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A Few Excerpts From Brock Lesnar's New Book, "Death Clutch"

Brock Lesnar's new book called "Death Clutch" will be coming out this month. You can read a few excerpts here.

He's been forced out of his UFC 131 bout against Junior dos Santos due to diverticulitis, and while Brock Lesnar isn't sure when he will be able to fight again, that won't stop them from promoting his new book called "Death Clutch: My Story of Determination, Domination, and Survival". He penned the story of his life along with his former manager from pro-wrestling, Paul Heyman, and here are a few excerpts on the book that comes out this month.

On pages 83-85, Lesnar talks about his second year in the WWE where you could already see why he eventually decided to leave pro-wrestling. He details how much he enjoys his privacy, and talks about a fellow pro-wrestler he envied a bit in this chapter called "Starting Year Two":

My first year on the main roster in WWE was a blur. My second year was even worse. I was running into the grind. Same routine every day, day in and day out. The money was great, and I was buying a lot of nice things, but I had no time to enjoy any of it. That touring schedule just eats you up. I just kept thinking that there has to be a better way to make some real money.

The one good thing—okay, great thing—that came out of my second year was that I got to meet my future wife, Rena.

I think it’s pretty common knowledge that I’m a very private man, and there’s a reason for that. When I’m on the job, in the ring, at the arena, I’m there to entertain you. I understand that. You paid to see me, and I owe it to you to make sure your money was well spent. But when I’m not on the job, I don’t think I owe anything to anybody. If you’re a plumber, and you’re out to dinner with your family, would you like it if the waiter walked up and said, "Hey, the toilet just backed up, can you come in the back and fix it?" Probably not. You are there to eat, not to fish tampons out of the drain pipe.

When I’m enjoying some time with my family, I’m not at work. I’m not "on." I’m not there to entertain anyone. I’m a husband and a father. I’m Daddy. That’s who I am, and all I want to be. So if some jackass wants to pose for pictures with me, it really burns my ass because he isn’t just imposing on me, he is imposing on my wife and my children, too.

I think everyone should have a right to privacy. Certainly, my family has a right to be left alone. My wife was on TV for a while, so she can expect some of the attention, I get that. But my children aren’t performers. What makes them fair game? What gives anyone else the right to take pictures of my children? Why does anyone think it’s okay to just walk up to me and act as if I owe them an answer to personal questions? Is it because they bought a ticket or purchased a pay-per-view? I’ve never been able to grasp that. Why can’t I just do my job? If I’m at an event, or out promoting something, that’s one thing. I expect to take pictures and sign autographs. That’s why I’m there. But I deserve a private life, too, and so does my family.

Over the years, I’m sure that being as private as I am has cost me a lot of money. I could be like one of those media whores that shows up anywhere there might be a camera just to keep my name out there, and to keep my face on the TV and in the papers so the endorsements will keep coming in. But that’s not me, and I can live with that.

I like to stay home, spend time with my family, and be left alone. My life is my life. It’s nobody’s business what goes on in my house, or with my wife or my children. I won’t intrude on your private life. Don’t intrude on mine. That’s why, in some ways, the WWE character I envied the most was Kane. He had the greatest gig ever, because he was a big star who wore a mask on TV. When he went home, he’d get to take off the mask and live a normal life. Nobody knew what he looked like, and no one ever bothered him when he went about his personal life. He must have had about as normal a life as you can have in professional wrestling. That’s probably why Glenn Jacobs (Kane) survived for so long in WWE. Maybe I should have worn a mask. I might have lasted just a little longer . . . or not.

After the jump, a few more pages from the book where he talks about various topics such as his UFC 100 bout against Frank Mir, the 'Shooting Star Press' that almost broke his neck, and the motto that helped him get through the day to day grind in the WWE.

Star-divide

On page 45, Brock talked about his motto during his WWE days in a chapter called "Curt Hennig":

While I was training with Brad, I met someone who would become another great influence in my pro wrestling career. His name was Curt Hennig, and I wish he was here today to read this chapter.

Curt was a second-generation wrestler, the son of a big time wrestler in the AWA territory named Larry "The Axe" Hennig. When the old timers all get together and start shooting the shit about "the good old days" of the AWA, they all talk about what a big tough son of a bitch Larry Hennig was in his prime. Curt’s dad smartened him up early about what the pro wrestling business had to offer, and the price you have to pay to achieve success in it.

Curt taught me something that sticks with me to this day—in the wrestling business, you have to "Get in to get out!"

Page 82, he talked about the blotched finishing move that almost broke his neck on a match against Kurt Angle:

There I stood, on the top rope, both arms raised in triumph, my head back, letting the crowd take it all in . . . and then I launched the Shooting Star Press.

Every wrestling fan knows what happened next. My boot slipped off the wet rope, I under-rotated, crashed in spectacular fashion, and gave myself a massive concussion. I damn near broke my neck. I still had enough sense left to know that I had to win, but I don’t remember finishing the match. I did finish, which meant I was the champion again, but I sure don’t remember it. Not at all.

Can you imagine if I had knocked myself out . . . if that "missed move" had become the finish?

The next morning, I was supposed to do a sponsor appearance, but I couldn’t get out of my hotel bed. After I received a few phone calls to rouse me, I finally crawled out and made it down to the appearance. When the sponsor’s people saw me throwing up from the aftereffects of the concussion, they sent me back to the hotel.

After you play in the Super Bowl or the World Series, you get some time to yourself, or to take your family on a vacation. Not in pro wrestling. You’re right back to work the very next day, doing live TV for Raw the first night, or taping SmackDown! two nights after WrestleMania. Kurt made it through the match, and I was lucky to "only" have suffered a concussion. Kurt went in for the alternative surgery, and I was right back on the road as WWE Champion for the second time.

