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UFC, Spike TV at the Heart of Bellator's Future in MMA

UFC's Dana White and Spike TV President Kevin Kay pose for a picture at the Sport Media Marketing Awards.

This year will serve as the final year of the UFC's current contract with Spike TV. As we've speculated in the past, the UFC's ability to air preliminary fights on ION TV and Facebook, the recent development of ESPN2 airing UFC Primetime, and the speculation that Spike TV may be sabotaging the UFC's ratings by pushing The Ultimate Fighter and other UFC-branded shows into bad time slots are indications of an ongoing price war between the UFC and Spike TV. Spike TV's ability to control the ratings should allow them to put a lower or similar price on a contract renewal, despite the UFC's growth in many areas.

The UFC is in an unique situation as sports content is at a premium right now. It may not be out of the realm of possibility that the UFC dumps their long-time partner for greener pastures. As MMAPayout.com's Jose Mendoza points out, we are seeing a new trend as networks fight over sports content:

Although some may wonder what the correlation is between this deal and MMA, you don't have to search too long to realize that there is a scramble and bidding war going on at the moment to secure more sport content for networks, many who are either trying to get into the game or just acquire as much content as possible to stay in it. We are currently seeing a new trend for the sports and TV industry right now, where networks are paying a premium for this type of content, where now the Pac-10 has set the standard going forward.

CNBC's Darren Rovell wrote, "[sports are the] best bet on entire television landscape. People get sick of sitcoms, reality shows and soap operas, but fans don't lose interest in a sport. That's why networks don't have any problem signing deals that last as long as they do despite the fact that they have no idea what the economic or technological landscape is going to look like"

The interesting entity in all of this is Bellator Fighting Championships, who sits under the Viacom umbrella on MTV2 and has been thrust into the #2 spot in the North American market. Bellator continues to operate with guile in the prospect market, signing a number of our own ranked Scouting Report fighters and other notable rookies to the big leagues to fill their ranks for upcoming seasons. Many fans feel that the promotion still has the legs to survive despite a perceived downward trend on their balance sheets due to the perception that if they are signing great talents -- everything must be hunky-dory.

Unfortunately, many industry insiders believe Bjorn Rebney and company may not be in the best financial position. From a number of people I've talked to that deal in the business side of the sport, Bellator is likely either breaking even or losing money on a per show basis. It's speculative whether MTV2 is picking up all of the production costs, but when analyzing live gate numbers and the reported payouts this season -- some insiders believe Bellator is sinking.

The ratings haven't been a complete failure however. Bellator is averaging above what the time slot would typically earn. Whether or not that is enough to sustain a home on MTV2 is another question. I'm under the assumption that the network doesn't provide enough exposure for Bellator to rake in major profits. MTV2 should have no problems fulfilling their end of the bargain, but Bellator may be a ship that can't make it to its destination port over the course of the three-year deal.

Where does the future lie for Bellator? In my mind, there are two options: A buyout or an eventual move to a bigger network. Interestingly enough, the UFC and Spike TV's ongoing struggle to affect the price of a contract renewal may end up leaving a spot open on an already-established home for mixed martial arts in North America. I know fans aren't ignorant enough to believe Joe Warren was showing up on TNA broadcasts on Spike TV to promote Bellator for nothing. It's a strategy, and a possible look into the future for Bellator.

Star-divide

There are a number of big fish in the sea of TV contracts that may entice the UFC to make a change in the coming year. FOX has shown interest in utilizing a number of their networks to air MMA content. If the NFL lockout takes a turn for the worst and becomes a lengthy struggle between the players' association and the NFL itself, MMA could gain unprecedented interest from network television companies.

The same could be said for the looming NBA lockout next season, which from what I've heard from many industry insiders.. has a strong possibility of subtracting games from the schedule. TNT and TBS have shown interest in airing MMA content as well, and let's not forget NBC/Comcast, a giant that the UFC is already in bed with due to their deal with Versus (becoming NBC Sports).

Spike TV has indicated that it would like a live weekly show in the past, something that Bellator already offers. If the UFC heads for greener pastures, it isn't unfathomable that Viacom shifts the Bellator product from MTV2 to Spike TV to fill the void left. The established audience should give Bellator a bump in ratings, although the more keen fans will understand the difference between the UFC and Bellator. I doubt it would be sustainable for a lengthy period of time, but I imagine Spike TV could help build Bellator's brand better than they are doing right now. 

