UFC 129: A unique perspecitve on St-Pierre's performance
Georges St-Pierre successfully defended his UFC welterweight title against Jake Shields but failed to finish the challenger. His performance left many unhappy, as GSP was content to fight safe while taking more damage than he has in years.
Much of the damage was the result of a right hand thrown by Shields that landed on the champion's left eye. It was plainly obvious that this really bothered St-Pierre for the rest of the fight. In his post-fight interview with Joe Rogan, the champion stated that his vision was blurry and he could not see out of his left eye.
Count me among those who were left wanting after the fight. Until I was reminded by my wife, "Don't be so harsh. You have no idea what it must be like to function with one eye."
Of course my wife is the queen of sarcasm. Few know better than I what it is like to function with just one eye.
When I was 6 years old, I was scratched in the eye by a cat. I was very fortunate that the doctors were even able to save my eye, but it required major surgery rendering the eye nearly useless. The lens was removed and the retina had to be reattached.With my good eye closed, shapes and colors are still visible. But once I open the good eye, my brain shuts down the less functional left, only using images from the right.
I am now 30 years old and this injury has not stopped me from doing many things in life. It only required that I make minor adjustments. Growing up I wrestled and played soccer and baseball. While soccer and wrestling came easily, baseball forced me to change my batting stance and to listen to advice from my teammates on ball placement, due to a lack of depth perception. Still, relatively small tweaks and I was able to be successful in that sport, too.
It wasn’t until I took a couple boxing classes that I really felt at a disadvantage. Being right handed, I utilize an orthodox stance. My opponent just needs move to his right and he becomes virtually invisible to me.
In much the same way, if GSP couldn’t see out of his left eye, Jake Shields became invisible as he moved to the right. Often throughout the fight, St-Pierre was switching his stance from orthodox to southpaw. This could have been a strategy to keep the challenger guessing, but also could have been the champion ensuring that he was able to see Shields.
When GSP reached the corner after eating the right to the eye from Jake Shields, even Greg Jackson was having trouble calming the champ's concerns over his eye (UPDATE: It appears that GSP was actually poked in the eye by and open hand shot from Shields as opposed to getting punched). Though over 24 years ago, I still vividly remember the day that my scratch happened. The panic and the pain. It is unlike other injuries because you know that it might be permanent. There is no question that this affected GSP mentally for the rest of the fight.
I do believe that GSP would have finished this fight and really opened up on the challenger in the championship rounds. I suspect that was part of the game plan. But fighting with one eye and with the panic stemming from not knowing the permenance of the injury forced St- Pierre to stick to a safer course.
Try this: Get into a boxing stance and close your lead eye. Now, have a friend move toward that side. Can’t see them right? Now, imagine this person is trying to punch you. That is what GSP was dealing with in this fight. Throw in the panic of uncertainty and the champion’s performance becomes understandable.
Fortunately, George St-Pierre’s injury is probably just a corneal abrasion which, with care, will heal within a few days. I expect this will make GSP even stronger.
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seeing the fight in a whole new light. At first I thought he was using it as an excuse, but you can clearly see a shift between the 2nd and 3rd rounds when the punch happened. George was dominating the first two rounds, so there was no reason for him to make up an injury. Plus, you could tell in the opening rounds how relaxed he was; he was loosening up, trying new things. Had the eye issue not occured, I could imagine GSP opening up in the later rounds. I completely understand how something as small as an eye graze could frustrate a fighter who was so looking forward to putting on a spectacular show in front of his home country.
What are the rules re: stopping a fight if a fighter cant see out of an eye?
I remember being surprised when the Fedor fight was stopped due to the swelling considering, as the hominick fight showed, swelling in and of itself doesnt cause fights to be stopped. I cant remember which of the commentators it was that said if Fedor can’t see out of his eye then the fight must be stopped. I assumed this was because it puts the fighter at an unreasonable risk of inury as their vision is impaired. So that became my understanding…..cant see out of an eye = fight over.
So when I heard GSP say he can’t see out of his left eye I flipped out as I thought the fight was over. He clearly couldnt see out of it and kept saying as much yet it wasnt until the end of the fight the doctors checked him out.
Can anybody clarify the rule for me and should the fight have been stopped given everybody knew he couldnt see out of his left eye for the last 2 rounds.