Lastly, page 179 has the first few paragraphs on the chapter called "Road to Redemption", which details his UFC 100 bout against Frank Mir:

UFC 100 was scheduled for July 11, 2009, at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, and my fight with Frank Mir for the undisputed title was the main event. I kept dreaming about what was going to happen in that fight, and I knew I was going to pull that golden horseshoe right out of Frank’s ass and beat him over the head with it.

Frank went around bragging about how he had beaten me, which was one thing. But now he was walking around like it was a foregone conclusion that he was going to beat me again, and that he was already a champion. He’s walking around with a fake title belt, and he thinks it carries the same meaning as the real title? Frank was lucky to get a fight with Big Nog for the fake title when Nog was sick as hell.

Frank was talking about how my punches felt like the ones his little sister would land after jumping on his back when they were kids.

The book comes out on May 24, 2011.

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Even nowadays that Kane's mask is off

I wouldnt dare to approach him and get a pic. Sure I know he just portrays a sick bastard – but meeting a 6’10 man with a fucking face like that would scare the shit out of me.

I'm perfectly willing to insult you in person if you prefer - Luke effin Thomas
But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is Kane's face without a mask

I'm perfectly willing to insult you in person if you prefer - Luke effin Thomas
But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure that’s not Tito ?

by Mantis xX on May 12, 2011 11:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Kane should have left the mask on

He was a much better character before hand

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

agreed.

I'm perfectly willing to insult you in person if you prefer - Luke effin Thomas
But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 13, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I stopped watching wrestling around that time but Kane was my 3rd favorite wrestler behind Stone Cold and Rey Mytserio

Once the Mask came off they changed the character too much to care for.

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truth

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by Derek Suboticki on May 13, 2011 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 13, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree

and with a very few exceptions, I have a hard time imagining myself personally approaching a celebrity in a public place. But the fact that people have a misplaced sense of entitlement regarding celebrities doesn’t make Brock sound any less spoiled and selfish here.

This notion that the average WWE fan should have some inherent understanding of when Brock is “on” and “off” is ludicrous. Fan is short for “fanatic.” If people were reasonable, they wouldn’t be spending time and money on pro wrestling.

Recognizing that those crazies supported his lifestyle and having the tiniest bit of grace about it would be nice.

I saw Chuck D from Public Enemy interviewed once, and he said something to the effect of: as a public figure, you have to understand that what might be a throwaway moment for you, may be something that a fan remembers forever. Now the face that Chuck D is more awesome than Brock Lesnar is not the biggest surprise to anyone, but still.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on May 13, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

My take on it is if the guy is by himself sipping a coffie and doing SFA, go ahead because you’re not taking anything away from his family members or anything away from him.

When he is with his kids than it is different. He spends very little time with his kids so leave him be. Let him have a few hours alone with his kids and family.

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 13, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

You didn't pay to shake his hand or meet him on the street, you paid to see him wreslte.

He did that, he did the hell out of that, so he did give you “your money’s worth”. He just didn’t give you that extra bit you WANT, but he doesn’t NEED to give you.

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love how people get mad when Brock writes this in a book yet have no problem with Eminem rapping the same thing

But at least have the decency in you to leave me alone
When you freaks see me out in the streets when I’m eating or feedin’ my daughter
To not come and speak to me
I don’t know you and no I don’t owe you a motherfuckin thing
I’m not Mr. NSYNC and I’m not what your friends think
I’m not Mr. Friendly
I can be a prick, if you tip me my tank is on empty

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm certain I've never expressed an opinion one way or another about Eminem

And I have no intention of ever bothering Brock or his family under any circumstances. I’m happy to see him in the Octagon, but he strikes me as an incredibly unpleasant person.

I think he could stand to be a little more respectful of, and sympathetic towards, his fans, that’s all.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on May 13, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

As far as I'm concerned his own obligation to his fans is to fight to the best of his abilities

If he shows up, puts on a show in the ring, or tries his best to win a fight in the UFC his job is done.

I’m one of the biggest Brock fans on this site (next to subo) but I don’t feel he owes me anything more than his part of my 50 I spent on the PPV.

After the PPV is over I don’t then expect a hand shake and an autograph… I would feel weird even approaching a guy like that on the street, he isn’t at work.

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

And I can’t imagine a scenario where I would ever approach a celebrity of any type in public as a fan.

"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.

by The American Ronin on May 13, 2011 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Without the fans

those guys have no job. If you’re too fucking high and mighty to take a second out of your day to sign an autograph or take a picture, then I have zero sympathy for you.

Xtreme Couture- The best never rest! The girl in my av is Kari Sweets (you're welcome).

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by ElliotMatheny on May 20, 2011 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong

You make millions on TV? Get ready to be fucked with in public. That’s the deal.

Don’t like getting approached in public? Don’t voluntarily go on TV to make money.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 12, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So the skeezy star fuckers are in the right?

www.hottopicwithphil.com

by Worldisart on May 12, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

Not an issue of right or wrong. It’s an issue of reality vs. desire.

If I order two double-doubles animal-style, I know it’s going to make me fatter and give me gross farts. I can either eat them and deal with it, or I can sacrifice that enjoyment and avoid the negatives.

If I choose to eat the burgers, I get the pleasure and the consequences. I can’t eat them, then get upset at anyone or anything other than myself when I dutch-oven my wife later on.

The realities of fame have been apparent for a century. Get famous, lose privacy. Deal with it.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 12, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way too late

This is like him eating one, then halfway through the second he decides to stop.

Besides, I am willing to bet he knew WAY before he ever stepped in the ring in the WWE that he was about to be on TV. Just like before anyone eats a double-double, they are aware it’s bad for them.

