Anderson Silva vs. Yushin Okami Targeted for UFC: Rio in August
by Nick Thomas on Apr 9, 2011 4:01 PM EDT
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The UFC had allowed fans to get pretty worked up about a potential super-fight between middleweight champion Anderson Silva and welterweight champ Georges St. Pierre after Silva beat Vitor Belfort at UFC 126. Since then the promotion has apparently backed off, with GSP being quite vocal about his hesitance to make the jump. Now word is coming from Silva's camp that Yushin Okami may finally be getting his shot at UFC: Rio: (via Tatame.com)
According to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, former UFC heavyweight champion and his training partner, Silva will fight Yushin Okami, the last opponent to defeat him (by DQ at Rumble on the Rock 8, in 2006), trying to set a new record of nine straight title defenses in the UFC. The return of the organization to Brazil will take place at Rio de Janeiro’s HSBC Arena, on August 27.Aug 27th, live on Pay-per-view from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil:
Anderson "The Spider" Silva (28-4) [Num. 1]
Win Vitor Belfort - KO (Front Kick and Punches) UFC 126
Win Chael Sonnen - Submission (Triangle Armbar) UFC 117
Win Demian Maia - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 112
Yushin "Thunder" Okami (26-5) [Num. 2]Yushin Okami vows to beat Anderson Silva and become UFC Champion:
Win Nate Marquardt - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 122
Win Mark Munoz - Decision (Split) UFC Versus 2
Win Lucio Linhares - TKO (Doctor Stoppage) UFC FN 21
"I want to fight Anderson, beat him, and I believe I’ll become a new star in the UFC. I’m concentrating and training for that fight now. ... Anderson is the top of the middleweight division and I am coming for the belt. I promise you’ll see him fall and I’ll be the new champion."
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Well....
Good luck Yushin. You’re gonna need it.
Yeah,
anyone who’s seen their first fight, and has seen how they’ve changed since knows that Anderson should be a considerable favorite.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
okami next up to be embarrassed!
Silva remembers okami beat him by giving up after an up kick that knocked yushin the fuck out! Silva will definetly erase that loss on his record for sure in Brasil. Good luck Yushin, I feel bad for you!
It don't matter where you came from, its where your going!!!
Booooo
Who honestly wants to see this fight? I’m saying it now, a tentative Yushin Okami will bring out the annoyed Silva who will dance around for 3 rounds and secure a very unsatisfying victory.
I assume the type of people who want to watch this fight, are the type of people that like seeing skilled, high-level fighters...
…fight each other. Duh. Been a long time coming.
by bigstupidsmile on Apr 9, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
What are the other options?
We wait out the GSP fight that may or may not happen and if it does happen we are most likely wont happen until early 2012?
I say
GSP starts packing on size if he beats Shields, and bulks up enough so that he’s big enough for a catchweight or middleweight bout.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Been waiting for a couple of years to see this fight.
I’m excited.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Apr 9, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hashmo
Really? so after Anderson knocks Vitor out with a front kick. Has dominated fighters in his division as well as lhw you are still bitching and moaning about fights that are irrelevant. grow up or step in the ring with silva and talk shit
YUS! Okami is finally getting his shot
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
Thrilling.
Many thanks to GSP and his league of defenders. The last thing I would want to see is a once in a lifetime match-up between two all time greats that would be the most competitive fight on the horizon for either guy. Let’s watch Yushin get his head punted off instead! Hip hip hooray!
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
What, it absolutely has to happen this year?
GSP needs time to adjust to 185 if he goes fulltime MW.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
Nah, it should happen when Anderson's 40.
I’m sure it’ll be a compelling, competitive fight then.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do it in 2012
Dec 21st. Jones vs. Davis (Davis improves) and Silva vs. GSP in a supercard just before the Mayans say “told ya so”.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
It's been pushed back enough as is.
But remember, we get the fights we want to see in MMA, just a few years after the sell by date (looking at you Liddell/Silva)
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey! We got it didn't we? And it was a hell of a fight.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
Don't get me wrong
I’ve gone back-and-forth on this and I’ve decided that we might as well see the superfight. But to have GSP just cold fight Anderson Silva in his first fight moving up doesn’t seem like a good idea.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
by SSreporters on Apr 9, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks.
But to have GSP just cold fight Anderson Silva in his first fight moving up doesn’t seem like a good idea.
This is such an obvious statement that most fans don’t get. We don’t know if GSP can beat Bisping at 185. People weren’t calling Pacquiao vs. Mayweather a must see fight until he had actually fought and won multiple times at the appropriate weight. What is the compulsive need to force GSP to a weight he’s never fought at against a guy who simply does not lose at that weight?
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by pdl on Apr 9, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
If GSP moved up in weight after Shields, not even to fight Andy
I’d be happy. It would at least be a step in the right direction instead of the endless delaying that’s gone on thus far.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
How in the hell is it delaying?
He’s the UFC welterweight champion of the world, and maybe he’s happy with that.
