Bloody Elbow has become my new LOVE! LOL
by Ben Saunders on Apr 8, 2011 7:14 PM EDT
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PrintSeriously you all @ BloodyElbow really sparked a fire in me... which had me really excited and pumped to go out there and put on a show!
I want to seriously Thank You all so much for the support I have been getting. I literally used all that positive energy as fuel when I was fighting on Saturday. I know I still have a lot to prove, including how well my Wrestling, Takedown Defense, and Subs and Sweeps off my back. But just know that I am fully aware of this, and will continue to just train that much harder. I have my goals set and know exactly what I want to add and refine to my game. My plan is to make any wrestler that tries to take me down, work his ass off doing my best to make it difficult and painful. If they succeed I plan to make them wish they didn't by trying to stay very active and aggressive off my back, whether it be punches, elbows, up kicks, submissions, or sweeps. The ultimate plan is to become the Ultimate Riddler... lol
Try to make everyone guessing... how do we solve the riddle that is "Ben Saunders". The Blue Print has been laid out, but I plan to train harder then ever to do my best to make sure that Blue Print becomes obsolete!
Thank you all again for the support and I hope you guys enjoyed the show. I don't think I have ever fought someone as tough or with as much heart Mr. Matt Sung Lee! He is the Ultimate Warrior and deserves nothing but complete respect. Matt is was an honor to do battle with you sir. Like I told you after the fight, if you ever want me to stop by your gym or give a free seminar, it would be my honor. =)
-Killa B
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Now on a more financial note… lol. :D
Anyone not dying from our economy that has a little money laying around. If you want to show your support and buy an OFFICIAL Ben “Killa B” Saunders T-Shirt. You can get them off my Official Website. The cost is $30 but this includes shipping to anywhere in the United States. All International Orders e-mail me for special processing. Also and inquiries about autographs shirts or gear can e-mail me also.
I don’t have a job other than fighting and this is my only other source of income. So if you are willing to support a fellow starving artist… It would be much appreciated.
The shirt is custom artwork that entails my “Official Killa B” Logo or KB Logo with a collage of everything that has made me who I am today… Bruce Lee, Jeet Kune Do, The Samurai Spirit showcased through my actual tattoo’s, Muay Thai… u name it. This Shirt is a complete masterpiece into who I am as a fighter and a Martial Artist. It’s not some thrown together real quick promo gig. This shirt has been in the makings for 3 years now. Hope you guys can see the Amazing Awesomeness and time we put into this product just like I can. I mean common it’s freakin sweet! lol ;D
Also if you e-mail a picture of you sporting a “Killa B” T-Shirt we will be posting you up on my Official Website! Just trying to Swarm upon the world like I do my opponents. Much love and respect! =)
Also I am going to be doing appearance gigs at the UFC Expo in Canada this month. Any company’s interested in booking me for a gig can email me at…
Gotta make that money any way I can! Hustle Baby! lol =)
-Killa B
by Ben Saunders on Apr 8, 2011 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
OK everyone I am currently in the works of creating some really nice high quality Autograph-able flyers to take to the UFC Fan Expo in Canada. This way I got something nice to sign and give out to all my fans.
The front side of the flyer will be a photo of me to autograph and sign for everyone and the back I am using for sponsors and advertisements. I am not a greedy person, just trying to make enough to pay for my travel expenses. Anyone interested in Sponsoring my trip or wanting to advertise at the biggest Mixed Martial Arts Fan Expo in History, hit me up ASAP! This is going to be GREAT exposure for anyone!
Email me at bensaundersmma@gmail.com
by Ben Saunders on Apr 8, 2011 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
not sure yet...
the latest would be June. No event or opponent yet. =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 8, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Call out Askren!
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 8, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hornbuckle
would be an awesome fight..just saying. Might be a good future opponent for you.
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by achengy on Apr 9, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Seconded.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry guys
He’s a teammate. Only reason we would fight would be if the money was right for both of us to make it worth it, or if it was for the belt.
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahh.
Gotcha man, forgot about that.
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"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 10, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, huge opportunity
to quote one of my favorite MMA moments:
Ryo Chonan on Twitter after finding out Hornbuckle was sick and couldn’t fight him -
“Fuck! Chenge oppornent. Honebackle is influenza! Fuck!”