If you are intensely private, don’t go on TV. But that money is attractive…

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 12, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

then you understand
If you are intensely private, don’t go on TV. But that money is attractive…

by Anton Tabuena on May 12, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

He let that attraction override his knowledge that the money came with a price. So – tough-titties. No complaining.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 12, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with FartHammer basically. I mean the Plumber reference is quite stupid.

When you’re a star, you’re paid millions because of the fans, and because they pay for you to be on stage. It’s not exactly in your contract to be good to fans and sign autographs, but it is an unwritten rule that comes with being a celebrity, or sports icon.

If someone doesn’t like it… then they shouldn’t be taking all those millions.

"Expose yourself to your deepest fear; after that, fear has no power, and the fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free." - Jim Morrison

by LowkickGreed on May 12, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I saw Brock at a restaurant eating, damn rights i’d ask him for an autograph or picture. Sorry dude, but I’m part of that group that helps you make 5 million a year for the UFC. Now, flash on… or off?

I doubt anyone here, if they saw Lesnar, or another star, wouldn’t go up and say hi. That’d be a huge regret to me.

"Expose yourself to your deepest fear; after that, fear has no power, and the fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free." - Jim Morrison

by LowkickGreed on May 12, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

You do realize that everyone makes money because of other people, right? Celebrities are not unique in this regard.

by Mike Fagan on May 13, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he is there by himself? yes but it is a shitty thing to do if he is sitting there with his kids trying to share a few hours with them. All the rest of the hours are spent on entertaining people. The guy diserves a little time with his family without having to pose for a photo

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 13, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

More than one person would be told to fuck off

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 13, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chappelle deserves all the humiliation and misfortune fate can throw at him...

…untill he either develops a sense of humour that appeals to people with triple-figure IQs or gets a proper f****** job

"Anyone who enjoys watching sport on television is an imbecile; a dangle-mouthed, cud-chewing, salivating ding-dong with a brain full of dim piss, blobbing out in front of a box watching a grunting thicko knock a ball round a field while their own sad carcass gently coagulates into a wobbling mass of beer and fat and thick white heart-attack gravy" - Charlie Brooker

by Mattyjudo on May 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would you regret letting a man live his life

I would not under any circumstances walk up to a person and demand their attention because I saw them on the picture box. It’s gross.

by malkav on May 13, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He left those millions to make more millions in another sport dude. Not like he left off to become a plumber. The MMA world is growing, and his face on thousands of posters has helped that.

If an MMA fan sees him, they shouldn’t say hi or ask for a picture because it’s his “private life?” Bullshit.

"Expose yourself to your deepest fear; after that, fear has no power, and the fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free." - Jim Morrison

by LowkickGreed on May 12, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I like Brock, don’t get me wrong. I’m usually the one guy defending him a bit during the fights. But come on dude, somethings come with the territory of being “the baddest man on the planet”

"Expose yourself to your deepest fear; after that, fear has no power, and the fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free." - Jim Morrison

by LowkickGreed on May 12, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's why MMA is better for him...

MMA won’t see him unless he’s about to fight, or until he does press tours….

The time he’s away from his home gets to a bare minimum compared to the WWE where you’re touring and dealing with fans every single day… Now his training camp is basically at home, and he won’t get burned out by being on the road, or “harassed” (in his terms) by hordes of fans.

by Anton Tabuena on May 12, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fail to see how he’s not still in the limelight. He’s one of the most publicized/hyped fighters in MMA. He’s still doing TV shows and still makes his cash off the backs off the millions that watch him.

by Robust23 on May 12, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

cause instead of being "on" every single day of the week,

he just has to do it for the very few press tours and duties that the UFC requires him to do… He also won’t be bugged by the fans as much cause majority of his days are spent at home, or hunting in the woods.

He still gets paid big big bucks, he’s still in the limelight kind of, but he won’t have to deal with people as much.

by Anton Tabuena on May 12, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol@ off the backs of the millions that watch him.

People pay for a product, not for a pass to harass a person in public.

GreenHouse

by Loot on May 13, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do people who don’t like the limelight write books about not liking the limelight?

He seems to be highly comfortable with the making-millions-and-not-doing-real-work part of the limelight. It’s the mingling-with-the-rabble part of the limelight that he would appear to have a problem with.

I’d never complain that he shared his thoughts, but I do think his thoughts make him look like kind of an aloof jerk.

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on May 13, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This perfectly summarizes my opinion as well Anton...

"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.

by The American Ronin on May 13, 2011 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

The reason a guy like Lesnar makes millions is because he is a big deal to people; hero, role model, villain, sex symbol. Basically, if the public doesn’t care enough about you to hassle you in public, you aren’t getting paid millions.

I get where he is coming from, I imagine that most celebrities feel that way. But you don’t get paid millions of dollars just to fake wrestle or catch a football or pretend to be a fighter pilot. You’re getting paid to be an icon. Lesnar wants to have his cake and eat it too. Doesn’t mean he is wrong to want privacy, but it just isn’t going to happen.

"an excellent example of why most MMA "journalism" is a joke. Pseudonyms like "toxic" and shitty writing like that dopey article"--- Joe Rogan.

by toxic on May 12, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fuck the public. Lesnar is right, the public is wrong.

I'm perfectly willing to insult you in person if you prefer - Luke effin Thomas
But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see anything wrong with what he said. I don’t care if you are the most famous person in the world, you should still be able to go to a restaurant with your family without having to deal with assholes asking for pictures and autographs.

by Brad Ackerson on May 12, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except those aren't assholes, they're fans.

In other words, they’re the guys responsible for his having the money to take his family to the restaurant in the first place. We’re not talking about stalkers or other creepy people here. It’s unfortunate his family is affected by his professional life, but guess what, so are all families. If my dad were a politician while I was growing up, or were convicted of a sensational crime, do you think that wouldn’t have affected me?

by PlutoCps on May 12, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Being a fan has its limit – and one of them is respecting everybody elses privacy.