Ohhhhhhh CANADA - Georges St. Pierre, right here is where he calls home, and smoking marijuana, we consider it legal.
by Austin Wilson on Apr 9, 2011 8:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How has he delayed a potential fight with Anderson?
You can’t be serious.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
With something like this
Hey GSP, do you want to fight Anderson?
GSP-“I need to talk to my team about that.”
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But it's like he doesn't even want to make the move at all, pdl
I'M AT THE PIZZA HUT. I'M AT THE TACO BELL. I'M AT THAT COMBINATION PIZZA HUT AND TACO BELL.
GSP is going to take at least 9 months of bulking up after the Shields fight, which he still has to win. This keeps Andy busy and able to fight in Rio. Sky = not falling
I should have satyed out of Cain’s strawberry patch.
by donkeypunch on Apr 9, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
GSP’s been talking about ‘putting on the weight properly’ for almost 2 years now. At some point it becomes meaningless.
Exactly.
I'M AT THE PIZZA HUT. I'M AT THE TACO BELL. I'M AT THAT COMBINATION PIZZA HUT AND TACO BELL.
I hate you.
I actually rapped that song in French class with a friend. That freaking song is stuck in my head.
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It's a classic
Saw them live last weekend
I'M AT THE PIZZA HUT. I'M AT THE TACO BELL. I'M AT THAT COMBINATION PIZZA HUT AND TACO BELL.
Oh yeah
Because GSP totally deserves alot of shit for being hesitant to jump to a new weight class and facing the dominant champion in his first fight there.
He draws my ire
for not being inclined to move up at all even though he has practically nobody left to fight after April 30. Can’t wait to be told how thrilled I should be about GSP/Fitch 2, 3, and 4 though.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The UFC will be determined not to make this fight happen ever again
No matter how tough Jon Fitch is, GSP would kick his ass.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
plus
GSP can’t keep facing the same people over and over, people are going to start complaining.
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
GSP would annihilate all of Strikeforce's WW division.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
There's not a single fighter in that division
With GSP’s skillset. Diaz has the best shot out of all of them.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
Not to mentrion that there’ is something like …3 fighters in that division?
".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."
by dancingChicken on Apr 9, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, and what happened in the rematch?
He got clipped and lost.
By that logic how would I know GSP wouldn’t streamroll Brock Larson?
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
No one knows.
I realize that GSP is the best WW ever, but assuming that GSP will never lose again in the WW division is ridiculous.
There are more fights I want to see at WW.
Like whom?
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
Alves 2 :/, Alves lost 5 of those rounds, it wasn’t even close. Also he got only one win over a low tier WW since. It’s hard to sell even to a fan of Alves and GSP like me. Story needs a win against someone “in the mix”.
Boys becoming men...Men becoming wolves
If Story beats Alves that's someone who is in the mix.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
Ellenberger is a good wrestler
GSP is much much much better.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
Ellenberger just got dominated and nearly submitted
in the first round against the unranked carlos eduardo rocha, and then barely hung on to win the next two round with last second takedowns.
How does he possibly do well against GSP?
by Scott Haber on Apr 9, 2011 8:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There are lots of fights I want to see...
but not all of them are competitive or make sense in terms of matchmaking, bro.
Never said it did, bro.
Original comment: “There are more fights I want to see at WW.”
But feel free to continue replying.
And this
is where you stop calling me bro.
by Scott Haber on Apr 11, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP Alves 2? GSP Penn 6… Condit Lol ? Nah, Shields is his last fight at WW, everything else is hardly marketable as a competitive fight, but they promoted Hardy vs GSP so you never know.
Boys becoming men...Men becoming wolves
Wasn’t Hardy his most dangerous opponent to date (at that time)? Man, that’s funny. I’m with Lowell, Andy isn’t getting any younger, the weight difference is much smaller than some ppl think.
At the same time, I don’t blame GSP one bit for staying safe or negotiating big money to fight Silva.
It’s clearly the fault of GSP’s “league of defenders”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 9, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was Kid Nate's fault.
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No, but they irritate the fuck out of me so I threw them in there too.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Takes almost no damage in any fights, wins dominant victories even when he can't stop an opponent,
Great ring IQ, controls range and pace, has beautiful technique, and is a damn good athlete?
I agree. GSP is a whole lot like Mayweather.
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by pdl on Apr 9, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
.....No. I think he covered everything.
Mayweather didn’t have to move up in weight to fight someone who could beat him.
GSP challenged himself. His 3rd career f-ing fight in the UFC was against Matt Hughes. His first one against Karo Parisyan!!!
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
um. it’s almost a 10% increase in weight to fight at 185. Not exactly the same thing as two boxing welterweights..
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 9, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you forgot: afraid to challenge himself and actually fight a guy who could beat him.
who anderson silva? lol
I guess those fights at LHW mean nothing
espcially against a former champion.
lmao yeah he really put it all on the line by fighting james irvin and forrest griffin, you know who else beat forrest griffin? Thats right keith jardine.
you do know James Irvin was the only one willing to take the fight against Anderson on short notice, right?
no one else from the LHW division that was free around that time wanted to take the Anderson fight. And say what you want about Forrest, but the dude has beaten some serious competition.