The fight could’ve been stopped if the cageside doctor had gotten wind of it. Generally though they’ll only check on a fighter if there’s a visible reason to do so, such as a cut bleeding into the eye, massive swelling, etc. In this case, the doctors wouldn’t have had any reason to check on GSP; the only people who knew about the eye injury were Georges, his corner, and the viewing audience, but the doctor at ringside would have been oblivious that there was any issue.
by MS_Dos_Santos on May 1, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Bizarre that everybody, inlcuding the entire viewing public, commentators….etc knew about it yet the doctors themselves didn’t, the people who actually needed to know, didnt. Pretty lucky for GSP that the doc(s) werent paying any attention to his corner or listening to the broadcast. Probably just sitting ringside playing angry birds til somebody calls them over!!
Agreed
I fought muay thai as both an amateur and professional. In one of my matches, I got poked in the eye. I panicked as suddenly all my jabs, hooks, leg kicks are missing by a mile. I am missing my opponent so badly that 90% of the time im hitting air.
People should experience an eye injury in combat sports before blasting GSP.
That said, the main event made most of my new MMA converts feel cheated. “is that your ww champ?” argh
by shogunism on May 1, 2011 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Good post
Your depth perception goes off a lot more than you’d think after losing most sight in one eye.
I agree.
GSP likes to soften up his opponents before he fights them where they are at their strongest. Props to Jake for tagging GSP in the eye, but the fact that Jake was fighting a one eyed GSP made them appear closer to the same level than the first round (2 eyes) clearly showed they weren’t. I hope GSP learns from this fight and realizes that his killer instinct is an asset, rather than a liability. Firas is a great coach, but he is so focused on perfect technique, that he forgets that the raw power and relentless aggression GSP liked to use was his best defense, because his opponents were too busy defending to ever mount an offense.
Thanks for your perspective...
I guess I can imagine how scary that would be, and given that it’s hard to blame GSP for his tentative striking in rounds 4 and 5.
What disappoints me is that he didn’t look much different in rounds 1 and 2. Additionally, I feel like taking Shields down and playing the grappling game would have negated some of that disadvantage and prevented more damage to GSP’s eye. I was sad GSP didn’t want to take that risk when he might’ve had a better chance of finishing Jake and preventing additional harm to his eye.
Eye injuries, perspective. I see what you did there.
….I also see what I did there
by Balrog on May 1, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Interesting.
It’s good to get a perspective from someone who has had to deal with something similar as the subject in question. I think those who are using last night’s fight as some sort of proof that GSP isn’t in the same league as Anderson Silva are totally off.
Now I feel bad for the whole Washing Machine post...thank you evry much for making me feel like a petty twat.
Now, on a serious note: thanks for sharing the info. I remember I was put on an eyepatch once when I was like fourteen years old to fix something in my left eye and so they put it on top of the right one. It was fucking hell. Your balance goes out the window, your depth perception goes too, and I can only imagine what being infront of fifty five thousand people while another guy is hellbent of fucking you up would be like.
Man, that blows. I just watched an interview with Greg Jackson where he said the injury was ‘severe’. I hope the dude does get better.
GSP wasn't exactly lighting him up in the first two rounds
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/04/ufc-middleweight-champion-silva-like-water.html
He was clearly getting the better of Shields.
Landing the harder, cleaner shots, and stuffing all his takedowns.
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by ElliotMatheny on May 1, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Cant dispute that he looked better than the last half of the fight
But I wouldn’t say he looked, “dominant” or even “good”. Comparing him to Shields isn’t fair, Shields didn’t look like he belonged in the UFC let alone a title fight. I know (from UFC’s marketing department, and more hardcore fans) that Shields is supposed to be really good at grappling. But I saw nothing from Shields at all. Not a thing
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/04/ufc-middleweight-champion-silva-like-water.html
GSP landed better strikes standing than Robbie Lawler did against Shields. Aside from the 1’st round H- Bomb, GSP did better than Hendo. He did better from range than Kampmann.
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by ElliotMatheny on May 1, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Mostly because Kampmann didn’t stay at range i believe.
by DreamingOfFighting on May 2, 2011 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
Martin was too content to clinch. Granted, he dusted Shields with clinch knees, and I thought he won the fight, but judges like takedowns and top control, even if it doesn’t lead to any damage.
