Judo Chop: The Boxing and Jiu Jitsu of Nick Diaz
Strikeforce welterweight champion brings an unusual skill set to MMA. He's a top-notch grappler with an excellent Brazilian Jiu Jitsu pedigree courtesy of his coach Cesar Gracie. He's also developed an unusual, but effective, high-volume punching style for MMA.
Challenger Paul Daley's dangerous Muay Thai game will put Diaz to the test. Daley has struggled with wrestlers in the past, but he's rarely lost in a fight that stayed on the feet. On the other hand, Diaz is a dangerous submission artist and if the fight goes to the ground, Daley will be in deep trouble.
We've discussed Diaz' technique in two prior Judo Chops:
In the full entry we'll look at some animated gifs from those Judo Chops.
SBN coverage of Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Daley
Here's a little bit from the Gogoplata piece with BE grappling editor K.J. Gould breaking down the unusual submission:
From K.J. Gould:
Gomi parries a jab and ducks alooping cross to shoot a double and continues driving off the ground as Diaz tries to stop it but Gomi manages to finish it.
But, Gomi makes the cardinal sin of submission grappling and that's leaving a hand or arm on the ground when inside someone's guard. Worse still he kept his head up allowing Diaz on flexibility alone to pull his leg in front of his head and wedge his shin under his throat. With a clinch like grip on top and bringing is other leg over Diaz locks the choke in place and Gomi not knowing how to defend taps out.
There are ways of countering the gogoplata (by the way, it's named that because 'gogo' in Portuguese refers to the throat or front part of the throat). If it's on, a common first line of defense is to simply turn your head and have the chin against your jaw. Also stacking the bottom guy and pivoting away while limp-arming your trapped arm and pulling it free where you could work on a pass, or if you're inventive apply a form of toehold.
Before it even clears your head, either put your head on the chest or tripod your head on the floor so there is now a barrier stopping the leg from coming over. With the tripod it allows you to pivot again and limp-arm out. Or if he doesn't have your posture fully locked down posture up.
Here's a look at Diaz' boxing from the second piece:
Here's CompuStrike talking about Diaz' performance vs Smith: Nick Diaz will never be accused of not letting his hands go. Diaz broke his previous CompuStrike record for total strikes thrown in a round (181) when he unloaded 221 in the second round vs. Scott Smith enroute to a third round submission win. More importantly, Diaz landed a CompuStrike record 125 total strikes in that second round (57%), shattering Michael Bisping's record of 105 landed in the first round of his ko win over Elvis Sinosic. 117 of Diaz's total strikes landed were arm strikes (56%), another CompuStrike record. He also attempted a CompuStrike record 210 arm strikes in the round. Diaz outlanded Smith 125-15 in total strikes in round two.
On the left we see Diaz boxing up Scott Smith in their June 2009 fight. Note how Smith ducks and covers to avoid the barrage of hooks but that just leaves him more exposed as Diaz deftly mixes hooks to the head with shots to the body. None of the punches are kill shots on their own, but the cumulative damage is obvious and palpable.
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Diaz landed 25 total strikes per minute in the second round vs. Smith, throwing 44 total strikes per minute. Gannon landed 33 punches per minute vs. White, while Phillips threw an amazing 79 punches per minute vs. Oliveira.
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stop teasing me you bastards
I cant wait for this fight either
If you wanna throw down in fisticuffs, fine! I've got Jack Johnson and Tom O'Leary waitin' for ya...right here!
We've seen and heard enough of Diaz.
Can we have a chop of Semtex already? In particular his left hook (obviously), jab and footwork. All of which are stellar.
forget Daley that disrespectful embarassment.
At least diaz is funny and likable.
by psuwrestler99 on Apr 8, 2011 12:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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by Cory Braiterman on Apr 8, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think one was done right after the Hazlett fight
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sorry
would love to have gotten to it but i’m bad at planning ahead and the time got away from me. I made some perfunctory efforts to get some help with his footwork but didn’t get it done. my bad.
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That combo on Scott Smith is very similar to a combo from round 1 of the Cyborg fight. Against the fence, hitting the body multiple times and then finishing with a short hook up top.
Also the Cyborg fight showed that Nick DIaz’s leg kick defense is seemingly just to grimace and try to return with some hand strikes.
His boxing defense isn’t that great either. Very good offensive boxer who’s willing to take one to give ten. Works for him, though.
Nope.
I know it’s the opposite of the cliche, but Nick has a tendency to take a big shot to deliver 10 small ones, then get out. That’s fine against Marius Zaromskis, but probably not against Daley.
hate to be "that guy"
but a lot of daley fans can’t even spell his name
by Franklin Goodish on Apr 8, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone remember the fanpost made talking about how Nick’s “pitter patter” style was very similar to olden day’s bareknuckle boxing? That comparison was really interesting.
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by Austin Martin on Apr 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I've never seen that,
but from what I know of the old bareknuckle days it doesn’t make much sense to me. Nick’s a high-volume guy, which is pretty much the opposite of how the bareknuckle guys did it. The reason they used to go 50+ rounds sometimes is because they’d usually only throw a handful of punches per round.
