saturday's UFC 129. The amount of behind-the-scenes moving parts that work in perfect form and function is staggering, but there's only so much you can do to prepare for technical gremlins and unforeseen accidents. At some point, you need to simply say a few Hail Marys and hope that the people you hired can do the job that you've paid them to do.
If anything did go wrong Saturday or with fight week in general, we never saw it. From a visual perspective, UFC 129 delivered. From a content point, it delivered, packing in nearly every fight between Spike and the PPV itself. From a news point, it delivered and even for someone like myself that lives in the MMA media world, I was impressed with how big the event felt from a media build standpoint. The Super Bowl analogy may be played out, but it's accurate and to me, the UFC hit on something they probably will ignore. That would be a yearly mega-show of Toronto-esque proportions that attracts bidders, ala WWE's Wrestlemania.
However, more stadium shows are coming and the challenge will be to assemble cards that will feel meaningful enough to attract 50,000+. Possible? Yes. Matching the build up, execution and pure furor of UFC 129? That's a little tougher.
For those involved, Sunday (or more likely Monday) provided a day of rest for the Zuffa crew that allowed them to reflect on what exactly they pulled off. Similar to UFC 100, UFC 129 felt like something so much more than just your run of the mill UFC event and considering they run 20+ events a year, that's a great accomplishment. Well done, Zuffa. Well done.
Jake Shields needs to be great again
Give Jake Shields credit in that he bloodied up Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre and even won a round which at minimum, made for a good accounting of himself in a fight and environment that became much bigger than himself. The HP Pavilion that wasn't.
But there was never a point in which Shields had GSP in serious trouble and never a point in which anyone felt the title was in jeopardy. Shields' stature may have been raised slightly by the exposure, but regardless, he lost and with his UFC debut against Martin Kampmann regarded as a failure of a debut, that leaves Shields in quite a predicament.
Thus far, Shields has looked nothing like what the marquee would have you believe. He went undefeated for six years, had a 15-fight win streak and was a champion everywhere else but the UFC. There's another gear that Shields needs to kick into and it's not happening. Even before he moved to Zuffa-land, Dan Henderson came justthisclose to beating him by first round TKO and Jason "Mayhem" Miller was a bell ring away from a submission victory.
That's why Shields' next fight is so important. He needs to come strong and show why the UFC wanted him to begin with. He needs to finish a guy and show why some people thought he had a chance against GSP to begin with. Otherwise, he'll be known as a "Strikeforce guy" that couldn't hang with the best of the UFC and will become just another guy.
Lyoto Machida: are we sleeping on his victory?
The UFC career of Lyoto Machida has been an unusual one with a collection of fights derided by some as dull, spiced by some exciting moments that had us thinking he could be a dominant 205-pound champion.
But coming off a controversial decision title defense over Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua, a subsequent and definitive title loss to Rua and a November decision defeat to Rampage Jackson, Machida desperately needed a win Saturday against Randy couture. Thanks to a vicious kick, he got it.
However, the win felt like it was mostly an afterthought amidst the Couture retirement talk. Who does he fight next that would be compelling? Can he return to finishing opponents or was this simply a case of an overmatched opponent? It felt like there should have been more made of a former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion knocking out another former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, but perhaps it's trying to understand just what we have today in Lyoto Machida that is throwing me off.
Randy Couture: did the UFC sleep on his departure?
On the flip side of Machida was Couture, one of the comforting faces and figures in MMA who called it a career but in a way that didn't befit someone that has meant this much to the sport. Saturday should have been a celebration of his accomplishments and not just a throwaway moment in the middle of a PPV. Perhaps it was because Dana White didn't fully believe Couture was serious when he said his fight with Machida would be his last, but that's his fault for being delusional about the premise of a 47-year-old man returning to action once again.
couture gave the UFC an amazing opportunity Saturday night to do something even bigger than simply airing a final fight. He gave them a golden chance to create one of those "moments" and provide 55,000 the opportunity to shower cheers and praise upon someone that defies athletic logic at this age. The UFC didn't totally blow it, but they didn't come close to doing the moment justice either. Couture isn't just another guy -- he's someone that inspired many with his high success level in a young person's sport.