On a more serious note, that’s some solid WW talent if you two are training together. Tell Hornbuckle to keep coming back. He’s only going to get better, like you are trying to do too.
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by Ben Thapa on Apr 10, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was actually gonna fight Ryo Chonen.
I’m pretty sure it was like 4-5 days notice before the fight, I got asked to fight Ryo in Japan. I told them I am not that heavy (probably 193lbs.), I wasn’t in bad shape and was willing to take the fight short notice, but requested a catch weight of 175lbs. since I had less than a week to cut 23 pounds to make weight. I was just asking if that was possible, I even contemplated cutting to 170lbs. just for the opportunity to fight in Japan. But they ended up choosing Hornbuckle and then he had to pull out. But he was really short notice. So maybe he got sick trying to cut his weight. Who knows. Sucks… but this is part of the game. I still think doing 155, 165, 175, 185, 195, 205 weight classes would do big things for this sport. =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Loved your most recent fight Ben. Thank you for your performance!
by castleeb on Apr 8, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thank you!
I tried to keep it brutally exciting.. lol
by Ben Saunders on Apr 8, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was amazing
I’m a huge fan of yours and that was a gruesome fight. I’m saving up money to buy a shirt. I realize it’s only 30 bucks but when you don’t it 30 bucks is a lot.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
by dedstrk316 on Apr 9, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
Trust me I feel you bro. I don’t think people really understand that MMA Fighter pay rolls aint something to brag about. Sucks cause I used to be able to focus on just the fight game, and the love and passion for what i do. But once u quite everything and all you do is train and fight and thats your only income. You gotta look into the best options to fund this lifestyle. Fighting alone ain’t cuttin it. Opening an academy is something I want to focus on later in my career. So self promotion and self marketing seems to be my best option. I pretty much am now in the Ben Saunders business as opposed to just the fight business. Maybe try to get some appearance gigs, or maybe do some seminars… this has been a high priority over the past year. Find ways to make income and still be able to primarily focus most of my time into improving my skills and my weaknesses. The evolution of this sport is Cruel! There are 18 year olds with the skills of us veterans. We gotta evolve fast enough to not just be on top, but to climb to the top and then reign is sopmething so rare… I gotta do it. This is my journey… my mount Everest if you will.. I’m gonna make it… as long as I give it everything I got! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Thanks for saying this.
Most fans don’t get how hard you guys work and how little money you take home. Fighters that do speak up get batted down for “crying” or “bitching” when you’re the real value of MMA. Thanks for the sacrifices you’ve made for our entertainment, Ben. I assure you, we have all been entertained.
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-Randall Munroe
by pdl on Apr 11, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
thanks for sharing your time with us Ben.
I hope you continue posting and keeping us up to date with your career. Good luck on your next fight. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 11, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions
=)
Thanks buddy… I wish I got to finish him, but he was a warrior! Never gave up.. ever…
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
good to see you posting again Mr. Saunders
& congratulations on your TKO!
"Live fast, die." ~ GG Allin
by Bonedoctor on Apr 8, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
& oh yeah
would you mind driving a knee through Mr. Akrens head?
"Live fast, die." ~ GG Allin
by Bonedoctor on Apr 8, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
HAHAHA
If he ends up being in the cage across from me.. then yes sir it would be my pleasure! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 8, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
idc what anyone says, you have some of the most violent knees in MMA
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by KingAtRock on Apr 8, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
Not gonna lie… that is a goal/title I hope to achieve one day!
It’s on my to do list! hahaha
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s rare to see that kind of domination in the MT clinch at this level in MMA. It truly is a thing of vicious beauty. Finding yourself in the thai clinch with a guy who knows what he’s doing, and can keep control, is scary business.
I dig what you’re doing here on BE, keep on trail blazin’!
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 8, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no shit man. The first time my old muay thai coach had me there he could have fucking destroyed me with knees if he wanted to. Scary shit.
I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you!
Thanks man!