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
Regardless of the circumstances of how the fight took place it doesn’t make him seem like a more skilled fighter. I don’t like people using andersons fights at lhw to make him seem better than he is. I’ll give him all the respect in the world if he beat someone relevant at lhw.
Uh
you do realize Forrest was one fight removed from being the LHW champ when he fought Anderson right?
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Yeah,
Forrest was definitely relevant. Still considered top 5 IIRC. Anderson just matches up with him extremely well, and was able to goad Forrest into brawling (which is the worst possible strategy for him).
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
lol keep telling yourself that
I’m sorry but as for title contention Forrest is not relevant. He’s only relevant because he still has fans.
I’m not resting until I’m officially Anderson Silva status.- Jon "Bones" Jones
Keep telling himself what?
That Anderson matched up really well against him, or that Forrest was still considered in the top 5 at the time, because those are both patently correct points.
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Forrest has wins over two of the current Top 5 LHWs
Don’t sell him short
I'M AT THE PIZZA HUT. I'M AT THE TACO BELL. I'M AT THAT COMBINATION PIZZA HUT AND TACO BELL.
Let me get this straight...
a man who held the title, and had a dominant victory over the last champion isn’t relevant in the title picture? Despite 2 straight high profile name wins?
GTFO of here.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
well Shogun sucks, you know...
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
Rich Franklin is a bum too.
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by Earl Montclair on Apr 9, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
of course
and on top of that he’s a MW!
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
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and he did that movie dumb and dumber
dude cannot be taken serious!
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
Plus,
he got completely dominated by a much smaller man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwADL_f4DWA
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I love that scene
that movie brings me back memories of high school
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
Back in the day
when Jim Carrey wasn’t such a buzz kill.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
naw
I still enjoy his movies, Yes Man was pretty good.
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
It was decent,
and Eternal Sunshine was great.
Dick & Jane was horrible though, and I haven’t really LAUGHED at a Jim Carrey movie since Man on the Moon.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I skipped Dick & Jane, I heard it was pretty bad
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
That’s true, Shogun is a can. Fuck man, the more I think about it… there are no good fighters! Everyone sucks!
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
that's not true
Jones is good… for now…
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
Jones is god right now.
But everyone else sucks and has no chance at ever beating him.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
he shouldn't even bother with LHW anymore
and should just move up to HW, if he doesn’t challenge Cain for the belt than he’s just not trying to challenge himself.
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
He’s ducking the Klitscho bro’s IMO, he needs to test himself in straight boxing.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Franklin was champ when the division was thin check who he defended the title against, he may have had a couple good wins. Being champ is one thing but you can’t honestly go through silva’s list of challengers and say they are all legit contenders. Don’t bring up vitor because I don’t know how he even got a shot. As i said before half of silvas challengers have since been cut from the ufc.
Not true,
all of Silva’s title defenses have come against top 10 fighters, perhaps with the exception of Cote.
Okami deserved the title shots that Leites and Vitor both got, but both of them were also top 10 ranked MW’s at the time.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes I do, but do you think you may ever see him fighting for it again since hes a legit contender? Or do you think he was in the right place at the right time?
Right place at the right time?
C’mon son, no matter what the outside circumstances where a the time I doubt Stephen Bonnar could’ve jumped into Forrest’s place against Shogun and Rampage and been so successful.
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Ridiculous hating here
Forrest is still recognized as a top 10 LHW with legit wins over legit competition. That makes him pretty effing relevant in my book.
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
Relevant or not did you honestly believe he had a chance against silva? I thought it was a bs fight to be honest and griffin was the sacrificial lamb just for silva to showcase his striking.
having a chance and legitimacy to challenge are two very different things
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anyone can discredit any given fighters resumé
now, finding a fighter that has been undefeated for as long as Silva has, that has shown heart as much as Silva has, that has shown superiority as much as Silva has, well, there just aren’t that many around. Hate all you want, but at the end of the day Silva is and will go down in history as one of the biggest fighters of our era. now that’s just the truth.
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
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who cares
doesn’t change the fact that Fedor was the most dominant HW champ we ever had, this was before the Pride fall out. there will always be people questioning someone’s status of greatness, doesn’t change the fact that they are great. haters gonna hate…
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
Pacquiao should really go fight one of the Klitschko brothers
otherwise, he’s afraid to challenge himself and actually fight a guy who can beat him. What a WIMP!
Before a shitstorm starts...
This is better for a potential GSP superfight. GSP needs the time to bulk up, like he’s been saying for the past year. It works out perfectly with GSP fighting Shields at the end of the month, then he bulks, Anderson fights Okami in August, superfight at the end of the year.
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by ChiCubs23 on Apr 9, 2011 4:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This makes no sense. A fight at a catch-weight could have happened this year, and both parties seemed to be warming to that. Also, what happens if GSP bulks up to MW, but Silva loses? Putting GSP on the shelf for that long just to fight Okami would be pointless.