I’m all about damage, it’s the only important factor in any fight IMO. Control is an acceptable tiebreaker if no fighter clearly did more damage with strikes, slams, and in certain cases- near submissions.
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by ElliotMatheny on May 2, 2011 4:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Good article.
What I noticed was the blatant panic from GSP, from the rather pointless takedown that seemed to be out of panic right after the injury occured, to his demeanour coming back into the corner, and the way he spoke to Rogan afterwards. He obviously didn’t want to be in there at that point and basically just gutted those last three rounds out. I personally had an issue with my left eye a couple of weeks back and can attest to the panic that it puts you in when you realize you can’t see properly. Hopefully GSP’s injury heals quickly.
Really enjoyed the 1'st hand account.
People who lambast GSP for looking bad in the latter half of the fight are daft. The guy couldn’t fucking see out of one eye. You explained better than I ever could how detrimental that is for a fighter.
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Shields should be UFC champ right now
by defeating GSP via TKO (injury) in the third.
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by pdl on May 1, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It is odd,
when he said he couldn’t see out of the eye I was seriously worried they would stop the fight. They always stop the fight from a cut if the blood keeps getting into the fighter’s eye.
That said, I am really really glad that Shields didn’t win the championship despite getting whooped in his only 2 UFC fights.
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by ElliotMatheny on May 1, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, if the doctor found out,
Shields would’ve been UFC champ by now.
by Anton Tabuena on May 1, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
“Should” is an awful word. If something “should” be, then it would be, but it’s not and Shields isn’t champion.
Why? Well because some things are and some things are not. Why? Well because things that are not can't be. Why? Because than nothing wouldn't be. You can't have nothing isn't. Everything is!
by InfamousProfessorPlum on May 1, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
About time I read an article on here that isn’t criticizing Georges. You’re eyes are so damn sensitive and important that, without any training, using one eye when you’re not ready to is extremely difficult and scary. This is exactly what GSP went though.
Think about this though. At his worst and with one eye working, Georges still beat Jake Shields, a guy who beat Okami, Condit, Lawler, Daley, Mayhem, Kampmann and Hendo (taking him down at will). At his worst, GSP beat arguably the second best welterweight in the world. There’s something in that statement alone.
Why? Well because some things are and some things are not. Why? Well because things that are not can't be. Why? Because than nothing wouldn't be. You can't have nothing isn't. Everything is!
by InfamousProfessorPlum on May 1, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
Yup, it was the cut's fault!

Great fight that Pac/Morales I.

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I am greatful we dont have to justify whenever these guys fought.


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But I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose. - Kwisatz Haderach
Maybe I need to rewatch the fight but...
…I thought he looked unusually tentative even before the eyepoke/scratch.
He looked less tentative than usual to me
I’ve never seen him throw haymakers like that before which leave himself wide open. Same with the little dance he did on the feet. Lots of power kicks, too, which he usually uses more selectively to avoid getting exposed for a counter or takedown.
I think the overhand rights were his undoing, though, as he abandoned his other power strikes. I’m guessing he thought the because Hendo got one through, then his could get through as well. Shields learned his lesson, though.
by paythefighters on May 2, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Point Regarding the OHR...
…it did look like he was trying to pull a Hendo. Most of those overhand punches were poorly set-up IMO. He did connect with a few that hurt shields—but mostly wild.
Btw...
…I’ve never hated a GSP fight before this last one. A lot of people complain about his careful approach but I’ve loved all the fights I’ve seen excpet this one—I almost wanted him to lose the belt for such a sucky fight. Indeed, fighting with one eye could explain a lot however.
Stopped
Really, the fight should’ve been stopped by the physician. If you can’t see out of an eye, the fight is to be stopped. Can you image if Shields had become the title holder because of a freaking eye poke? Can you imagine having Shields as the title holder with that performance?!
Could you imagine the rematch between GSP and Shields for the title?
Seriously, that’d probably be GSP’s next finish.
this is just a great post
thank you for this insight.
although, i’m not sure why we needed someone to tell us some of this stuff. apparently we did.

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