TUF 13: Len Bentley Calls Brock Lesnar an 'A-Hole' and 'Turd'
by Josh Nason on Apr 21, 2011 1:14 AM EDT
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At the end of Wednesday's The Ultimate Fighter episode, Brock Lesnar team member Len Bentley stormed out of the locker room as Lesnar derided the group for what he perceived as not caring about training, fighting or winning. Bentley didn't want to hear what Lesnar had to say and in scenes from next week's episode, he rants a bit more on the former UFC Heavyweight Champion.
Not wasting any time, Bentley had some choice words about Lesnar in his weekly post-TUF blog for MMA Diehards after the show had aired.
From the post:
"It was extremely quiet while Brock was lecturing us. Brock went off on Clay because he thought Clay wasn’t listening to him while he was asking the other coach a question about the fight. Then Brock started ranting that we are all walking around here all high and mighty or something to that effect. That’s when he rattled off the cities we are from.
When he got to Seattle, I was pissed. This a-hole is saying I’m chicken sh*t and I am walking around all high and mighty when this turd didn’t even show up for my fight and hadn’t even taken the time to watch it when he got back."
Bentley also addressed why he wasn't excited to see Matt Hughes stop by to work with Team Lesnar:
"While the other guys might have been excited about the special guest Brock brought in — none other than Matt Hughes — all I could do was shake my head and laugh. Hughes is probably the one cause guy i really didn’t want to see.
My training partner, Dennis Hallman, is the only man to beat Hughes twice and never suffered a loss to him. Because Hughes talked some trash about Dennis in his book, I’m really not a fan. You did not see much of me during that segment."
Bentley will appear on MMA Diehards Radio Thursday to talk more about the experience.
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he talks alot of shit
He did put up a good fight… but not enough to win the fight
by rscott94 on Apr 21, 2011 12:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
It was really good fight
And he prolly has reason to be upset. But not wanting to train with Hughes because of what he said in his book is ridiculous. The guy is a rookie and there’s no way Matt doesn’t have a hell of a lot to teach him.
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
He does have a reason to be upset but he needs to stop complaining...
Shit if i was there i would be thankful to train with Nik Lentz i wouldnt complain at all..
by rscott94 on Apr 21, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely
There’s certain fighters I don’t like in the UFC (I’m looking at you Chael) but if I ever got even an hour to train with them. I would fucking eat it up.
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
by Chris Hall on Apr 21, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You guys hit the nail on the head
Also I don’t get why these guys would be pissed at Brock, I know he’s not much for motivational speeches but unless it’s all Zuffa marketing Brock seems to be trying to do the best job he can. Also I was very impressed with Nick Ring Ramsey last night. Dude wanted to win, wish I could say the same about Raider he seems like a nice enough guy.
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Has a sig bet with Californication for Wiman/Siver at UFC 132
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Apr 21, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
A lot of name calling coming from a guy giving Brock a run for his money in the most horriblest MMA tattoo competition.
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
And a runner up in M-1’s Challenge too.
Ugarte: You despise me, don't you?
Rick: If I gave you any thought I probably would.
by memitim on Apr 21, 2011 1:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And a keyboard warrior talking shit about pro fighters…oh wait.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
I've trained with pro fighters, including TUF guys.
Am I allowed to talk all the shit I want?
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
As long as you’re not smearing someone’s achievements when you can’t do them yourself, talk all the shit you want. There’s no shame in being a runner-up to M-1 challenge nor is there shame in losing to McKenzie.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
The guys were not very good MMA fighters.
Just being honest. Glad you’re policing the internets for all those guys though. Have you trained with pros? Is that why you feel entitled to say nobody can speak poorly of them?
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
by pdl on Apr 21, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
You asked my opinion and I gave it to you. Not policing shit. And whether or not I trained with pros has nothing to do with this (I have).
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
fortunately
one need not actually participate in an activity in order to evaluate someone’s worth in it. Otherwise we’d have no divisive issues in politics; movie, book and restaurant critics would all be unemployed and the entire profession of non-fiction writing would cease to exist.
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by Cory Braiterman on Apr 21, 2011 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
victory
you, sir, win this branch
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Apr 21, 2011 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
You are a shitty commenter. pdl is a great one. How can you tell him whether he’s making worthwhile comments until you spend some time working subject-verb agreement with smoogy2 or Steve4192?