It makes plenty sense. I, for one, don’t want to see the fight at a catchweight. I want a belt on the line. I also want GSP moving up permanently, because its not like the WW’s in the UFC will suddenly start challenging him after the Silva fight at a hypothetical catchweight. So, GSP needs to move up. He needs to bulk up, like he has said in every single interview when asked about a Silva fight. Anderson has to fight Okami, as promised. The timing works well. GSP lifts weights while Anderson and Okami fight, then they announce the fight from there. You can’t shelve Silva or Okami while GSP bulks up.
In short:
-GSP needs to vacate WW permanently, for lack of a challenge
-GSP needs to bulk up, that takes time
-Anderson might as well fight in the meantime
-Just because we thought a superfight would happen after Belfort and Shields got their shots, doesn’t mean it was possible to put together so quickly.
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How about the fact that he’s been a #1 contender for a while and Anderson gets to fight in Brazil. Is that enough?
I should have satyed out of Cain’s strawberry patch.
meh
Contenders aren’t created equal.
I mean the UFC is shooting itself in the foot if they don’t make the fights people really want to see.
You get unbeatable champs facing the same guys over and over and people stop buying at some point.
The superfight would happen end of the year at the earliest. Why keep Andy on the shelf while GSP bulks up? Especially when there’s a show booked in Brazil.
I should have satyed out of Cain’s strawberry patch.
I don’t think GSP is ever going to bulk up.. not that the size difference is that big of a deal. Not to mention Silva said he’d do a catchweight.
Meh. I’m over it.
Dana talks a big game but he doesn’t put on the fights people really want to see anymore.
Other than....Brock vs. Carwin
Brock vs. Mir II
Brock vs. Cain
Penn vs. GSP II
All of UFC 108 Pre-Catastrophuck
Jones vs. Anyone
Yeah I’d say they don’t put up big fights anymore.
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The UFC as enough Brazilian headliners. Aldo-Mendez, with Vitor vs. TBA as a co-main, would have been more than enough for an international card. Who cares about Oami’s contendership? It’s not like he has been on some unstoppable roll.
He beat Marquardt for #1 contender
He should get the title shot.
Does anyone realize his only losses in the UFC are to Franklin and Sonnen?
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Okami won a no. 1 conterdership match
makes plenty of sense to me.
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Finally. Okami just caught a beating.
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by The One Who Wears The Crown on Apr 9, 2011 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
Sure, but one that he earned (not in the bad sense lol)
by Carlos Estrada-Ibars Martínez on Apr 9, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if the UFC will push the "Okami beat Anderson" angle
And 3 of Silva’s 4 losses are against Japanese fighters.
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The totally should.
Huge Japanese population in Brazil. Huge Brazilian population in Brazil.It has made zero sense to me why they delayed even hinting at this for so long.
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by pdl on Apr 9, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Even then the circumstances are different
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Context is appropriate
Hammil was being torn to shreds like… a cow being torn apart by a utahraptor. Then the 12-6ers got dropped and things got muddy.
Yushin was on top and got upkicked hell of hard.
Very different situations.
Awesome.
I’ve wanted to see this for a while. Another nice feather in Anderson’s cap should he win, and he doesn’t have to wait for GSP to bulk up + it lets Anderson headline the Rio card.
Good stuff.
Thank god.
This will finally shut up everybody who keeps crying over Okami getting a title shot.
Silva via 1st round TKO.
I think this has more to do with Silva's popularity in Brazil
rather than the hesitant talks GSP has been demonstrating as of late. Ever since Anderson knocked Belfort out he has been very popular in Brazil, it’s smart for the UFC to have him fight in the Rio card, and I don’t know if GSP would be able to fight soon after facing Shields (given that he wins, there’s that factor too).
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No need to shelf the dude, especially if GSP is gonna need maybe a year to get ready for MW.
The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.
by FreeLightningLee on Apr 9, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
Been waiting for this fight for ages!
And I can’t wait for a BE article on the last fight ofcourse :)
Sweet!
Looking forward to this one. Glad Okami finally got his shot.
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I think he was supposed to get it at UFC 90 before Okami had a hand injury
Hence we got….Patrick Cote.
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Long overdue.
WAR OKAMI. Its hilarious how all these fools are doubting Okami just the same as they doubted Sonnen ever had a chance.
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I'm definitely excited about this too.
I understand the where people are coming from when they doubt Silva’s opponents, but the bout could be a good one. Regardless, Okami has done quite well for himself and deserves it.
by Brent Ducharme on Apr 9, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
How ppl can think Okami has virtually no chance is beyond me- but you right, they said the same stuff before the Sonnen fight. I am a Silva fan, but Okami can definitely win this fight.
If if is in Brazil though, we should see an extremely motivated Silva, as we saw in the fight with Belfort. That doesn’t bode well for Okami.