I'm perfectly willing to insult you in person if you prefer - Luke effin Thomas
But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

We go to restos because we want to eat and spend a good time with whoever. Its not a place for the public to subdue anyone to their stupid fandon.

I'm perfectly willing to insult you in person if you prefer - Luke effin Thomas
But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes it is, because it is a public place and he is a public figure.
the prior post mentioned if he goes out in public, the public will recognize him regardless if it is a restaurant, a library, or in the crowd at a UFC event.

Sounds like Springfield's got a discipline problem.
- Maybe that's why we beat them at football nearly half the time.

by New_User on May 13, 2011 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look, Btad Ackerson said:

I don’t see anything wrong with what he said. I don’t care if you are the most famous person in the world, you should still be able to go to a restaurant with your family without having to deal with assholes asking for pictures and autographs.
I answered that fans weren’t assholes just because they want an autograph. Then vivero said:
Being a fan has its limit – and one of them is respecting everybody elses privacy.
To which I answered that restaurants aren’t private places, that Brock Lesnar was a public figure and that he not only did not make any efforts to stay out of the public eye, but was still working to gain more notoriety even as he complained about the side-effects of that notoriety.

I’m not making sweeping generalizations about how the world should or shouldn’t be nor telling anybody what are the obligations of celebrities. All I’m saying is that I don’t think a guy is an asshole for asking for an autograph at a restaurant and that it’s hypocritical of Brock Lesnar to complain about public attention when he goes so much out of his way to garner it. For such a purportedly private person isn’t it odd he’s written a “tell all autobiography” (I use the quotes because that’s how Lesnar refers to the book) and has discussed having sex with his wife in public?

by PlutoCps on May 13, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Once again your logic is once you become famous

If you leave your house and go to a restaurant or some where someone can see you they deserve to ask you whatever they want and interrupt your meal/family time.

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did not say one word about anyone deserving anything.

I did say:
1. That I did not think asking for an autograph at a restaurant (preferably after the meal is over) was something one had to be an asshole to do and
2. That Brock Lesnar was hypocritical when he whined about it and described himself as a private person when he did not act like a private person and keeps trying to get ever more exposure for himself.
Appropriate or not, this is a behavior Lesnar has learned to expect from people. He realizes that the cause of it is his celebrity status. So his response is to try to become an even greater celebrity and complain when people keep bothering him? I’m sorry but I just can’t be bothered to care.

by PlutoCps on May 13, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

He acts like pretty private person to me...

Or does disappearing for months at a time give you the impression of someone who likes to be in the spot light?

I do consider someone bothering you when you are EATING WITH YOUR FAMILY an ass hole. I know I wouldn’t be too kind about it celebrity or not.

writing a book isn’t an open invite to constant harassment, this is exactly the problem. Just because someone makes money in the public light doesn’t mean they have to enjoy the public part of it.

For someone who can’t be bothered to care you bitch a lot!

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again...

The guy talks in public about having sex with his wife The guy writes a book which he claims is a “tell all” about his own life. The guy says he is a private person. One of these things is not like the others.

You’ll note I never said anything about harassment. All I’ve talked about is one hypothetical situation in which someone asks for Lesnar’s autograph at a restaurant and how I feel the person who asks for the autograph is not an asshole. Latter I’ve expanded this to say I thought Lesnar was being hypocritical.

I’m sorry, but I just don’t see how a restaurant is such a holy place. I’ve been greeted by acquaintances in restaurants before and I don’t see what the big deal is.

 I have explained my reasoning. You disagree, that’s fine. I don’t require the world to agree with me. I do resent your repeated twisting of my words and my meaning and your aggression. I’ve been respectful and haven’t made any personal remarks, so I see no reason why the same treatment shouldn’t be applied to me.

by PlutoCps on May 13, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He made a refrence to going home and jumping on top of his wife right after a fight

Ever heard of an adrenaline dump?

You knew those people and they were greeting you, they weren’t some random fuck running up to you and begging you to take pictures with them and talk about your match with Angle.

Personal remark? Where? You said you can’t really seem to care, I just pointed out for all your lack of caring there is no lack of bitching, that’s just pointing out how much you seem to actually care.

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard of adrenaline dumps. I didn’t know they caused one to change one’s personality.

Maybe I expressed myself badly (although I believe you just don’t care enough to really pay attention), so I’ll explain myself: I can’t be bothered by Lesnar’s indignation on being annoyed by fans. It comes across to me as bitching. It does bother me a little bit to see people judging others “assholes” on account of behavior I personally don’t consider all that bad, but hey, no skin off my nose. It does bother me very much to be missrepresented and it does bother me even more when you say I’m “bitching” when I expressed a personal opinion once and then had to keep explaining myself over and over.

by PlutoCps on May 13, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

People just feel that because they pay to see you on TV they own your personal time too

You already got what you paid for, you don’t walk out of a movie theater and expect a free drink because you paid for the theater to be able to stay open.

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by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have no idea what that is that you just wrote

Sounds like Springfield's got a discipline problem.
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by New_User on May 13, 2011 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t care if you are the most famous person in the world, you should still be able to go to a restaurant with your family without having to deal with assholes asking for pictures and autographs.

I completely agree, but the reality is that guys need to be selective about where they go if they truly don’t want to be bothered in public.

A few months after we lost in the ‘05 Series, my wife and I were out with a childhood friend in from Peru and his Brazilian wife at Truluck’s in Houston (the old one). Roger Clemens was seated directly adjacent to me (close enough that I could have back-fisted him) with his wife and about 8 others at their table, and not a single person approached him as a fan (including of course, the staff) during the almost 3 hours we were there.