If the UFC happens to maintain their relationship with Spike TV, Bellator may be looking at a different scenario. The promotion's contracts are their most valuable asset, and they are some of the most restrictive contracts in the sport. If the UFC continues to eye weekly shows and the best fighters on the planet, there are a number of fighters under Bellator's banner who fit into that category. It may be the perfect opportunity for Bellator to ask for a premium price for those contracts and their expansive video library, allowing Rebney to exit the sport with a substantial profit. In essence, it would be a successful investment for Rebney and his shareholders despite running what I believe to be a sinking ship.

The rest of this year should be interesting for Bellator. In an indirect way, the UFC controls the future of Bellator to an extent. They will likely have some enticing offers on the table from rival networks, but will they allow Viacom to push a brand like Bellator in their absence? Is the UFC so valuable that Spike TV would be willing to cut another network into the content stream? Will we see a time when Spike TV airs The Ultimate Fighter, Unleashed shows, a few live shows per year while Versus airs some live shows, and another major network is cut into the same type of deal? It may be likely if the UFC intends to keep their competitors out of the spotlight.

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According to MMA Payout's Jesse Cardoza

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Some folks are telling me that they expect that unless the UFC gets a huge contract from Spike, they are most likely leaving. Others are telling me that they are leaving no matter what.

If the UFC is leaving Viacom for Fox/Comcast or at a long shot Disney Bellator is a ready made replacement. However with Plainfield’s situation Bellator may not be around long term.

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by MattParker117 on May 11, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry Jose Mendoza

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by MattParker117 on May 11, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bellator defiantly could go fill in for UFC if they leave Spike. The thing is though UFC made the UFC not Spike Spike distributed UFC’s wears but the UFC made it.

I just wish UFC would get off Spike I don’t watch Spike other than for the UFC same with Bellator

I wonder which would do better ratings Bellator or TNA

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by MaZZacare on May 11, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know guys...

The UFC gets a huge amount of mileage out of spike, driving fighter interest with some likely lucrative ad and tv deals. I don’t seem them replicating that sort of deal on a network.

Nor do I think Bellator could step up to come close to filling that void, even if they could sidestep a MTV2 contract that they only recently signed.

by Stiff Jab on May 11, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the major downfall would be control of production on a major network. Maybe a shift to another network that is as small with potential to grow… maybe NBC Sports.

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by Leland Roling on May 11, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Versus is NBC’s de facto cable sports channel (okay technically it’s directly owned by Comcast where NBC Universal is only 51% owned by Comcast but whatev). And Versus may still have room to grow but they are a long way off. Maybe it’s smart for the UFC to keep doing some B-shows on Versus so they can hedge their bets, but they should be doing shows on a more major outlet too if possible. They need the advertising they get from Ultimate Fight Nights, other free cards, and the Ultimate Fighter, and they need to have that hit as wide an audience as possible. Spike is easily a better outlet than Versus in that regard. However, if they got a decent offer from ESPN, FX, or if the Gods of Fight willed it, a major broadcast network, and if they were able to retain production control, then they should jump at such a deal, even for the same money as Spike. It’d bring in more fans, help their long-term growth, and drive up their PPV revenue.

by Chromium on May 11, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s already been announced that Versus will be rebranded soon… and rumors are that it’ll be rebranded to NBC Sports.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Versus is becoming NBC Sports, so yes… it is their cable sports channel.

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by Leland Roling on May 11, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

And sidestepping the deal could happen, MTV2 is, after all, under the Viacom umbrella.

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by Leland Roling on May 11, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Bellator ends up going to Spike to replace the UFC there, you can be sure that the UFC will instantly start counter-programming every Bellator show, making sure to drive it into the ground within months, and resulting in a UFC buyout for peanuts.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said it was optimal. In fact, I don’t think Bellator has much of a chance of sustainability.

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by Leland Roling on May 11, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. The minute Bellator starts picking up steam, they’ll get the UFC’s full attention and be counter-programmed to death.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Bellator manages to get on Spike TV then their long term sustainability will be a lot better than it is right now. Right now they are bleeding money.

by Chromium on May 11, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The UFC already moved up their PPV broadcasts an hour (along with their prelims) and are running on Facebook too. They are already counter-programming them. Frankly I think they are doing a pretty good job on that front.