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 21, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. I should consider adding this to my resume: ‘shittiest commentator’ award by Snowden. I could say the same about your articles but I’m not, because I know they are your opinions. I may disagree with them but I respect them. Maybe you can extend me that same courtesy. Have a nice day.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
Sorry boss.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
What a fantastic example of the 2011 “Everyone gets a medal” mentality. So if I think a TV show is garbage, despite not knowing how to direct one myself, I’m supposed to just sit there and watch it? No. I’m going to pick up the remote, announce that this show sucks balls, and change the channel.
I’m going to pick up the remote, announce that this show sucks balls, and change the channel.
Which is what is happening with a lot of people this season. Good grief I was happy to see Brock was going to rant next episode because this season is boring me to tears.
Personally,
Brock’s rants on painted toenails being disgraceful, and then about chicken shit after the fight brought the lulz.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 21, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
It hasn't been full of drama or anything and they had to resort to showing footage of a man doing his best Chilie Peppers impersonation for filler this week.
But, I’m starting to warm up to Brock (I never was very fond of him as a fighter or as a personality) and Junior seems like the coolest dude ever.
The only thing that sucks worse than the O.K Sooners is my knowledge of MMA. I’m only a member of this site because A.K lets me be one. And for that, I am thankful.
Has a sig bet with Californication for Wiman/Siver at UFC 132
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Apr 21, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't stack plastic cups super-fast
But I am gonna smear the fuck out of those peopl who spend time learning how to excel at competitive cup-stacking.
BOOSH
They are called ‘cup-stacking athletes’ and they are very dedicated to their sport.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
by andrew861 on Apr 21, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you hear that sound? That was the point going way over your head.
Ugarte: You despise me, don't you?
Rick: If I gave you any thought I probably would.
by memitim on Apr 21, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Know what, these pro fighters are expecting me to pay my money to watch them fight thus I personally feel free to talk about their performances and accomplishments. Without fans there is no professional sport and being as this is a product being sold to fans then fan opinions are more important than just “keyboard warrior talking shit”.
Do it MDH
We haven’t seen some high quality tattoo hate from you in a while. Make it happen.
Do you wanna be a fuckin Hater???
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
This.
This, this, fucking this all over.
What is that? Like, inverse tribal? Congratulations, you figured out a way to make tribal tattoos even shittier.
by Sergio Hernandez on Apr 21, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
It looks like he tried to be Tim Commerford from RATM and gave up about halfway through.
It is kind of like an inverse Gleison Tibau tattoo.
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Apr 21, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Timmy C/...
tim2K can have that awful sleeve simply because he’s in Rage.
Everyone else can GTFO.
by Sergio Hernandez on Apr 21, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Lets be fair.
that crappy tattoo is not even in the running against Lesnars veiny cock sword tattoo. Not the same league. Not even the same sport.
Brock Lesnar being Brock Lesnar?
STOP THE F---ING PRESSES, PEOPLE.
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by McKinley B. Noble on Apr 21, 2011 1:22 AM EDT reply actions
I haven't watched much of TUF,
but wasn’t the chicken shit a ‘metaphor’ in Lesnar’s motivational speech? and this dude took it as an insult? Weird.
He referred to the teams victory as making chicken salad out of chicken shit I believe. The fighters being the chicken shit. Twas amusing.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
yeah,
but isn’t that a way to motivate them, and not insult them? I guess this guy took it the wrong way. #shrugs
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 21, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
There are plenty of ways to motivate people without calling them ‘chicken shit’, metaphorically or not.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
True
…but, if the guy is offended that easily and scoffed at an opportunity to roll with Hughes he really doesn’t belong in the UFC.
Now that I think about it, this season’s contestants seem to have even less talent than previous seasons’…I haven’t been impressed by any of the fighters. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
That beast we saw in the first fight was pretty good with his top control. Although it appeared he had about 30 lbs on the guy he was fighting.
by Spider_Vemon on Apr 21, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He called them chicken shit last night and not in a motivational way
by Papercut Elbow on Apr 21, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I really the only guy on Len’s side?
He’s right, Brock’s been a prick the whole season.
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by T.C. Engel on Apr 21, 2011 1:35 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
this isn't makinbg the band
its the ultimate fighter lol.You have to expect some sort of ass chewing when your team is loosing.
to be fair
making the band 1 had some pretty decent fights XD
by mikeI981j on Apr 21, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well watch what happened when JDS’ team lost the one time. There was no freak outs except for by Coach Polley, and JDS told him to shut up, look how his team responded. Brock isn’t a hundredth of the coach JDS is.