Try that post-Series at a Red Lobster and he either leaves with writer’s cramp or while getting heckled for being an asshole…

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by The American Ronin on May 13, 2011 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair.

Lesnar travels the entire US for the WWE. It’s hard to be selective when the WWE decides “this is a good market for pro-wresting and you should go here”

by Anton Tabuena on May 13, 2011 6:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously how does he not get that you pay the price for fame and fortune. And that price is privacy. Really Brock? That’s day one stuff…

by p123 on May 12, 2011 10:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

because they don’t get the fact that if the dude is with his kids fuck off and leave him alone. If hes walking down the street on his own well thats another thing. When the dude is with his kids and his family nobody has the right to just walk up and interupt that time. As he said when hes on the road and doing the promotional shit, thats what hes there for.

Guys give up so much (including seeing their kids grow up) to entertain fans so while they are trying to have a few hours just being a dad that should be respected

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 12, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

Not how it is. And everyone knows it. So tough shit, rich famous person.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 12, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course its not how it is. People are selfish assholes and they do not care about what the other person is doing aslong as they get what they want from them.

No matter how famous someone is they diserve time with their family without someone coming up looking to get a pen scribble on a photo. If hes sat down by himself its different eatig just reading a paper sure, the only thing he is doing is reading about the latest car craash or what ever, but with his kids people should just leave him alone.

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 12, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

It IS how it is. A selfish guy WILL bother the famous guy for an autograph. Tough.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 12, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh of course it is that way, because people make it that way. I’m just stating that if the dude is spending time with his family others should just leave him alone.

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 12, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree with you

But he should have known it wouldn’t play out like that.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 12, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah it never does. I know it is not possiable, but it would be funny if a media figure hired someone to follow his fans every where and snap pictures of them at the local store and having dinner with his or her family.

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 13, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would fucking love that!

Might pretend to be a Lesnar fan from now on just in case it happens! I could be FAMOUS! YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Mattyjudo on May 13, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because it happens doesn't make it right

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by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Noone said it did…

"Anyone who enjoys watching sport on television is an imbecile; a dangle-mouthed, cud-chewing, salivating ding-dong with a brain full of dim piss, blobbing out in front of a box watching a grunting thicko knock a ball round a field while their own sad carcass gently coagulates into a wobbling mass of beer and fat and thick white heart-attack gravy" - Charlie Brooker

by Mattyjudo on May 13, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wahhhh, Brock’s rich and famous and I’m not! That’s not fair! He owes me the vicarious thrill of getting my photograph with a famous person!

Or maybe you’re not entitled to use another person for your own gratification, no matter how rich or famous they are.

Just a thought.

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by szquirrel on May 13, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean I can understand leavin the kid’s out of it. Why anyone would want to take their pictures to begin with is beyond me.
But I’m not sure what being a media whore is.
Is it being a media whore when you’re putting your face on the cover of a book to sell basically yourself?
If he really wanted to disappear he could. But he isn’t.

by Robust23 on May 12, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Media whore is basically someone who does things in order to make sure people see them and give them attention. Tom Green was one for ever so long

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 12, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's going to be book tours,

but for the most part, Brock sits at home, while everyone pays him millions to read his book… Why wouldn’t he want that?

by Anton Tabuena on May 12, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

But once again i see the book as a way of him telling people about his personal life and answring the questions they have without having to deal with them one at a time.

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 12, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah homie, its a way to make $$$ straight up.

by Robust23 on May 13, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it is, but it also helps answer a lot of questions fans have about the subjects life. I just finished reading Vince neils autobio and it answers a ton of questions about him, sure they are only one side of the story, but he does answer them.

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 13, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s no reason not to want that.
But the people that idolize him enough to buy the book and buy the PPV, don’t deserve to be looked down on when they wanna get his autograph or his pic.

by Robust23 on May 13, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are appropriate times and places for that, one of them is not while he is out eating dinner with his family.

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by Worldisart on May 13, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

He hit the nail on the head

as far as why I hate Frank Mir too.

All of the pre-fight ege-centrism from Mir pissed me off, and Lesnar puts it best. Mir acts as if him winning is just a gaurenteed thing. which is one mind set to have…but to be so public and douche-bag about it ticks me off. He has such a superiority complex about him and overstates all of his accomplishments.

It wasn’t 3 minutes after he knocked out Cro Cop that he was spouting some sh!t about knocking out one of the best strikers of all time. You just had a HORRIBLE main event where YOU were the guy who had a full training camp, and it took you until the 3rd round to finish Cro Cop who took the fight on short notice, had a horrible eye poke in training, had travelers flu when he came to the states etc etc.

A true talent would have crushed that Cro Cop.

As for Lesnar. I like the guy just fine, and I can understand his viewpoint, but I’m not sure it’s one that I would hold.

Being a public figure, you have to understand that people become your fans and all of that jazz, and your private life not being so private comes with the territory.

You don’t have to LIKE being so public, but you might want to find a better way of managing it than just getting angry about it.

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by Chris Groves on May 12, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Easy...
you might want to find a better way of managing it than just getting angry about it.

move to the woods and take up a sport that just needs you to be in vegas only for a few days:

by Anton Tabuena on May 12, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brock's plumber analogy is asinine

Yes, Brock, asking a plumber to unclog a drain when he’s out with his family is insulting and invasive, but I don’t recall people asking you to hit the heavy bag when you’re out, or put the waiter in an arm triangle.

I don’t think people coming up to the plumber and telling them they admire his hard work and that their kids look up to him would make him feel that put out.

I respect Brock’s wishes for his privacy and he deserves such, but using a piss-poor analogy like that shows just out of touch he truly is after being in the spotlight for so long.

Lighten up, Francis.