Also, even on Spike they have not had the ability to re-run major PPVs for free every week. They only did that against things like Affliction PPVs and major StrikeForce shows and such. They will have even less flexibility to do that on a network where they aren’t the backbone, like they are on Spike TV. Finally I don’t think this will have as big an impact as you might think, certainly not enough to sink Bellator within “months” if they head to Spike TV.

by Chromium on May 11, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If UFC buys Bellator I forsee a triple-tier system

PPVs are “UFC”
Free on basic cable shows featuring known names who are on a losing streak or relatively unmarketable, or the hotter prospects are “UFC Presents: Strikeforce”
Weekly shows featuring almost unknown guys in a tournament format are “UFC Presents: Bellator”

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by some schmuck in texas on May 11, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

That actually sounds pretty good.

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by dgonz on May 11, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

UFC Network

We need a UFC-dedicated channel, that’s what we need. Each major league has its own channel, the UFC should have the same. There’s plenty of footage and personalities to have stuff shown 24/7, they could show all the free fight cards, TUF, the primetime shows, etc, etc. Maybe stay in bed with Comcast to have 3-4 major shows on NBC per year, but other than that, replace Spike with their own channel.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

They need more than that

I think a UFC Network will be needed if they leave Spike because I dont think any other channel will offer the promotion that Spike did with Unleashed, TUF, Countdown, Primetime, etc.. but just like every other sport that has it’s own network that cant be the end all.

The NFL has FOX, CBS, NBC, and ESPN. The NBA has ABC, ESPN, and TNT. MLB has FOX, ESPN, and TBS. the NHL has Versus and NBC.

I think the best case scenario if they are set on leaving Spike is a UFC Network but also a network/cable package deal(FOX/FX, ABC/ESPN, NBC/Versus)

by bigdmmafan on May 11, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but all those other sports have like 1000 games to broadcast per season, it’s easy to share those games between 4-5-6 major networks… the UFC would have 52 fight nights (at the very most) plus a couple of TUF seasons per year… all of that could fit on one channel.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but the problem is by doing a UFC Channel you only really going to attract the people already into mma. The reason that why an ESPN or FOX or TNT is so important because you have the chance to get new viewers attracted to the sport.

by bigdmmafan on May 11, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure… which is why I said they could put a few shows a year on NBC or Versus (NBC Sports).

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes! A third-tier cable channel a la the NFL or NBA Network that only die-hards buy for a far more niche sport is exactly what a PPV-driven company needs! Plus, you know, with a few shows a year on NBC or Versus (and NBC and Versus totally equivalent to each other in terms of rating), for advertising, it totally fits into the equation and isn’t at all some huge money pit! Because the UFC is totally the same thing as a team sport where only certain parts of the country might have all the games for your favorite team otherwise.

No, just no, they do not need their own god damn channel. Even the WWE with a far, far larger library and more weekly programming only has an On-Demand channel and doesn’t run live events on their’s.

by Chromium on May 11, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

If I don’t get excited about one more premium channel being billed on my cable bill.

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by Worldisart on May 11, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d gladly pay $10 a month for an all-UFC channel.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure they have that much.

Say they’ve got 2000 fights in their library (PRIDE/WEC/UFC/Strikeforce). I’m pulling this number out of my ass, but it’s a nice round number that makes sense in my head. If all of those fights run the full 25 minutes (let’s say they’re all championship fights that go to decisions), they’ve got a total of 50,000 minutes of fight footage, which works out to about 34 continuous days of programming.

34 days of solid programming before you start repeat, and that’s not counting the (a) “boring” fights they wouldn’t want to show, (b) anything that isn’t a 25-minute decision, © fights they can’t/won’t show for any other reason.

For a 24/7 channel, that’s really not a lot.

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

For comparison.

The NHL gets at least 102 days of new footage each season (30 teams x 82 games per team x 60 minutes per game = 147,600 minutes), not counting playoffs.

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I just thought about it for more than two seconds.

I totally lowballed the number of fights the UFC has. They’ve probably got a good deal more than that, but my point stands – they’re not adding new footage at a high enough rate to make up for how little they have (compared to the other sports).

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

They wouldn’t necessarily only need old footage. A UFC channel would allow them the time slots to create new series. Not necessarily TUF type of shows, but I would actually like to see a weekly show that features newly signed prospects and the lesser known talent on their roster. It would give the fans more exposure to these fighters, which would help drive PPV sales when they start getting featured on main cards.

by IamMachine22 on May 11, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

But how many hours do you think that's worth in a day?