I try to bring the beauty of brutality into every fight. I believe my mind became sadistic while drooling over team Chute Box fighting over in Pride!(If I could only kick and knee a downed opponent, life would be so much more incredible! lol) Those were the guys I loved and is the mindset I attempt to bring into every fight… Violent, Aggressive, and a bit of Humor… While lookin at my opponent across the cage I think funny things to myself like…. “Damn… It sucks to be you…” and “Cause if don’t know… now you know…” random various things that basically emphasize what I am about to set out and do… Some can refer to it as “Getting your mind right” every fighter has there own ways of doing so… My zone is Sadistic Humor by thoughts of brutality and the knowledge of knowing what kind of damage I’m capable of doing. While thinking about how I am about to do it. Then I do my best to accomplish it… like letting a pitbull off it’s leash. BJ Penn mentality… Just Scrap! =) HAHAHA
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
solid win.
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by Cory Braiterman on Apr 8, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Killa B = one of my favorite fighters
Can’t wait for your next fight man
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by Grappo on Apr 9, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Grappo!
Those gifs look awesome! Thank You! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
One of my favorite MMA memories was you turning Brandon Wolff into a Klingon
Before then I didn’t know you dabbled in special effects makeup. I absolutely agree with Bonedoctor— please deflate Askern’s hot air hype balloon with 25 alternating knees to the dome. He bruises easy, so I’m thinking you can perform some movie magic on him.. Let’s say… Rocky Denis?
"I can be friends with anybody. Man. Woman. Cat. Dog. Fish..... Alien." -Rampage
by Charles Awad on Apr 8, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I was asked to...
But then Steven Seagal front kicked him! lol
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
damn...
what movie is that from again? lol
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It was called Mask
Hahaha
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by Charles Awad on Apr 10, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Google "rocky dennis"
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"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 10, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Congratulations!
We were all cheering for you, Ben! I know lots of people tuned in just to check out your fight, thanks for another brutal performance. And that’s a badass gif haha. Keep up the great work and I hope to see that Bellator title around your waist soon.
"I am going to punch faces." --Wanderlei Silva
War Miller Bros.
Ordered my shirt!
Keep kicking ass!
"I am going to punch faces." --Wanderlei Silva
War Miller Bros.
by Jay Bittner on Apr 8, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Jay!
Seriously appreciate it homie! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Congrats on the last fight man
I was really impressed by your first post on here. You came off as very down to earth and a cool dude. I really enjoyed your last fight and am looking forward to more. You got a new fan here bro. War Killa B!
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
by Chris Hall on Apr 8, 2011 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Thanks Chris!
Happy u enjoyed it brother… I aim to please. lol
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job, Ben. I always want to see you do well. Can’t wait til payday so I can pick up my Killa B shirt son!
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by Earl Montclair on Apr 8, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
You Sir...
Are a Gentlemen and a Scholar! HAHAHA
Seriously thanks 4 the support! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome freaking fight man.
Like I said on your last post I became a fan simply because you get on here and interact with the common-folk. From a fan perspective that ’s fucking awesome.
I’ll be picking up a Killa B shirt on the 29th because as you said “gotta make that money” haha
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by dgonz on Apr 8, 2011 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I am a HUGE MMA Fan Myself!
So I know what it’s like.. If I could talk with Fedor or Wanderlei Silva, & Shogun, I would be going nuts! HAHAHA
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in
That’s actually a pretty badass shirt.
by Wonderlic on Apr 8, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hell yeah
Just ordered mine too. I dig it.
"I am going to punch faces." --Wanderlei Silva
War Miller Bros.
by Jay Bittner on Apr 8, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
that shirt is seriously rad.
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by Chris Barton on Apr 9, 2011 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and him 3...
LISTEN to these guys! Great minds think a like…
=D
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Seeing you dish out nonstop punishment in person was completely amazing. I just wish the fight had been stopped earlier. You did great Ben, ask bellator to book your next fight at the mohegan sun so I can drop by again!
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by Hendo_One-Shot on Apr 8, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
In Person...
Man, what were you thinking after the second round…
The bell rang for Round 3 and they were still in there discussing over letting it go or not, and patching him up. Took what seemed to be an additional 1 to 2 minutes after the bell. Thought for sure it was being called off. That’s why I didn’t tap gloves the 3rd round. I knew this being the last round it was time to really goto work and finish him. But damn he had no quite in him, and that was awesome to witness. Seeing this guy not back down once, no matter what I was hitting him with turn me into Matt Sung Lee’s biggest fan! That dude is a T-1000 Terminator!