"Rather than love, than money, than faith, than fame, than fairness... give me truth."
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1968-1992
by T.C. Engel on Apr 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He lost me
When he started complaining about not wanting to train with one of the most dominant men from his division.
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
Yes you are.
Stop whining and start winning, Len.
Matt Hughes, this guy wants to take his career seriously and make a future for himself. However, when you, one of the greatest welterweights of all time shows up to train him he turns his nose up and blows you off. What do you think?
"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard
by Earl Montclair on Apr 21, 2011 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 16 recs
yeah,
“While the other guys might have been excited about the special guest Brock brought in — none other than Matt Hughes — all I could do was shake my head and laugh. Hughes is probably the one cause guy i really didn’t want to see.
My training partner, Dennis Hallman, is the only man to beat Hughes twice and never suffered a loss to him. Because Hughes talked some trash about Dennis in his book, I’m really not a fan. You did not see much of me during that segment."
“My training partner beat him, so I’m 100% sure I won’t be able to learn anything from him anymore” - Winning attitude right there.
No use trying to help this guy.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 21, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
This exactly
What a whiny kid, Matt Hughes has done everything that kid can hope to accomplish and more. He is even in the same weight class as him, so Matt Hughes knows exactly what it takes to get to the top of his division. But you chose to go with Hallman’s wins over Matt Hughes before he fought in the UFC? Weird kid, not smart
Unreal.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 21, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
when the TV network picks a guy like Bentley over this guy
you know it would be hard to take the show too seriously.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 21, 2011 2:06 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
I think they’re trying to avoid another Mac Danzig shut out season. Galvao would school everyone in the house.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
If so, maybe they would learn a few tricks from him and be more motivated to emulate him
But as it is, if they are all of the same mediocre skill level, they all think they are hot shit. If Brock’s chewing them out for not being keen on training and winning, there’s probably a good reason for it.
Yeah,
I don’t know what the fuck was going on with that guy, but he insta- tapped to the rear naked choke. And to me, it looked like he just completely gave it away.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 21, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
They showed him with the doctor briefly, he might have torn something in his shoulder.
"Rather than love, than money, than faith, than fame, than fairness... give me truth."
Chris McCandless A.K.A. Alexander Supertramp
1968-1992
If that was the case,
he should’ve just waved it off instead of putting himself into a rear naked choke. Not that it’s a big deal or anything, though.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 21, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha.
Off topic here, but I just watched the Riddle/ Pierson fight for free on the UFC website, and that fight was cracking me up. Fucking Matt Riddle shadowboxing the whole time while Pierson is slipping every punch and busting him up with jabs. That match got fight of the night for all the wrong reasons, but I can’t seem to think of any kind of counterargument to suggest that the fight wasn’t awesome.
Xtreme Couture- The best never rest!
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 24, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just waiting for the FW and BW seasons,
at least there, the talent pool wouldn’t be as drained as this one… but yeah, even then, I’m still not expecting much as some of the more talented dudes aren’t TV friendly.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 21, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Better to have a couple stars than one superstar.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
None of the guys on this season are going to be stars in the UFC (or even have “careers” in the UFC the way things are looking).
I would agree with you but we’re talking from the standpoint of the show’s producers.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
At least three of the producers should be worried about quality of fighters going into the UFC:
Rob DorfmannProducer.
Craig PiligianExecutive Producer.
Ralph WikkeCo-Executive Producer.
Mitch RosaSupervising Producer.
Sean PerezSupervising Producer.
Wayne SampsonSenior Producer.
Lance AsherProducer.
Scott CooperProducer.
Glenn CarranoProducer.
Jared BushanskyProducer.
Rambo MendozaSegment Producer.
Kristine RaiaAssociate Producer.
Jennifer BastableAssociate Producer.
Amanda RossAssociate Producer.
Brooks ElmsAssociate Producer.
Dustin NicholasProducer.
Jeff SellsSupervising Producer.
Arthur R CarlsonSegment Producer.
Tennessee EdwardsSegment Producer.
Craig BorsariSupervising Producer.
Jamie CampioneSupervising Producer.
Robert RiesenbergExecutive Producer.
Frank FertittaExecutive Producer.
Lorenzo FertittaExecutive Producer.
Dana WhiteExecutive Producer.
Kevin KayExecutive Producer (Spike TV).
Andreas RichterCo-Executive Producer.
Brian J DiamondCo-Executive Producer (Spike TV).