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at what goes on the NFL Network or NHL Network all day long… lots of analysis, recaps, bits about history, player profiles, etc. All of that would work with UFC, too.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the individual production companies that would pitch shows to them.

by IamMachine22 on May 11, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goes back to the footage and history.

There’s a lot more stuff to analyze, recap, profile, and history-cize in the NHL and NFL than there is in the UFC. The UFC has 20 years of monthly events. The NHL and NFL have a hundred years of weekly or even daily ones.

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure… but look at Spike TV, there’s already a good 4-5 hours per day of UFC stuff. How big of a stretch would it be to have 4 hours of UFC Unleashed shows every day, then 4 hours of primetime shows/other promotional shows, 4 hours a day of news/analysis with fighters coming in, 4 hours a day of Best of Pride/WEC/EliteXC/UFC/Strikeforce/etc. shows, 3 hours a day to replay a whole event, 3 hours of original content every day (Forrest’s post-appocalypse world, etc.). That’s already 22 hours. Put in 2 hours of infomercials about gym equipment with Bas in the middle of the night and you’ve got your 24 hours.

I think we’re ready for something like this.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot about TUF… they could have a TUF season pretty much all the time, with a few replays of the shows spread around during the week. That’s another hour or two per day. And they could replay old seasons once in a while, TUF marathons.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

TUF ratings are declining/leveling off now as it is, and it's free.

At least last I checked.

Would everyone be interested in constant TUF shows?

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that’s in part because Spike wants the lower ratings to be happening. The UFC could take better care of its TUF show.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I consider “Best of…” and “UFC Unleashed” to be nearly the same thing.

And again, sure – you could fill 24 hours a day for a while like this. But how long before it catches up to you and you run out of “new” things to show?

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could broadcast competitions like NCAA wrestling, judo competitions, ADCC, etc. That’s the kind of stuff that would interest many of their viewers.

And they could easily have 3-4 hours of live show every day to take about the latest news, have guests (fighters, managers, etc.).

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

For sure.

But again, the rate of consumption outstrips the rate of production here by a good deal.

Realistically, though, how many people would watch the non-MMA competition stuff? It would be interesting to me, you, and most of the BE crew, but how about the masses?

Wow, that last statement made me sound like an asshole.

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Produce a rip-off of Bully Beatdown, buy the Jason Ellis show, and have Arianny run around on a beach for a 30 minute a week show. There ya go.

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by Leland Roling on May 11, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do that and you’ve got a subscriber right here!

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make the Arianny show longer, and mute it. Then you got me.

by IamMachine22 on May 11, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

All great idea, heh.

Leland, what’s your take on a UFC channel?

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard it mentioned before. It might be an eventual reality, but I don’t know. It could work I suppose.

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by Leland Roling on May 11, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It might be a bit early, but if Dana’s (Zuffa’s) plans to have a live show every week ever happens, I think that will be the time to come out with a UFC channel.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

The MLB Network, NHL Network and NFL Network don’t do that. They have the occasional game, and that’s how the UFC would do it. They’d have network deals, ideally, and occasionally, they’d host an event “LIVE ON THE UFC CHANNEL!” to promote the channel.

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by James Brady on May 11, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the UFC is nowhere near having a weekly 2 hour live event on a major network… There is no major network that will put a weekly MMA show, there’s always another sport more popular to display.

And the only difference between the current setup with what I’m proposing is that instead of using Spike as their own little channel, they create their own channel. Spike already is pretty much UFC what the UFC channel would be, except with less CSI and Manswers, and more UFC content.

by Shnak on May 12, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

They will get less eyes on their own network right now.

I’m talking low, low, low numbers. People don’t take to new networks like that, especially because it will be premium.

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by James Brady on May 12, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. I don’t see how putting UFC content on a UFC channel instead of on Spike would affect ratings that much… it’s not like Spike is well-known for quality programming with high-ratings shows that could lead-in UFC content properly. Spike is a horrible channel that nobody would watch if the UFC wasn’t there… And as I said before, Spike costs me around $1-$2 right now, I’d dump it in favor of a UFC channel at $5-$6 without even hesitating.

by Shnak on May 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Realistically not much...