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He had no quit for sure
But looking at the ref while watching (sadly I wasn’t there) I got the impression he was ready to stop the fight as soon as the blood started flowing again. I had no doubt that it was getting stopped in Rd 3
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
by Chris Hall on Apr 11, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ya the doc told him...
He didn’t believe it was go on much longer… or something like that before allowing round 3 to start.
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Then why didn't the doc stop it???
I get that he didn’t wanna quit, but what’s the point in the doctor letting him cover it up in vaseline just to wait for it to bust open and call it? From what you’re saying and what we saw the doc knew it should have been stopped and just didn’t…?
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
I think the doctor saw something...
Whether it was Lee’s heart, his corners passion and aggression saying he’s fine, or the crowd clapping and chanting. The doctor made the call and gave him a shot to try and make something happen. I hope I get that doctor if I am getting beat up. Let me go out on my shield! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 12, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
That shows the incredible heart of a fighter we as fans all love
But on the other hand, as a fan, this sort of thing concerns me when you’ve got a guy like Koscheck come out 3 months after his fight saying he still can’t feel his face ( I don’t think anyone hates Kos enough to enjoy that lol). We all love the true battles of MMA and the wars of attrition, and watching you guys do things most of us can only dream of. But I don’t think anyone would take joy in seeing a man permanently injured because he has too much heart.
I could prolly do a whole fanpost on this one just thinking about it here, but the simple point is that part of the docs job is to protect you guys from yourself. And as much as a doctor stoppage might suck, its better than permanent damage.
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
Great great fight Ben! Your Muay Thai would make Sagat proud.
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by Kneeeeee on Apr 8, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Sagat was my favorite character in Street Fighter!
He is my video game idol! lol
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Killa B just became one of my favorite fighters.
BE needs to be utilized by more fighters.
It’s so much better then the UG.
Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.
Pretty short list
The Goat and Killa B are as famous as we’ve seen.
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You're forgetting all the attention Carwin heaps on us, too.
He loves us so much.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 9, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah
But he doesn’t show his face around here.
"I can be friends with anybody. Man. Woman. Cat. Dog. Fish..... Alien." -Rampage
the UG is full of people who have been or would get banned from here
It’s almost all trolls trolling trolls now. It’s great for the lols sometimes, but it is 100% impossible to hold a good conversation on it. I still like it and go there because its a good place to get news and tidbits generally before other places get them, but other than that…. boy.
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by Cory Braiterman on Apr 8, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Rollo
I didn’t realize how much fan support you guys had here… I’m loving it! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Sung Lee should thank Ben Saunders for providing a new career option, that of being Victim #3 in the new Hannibal Lecter movie. Good work Killa B… keep killin.
by John Danaher's Hair on Apr 8, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So bad ass that you post here Killa B
Good luck in your next fight. Hope to see you back in the big show soon
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by II SMASH II on Apr 8, 2011 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ben if you fight Askren, do you think he will try to play it safe and lay on you the whole time to avoid any kind of damage, or entertainment for that matter? Askren is the most boring fighter in the world to me, regardless of his beautiful wrestling. And I like wrestling. I don’t know why I just feel he uses his wrestling to stall out heavily and wear time down. It works great but is boring as hell to watch. i want you to knee him into the stratosphere.
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by ChickenSalad on Apr 8, 2011 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes...
If we fought he would utilize his strengths and take the fight where he has the best chance of winning. That is a winning tactic or game plan. He wouldn’t deny it either. He might try to hype up his gameplan by saying he would TKO me or beat me down with some vicious ground and pound, might even say a submission. But it’s his style and he is phenominal at it and at winning. Hat goes off to Askren for still being undefeated. That’s not an easy record to hold in the MMA game. He is very talented and who knows what he looks like in a year or 2 on his feet.
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Very cool of you to take the time to interact with us fans Killa B
Little things like that go a long way if you truly believe in positive energy
Don't let my support confuse you, I am in fact a fan of the Giants.
by tito (eight and oh) on Apr 8, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Absolutley!