If GSP does move up after the Shields fight
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by High Knee Destroyer on Apr 9, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
I dont understand why people are crying about this… Dude is the #2 Middleweight in the world and they’re bitching that it’s not GSP…. Do you really wanna see the Middleweight and Welterweight Champs shelved for a year so that one of them can get his swole on? i for one do not… GSP can start bulking up after his fight with Shields (should he win AND want to move to middleweight) while Anderson can stay busy with this fight. And should he lose, well then, GSP can move up if he wants still and fight Okami for the Middleweight Title. Problem Solved. Now quit crying.
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A cachtweight super fight between GS and Silva would the greatest MMA fight of all time and would not require a year for GSP to bulk up. Instead, we miss out on that for an Okami fight? Of course people are going to be pissed.
But you're acting like
if the Okami fight didn’t take place then they right away would’ve booked the catchweight fight, which is NOT AT ALL guaranteed to be the case.
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Why in the hell would they make the Rio show the biggest UFC event?
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I can only imagine grin on Okami’s face as he reads this news.
".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."
I know. He'll get some serious Brazilian booty before SIlva sends his head all the way to Chile.
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wow why is everybody saying that GSP-Silva won't happen?
If GSP wins, and Silva wins,
this gives GSP a couple extra of months to bulk up to 185!
No point in having Silva sit around.
Because Silva turns 40 after this fight.
Or some bullshit like that.
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Indirect reply is indirect.
Silva’s not getting any younger while GSP hems and haws.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If you want to make it seem like I’m singling you out, go for it. I’ve seen it several times on BE these past few months.
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Nein.
I’m just defending my position.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I see Okami winning. I don’t think Silva has that much of a reach advantage, either. I could see Okami grinding this out.
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Okami /= Sonnen
I don’t see a grind out issue here.
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What sense are you talking about?
Keeping a distance and doing enough to win the round?
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Grinding him against the cage with clinchwork. Sonnen worked more for takedowns. I see Okami leaning on him against the cage to wear Anderson out. He’ll mix in takedowns but Okami will probably try to fatigue Anderson against the cage with clinchwork.
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Yeah, and Silva is not dangerous in the clinch at all.
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by SSreporters on Apr 9, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least i don’t see Okami being caught on the same sub as easily as Sonnen does, so i wouldn’t say he is a worse opponent for Silva.
by Carlos Estrada-Ibars Martínez on Apr 9, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He also didn’t have reach advantage against Forrest…
".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."
by dancingChicken on Apr 9, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Okami is a better fighter at this point than Forrest was when he fought Anderson.
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Maybe.
".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."
by dancingChicken on Apr 9, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
YAAAAAAAAAAY!
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you pray for rain on parade days dont you?
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by the-gentle-way on Apr 9, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on the parade
But this is great. Okami finally didn’t eat shit in a #1 contender’s fight, and he deserves this fight.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't speak too soon.
Maybe he’ll injure himself again and we can see the fight we’ve all been waiting for…Silva/Cote 2! FUCK YEAH.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Bisping.
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by Ryan Tical on Apr 9, 2011 6:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You shut your whore mouth
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Here i got a riddle for yall.
What is 5’10" tall, speaks french , Is considered to be a P4P great in mma and is deathly afraid of spiders?
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by the-gentle-way on Apr 9, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Time to bring the Thunder!
Someone photoshop Yushin’s face on Raiden. Call him ‘Lord Yushin’.
Yushin looks like Kazuki Kitamura from the film “Like A Dragon”.
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by Ryan Tical on Apr 9, 2011 6:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Awesome!
I very much approve of this. Not that I’m a fan of Okami or anything like that, but more that I’m opposed to this whole idea of forcing GSP to move up from his optimal weight class. It makes all the sense in the world to make this Okami fight, even if GSP wants to fight Silva at a later stage. It’s stupid to have Silva on the shelf when we don’t even know if GSP wants to fight him or not, so the best thing is to have Silva fight Okami in the meantime.
I’m not a big fan of this whole GSP – Silva fight stuff, I prefer them to stay in their optimal weight classes and dominate their competition there. This talk of GSP being scared or whatever is stupid, he’s too small for MW, it doesn’t make sense to force him to go up there. There will always come along new contenders for his belt, the top 10 is not something static that never changes. The man is champion in one of the most competitive divisions in MMA, don’t disrespect him just because he’s not too interested in moving up 15 pounds for no reason.
by Horselover Fat on Apr 9, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Good for Okami
But this fucking blows. I don’t give a fuck about Silva defending his title anymore. The belt at 185 is as meaningless as any belt in the world. He should just drop the belt and let others fight for it.
I want GSP vs Silva, and anything else is bullshit. Are we seriously gonna have to wait until Andy is 40 for GSP to decide he’s “bulked up” enough? So much for “making the best fight the best”.
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by Anthony Pace on Apr 9, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You'll be singing a different tune when Okami wins this fight.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Avatar bet time.
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Have you seen the first fight Derek?