We've got another month to wait
It felt like an eternity between UFC events and considering how frequently Zuffa puts on cards, the near month from UFC Fight Night: Nogueria vs. Davis and UFC 129 might as well have been six months. UFC-only fans will have another month-long stretch without the Octagon as the Zuffa crew is off until Memorial Day weekend with UFC 130, headlined by Lightweight Champion Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard.
The discussion about oversaturation of MMA is one I have quite frequently as we're in a culture of quantity over quality these days. I'll admit that at times, a month between events felt a little long, but if that means stronger top-to-bottom cards and better value for fans buying PPVs, I could definitely get used to it.
- GSP Tried to Force the KO Against Jake Shields - Kid Nate
- The Case for Georges St. Pierre vs. Nick Diaz - Leland Roling
- Lyoto Machida, Ivan Menjivar Walk the Come Back Trail - Leland Roling
- Jose Aldo Continues Fight for Mainstream Recognition - David St. Martin
- Georges St. Pierre vs. Anderson Silva Loses Steam - Brent Brookhouse
- Great Judging Should Be Applauded Sometimes - Tim Burke
- UFC Hits Home Run With UFC 129 Live Experience - Matt Bishop
- Zuffa and the UFC Finally Hit It Big - Matthew Roth
- Hours After, GSP Still Can't See With His Left Eye - Anton Tabuena
- UFC 129 Play by Play and Live Commentary - Brent Brookhouse
- Is Steven Seagal Secretly a Martial Arts Genius? - Jonathan Snowden
- Georges St. Pierre Holds Back UFC's Canadian Coming Out Party at UFC 129 - Jonathan Snowden
- UFC 129 Post-Fight Press Conference Video
- Georges St. Pierre Slips Past Jake Shields
- Jose Aldo Holds Off Mark Hominick
- Lyoto Machida Clouts Randy Couture
- Vladimir Matyushenko Mops the Floor With Jason Brilz
- Ben Henderson Whips Up On Mark Bocek
- Rory MacDonald Ragdolls Nate Diaz
- Jake Ellenberger Brutalizes Sean Pierson
- Claude Patrick Edges Daniel Roberts
- Pablo Garza Submits Yves Jabouin
- John Makdessi KO's Kyle Watson With Spinning Back Fist
- Jason MacDonald Triangles Ryan Jensen
- Ivan Menjivar Clocks Charlie Valencia
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i'm so excited Lyoto won
He is what the LHW needs as a contender, the only one openly saying he is going back for his title, he is one of the most talented fighters ever to grace the octagon, it was an epic crane kick that put the natural into retirement.
The whole GSP vs Shields unanimous decision has been receiving too much unwarranted grief, the guy won with one eye, and Shields didn’t feel the sense of urgancy to use his main strengths, some people fight with other people’s weaknesses and others fight with their strengths, I guess Jake got caught up in a mind game more than championship bout.
Agreed. I have no clue how Jake could think he’d win without taking the fight down. Biggest gameplan failure, ever?? Sure, GSP’s hard to take down… but why stop trying??
GSP didn’t want the fight to get to the floor but still took Shields down two times (out of three tries) without trouble at all. Shields, who NEEDED the fight to get to the floor, failed on all six takedown attempts, and didn’t even bother to try in the 5th round. Is it possible he thought he was winning the fight by then?!
I’m baffled at how Shields won 15 consecutive fights after this performance. If someone hadn’t known this fact going into this fight, you’d think Shields was a MMA newcomer with 3 or 4 fights on his record. It really was pathetic.
In no way
was Jake’s game plan any worse than Forrest Griffin’s against Anderson Silva.
No game plan could EVER be worse.
Think about it!