Anyone that actually believes in Karma, Chi, and positive energy knows it goes a long way! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
This is awesome
This is the most honest straight forward look into a fighter’s psyche I have ever seen. Straight from the source. So many times I think to myself, does fighter X know he needs to work on Y? You are doing great work.
by cokemachinebaby on Apr 9, 2011 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Thanks cokemachine
It’s cool how much you guys actually care about this. It makes it fun. lol
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
i know of “Doctor Who?” But never really saw it before… why do you ask? =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Original version is the best
And you sir, are what knees were made for… except for walking and shit.
I should have satyed out of Cain’s strawberry patch.
by donkeypunch on Apr 12, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ben - Question
Understand that your martial path started with JKD. That must mean you’ve done some wing chun in the past. Have you ever trained sticky hands?
If so – do you think that you be able to apply some of those techniques to the ground n pound or guard game. I’m thinking that thus far few people have technical GNP. If you were able to use the theory of the centerline from top position in guard i have this vision of some brutal GNP. Similarly the defense could be useful for the guy on bottom who is facing bombs from above.
I’m an armchair theorist and not a fighter. Have done some Wing Chun and some BJJ (as well as MT and Karate) in the past but never stepped in to a cage and don’t think I ever will – but i’ve always thought it would be possible.
As a pro fighter do you have any thoughts?
PS – have emailed you about t-shirts for international shipping.
by rainmaker6 on Apr 9, 2011 3:54 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wing Chun does work!
You can def translate Wing Chun into and other style… Like I stressed a while ago. Every style and technique works. It’s your knowledge of other styles, techniques, and tactics are what may make or break your style. If your aware and can adapt to any style then u can use any style against it. Best realization for understanding his claim of using no style as your style… and using no way as the way. Adapting like water was a concept way ahead of it’s time. Be water my friend! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
dominant wrestler vs killa doesn't sound very fun
Keep having flashbacks vs Fitch :(
Rather see Killa B against another striker and/or a wrestler who isn’t quite as good as Askren and laying and praying
Well...
One thing I will say is as good as Ben Askren might be as a wrestler… He isn’t a blackbelt in BJJ like Fitch and Hallman. So the chances of me submitting Askren are much greater IMO… =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 9, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If only these well legal......what a shame.
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by RolloTomasi on Apr 9, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really wish they were.
I think there should be a rule change so that when both fighters are grounded, kicks to the head are legal. Upkicks would then be legal, as would kicking the head of a fighter going for a leglock.
IMO, leglocks are unrealistic in MMA right now, since you can’t kick the face.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
IMO, leglocks are unrealistic in MMA right now, since you can’t kick the face.
Someone disagrees with you
I like Palhares,
but you can’t say that the threat of getting kicked in the face wouldn’t change the way fighters approached leglocks.
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"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 9, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
No I cannot say that
As a lover of leglocks (except the inverted heel hook, just because it hurts me to look at it) I’m all for more ways to use leglocks.
I just think it's a tad lopsided right now.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 10, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
But, ANY banned move makes the fight somewhat "unrealistic".
I mean, surely if you hit a guy hard enough to get him to drop to a knee, you should be able to legitimately finish him with a kick or knee to the head. But in the interests of “palatability”, the truth is that UFC is not a realistic fight. It’s an entertaining combat sport which happens to have less limitations than other combat sports, like boxing etc. Then you have eye pokes/gouges, groin strikes, punches to the back of the head, etc, all of which you would see in “realistic”/real fights. And, of course, breaks between rounds… how many times do we see someone saved by the bell?
True,
but most banned moves are banned because they are extremely harmful, to the point of it being seriously dangerous to allow them.
A grounded fighter should be able to kick the head, as you can’t really generate enough power for it to be as dangerous as a standing stomp, knees to the head on the ground, standing soccer kick, etc.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 10, 2011 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd argue that Anderson kick had much less force then the Vitor face licker kick.
Ban it!
Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.
Nick Diaz just beat Paul Daley at his own (and only) game.
The difference being
that from a standing position, you can move around easily, and dodge strikes. On the ground you are much less mobile.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 10, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Add pistols and flamethrowers
and we got a real scrap.
Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.
Nick Diaz just beat Paul Daley at his own (and only) game.
not all grounded kicks though...
I remember this one fight where both were on the ground with one attempting a leglock. the guy “defended” with landing his heel several times on the guy’s head while it was planted on the mat.
That’s not safe compared to upkicks.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 11, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I would prefer all grounded kicks to be allowed,
but would settle for upkicks.