Tom GreenhutProducer.
Mark Groves SeligaProducer.
Dax DobbsProducer.
Mark L MarinaccioProducer.
Mark KrickAssociate Producer.
Brian PargacAssociate Producer.
Brian ZirbelAssociate Producer.
Jamie Campionesenior Producer.
Mark KrickProducer.
Zosimo MaximoProducer.
Paulette TerryProducer.
Bruce ConnalProducer.
Al ConnalProducer.
Katie WellsProducer.
Lewis MassollProducer.
Matt HobinProducer.
Rick LaPorteProducer.
Ashley SingerProducer.
Cole HooperProducer.
Gary DefrancoProducer.
John GunnProducer.
Crystal FarrellAssociate Producer.
Lewis MassollAssociate Producer.
Cole HooperAssociate Producer.
Cody ChristiansenAssociate Producer.
Matt HalvorsonAssociate Producer.
Wendell SmithAssociate Producer.
Kenny BrowderAssociate Producer
Yep, and the others don’t give a damn. My point exactly.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
Yea but the three that do care own the company and are there picking out the fighters that get on the show too. If they wanted someone who can make waves in the UFC on the show then they would make it happen (although those other guys may film him eating a turd sandwich or dancing naked around the house and edit so he comes off as crazy).
all those people have the title "producer"?
The fuck is that shit? never seen anything like that. no wonder they can’t get their shit straight with this damn show anymore
live pleasant
by eastcoastatlas on Apr 21, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I almost think Myles Jury was on the show to beat the shit out of everyone and look like a badass.
He’s so much better than most of these scrubs.
I don't think anyone who loses has any right to say anything
No one does care enough. Watching the fights just pisses me off because there is so much that could be done that they don’t do. These arent people who can be in the UFC. If Dana put a fighter in like this on a card we would all demand our money back.
Len vs Matt Hughes next week? I got Hughes by TKO first round
You mean because somebody is better at the same profession as him
he’s not entitled to say anything, much less an opinion about matters mostly unrelated to it?
For fucks sake, these are real people who have feelings, emotions, and opinions like everybody else. Can MMA fans not understand that?
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Yeah but you still need to understand where you are and be realistic
If I’m a lower level minor league baseball player and I’m 28 and still there clearly I’m not that great.
I feel Brock is trying to give them a reality check so they start working harder. The show does make them seem like they think they are these amazing fighters when they aren’t. I think Brock wants them to understand how good they actually are so they realize if they want to be UFC quality they need to work a hell of a lot harder.
That's not what you said.
I don’t think anyone who loses has any right to say anything
That’s what you said, and that’s a really dumb statement if you believe it.
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Could these guys bitch and complain anymore? I’m glad that haven’t been to basic training of any branch because there would be tears the first week.
"So he basically called me a Jew. I was confused because I'm black and Methodist."
You say this as if any person in the service trains harder than professional fighters.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
I believe he isn’t talking about how physically hard it is. I believe he means if they cannot handle what Brock is saying about them, the abuse from a drill sergeant in in basic would have them crying for their mommas.
Bingo
It’s the same basic idea: TUF and basic training. Seclude the person, take them away from their comfort, family and try to break them mentally and physically. It turns boys to men. Bit then u got people crying saying this is too tough, I miss my daughter, Omg he called me chicken shit. It’s kinda comical
"So he basically called me a Jew. I was confused because I'm black and Methodist."
by rocket8188 on Apr 21, 2011 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Greatest/Worst things my drill instructor ever told me
Does dick fall from the sky? No? Then shut your goddamn mouth
I want you to be tight, like four year old pussy tight. And I know all your boys are down for that right?
by DarthKitty on Apr 21, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those are two
of the most fucked up and hilarious things i’ve ever read
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
I know
That’s why I titled it Greatest/Worst
Fun fact:
Len Bentley was a member of the U.S. Army.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
Assholes & Turds?
What’s this guy thinking about?
Yeah! I mean, is he 5 years old or something?
by kaptenstofil on Apr 21, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions
wow didnt know fighters could BAWW and moan this brutally
fucking respect Matt Hughes, hes done way more than Hallman ever did and he is the type of coach you should be listening from considering your gassage in the 2nd round
and honestly, Brock is Brock, he does try to do his best and he has a sincere approach to things, his personal life comes first and hes always stuck by that motto.
Kid should focus on his cardio rather than waste it whining.
Awesome.