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by BVandDietPepsi on May 12, 2011 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

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by tha dude on May 12, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should I avoid Colorado high schools for a while now or something?

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by BVandDietPepsi on May 12, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

your analogy is wrong also

it should’ve been steel chairs and shooting star presses instead of Arm triangles. #nitpicking

by Anton Tabuena on May 12, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Brock, asking a plumber to unclog a drain when he’s out with his family is insulting and invasive, but I don’t recall people asking you to hit the heavy bag when you’re out, or put the waiter in an arm triangle.

He specifically mentions people coming up and asking him to pose for pictures. One of the most common pictures MMA fighters are asked for is a mock RNC. Close enough, right?

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by lowellthehammer on May 12, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Not at all

"Anyone who enjoys watching sport on television is an imbecile; a dangle-mouthed, cud-chewing, salivating ding-dong with a brain full of dim piss, blobbing out in front of a box watching a grunting thicko knock a ball round a field while their own sad carcass gently coagulates into a wobbling mass of beer and fat and thick white heart-attack gravy" - Charlie Brooker

by Mattyjudo on May 13, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

As an introvert I get brocks analogy

He is saying him being BROCKLESNARRRR is" toilet to the plumber", not being a fighter.

Regular old brock lesnar doesn’t give a fuck about being social and interacting with people feels like work to him. I mean I certainly don’t feel bad for him but I see where he’s coming from.

by RoB_ex on May 12, 2011 11:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fantastic post

"Anyone who enjoys watching sport on television is an imbecile; a dangle-mouthed, cud-chewing, salivating ding-dong with a brain full of dim piss, blobbing out in front of a box watching a grunting thicko knock a ball round a field while their own sad carcass gently coagulates into a wobbling mass of beer and fat and thick white heart-attack gravy" - Charlie Brooker

by Mattyjudo on May 13, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think he said he didnt know dealing with the public was part of the deal, just that is SHOULDNT be part of the deal. Fair enough

by schm1583 on May 12, 2011 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree with his general principle

famous people don’t owe us anything. if you pay money to see someone perform, then you get to see them perform. they don’t “owe” you anything afterwards. you got what you paid for.

having said that … if you are a public figure, it comes with the territory. you can love it like the kardashians or you can hide from it like jd salinger. it will get you just the same. it’s reality.

what’s the moral? i’m not sure. i have a lot of sympathy for celebrities who are getting fucked with and spied on. then again, he did just write an autobiography. what is that if not an attempt to cash in on the notoriety that he complains about?

it’s a fine line. in the end i think i sympathize. but i understand if people are turned off by this kind of talk, especially when it is in an autobiography that was written to make money.

by Clifford J on May 12, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Your last sentence is right. Sure Brock, privacy rocks. But then you write a tell all book, that will make you money, it seems a lot more intrusive than a simple fan whose starstruck to see you in person.

Kinda fucked up homeslice.

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by LowkickGreed on May 12, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea homie, IT IS because they bought a ticket or purchased a pay-per-view
Why does anyone think it’s okay to just walk up to me and act as if I owe them an answer to personal questions? Is it because they bought a ticket or purchased a pay-per-view?

His plumber analogy is stupid as shit. If I saw my plumber in a restaurant I’d say hi to him. Hell I say hi to anyone I know anywhere.

You’re makin millions of dollars because people love you and you act like they’re beneath you.
Sheeeeeeeeeet, I hope no one buys this shitty book

by Robust23 on May 12, 2011 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Why are you so affected at

the thought a fucking man whats a quite time with his family? Those $50 PPV purchases dont include messing up his family dinner.

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by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

*wants a quite.

I'm perfectly willing to insult you in person if you prefer - Luke effin Thomas
But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

you missed a spot

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by Snatchl on May 13, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

*quiet

"Anyone who enjoys watching sport on television is an imbecile; a dangle-mouthed, cud-chewing, salivating ding-dong with a brain full of dim piss, blobbing out in front of a box watching a grunting thicko knock a ball round a field while their own sad carcass gently coagulates into a wobbling mass of beer and fat and thick white heart-attack gravy" - Charlie Brooker

by Mattyjudo on May 13, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes they do

It’s not cool, but it’s true.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 12, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

True doesnt mean its right.

I'm perfectly willing to insult you in person if you prefer - Luke effin Thomas
But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

which is kind of what I meant by “it’s not cool, but it’s true.”

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 12, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not Brock's responsibility

to handle everyone elses bullshit.

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But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Signing autographs

is handling someone’s bullshit? I thought it was a part of being a celebrity.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 12, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a place for signing autographs, family dinners is not one of them.

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But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 13, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Again

I totally agree. I’m just saying that’s not how it is in the real world, and I know it, you know it, and celebrities know it.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 13, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

So just because a majority...

Of Americans are assholes and demand way too much of celebrities, because that’s common place they have no room to complain?

Please.

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by Sergio Hernandez on May 13, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No, but if they come across as surly and ungrateful do WE not then have a right to complain too?

"Anyone who enjoys watching sport on television is an imbecile; a dangle-mouthed, cud-chewing, salivating ding-dong with a brain full of dim piss, blobbing out in front of a box watching a grunting thicko knock a ball round a field while their own sad carcass gently coagulates into a wobbling mass of beer and fat and thick white heart-attack gravy" - Charlie Brooker

by Mattyjudo on May 13, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they know that going into it?

Yes. That’s what I am saying.

It all goes back to my double-double animal-style analogy. As do most things.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on May 13, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

People feel that way, but after the PPV is over he does not owe anyone shit.

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 12, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand your statement.
Sentence fragments are a bitch

by Robust23 on May 12, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me make it simple.