But that’s just one idea from one person. Imagine the connections ZUFFA has. They could easily find a consulting firm to throw 100 ideas at them, then they could pick out a bunch, create pilots, and then test them in the market before actually releasing them. They have the means, they just need the drive.

by IamMachine22 on May 11, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but that’s why I also said they have personalities around which they could build shows… reality shows, shows about technique, whatever.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

See above.

How many hours do you think that’s worth?

Not to mention how much more they’d have to be paying these fighters/personalities to do these shows. I’m not saying I wouldn’t want a 24/7 UFC channel, I just don’t know how feasible it is because the sport’s kinda limited so far.

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The UFC is backed by two billionaires. Don’t count out an idea solely based on monetary issues, they can usually be overcome.

by IamMachine22 on May 11, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're billionaires for a reason.

And it’s mostly not UFC-related, as far as I can tell.

Sure they can probably afford to pay people, I dunno, double what they pay now in order to give them a TV show. But would it be worth it?

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t give an honest answer on if it would be worth it, but I just meant to point out that the money is available. Not necessarily from just the Fertita brothers, but from all the potential investors they know. Rich people know other rich people. Not to mention the funding they could get from Flash Entertainment.

by IamMachine22 on May 11, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea i dont know if theres enough footage to make that a possibility yet

even with all thee ufc, pride, elite xc and strikeforce footage they own

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by milk72 on May 11, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

There've been 130 numbered UFC events.

Let’s say 12 fights per event, so that’s 1560 fights. They’ve got a great deal more than I’d said originally, but still, it’s a limited number even when you add in the UFNs, PRIDE, etc.

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by alicks on May 11, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially when you remember the nfl networks struggles for content

and they have decades of games and hours upon hours of footage

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by milk72 on May 11, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The NFL Network does not struggle for content.

They’ve exceeded their projected growth in each of the last three years and have successful shows with regularity. Replaying things doesn’t mean they’re struggling.

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by James Brady on May 11, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least double that number when you include Pride/Strikeforce/EliteXC/Affliction and whatever else they own. They don’t need to run these fights straight for 24/7… they can use them for compilations, do best of Fedor shows, best of Nog shows, best of Couture shows, best of GSP shows. They can re-use these fights a thousand different ways.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

ufc should have ufc on major networks and have ufc branded strikeforce have a home on spike.

by hewsdaddy on May 11, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

i'd really be stunned if the UFC stays with spike

their already working on their relationship with both cbs and nbc and i think one of those networks is the eventual home

when is the deal up btw? and by what date will the UFC have a new deal signed?

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by milk72 on May 11, 2011 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

End of the year, next six months

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by MattParker117 on May 11, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spike dies without the UFC

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by Damon O. on May 11, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

No kidding. The UFC content is the only reason I picked Spike as one of my channels.

by Shnak on May 11, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

cuz Spike sucks.

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Don't forget their crown jewel

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by ElliotMatheny on May 11, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit is by far the best thing on that list

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by Damon O. on May 11, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I've noticed alot of TUF ads on MTV2 recently...

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by RolloTomasi on May 11, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Leland, I’ve also wondered if Zuffa’s purchase of Strikeforce had anything to do with their negotiations with Spike. A property like Strikeforce would have been much more enticing to Spike.And the thought that could walk in and introduce themselves to a large audience preprogrammed to watch MMA on Spike would have instantly brought up images of the WWE circa 2005.

by John Nash on May 11, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Why is Bellator holding fights in tiny venues? I would think they could easily sell out stuff in the 4,000 – 5,000 seat range, like the arenas where minor league hockey teams play. When they had that one card out in a field somewhere in the heat and there were like 100 people there I found it kind of depressing.

by Scabby Knuckle on May 11, 2011 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL.

Bellator couldn’t sell out a high school gym.

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by Forrest Lynn on May 12, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not even sure I would attend one of their events if they held it in my backyard… and we’ve already seen them hold events in people’s backyards…

by Shnak on May 12, 2011 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not knocking Rebney or Bellator

but I just get this feeling that he’s been angling a UFC buyout from the beginning. He seems like a decent fellow, but not in MMA for the long hall…could just be me.

If (and this a HUGE speculative if) Zuffa bought out Bellator, they could effectively make a “minor” league out of Strikeforce/Bellator and its not like Bellator has a ton of contracts to absorb. It would make Sean Shelby’s job a bit more enjoyable, too.

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by tigerlee on May 12, 2011 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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