I think I said before
…that Diaz’ boxing reminds me of (a slightly less sophisticated) Joe Calzhage. Overwhelm you with volume, then drop a big right. Repeat until you’re confused, and then cooked.
by CaptainArmbar on Apr 8, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Michael Nunn
6’2" southpaw. Lanky and tough. He would leave his hands down and just kinda flick these ‘pitter patter’ punches until you dropped.
Diaz, at his best, basically looks like a guy doing a Michael Nunn impersonation
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That’s why everyone was SHOCKED when Nunn dumped Kalambay on his ass in the first round. That fight was crazy.
by Franklin Goodish on Apr 8, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Like Nick and Robbie Lawlor
How awesome would it be if he one punch KO’d Daley?
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Except
Nunn had great head movement. That’s probably the #1 problem with Nick’s striking.
by POW on Apr 8, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
There’s a great gif of Nunn’s defense.
I tried to post it but couldn’t.
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/749173/michael-nunn-defense.html
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Pitter Patter style aka Angry Badger Attack
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Can't Recall Exactly
by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Apr 8, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
F*ck this phone
Anyways,
It was after the second Noons fight, somebody compared them both to old bare hands styles. I agree, very interesting. Hopefully somebody less lazy than me will find it and link accordingly.
by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Apr 8, 2011 1:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You are probably recalling a comment of mine in the aftermath of the Diaz-Noons fight and not a fanpost. The observation was that Diaz style of boxing resembled some of the techniques used in old London Prizefighting ("bareknuckle") matches. Now I doubt he and Gracie went out and studied old Jem Mace fights but because grappling played a part in those fights (clinching and throwing your opponent to the ground was a big part of the game, and many fighters depended more on a good wrestling game than their striking ability. If one looks at Ed James’s 1878 The Science of Boxing half the techniques shown are headlocks, throws, and trips.) and Diaz doesn’t have thunderous power they have stumbled into a style for him that greatly resembles the proven techniques of yore.
Jean Joseph-Renaud an amazing pioneer in martial arts and specifically Defense Dans La Rue (I’ll have an fanpost on it in a couple of days) at the beginning of the 20th century described what bareknuckle fighting entailed.
Formerly, in England, when fights took place without gloves, they lasted immensely longer. While the combatants employed wrestling techniques and threw each other to the ground with great force, perhaps five or six times each quarter of an hour, they were still at least as vigorous of those of today. They ought to have finished very quickly and yet their fights always lasted a long time; they most commonly ended because one of the adversaries was exhausted rather than beaten.
Prizefighters fought this way because they didn’t have gloves to protect their hands and because the rules allowed for grappling and throwing each other to the ground, often incorporating Devonshire, Cumberland, and Westmorland style wrestling. A new round started any time a fighter was knocked down and went to his knee, he was then given a 50-count to get back up and begin again. Because there is a time limit in mma Diaz has sped up the pace.
Joseph-Renaud also described a type of fighter who stood outside and threw straights but without all his power so as to not to break his hand (even describing one type of punch as a "slap" and considering it effective), unlike the in-fighting that glove boxing developed. This slap fighter wouldn’t lung so at to leave himself open to be grappled and would throw repetitive straights from the outside to the head and, more importantly, the body of his opponent. The goal with this style of scientific boxing was to wear down your opponent until they collapsed from cumulative damage and exhaustion. Sound familiar?
IF one gets a chance they should read Henry Downes Miles (Coiner of the phrase “The Sweat Science of Bruising”) and his Pugilistica, detailed accounts of boxing matches in the early part of the 19th century.
And while I think Diaz fights a lot like Michael Nunn – and perhaps based his style on the same sources as Nunn – the modifications they’ve made to make it work in MMA have resulted in something that resembles something from old prizefighting: less upper body movement, less slipping and ducking, less lunging from the outside, less dancing. All the stuff that Nunn uses but could put you in a bad spot where grappling is allowed as it is in MMA – and London Prizefighting.
by John Nash on Apr 8, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Excellent, excellent post.
less upper body movement, less slipping and ducking, less lunging from the outside, less dancing. All the stuff that Nunn uses but could put you in a bad spot
In his DVD Boxing for MMA, Anderson preaches barely moving your head at all. Instead of the classic boxing technique of bending at the knees and waist simultaneously to duck a punch, Anderson says to lean the head and use a slight bend at the knee. Otherwise, you’ll duck into a head kick or knee.
Lunging in or planting too hard with your lead foot can will make your lead leg to rigid to take kicks. I think that’s a big reason we don’t see more fighters with a powerful or lunging jab.
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Sooo excite for fight!
You guys gotta chill out with these scouting reports and Judo Chops.. I can’t keep up on the schedule I’m on
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Great article
Great post Kid Nate. I love the analysis and original thinking. I am sure I will see the same post copied on MMA Junkie and MMA Fighting in 10 minutes after they read it and copy paste it. Got me more excited for the fight!
I hid the whole Friday thread
stick to the topic gentlemen. we come here to talk MMA technique not horrible nonsense from the interwebs. And I happen to think ARK are genius.
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So what happened
to that whole tangent on Friday that was going on here? Certainly offtopic, but I don’t recall seeing anything offensive (other than the song itself).
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