Guy talks crap about the greatest WW of all time as well as a man who won the HW title in his forth pro fight. Kids these days.
by pud333 on Apr 21, 2011 2:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
He talked shit about GSP? When?
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Apr 21, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I think a lot of people here are focusing on the Matt Hughes bit but this part remains true:
This a-hole is saying I’m chicken sh*t and I am walking around all high and mighty when this turd didn’t even show up for my fight and hadn’t even taken the time to watch it when he got back.
He could’ve chosen his words better but Lesnar skipped out on his fight (albeit for personal reasons), and without watching the fight (Bentley fought his heart out), he called out Bentley and even went so far to say ‘he took the wind out of his sails’. Seems like an asshole move to me.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
by andrew861 on Apr 21, 2011 2:33 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Whoa a smart person? Not too many of these around!
agreed.
People who don't have the patience for the technical aspect of MMA should think about getting into another sport. THIS ONE requires BRAINS.
by i_am_awesome_o on Apr 21, 2011 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions
‘he took the wind out of his sails
What do you think this means? I’m not sure that you understand; it simply means that Brock was upset to hear that Len had lost, and I fail to see how that makes Brock an asshole.
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by Drunken cutman on Apr 21, 2011 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Andrew is the thread Brock hater and fighter defender, take everything he says with a grain of salt.
Thanks for your contribution to the thread Hutchy. Its true, Brock was upset to hear that Len lost but to say ‘he took the wind out of his sails’ without giving the fighter the proper attention he deserves is nothing short of bad coaching and to me, an asshole move. That my take on it.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
Doesn't seem like a big deal
It’s not like I ever expected Brock Lesnar to be the warm and cuddly type.
I bet
he won’t turning a brown eye any time soon. He is going to be very anal about this. Sphincter.
Loser? How many beers can YOU drink?
by Snipes on Apr 21, 2011 2:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Len Bentley looks and acts like a cheap knockoff of Ed Herman’s time on TUF.
by BrothaDarkness on Apr 21, 2011 3:01 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Am I the only that thinks the fighters are too sensitive?
Brocks got a very good attitude in that respect.
Yea, Im chicken shit. You know why? Cuz I aint the best! You know what? Im gonna m’fucking change that. Im gonna train, eat, sleep, train till I’m the best.
This guy is a .........
TOOL! He’s acts like he"s so good. If you"re so good buddy why are you on the UF?
Is it just me...
Or do about 11 of the 14 guys on this seasons show seem like bitches? I mean they cant handle criticism at all. If they trained where I did they’d get upset and walk out after the first day. I mean hell they complain about every fucking thing. So he called you chicken shit? Boo hoo I get called worse on a daily basis by people not trying to help me improve. And then on top of that they are all turning on the only guy on their team to win a fucking match? Whatever I hope Brock rips Len a new asshole by seasons end.
Len is a douche
When Brock returned to the gym one of the first things he did was approach Len and acknowledge that he had heard Len really fought hard and fell short. When Len had his tantrum Brock said, “good for you, Len” again showing support that Len fought his ass off unlike his teammates. Conclusion: Len is a douche.
by omt23 on Apr 21, 2011 8:29 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
"Good for you"
is generally used as a sarcastic, backhanded compliment, but I do think Len was being a drama queen, and trying to make things about himself.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 21, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
"chicken shit"
is generally not a motivating term, so its possible that Brock was showing support for Len sticking up for himself.
It was hard to tell, though.
by CaptnAmerca on Apr 21, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Hah.
That “chicken shit” meme is getting so overused by Brock that it just makes me laugh harder every time he says it.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 21, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
If it keeps making Len & Co. look like bitches, then I’m all for keeping it.
by CaptnAmerca on Apr 21, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
On an unrelated side note,
how ugly are those jerseys? I don’t know what it is, but they just don’t look good at all.
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-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 21, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock's actually boring and annoying me with that.
It makes him look uncreative. Surely he can come up with something different to say? It’s the same thing every week.
For some reason
that just makes it funnier to me.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 24, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus H Tapdancing Christ on a cracker
Brock is using a backwoods idiom, he isn’t actually calling them chicken shit he’s just telling them to make the best of what they got (which these guys are showing this season isn’t much). If Brock said “If you can’t run with the big dogs, you’d better stay on the porch” and they thought he was actually calling them dogs we would all think they were idiots, it’s just that Brock drug this idiom off a farm somewhere and for some reason it seems to be the only saying he knows. Maybe later in the season he will take someone to the woodshed or make a mountain out of a molehill.