Silva was stuffing just about every takedown Okami tried, and kicking the shit out of Yushin’s legs. Anderson’s counter wrestling, and ability to land damaging strikes has only improved since then. I can’t say that Okami’s takedowns have improved significantly since that fight, although his hands have improved quite a bit.
If Okami can get Anderson down consistently, then I think he can control Ando better than Chael did, and avoid submissions better, but I don’t think he’ll do anywhere near as much damage as Sonnen did.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Both are older.
I see Okami as a Sonnen (not as good, but you don’t have to be against Anderson’s wrestling) with submission defense. I think Yushin grinds out a decision.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You never were very good at analyzing fights.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm like 35-11 in picks so far this year.
It’s scary.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Noice.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 9, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're wrong
And I think you picked Griffin to beat Silva too.
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That or Rumble over Koscheck was my worst ever.
But I’m kicking ASS with my picks this year.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Okami
is simply nowhere near the wrestler Chael is. You can see that not just from their head to head matchup, but in ever other one of their fights. I certainly wouldn’t consider Yushin to be significantly better than Hendo as a wrestler, and Anderson completely shut him down in the 2’nd round.
Ando doesn’t go down just from a strong wind, he’s neutralized some very good grappler’s takedowns. Okami isn’t the kind of guy who will be able to take Anderson down consistently, and the way he’s been getting clipped by guys like Munoz & Marquardt leads me to believe that Anderson should be able to land on him.
Okami COULD potentially take Anderson down, work from the top, and avoid getting subbed, but 25 minutes is an incredibly long time to not take a deathblow or get submitted by Mr. Silva. I give Yushin a 30/70 chance, tops.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
At some point, Anderson’s wheels are going to fall off. 13-0 in the UFC is ridiculous and may never happen again, but it can’t go on forever. Every time he defends is like another two standard deviations away from the norm. I think it’s about that time.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Well,
I agree that a guy with Anderson’s style will probably fall pretty hard eventually. However, you can’t bank on that- when it happens, it happens, but from the way he looked against Vitor, I would say he’s definitely still good enough to beat Okami.
Because really, Yushin shouldn’t be able to do all that much damage to Anderson. He has never been the type of guy to just lay a beating on someone, unless you’re a Linhares level fighter.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been really impressed with him recently. That jab is just brutal. I’m a big Okami fan.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
His hands
have definitely improved. I think he could sit down better on his cross (overextends himself and is a tad off balance, doesn’t pivot enough on the foot), but he’s developed a very disarming striking game. Unfortunately for him, I think Anderson’s style of countering is perfect for countering Yushin’s plodding pressure game.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And what
you think Okami has the potential to just ride that jab all the way to a victory against someone like Anderson? And let’s be honest, he looked outstanding against Linhares (not in the UFC anymore) but sort of lukewarm against Munoz and Marquardt.
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Yeah,
he didn’t exactly dominate Mark or Nate. Both guys clipped him with some hard shots, I tend to think Anderson will do that, but worse.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Liddell/Wanderlei… too late
Couture/Fedor… nope
Brock/Fedor… nope
GSP/Silva… nope
This is depressing.
Don't lose hope yet,
if GSP gets past Shields, then this gives him a good amount of time to pack on some muscle. I say they just do the damn fight at a catchweight, and GSP puts on like 5 lbs of muscle.
They sure are making alot of obstacles for this great fight, though.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't get why people are writing Okami off, i think he is Silva's biggest thread at 185 (with the exception of Vitor)
Sonnen showed that anderson’s biggest weakness is his wrestling, and even thou Okami isn’t on the same level as Sonnen (plus he isn’t on roids) he is still one of the biggest and strongest MW’s in the UFC. Plus Okami has great Jiu Jitsu so i doubt he would get caught in something like Sonnen.
With anderson, its obvious that the fight could end at any moment with a flash KO, but i honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Okami took the belt from anderson, he has improved his stand—up and has good wrestling. Plus, i still have some concerns about anderson, people raved about his KO over Belfort, but the fight didn’t go long enough to show if the fatigue issues he had in the past were due to injuries or what. Its plausible that age is catching up to Anderson, and Okami could be the one to dethrone him.
This also doesn’t mean the end of Silva vs GSP superfight, in reality that fight wasn’t going to happen until december since GSP was fighting in April, and he needs time to bulk up, so to me it makes sense to have anderson fight the last true contender at 185, and then have the superfight at the end of the year.
Okami Deserves a Title Shot
Okami is 10-2 since coming to the UFC in 2006. He won three fights in a row in 2010, including wins over Mark Munoz and Nate Marquardt. The lack of finishes is a legitimate criticism, but there is no doubt that he has improved his stand up significantly during his time in the UFC. He’s always been one of the bigger middleweights around and he’s always been known as a strong wrestler/grappler. Okami himself has only been finished once in his career all the way back in 2003.
LOL
at people acting like this in any way effects the possibility of the GSP/Silva superfight.
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happening anytime soon that is.
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Exactly. GSP himself said he would do it the “right way” in that he would pack on the proper amount of muscle before fighting at 185. It takes time to do that. No reason to let Silva wait around when Okami is without a doubt the #1 contender.