And the anecdotal evidence you provided just shows how really- it’s leglocks that are dangerous to attempt. If it’s literally THAT EASY to get whacked in the face with heel strikes going for a leglock, then maybe that just shows a glaring weakness of leglocks.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 11, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
And I would still imagine that this heel to head defensive kick...
is less damaging than a classic Crocop head kick or the one Gonzaga landed on him… Of course, no one wants to ban head kicks, even though they can be devastating… it would take away one of the most spectacular moves in the game.
And I don't know the answer to this but...
Through all the days of Pride, how many people were killed/neck broken/brain damaged by knees or kicks to the head while on the ground? Versus the the same statistics for standing knees and kicks to the head? The answer tells you, when you allow both types of moves, which one winds up actually causing more serious injury. And by what differential. If it isn’t much, I’m in favor of allowing kicks to “grounded” opponents. (Especially those that play the “one finger down” game!!!)
Well,
I used to be very gung ho about allowing kicks/ stomps/ knees to the head of grounded opponents, and to be honest- I still pretty much am.
However, the image of Kitaoka puking his guts out after getting drilled to the head by Hirota knees… it’s burned in my brain. I think limiting some strikes ends up being better for the fighter’s overall health.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 11, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Would that be the Dave Herman bout in Sengoku you are thinking of?
Forget the opponent, but I think it was Jim York? Too lazy to look it up, but I think that’s it. Brock Larson tried the same thing in the UFC and got docked points for it.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Hmm...
I think it was, actually. Too lazy to check also. haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 11, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for stopping by Ben
Hope to see more from you soon, both here and in the Octagon.
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A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who -- Jay-Z
Im buying a shirt...
Bro Im sure the love is reciprocated with all of us
Im sure I speak for most people on here that we love having fighters such as yourself posting and adding to the great place we have here….
Stay up, good luck and keep the chin tucked
by FLOJO on Apr 9, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hell Ya!
Thanks FloJo
I’m diggin how you guys are all so cool. I knew of BloodyElbow for info but didn’t even realize the fan posts. =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Can we make Ben Saunders green?
For giving BE props?
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A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who -- Jay-Z
by thetakeover on Apr 11, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Green?
What’s that mean/do? =)
Is it like the Glow from The Last Dragon… that’s when u know your reached The Next Level… lol
=)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
it means 3 people think what you said was awesome
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
by Chris Hall on Apr 11, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thank you sir
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
The only thing that sucks worse than the O.K Sooners is my knowledge of MMA. I’m only a member of this site because A.K lets me be one. And for that, I am thankful.
Has a sig bet with Californication for Wiman/Siver at UFC 132
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Apr 12, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sort of poor myself so no shirt for me at this point in time, but it’s definitely a killer design! It was a fun fight, the only thing is you laid such a beating on that guy, but he just wouldn’t go down, so it almost became a little hard to watch as it progressed. That’s obviously not your fault as such, you did everything to finish the fight and it was a very good performance, but man that was one resilient son of a bitch, just it looked like had nothing for you except that toughness. Congrats on the win and getting some television exposure again, hope to see you soon! Preferably in the UFC ;) and here on BE of course!
by Horselover Fat on Apr 9, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thank You!
Don’t even sweat it bro. Thats why i said it’s for only the people with extra money laying around.I feel you on the cash flo and appreciate your support more than any $$$ amount. Thank you! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Find a good brand to work with.
If you don’t have a manager getting you long term deals or you aren’t able to get a great apparel brand behind ya… I’ll talk to some contacts for you if you want. Just let me know.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Gif time!
I love bloody fights, and Ben always delivers. Thanks for not being boring Ben.
Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.
by RolloTomasi on Apr 9, 2011 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
NO! I like Marcus Davis!
Damn you Rollo Tomasi!
by Unabomberman on Apr 9, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like him too.
But LW is where he now belongs.
Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.
Nick Diaz just beat Paul Daley at his own (and only) game.
Pretty sure he belongs in retirement.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
That's great...
Who did he fight? what weight class? =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He moved down to 155
and won a split decision over Curtis Demarce.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 11, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
you're avatar makes me happy....
in my pants
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
The name's Kari Sweets
now GOOGLE! You’ll thank me later.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 11, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Bless you, sir.
Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "Everybody underestimates the kick in the groin." - Bas Rutten
by Richard Wade on Apr 12, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice looking website Ben, loving the Bruce Lee graphics
Where abouts are you currently training? Which gym?
by KJ Gould on Apr 9, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks KJ
Ya my website guys are rediculous… they do a bunch of athletes, celebs, music artists, ect.
TSMstudio.com
check ’em out. =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
BEN BABY WE LOVE YOU
much ♥ from the BE headed towards you!
We all can’t wait to see you rock folks in the cage again
¬_¬
by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ on Apr 9, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That was the most entertaining fight on the card
in my opinion. It was the only one that had me on the edge of my seat, and cringing every time another knee or elbow landed. I knew about you before, Ben, but this fight solidified my fandom. Keep on rockin those knees, my man. Beautiful.
Congrats on the victory, Ben.
But honestly speaking here, and I don’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade, but I don’t want to see an Askren/Saunders fight. I just don’t see how Saunders can win that fight, especially with Askren becoming a full time fighter and working with Duke Roufus.
by Tech Fall 171 on Apr 10, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Is that true?
Is he training with Duke Roufus?
If that’s true than he is in great hands over there. That is gonna up Askrens game big time! Also would be the perfect camp to utillize if he was preparing to fight me. That ups his playing field no doubt. But I have been also working on being very aggressive and crafty from my guard. Askren would have to worry while playing in it, but he would be a very tough test that I am actually really excited about. I wanna see if my improvements are where they should be. Against a wrestler like Askren that would be the ultimate test! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, just announced that he's moving camps
Hopefully when you fight him he’ll get cocky about his standup and you can light him up in the clinch.
"I can be friends with anybody. Man. Woman. Cat. Dog. Fish..... Alien." -Rampage
by Charles Awad on Apr 10, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you seen the video of him rolling with Marcelo Garcia?
by mictlantechutli on Apr 10, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a quality big name fight for you Ben. Where are you looking to go with your career as of now if you don’t mind me asking. Are you looking to get into a Bellator Tournament and perhaps try to win the right to fight Askren? Or are you planning on going to StrikeForce and taking on one of their guys? Or a potential SuperFight with Askren would be good as well…
by p123 on Apr 11, 2011 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right now...
I’m looking at one more showcase fight with Bellator and then The Welterweight Tournament they have going on in the Fall… I figure picking up potentially 5 wins before the end of the year on a televised card is a Great year! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you making long terms plans with Bellator right now?
Or are you aiming to make it back to ufc in the somewhat near future? I only ask because I was under the impression that Bellator’s champions clause was pretty tight.
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
by Chris Hall on Apr 11, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure... playing it as I go.
At the end of the day it comes down to money, for me and well my eventual family. We have only a short time to make enough to retire on. Currently I am under a year contract and have 2 showcase fights and the tournament possibly in the Fall. so 5 fights potentially on my roster for this year. I will see how this year goes and then take it from there. Bellator have been awesome to work with, complete professional, and treating me very well. So I guess we’ll just see what happens… =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the insight
Definitely hoping for the best for you man, and when I get some extra cash, I just may need a Killa B tshirt!
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
by Chris Hall on Apr 11, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
BUY ONE.... YOU KNOW YOU WANT TOO.....
Hahaha
Thanks Chris. If you can that’s awesome! If you can’t I still love ya and thanks for the support! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
You have got to keep this post up. I love checking back in and seeing Saunders respond to the readers.
Did you see the size of that chicken?
by Heenan on Apr 10, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I dig the BE layout!
I like how all this works… very cool!
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Killa B!!!!!1
Always been a fan since TUF. Had no clue you were on here. Congrats on the sweet W!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
Thanks Fenix
That’s awesome you remember me from then… crazy to think that was 3-4 years ago! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Literally one of my all time fav TUFS
One of the best all around casts of fighters. Jrock mocking Sera FTW! Lol I’ll always support you man because you bring it.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Apr 10, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll never understand why you didn't even get considered for the replacement fight.
the coaches just completely forgot about the giant, long ass reach, welterweight I guess.
Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.
Nick Diaz just beat Paul Daley at his own (and only) game.
by RolloTomasi on Apr 10, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Trust me I was contemplating it the whole time...