To be honest,
these guys don’t want to be called “chicken shit”, but in the grand scheme of things… that’s what they are. Compared to the elite fighters in the 170 lb. division, these guys aren’t any more than chicken shit. Can they get better, and attain the coveted rank of “chicken salad”? Maybe. I think some of these guys have potential (although 2 of the guys I thought had the most upside have left the competition).
That Ramsey guy, although he doesn’t look like a real offensive dynamo, actually did a good job of finishing his takedowns, and looks to have a decent pressure clinch game.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 21, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
From Anthony Ferguson's TUF blog\recap:
After the fight was over they showed coach Lesnar throwing the stool into the cage after Charlie lost. I believe Dana White is right. It does show Brock cares. He wants to win, badly. Nothing that happened on the show told me he didn’t take his job seriously. Throwing a stool maybe isn’t the most professional thing ever, but so what? I liked that Brock cared. That’s what mattered most to me.
As for Brock’s speech after Charlie lost, it was tough love. He wasn’t being nice, but he wasn’t trying to be. He didn’t have to be. He was tryin to get us fired up. He wanted us to take winning seriously. Everyone saw Len Bentley walk out of the room after the ass chewing was in full swing. Len is a great fighter and a tough guy, but he’s sensitive, too. Maybe the emotions were raw from losing his fight, but I didn’t have any problem with what coach Lesnar said. I don’t think Len takes criticism as well as others might.
Yep.
I’m about as far away from being a Dana White or Brock Lesnar apologist, but they were both 100% right last night.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 21, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I don't think its possible to tap faster than dude did last nite
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
He seriously just GAVE him his neck.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 21, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Just my take
Judging just by the brief view of the look on Brock’s face and his tone of voice, it didn’t SEEM that he was being sarcastic. I think Brock realised Len had actually fought his heart out and so he tried to be supportive. The “good for you” was in response to Len saying he fought his heart out, rather than the “I don’t need to listen to this”.
But of course, Len took it the worst possible way and thinks Brock is a sarcastic prick. Who knows, really. I think Brock’s “chicken shit” comments are repetitive and demoralising, but the fighters shouldn’t go all primadonna.
It didn't sound very sincere to me.
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-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 25, 2011 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Think of the military.
Anyone been in the military? How was basic? You are “chicken shit” next to real soldiers.
This guy is one of those guys that would shoot himself in the leg to get out of basic training, a place that is rough, but ultimately has great goals for you.
Ignoring Hughes would be equivalent to ignoring a CO who has already served several tours simply because your buddy scored higher on the firing range.
Nice tattoo!
I like to float.
Fun fact:
Len Bentley was a member of the U.S. Army.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
Out of interest
Do you have a source for that?
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by Drunken cutman on Apr 21, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure. Its not hard to find.
http://www.ultimatefighter.com/fighter/len-bentley
After graduation, Bentley joined the military and served as an Infantryman in the United States Army for six years, including multiple tours in Iraq.
"Referees, be sure to step in and stop the fight on time tomorrow, because I might get carried away in the moment and my many punches may end up destroying my opponent." - Tatsuya "CRUSHER" Kawajiri
I would expect more mental resolve
from someone with those credentials. Len had (and apparently still has) a pretty shitty attitude about the whole situation. He seems to think he is beyond reproach, and almost has an air of arrogance. But I don’t see it justified.
by Kungfucious on Apr 22, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair,
he did fight hard, and it was pretty dickish of Lesnar to aim those comments at everyone, considering that he didn’t even show up for Bentley’s fight.
Len is definitely being a diva, but so is Lesnar.
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"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Apr 23, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
True
But the roles here are coach and coached. As a competitor, I don’t think I would want my coach being OK with losing. And seeing as how he wasn’t directing anything at Len directly (other than the stupid naming of the cities), Len just comes off as a punk when he pouts and storms off.
The blog from Anthony Ferguson detailed how I thought the situation would be viewed by those with stout hearts— it was tough love, and it was necessary.
Let’s no forget they are getting the tamed version of Brock, here. If he were still dissing Bud Light and flipping off fans, how much worse would his rants be after a loss? I don’t know about you, but “chicken shit” doesn’t exactly get my feathers ruffled.
If I had just fought my ass off and was getting berated after it by a guy who didn't even show my feathers would be pretty ruffed.
If I had just fought my ass off and was getting berated by a coach who didn’t even show, my feathers would be pretty ruffed.
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