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It absolutely does.
If either Shields or Okami score the upset, then the fight doesn’t happen.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem solved. Tired of this superfight bitching.
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So you
would rather see people stop asking for this fight, than to actually see the fight happen? Whatever blows up your skirt, I guess…
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Not what I said and please, stop putting words in my mouth. Its clear that the fight is still a long ways off considering how reluctant GSP has been when asked about the fight and how strongly he feels about properly moving up in weight. In the meantime, why keep Silva on the backburner while GSP fights Shields? He’s not getting any younger. If either Shields or Okami score the upset, so be it. Then we would know for sure they are no longer the best in their division.
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That's fair.
I’m not against Yushin getting the title shot, it’s definitely deserved. I’m just of the opinion that if there’s a good fight, MAKE IT. Stop making so many stipulations and hoops to jump through, and just put the damn fight together.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s like owning an entire division of fighters isn’t good enough anymore.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not the point
I want to see the sickest fucking fights possible, and Silva/GSP is the sickest fight in the world right now. But GSP keeps deflecting and the UFC brass keep lining up this “meh” fights, and it pisses me off
I'M AT THE PIZZA HUT. I'M AT THE TACO BELL. I'M AT THAT COMBINATION PIZZA HUT AND TACO BELL.
Really?
are your expectations for what would possibly take place in that fight all that high? Do you think we’re going to be treated to some Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Matrix-like, otherworldly action?
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It's possible that Silva could go Super Sayen 4
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I don't...
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by Fake Emcee on Apr 9, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, you can't just keep both these guys incased in bubble wrap or something until they finally agree on terms
When they still have at least one legitimate contender available to them, it’s just the chance we’re all going to have to take. This superfight wasn’t necessarily going down anytime soon even without Okami’s involvement, in fact I’d venture to say that the reason the fight is even taking place is because the superfight still looks so far of in terms of logistics.
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to be fair
they will always have legitimate contenders available to them.
Kickin’ in the front seat, Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up which seat can I take?
Really, like who?
Shields/GSP and Silva/Okami are two fights that have been called for at least for as long as I’ve been paying attention to the sport. But now that everybody is all caught up in “superfight fever” it’s like they can’t even take the time to appreciate the quality matchups that are actually beeing put before them.
I can’t believe I’m even seeing Okami getting effectively left for dead on the side of the road in terms of people’s expectations for the fight. Personally, I don’t even know what the appeal is for Anderson to fight GSP in the first place. I think it’d be much more interesting, and much less confusing of an idea size wise, to see Anderson go up to 205.
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I think Okami’s catching the “we want GSP/Silva” backlash. Remember when everyone bitched about him not getting a title shot forever?
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm fine with Okami getting the title shot,
I think it would’ve been ideal for the UFC to have booked the Silva/ St. Pierre fight as soon as possible, but things do feel pretty unresolved without Anderson rematching Okami.
Same with Shields- for years, he’s been the only WW who’s had the same kind of consistency as GSP. It would feel weird for them not to fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Again
why are people just assuming that if this fight between Silva and Okami didn’t happen that GSP would’ve immediately signed on the dotted line despite how consistently hesitant he’s been about acknowledging the possibilities of the fight.
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I don't think it's hesitation,
I think it’s bargaining. I think he’s already negotiating the terms of the fight, trying to get the ideal conditions for the fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It also appears to be
so some sort of premature buriel of Okami’s abilities in order to effectively downplay the significance of a potential Anderson victory, at least with some.
Before fight: “Vitor Belfort is going to be Anderson’s greatest challenge in years.”
After fight: “Oh, nobody really thought Belfort had any chance to win.”
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well, they can always hype someone to appear legitimate, people are going to start coming over from SF and they will appear legitimate, it’s a never ending cycle IMO, I don’t think there will be shortages of contenders. But even if you have legitimate contenders doesn’t mean they’ll give them a fight. Personally I’m fine with not seeing this fight coming to fruition, but I wouldn’t mind seeing it either. As long as both fighters seem like they want it, I don’t think GSP should be forced to move up even if he continues to beat everyone at WW.
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So far off?
They both fight in the same promotion. They’ve both beat nearly every elite contender in their divisions. Shields and Okami are the last. I’m okay with the Okami fight happening, because GSP wants to pack on some muscle (which is fine), but I would rather see the fight at a catchweight. Both men are obviously in their optimal weight classes, it’s just a great fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It's "so far off"
becuase everytime GSP gets asked about it he still needs to either “bulk up” or “talk to his camp about it.”
Let’s be honest here, GSP in no way seems gung ho about making this matchup. Anderson seems pretty nonchalant about whether it happens or not, but GSP realizes just how complicated of a decision this might actually be for him and just how much is at risk.
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I think
all the “bulking up” talk is just GSP ensuring that everything is right for the fight. Anderson’s camp has said he’d even do a 175 lb. catchweight. GSP could start lifting after the Shields fight, and put on enough muscle to be just as heavy as Anderson at a catchweight.