To be fair, there just wasn’t a smart gameplan for Griffin against Silva. Everyone thought his only way was to be aggressive and push Silva against the cage. Well, that didn’t happen.
Jake said himself after the fight that he got away from taking the fight to the ground after he failed on his first few attempts. Like I said, he was already resigned that he would suffer his first loss in 6 years and simply went through the motions to finish the fight.
From what the coaches were saying,
Forrest’s gameplan was definitely to run Anderson into the fence, try to get him down, and work from the top. Make his size advantage work for him. Instead, Ando lured Forrest into brawling by sticking out his chin and dropping his hands, and Forrest stupidly obliged him. Not that he would’ve won if he had tried to execute the gameplan, but Ando really just mind fucked him. He knew his head movement, reflexes, and counters were more than enough to dust Forrest even with his hands down and chin up.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
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-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I very much agree
Lyoto’s victory was epic, and not just because of the way he finished it. For me, it was the most important moment of 129. Before the event, I kept thinking: I just hope Machida gets the win. He did, and in brutal fashion.
by Thomas Benjamin on May 2, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I know I might be in a minority, but I actually got a little more respect for Shields in the GSP fight. Despite the fact that his striking sucked bad, he kept coming forward the whole time. He should have varied his takedown attempts a little more, but he made a good effort despite his massive striking limitations
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by StevenGiles on May 2, 2011 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Shields looked resigned to lose somewhere in the 2nd round to me. Like he didn’t care that his 15 win streak was coming to an end. He realized early he had no way to win the fight and accepted that fact way too easily. Maybe Shields just isn’t as perceverant as he was made to be? When asked what he’d do differently than Koscheck, he’d say he was more perceverant than Koscheck and that he’d find a way to take the fight down. Well, he didn’t, and looked just as bad as Koscheck did.
"We've got another month to wait"
What’s going on with the rumored Scotland UFN? Isn’t that supposed to be in 2 weeks? I guess not at this point…
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-Socrates
No go on Scotland
It was basically announced by Dana months ago and just never followed up on. Strange.
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I can't understate
How amazing the live experience was. I have no idea if it translated to the broadcast but being there first hand it felt like something special and definitely one of the most unique, intense, dramatic and transcendant live sporting experiences of my life.
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Fanpost it bro!
Funny that your only post is the link to the rumor of a card at the Rogers Center.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know that I could do it justice
But I’ll tell you, the fifth round of the Hominick/Aldo fight was easily the most intense live sporting experience I’ve ever had.
I’ve been to the Rogers Center dozens if not hundreds of times since it opened, and to hear it that loud, so loud that the ground was literally shaking was just such a breath taking experience.
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Live UFC shows are SICK.
The energy is so great. I’ve only been to one (UFC 92, which was fucking amazing), but i’m glad I did. The better viewing quality is at home, but going to the arena is a great experience. Plus, it helps to have box seats (my friend’s dad is loaded)
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
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by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
This was my 7th
Including all 4 in Montreal. The only one that might come close to this was the Serra/GSP rematch.
One thing I worried about was that it would be difficult to get a good sightline or vantage point on the cage or a screen (though granted I had excellent seats) but taking a quick spin around the stadium during one of the breaks between fights, it didn’t seem like there would be a bad seat in the house.
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Those big stadiums
mean big money. If the UFC can keep filling those, they will keep growing and growing. Hopefully they get Madison Square Garden sooner than later.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I just hope they don't overuse the stadium show
This was something special and I don’t think they should even try to recreate it, even back in Toronto. They next time they do a big show, just start from scratch again and create another great and unique fan experience.
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Only supercards will work for a stadium.
You can’t pack a house like that with just any old card.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure you could do it in Toronto at least twice a year. A title fight plus 2-3 other good fights on the main card would be enough.
That might be too much too soon.