“WE OWE YOUR LIFE BECAUSE WE LOVE YOU AND PAID FOR YOUR PPV & LIVELYHOOD YOU SHOULD LOVE US BACK AND FUCK YOUR FAMILY TIME, ITS OUR TIME, ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE OUR ENTERTAINER ALL THE TIME CAUSE WE PAID FOR YOUR PPV A MONTH AGO. IF YOU DONT LOVE US, FUCK YOUR BOOK, SHEEEEEETTTT”

^this is wrong.

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But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
haha. Still some errors but I follow what you’re saying. I take it English isn’t your first language but that’s cool.

And my point isn’t that every minute of the day belongs to his fans.
My point is that a dude that spends $50 to watch him on tv doesn’t deserve to be looked down on cause he worships Brock enough to wanna take a picture with him.
It’s those same people that will buy his book and give him even more money, so yeah, I hope no one buys that crap.

Personally I don’t give 2 shits about Brock, but that arrogance is BS

by Robust23 on May 12, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

fucking keyboard. : )

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But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 13, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brock is special and amazing.

I'm perfectly willing to insult you in person if you prefer - Luke effin Thomas
But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach

by vivero on May 12, 2011 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

There I stood, on the top rope, both arms raised in triumph, my head back, letting the crowd take it all in . . . and then I launched the Shooting Star Press

The fact that this sentence was in a book, that was published, and will likely be a bestseller is making me laugh and cry at the same time.

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by Neil Manich on May 12, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Hahahahah

God bless you God.

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by Neil Manich on May 12, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He actually said:

“God bless…….God bless you.” And then threw up the “Big Ups” sign to G-Dizzle.

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by RolloTomasi on May 13, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still waiting for Nick Diaz's book.

It will be a lot like Portrait of The Artist but after Wells knocks him down he gets up and TKOs him with a right hook.

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by pdl on May 13, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

This "Brock Lesnar Illness" is just a marketing ploy,

Derviticulisicks isn’t even a real thing!

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by RolloTomasi on May 12, 2011 11:58 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Kinda funny

"Anyone who enjoys watching sport on television is an imbecile; a dangle-mouthed, cud-chewing, salivating ding-dong with a brain full of dim piss, blobbing out in front of a box watching a grunting thicko knock a ball round a field while their own sad carcass gently coagulates into a wobbling mass of beer and fat and thick white heart-attack gravy" - Charlie Brooker

by Mattyjudo on May 13, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Facepalms at this entire thread*

And a little bit at Brock too.

Being a celebrity means you sacrifice your privacy, whether you’re making millions or not, but you still have the right to finish your dinner without stopping every two minutes to oblige a fan, especially if you’re there with your kids. The rule thumb is, and this is only fair honestly, if you see a celebrity in a restaurant and you want their autograph or a picture with them that badly, you let them finish their meal first before asking. Otherwise yes, you’re a fucking jackass. You’re a big fan and want to get a picture with the guy but you don’t have the patience to wait for him to finish eating first? You’re a selfish shithead more than you are a fan.

(In Brock’s case I figure he’d just tell you to fuck off either way, but that’s beside the point.)

by Chromium on May 13, 2011 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Glad to see Brock giving props to Mr. Perfect.

Curt was criminally underrated and should’ve been given a WWE title run. He was so fun to watch in the ring, and his promos were just as great.

by mountaineers101 on May 13, 2011 12:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I think most of you are looking at this from an adults perspective

Brock just comes off like a straight up dick…being approached by fans goes with the territory, no other way to spin it…When I was 11-12 yrs old my dad would take meand my cousin to live wrestling shows where i’d see some of my favorites like Ric Flair and the Road Warriors…every time we’d go over by the dressing room where the wrestlers would come out to watch the match they would always acknowledge us with a wave or maybe a subtle wink, some would come over and sign autographs… as a kid I was in awe of these guys and it would have totally crushed me if i’d seen these guys in a public place and have them give me the cold shoulder.

by ultimoshogun on May 13, 2011 12:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You were in the dressing room, he never said anything about the dressing room.

Going to see Brock at a show and wanting an autograph or response is one thing, but demanding it during his meal, or when he is out with his kids is another. If you don’t see the difference how is that an adult perspective?

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by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was never “in” the dressing room, fans weren’t allowed..I said over BY the dressing rooms…my point is kids look up these guys like their heroes and he gets pissed off when fans(probably including children) approach him? Dude’s an A-hole.

by ultimoshogun on May 13, 2011 1:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He never said he gets pissed when kids approach him at a wrestling or UFC function

he said he doesn’t like people to interrupt him when he is eating or with his kids…

Dude wants his privacy in private times what an A hole…

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

He made it fairly clear when he is an isn't OK with someone approaching him

and he never said kids… Kids tend not to be able to drive to a restaurant and want to take a picture of his kids

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever dude

Either you just like to argue or you’re a major fanboy…I’m not talking about wrestling/UFC functions…i’m talking about a public place like a restaurant as he states in his book and i’m talking about fans wanting pics gwisth him, NOT his kids…I’m quite aware that kids can’t drive themselves around…you do know parents do take kids to restaurants right? And if he gets pissed if approached by a child fan at public place, then he’s a dick.

by ultimoshogun on May 13, 2011 1:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Did he ever say anything about a kid walking up to him in arestaurant ?

You are just assuming that a kid has done that and he got pissed, it seemed pretty clear to me that he meant grown people, as in teens or above. He never said the word kid anywhere… You did.

Exactly you aren’t talking about a Wrestling event or UFC event you are talking about a place you go out to eat with your wife and kids, you know to be with your wife and kids and have someone feed you. It isn’t a place you should expect to be bombarded with questions, or people asking for autographs.

I don’t understand how a restaurant equals a place where you can go up to someone you don’t know and start talking to them about their job… Obviously you just don’t think it’s a big deal to inject yourself into someone else personal life, I do.