I was told that because my nose was broken I couldn’t get cleared to fight by the commission so I wasn’t allowed to fight. But I was just waiting for Dana to call me in and ask me… thought if that happened maybe he could pull some strings and make it happen. Unfortunately the opportunity never came. I contemplated walk into the back and walking into there room and asking him personally. Trust me… I feel I don’t have any regrets in life because everything has made me who I am today. I like who I am so it was all worth it. But if I had to regret something… it would be not making them put me back in even with a broken nose. I was getting used to breathing out of my mouth anyways… lol =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Congratulations on the win
you bring several things that MMA could use more of: Jeet Kune Do, brutal knees, and a giant crazy grin!
I consider myself a softcore fan.
by Thor77 on Apr 10, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
YESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL OF THE ABOVE!
HAHAHA
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
More flying knees Ben!
Talk about a scary sight.
A flying 6’3" WW with razor knees.
Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.
Nick Diaz just beat Paul Daley at his own (and only) game.
I used to do them more often....
Then I fought 2 dominant wrestlers…. LOL
Ohh… don’t you worry.. I’ma bring sexy back! & There is nothing more sexy than a vicios flying knee landing flush! lol
by Ben Saunders on Apr 10, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope as long as you keep up your wrestling training and winning fights the UFC will bring you back
I think you actually made Brandon Wolff’s head pregnant with those knees.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
by SSreporters on Apr 11, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol
Yessir… that’s the plan, and it is within my grasp… only time will tell how soon it happens. =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Mr Saunders
As a native Houstonian Mike Swick has been one of my favorite fighters to watch for some time now (At least when he was actually fighting) I was just curious about the verbal back and forth y’all had in your fight and what was said. Congratulations on the win and in all your future endeavors.
Ryan
The only thing that sucks worse than the O.K Sooners is my knowledge of MMA. I’m only a member of this site because A.K lets me be one. And for that, I am thankful.
Has a sig bet with Californication for Wiman/Siver at UFC 132
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Apr 11, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Swick (on top) "You gonna hold me all night?"
Ben (holding tight guard) “We can stand it up bitch.”
Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.
Why don't we stand back up then... Bitch!
Hahaha ya that was probably my weirdest fight to date. I wasn’t in the zone, had injuries, got sick, had bad jet lag, Germany is only night for like 4 hours a day and me and Swick were a swing bout and we had to warm up like 3-4 different times. It was all a frustrating yet very very necessary experience to learn from. It has helped me become a better fighter and more intelligent all around. =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Thank You Mr. Saunders.
I was curious, I almost wish they would do highlights “Miked Up” like they do for the NFL.
The only thing that sucks worse than the O.K Sooners is my knowledge of MMA. I’m only a member of this site because A.K lets me be one. And for that, I am thankful.
Has a sig bet with Californication for Wiman/Siver at UFC 132
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Apr 12, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Great fight the other night Killa B!!!
It almost got a little hard to watch the beating towards the end but I was impressed with your performance once again. What a tough SOB!!! Anyways, great fight and keep up the posts… always nice to hear from a fighter especially when he is a down to earth cool dude like yourself, Cheers to you sir!
MauiPimpin is a str8 up PIMP!
Thanks 4 the support homie! Much appreciated! =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I co-own an MMA gym so if you're ever on Maui come by and roll. (MauiMartialArts.com)
We have a pretty nasty muay thai instructor too.
by Brandon Starr on Apr 11, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
this was mentioned above...
I agree Hornbuckle has so much talent that the matchup would be exciting for all the fans for sure. But he is my teammate so unless the money is good enough where we both would agree(which would be more than Bellator would be willing to pay i’m sure.) or it was for the Title. There is no real reason for us to fight. =)
by Ben Saunders on Apr 11, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
My Bad
I didn’t realize you guys were teammates, maybe a fight with Wallhead or Lozano would be in order.
by Skyscraperfan on Apr 11, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Ben...
the knees are ridiculous…it just seems like you’re thinking “How hard would I hafta throw it to chop down a tree in one strike?”….over, and over, and over.
Looks like I’ll be snaggin me a KB shirt next payday, really diggin em. Props for keepin it real and engaging this community the way you have Killa B.
- Greg
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