You need to let that market simmer for a while. Maybe if they choose to do St. Pierre/ Silva later in the year, Toronto would be a good place to do so. Hopefully they get MMA in New York, although that dickwad Bob Reilly has been a serious deterrent thus far. It’s just so hypocritical for them to allow boxing but ban MMA.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
No you couldn't do it here, not like that twice a year
Toronto fans will burn out quickly and the “special event” feel of it would quickly be erased.
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Seen a post from @ a Chinese Forum
He said he literally cried during the 5th round of Hominick/Aldo…
From China with love.
And rice. A lot of.
It was something else
I’ve been all over North America and been to a good deal of the major sports venues and a lot of big games, and there is nothing that compares to that fifth round.
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I had to turn down the volume on my TV during that round.
It was hurting my ears. haha
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I've been saying it for a while
I think Machida has the best style to give Jones some trouble, not saying he’d win it but I think he has the best chance. Hopefully Dana will not match him with Shogun again as he said during the PC, because he could potentially lose again and we wouldn’t get to see Machida vs Jones.
not always will those who dumps on you be your enemies
and not always will those who take you out of shit be your friends
I agree.
He’s strong as hell from the clinch, as evidenced by his staunch “GTFO of here” treatment of clinch master Randy Couture. And when he’s confident, his strikes are very potent, it seems like he’s got his groove back. Jones will have trouble finding him, and the way he overextends on his right cross, I could see Machida lunging in with a counter and stunning Jon. I definitely favor Jones, but eventually he WILL look human. I think Rashad and Lyoto can both give him a damn good fight.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
you put it perfectly. I just hope they give Machida one more fight to really help him get his confidence level back to where it needs to be. Perhaps the loser of Hamill/Rampage
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Nah,
I think they should give him a contender. Loser of page/ Hamill would be a step back. If anything, i’d like to see him against the winner of that fight (probably Rampage). I think he deserves a rematch.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Huzzah, count me in as a Machida believer!
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on May 2, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you
Of the top contenders in LHW, Machida’s style seems to be best suited to Jones
I don’t agree with wait to wait a month between card, just so there a little better. On the other hand, if Strikeforce was on, it be no biggie. UFC, 2 weeks later SF, 2 weeks later UFC, 2 weeks later UFC fightnight/free card, then SF again,etc.
I am free because I choose to be so-Me
There's bellator,
and they actually have some solid cards upcoming.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Really Wish Lyoto Could have gotten Phil Davis but Rashads got em...
So i’d like to give him Dan Henderson, King Mo or Bader…
I’m not resting until I’m officially Anderson Silva status.- Jon "Bones" Jones
Didn't you know dude?
Bader’s already slated to feast on the remains of Tito’s bum spine and cracked skull.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
The Return of the Dragon... Is amoung us!
The Machida I saw in this fight was the most focused and determined Machida I’ve ever seen. Watch out who ever fights this man next. Whether it be Shogun or Rampage. This Machida is going to get a title shot soon. Then kick Jone’s teeth down his throat.
Yeah,
he looked like he did against Thiago and Rashad. Sharp, confident, evasive but not tentative.
I can already picture the movie- “How Machida Got His Groove Back”. It will kill amongst the Brazilian-Japanese demographic.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I would love to find a larger picture of that champions Q&A
You know Joe, Brandon Vera is considered to be a Heavyweight George St.Pierre because he just comes, comes, and comes again... -Mike Goldberg, UFC 57
Cheick Kongo looks like a cross between Evander Holyfield and pop singer Seal!
Melvin Guilard looks like a little Kevin Randelman!
-Mike "All black people look alike to me" Goldberg, UFC 62/64
Shields failed...
…is that so hard to understand?
He failed to follow through on his gameplan, because GSP stopped him any time he tried.
He failed to beat him, even after a blatant eye gouge (even if it was accidental).
And people find this surprising after his performances against Kampmann, Henderson and Miller? Really? Yeah, I’m sure that it must be the greasing or some other cheatery by GSP and Jackson, not that he’s just an unbelievably good fighter at the moment working with and unbelievably good strategist for him.

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