Both men know what this fight could mean for their wallets and legacies, and both guys are all about just that.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP could start lifting after the Shields fight, and put on enough muscle to be just as heavy as Anderson at a catchweight.
Exactly, and in the mean time instead of Anderson just sitting on the shelf he can go ahead and fight Okami. I don’t know what the problem is with this scenario. If Anderson losses in the mean time, well then too bad.
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That's fair.
I just think that in this sport, you need to strike when the iron’s hot. If there’s a good fight, you just make it.
Do you think Strikeforce would’ve rather had Overeem be the man to end Fedor’s (then) ridiculous win streak, as opposed to Werdum? Do you think Dana would’ve been happier if Chuck had just got a title shot against Wanderlei right off the bat, instead of getting the snot beat out of him by Rampage?
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
About fucking time.
I have been a big supporter of this matchup for a long time now, good to see it finally come to fruitrition. Not only does Okami really deserve this opportunity, there is a nice little backstory here. Also, Okami has just a good of chance of beating Silva than anybody, GSP including.
GSP has a better chance IMO
Better overall striking, better takedowns, and better positional control/ guard passing, and better submissions. He’s just smaller, other than that GSP is literally better than Okami in every facet.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
EXACTLY.
The only significant thing this gif leaves out is the one takedown Yushin did score, and then proceeded to do nothing with.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly my asshole. They are two completely different fighters now. Silva is of course the favorite but that doesn’t mean Okami doesn’t have a chance.
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That's just the thing though, Okami doesn't have a chance.
If you look at Okami then and look at Okami now, he still hasn’t improved much. That gif explains perfectly why he has no business in the cage with Silva.
I’m sorry but there’s just no way in hell that he beats Silva.
by Tech Fall 171 on Apr 9, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He has the fight so he has a chance. Not a good chance, but a chance. Lots of people have bitched for a long time about Yushin deserving a shot. Now he is going to get his shot. And all those people will get the pleasure of watching him get completely decimated.
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by Earl Montclair on Apr 9, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet you were the same person who said Sonnen didn’t have a chance against Silva either. If Thales Leites and Demian Maia can survive lackluster decisions against Silva, Okami (the #1 contender) has every right to be in the cage with Silva.
I’ll be looking for you if Okami beats Silva. Ready to serve you a nice plateful of crow.
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I actually wanted Sonnen to win the fight, thanks for playing, though.
And you definitely can’t deny that Silva didn’t fight to the best of his abilities in the Leites and Maia fights.
by Tech Fall 171 on Apr 9, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You may have wanted him to win but be honest, you didn’t give him a bat’s chance in hell. And yes, I also believe that Silva didn’t fight to the best of his abilities but whose to say he will if he fights Okami again? You bet your ass Okami has a chance.
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Of course Okami has a chance,
it’s a fight. But as Tech Fall 171 said, Okami hasn’t really improved all that much since their first fight. Okami has better striking, but his takedowns haven’t improved noticeably since then, and that’s his best route to victory. Anderson’s counter wrestling game has really developed a ton since that first fight, and his striking has shifted so that he lands devastating, pinpoint counters.
Munoz rocked the shit out of Okami, and Nate clipped him hard quite a few times. Yushin has an excellent chin, so he survived, but I suspect Anderson will have much more success than Munoz & Marquardt did with the striking.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Who won that fight?
Unavenged losses made baby Jesus cry.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
How can you consider that a loss that needs to be avenged?
In that case, Jones needs to avenge his loss against Hammil, because we all know that fight would just be so exciting.
by Tech Fall 171 on Apr 9, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
If you want to be real about it
nodody really.
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The way I feel at this point in time about Silva, is that something's got to give.
We all, for whatever reasons we have, want to see Anderson fight GSP. I, myself, am not interested in the fight at all, as a logical spectator, but as a fan I would like to see it. Georges will not have his usual size and strength advantage [obviously], and would also not have his speed advantage. Also, aside from Sonnen, we have never seen someone have so much success with taking Anderson down.
So the way I see it now, is that if Anderson doesn’t want to move up to the 205 pound weight class, he might as well prepare to retire. I don’t think there’s currently a fighter in all of MMA at the 170 or 185 pound weight class that can defeat Anderson.
I just don't get that sentiment.
If he wants to keep adding to his UFC record title run and dominating the middleweight division, he should just hang ’em up? Why?
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What if he gets bored?
Once you dominate your sport for so long a time, you will eventually get tired and bored of it. At this point, other than a potential fight with Jacare and maybe a fight with Bisping, who else is there going to really be left for him to fight?
by Tech Fall 171 on Apr 9, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That's up to him.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 9, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
what?
how can you say he has’nt improved much first of all that fight was at like 170 okami is much bigger and stronger his striking is leaps and bounds better than that fight and his wrestling is better
GSP needs to GTFO. UFC is on a decline.
I haven’t been truly excited about a fight since Lesnar vs Valesquez… UFC needs a super fight right now. GSP vs Silva is it.
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