"I'm a little worried about being a slut"
~ Bobby Hill

by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

you’re not taking time away from his meal and kids that way. Of course he would expect that at a show

I’d rather just climb this fridge

by Riley_96 on May 13, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just the look on his face afterwards he looks completely out of it

Can’t believe he was able to lift Cena for an F-5 after hitting his head like that

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by Chris Hines on May 13, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s actually the first time I’ve seen that. Holy. That’s incredible that he could even think after that.

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by T.C. Engel on May 13, 2011 3:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was there live 10 rows back

We thought Brock was dead. They took him out on a stretcher with a neck brace.

by eyeIess on May 13, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Tito Ortiz was sitting 4 rows in front of me

LOL back when he was thinking of getting into Pro Wrestling.

by eyeIess on May 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell has officially frozen over. i found myself agreeing with Brock’s analogy about being a plumber at dinner and not wanting to go handle the toilet that’s backed up.

wow. dunno if he had a ghost writer, but that wasn’t actually terrible to read at all.
man. i can barely think.

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.

by theworldsoldestsport on May 13, 2011 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

After reading through all the comments

this is the only thing that came to mind – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrHxeb_eTI&t=2m22s

I was one of the authors of the Port Huron Statement.

by Grappo on May 13, 2011 3:00 AM EDT reply actions  

If I ran into Brock I’d just say “Hi Brock, hope you are eating your vegetables.” and leave him the hell alone.

I don’t get the whole picture thing with celebrities, or acting like a prepubescent 1960s female Beatles’ fan over people who are considered famous.

Imagine if someone ran up in your face all ‘holy crap can I take a picture of you with me?’ And you have never met them? I’m sure that never becomes natural.

To me it’s down-right creepy, and there’s no real natural transition where it becomes any less awkward and I can understand where Brock is coming from in that regard.

It's just a world, it's just a life.

by DirtyML on May 13, 2011 3:14 AM EDT reply actions  

one day if i see a famous ref
just hanging out, you know
we’ll run up to him
or her, kim winslow is pretty well known
i’ll turn to my friend and knee him in the nadgers

and see if the ref steps in

by Pyrgz Krum on May 13, 2011 8:04 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

recd

for poetry, absurdity, and cracking me up

I consider myself a softcore fan.

by Thor77 on May 13, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

The cynic in me believes the timing of his diverticulitis flare up ...

Benefits Lesnar a lot more in promoting his new book then his current season of TUF.

ESPN style Sports Media Outlets: “Lesnar doing TUF and a new book … ehh, not that interested. Lesnar ill again and might have to retire and a new book? Get him for an interview, quick!”

by KJ Gould on May 13, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I can’t imagine he is making enough from the difference in book sales to make canceling a fight make the slightest sense…

by Jonathan Snowden on May 13, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're f-ing out, I'm f-ing in

I need this on audiobook. Preferably read by Kenny Powers.

by Ben Lebovitz on May 13, 2011 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Entitlement...

I once walked by Greg Duley (singer for The Afghan Whigs and Twilight Singers) who tops my list of people I’d love to be able to sit down and talk to for a few minutes. He was just sitting there at this little show listening to a local band sipping a drink and looking pretty cool with the whole process. Nobody apparently recoginized him and it looked like he was liking it so I was just going to leave it be. As I walked by though, he happened to look up so I simply said “Love your music” and kept on walking. He smiled, nodded, and let me keep walking. Not the story I’d love to be telling other ‘fans’, but it’s one I think he appreciated more at the time and one I’m perfectly capable of living with.

That’s the problem here though with people who have taken issue to Brock disliking the public attention that he gets. They aren’t capable of recognizing that no matter how much you may want to meet a person, sometimes that person would much rather just be hanging out. Whether that is just sitting there sipping a drink listening to a band where nobody recognizes you or whether it is sitting in the middle of a resturant with your family hoping for a nice dinner, we as fans don’t have the right to force ourselves on them. Yes it may be that without us they wouldn’t have any fame or money, but that still doesn’t earn us the right to dictate their lives. We get to punch out of work everyday to spend time with friends, family, or simply by ourselves. Give them that same chance.

The long and short of it, Stop feeling entitled…

by Empty Thoughts on May 13, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Two examples

Example One: I went to a Giants game, saw Tiki Barber walking in the opposite direction just as I got through the gates so I stopped him. I told him he was a great Giant, shook his hand, he smiled said “Thanks” and we parted ways.

Example Two: I was at an airport in Florida, saw Peyton Manning clearly in a hurry to make it to a terminal (or something along those lines). I stopped in my tracks, and watched him. Didn’t stop him, didn’t say a word, just watched in awe as quite possibly the greatest quarterback in NFL history “fast-walked” by my path.

There are times when you can get away with stealing a celbrities time, and there are times when you know you proably shouldn’t. If everyone used their better judgement, comments like these wouldn’t need to be said. I respect Brocks comments, and assume that if more people knew the difference between when’s a good time, and when is not, he woudn’t have to have said them at all.

Lyoto Machida will literally kick your teeth out.

by tito (eight and oh) on May 13, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly this

We saw Peyton eating dinner with friends and family during Mardi Gras. We looked, thought it was awesome and left. No reason to fuck up his time because I’m a fan. There have been plenty of time I’ve seen someone and just walked up and let them know I was a big fan and shook their hands. That’s it.

If you say hi and don’t act like a douche, in my experience, most celebs will chat with you if they have the time and aren’t busy. Like you said, use better judgment.

Why I never joined a frat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-KNVrZaN8M

"Don’t quote old fucks to me" – Brent Brookhouse
"A samurai would bite your cock off if you tried that shit on the battlefield." - Kid Nate

by Chris Barton on May 13, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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