Chael Sonnen's Hearing With the NSAC Postponed
by Mike Fagan on Apr 20, 2011 5:00 PM EDT
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Earlier this month, Chael Sonnen met with Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Chair Keith Kizer and Zuffa brass to discuss Sonnen's comments about a conversation he claimed to have with Kizer with regards to his use of testosterone and his application for a cornerman's license to coach on the next season of the Ultimate Fighter. While Kizer said the meeting wasn't productive, Sonnen told Ariel Helwani that "[H]e told me I could come before his body as soon as I got done with the federal thing and look forward for a second chance."
Sonnen was scheduled for a hearing with the Nevada commission on April 27th, but that meeting has been put on hold. Fortunately, this doesn't sound like Josh Barnett's quest to regain his license in California, which is now approaching two years since pissing hot prior to his scheduled bout with Fedor Emelianenko at Affliction: Trilogy. MMA Junkie reports:
A source close to the fighter's camp told MMAjunkie.com that the delay comes not from Sonnen but his federal probation officer, who has denied him permission to enter Clark County as part of a mandate to keep convicted felons out of the county for the Laughlin River Run, an annual motorcycle rally that's in its past seen violence from rival motorcycle clubs.
The Laughlin River Run is most known for an incident in 2002 that left three dead and about a dozen others in the hospital following an attack on the Hell's Angels by rival motorcycle club the Mongols.
Nevermind that the city of Laughlin is 100 miles south of Las Vegas, and that the state of Washington convicted Sonnen of a nonviolent, white collar crime. Government, of course, is not known for a proclivity toward logic and reason.
So far, there's no word on a rescheduled date.
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You listen to whatever your probation officer says, Chael.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 20, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions
Good Advice
Been there.
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
Probably for the best.
Those Hells Angels might not react favorably to having Mexican Chael stomping around Nevada.
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wait, you mean this dude?
goddamn, i love that picture.
by Victor Rodriguez on Apr 20, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Tell us what you really think.
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by alicks on Apr 20, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Why circle just Fedor?
Because the two names next to him should be double underlined and circled.
The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.
by FreeLightningLee on Apr 20, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Because this story has no relation to Fedor whatsoever.
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 20, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, yeah. I was, of course, being facetious – I’m guessing it automatically tagged it because he used Fedor’s name in the article.
But still, it’s an awfully strange coincidence that they’re not listed alphabetically or in order of appearance, and that the word “fraud” appears immediately before Fedor’s name! I’M ONTO YOU, FAGAN.
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That’s Bleacherriffic.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 20, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Chael needs to mind his P's and Q's with Kizer...
and the NSAC. Even with the UFC looking elsewhere for venues, the NSAC is still a MAJOR factor in the UFC. I would love to see Chael behind a microphone, NOT defending himself legally sometime soon. That man can tell lies like no one’s business. (And if you ask him, it ain’t no one’s business…)
Chael Sonnen poses during his UFC 117 weigh-in, while a Tony Shalhoub stares at his back acne.
Haha
Though I should add, the preferred term is “Bacne”.
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by Yxas on Apr 20, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Chael would throw his boot at them bikers
And damn it they better shine it back up before they give it back to him.
The key is to hit the guy in the jaw really hard before the other guy does it to you.
by FreeLightningLee on Apr 20, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions
This is my favorite story of the year
I know that logically this line of thinking from the government doesn’t make a lot of sense, but in my heart it seems fitting and outrageously amusing. Only a liar and spin doctor like Chael could get caught up in such an obscure restriction.
"Sometimes these things happen in MMA."
the longer it takes the better, this sport doesn’t need proven cheaters and liars , he cheated in both the okami and marquart fights ( by his own admission , he was fighting while getting the benefits of extra testosterone, without the commissions approval) then he really overdoses on test for the anderson fight and gets caught by cali. does he come right away and claim his innocence ( like anyone who was on hrt for legitamate reasons would of) no he remains silent until he can could get a doc to fudge the paper work showing he was on extra test, for med reasons. then he goes to cali and appeals stating nevada was aware of his fighting under hrt , so cali reduced his penalty under the impression it was just a paper mistake, but in reality it was sonnen just happened to know that if he got caught using ped , his coaches , lindland and henderson , had already been on hrt. so he knew he could fix it if he stayed silent and cali didn’t have the time to check with nevada whether what sonnen claimed was true , which as we all know now it was just another lie. so the fights against okami and marquart should be changed to no contests, next add the fact in sonnen filo 1 sonnen claimed he never tapped . the ref took all sorts of criticism for this mistake , when in reality sonnen admitted to kizer that he did tap ( another tactic from lindland the fake tap) . then lastly we come to his morals out side the octagon, namely money laundering charges ,again he makes a deal to testify against his partners so he can get off again. so we have a pattern that doesn’t change mr. sonnen consistantly cheats and lies , and sadly when it comes to psysically combative sports where there are rules in place to pro actively protect the health of the atnheletes , mr sonnen has chosen time and time to by pass these rules . and when gets caught choses to lie and cheat some more. THIS IS NOT SOMEONE WHO SHOULD BE GIVEN A LICENSE TO FIGHT AGAIN . IT IS MORE LIKELY HE WILL CHEAT IN THE FUTURE AND LIE ABOUT IT AGAIN.IT WOULD SHOW THAT THE COMMISSIONS ARE SERIOUS IF THEY DID NOT LICENSE SONNEN .
by robbyedRobby Edwards on Apr 20, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
cocaine is a helluva drug
If you wanna throw down in fisticuffs, fine! I've got Jack Johnson and Tom O'Leary waitin' for ya...right here!
by ODBasyoucansee on Apr 20, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Lock him up and throw away the key! He is a derelict of society who can never be rehabilitated!
Just Breed!
by ScoreCardOTN on Apr 20, 2011 9:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sonnen did not have elevated testoserone,( ever), did you watch the Cal. hearing.? Dodd put out to the press that Sonnen was 4x elevated Testoterone, But when a commissioner ask Dodd if Sonnens levels were elevated he said(and I quote) I don t know Iam not a doctor. then it was established his levels were not high. The test only showed presence of a synthetic substance.They used a better test in Nevada that showed the actual levels , that is why he passed in Nevada, but not in California, He has not made any deals to testify against anyone, don t believe every thing you hear. I went to his hearing in Portland , for Money Laundering. He made not a dime on the deal , he simply got a bigger loan for a customer than he should have had,and it was 5 years ago when he just started in Real Estate, he made a mistake.
Sonnen did not have elevated testoserone,( ever), did you watch the Cal. hearing.?
No one involved has any idea what Sonnen’s actual testosterone levels were, only that his T/E ratio was significantly elevated indicating the probable presence of synthetic testosterone, which the subsequent tests confirmed.
It is not possible for them or anyone else to determine testosterone levels from a standard UA.
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by The American Ronin on Apr 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
chael was busted?
i was unaware
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Apr 20, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions
stop hating on comissions and the government
Chael has done the following:
-Chael lied over and over again
-He used illegal testosterone
-Made a mockery of the court
Why is everyone jumping to his defense? Sometimes people do bad things and they should pay for them, white collar crime damages society even more than the violent kind, look at the financial collapse, which happened partly becasue people did what Chael did (as a relater). Give me a break. We should give him a chance just becasue he fights? Street thugs fight too. They just lack the swagger I guess.
by BgArchon on Apr 20, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hope this dude never fights again.
For one, he’s a crappy fighter. Just an awful, awful one-dimensional LnP wrestler of a fighter. Two, he’s an awful human being. Just a vile disgusting person who will lie, cheat and steal to get his way. Repulsive.
Sure, he has his fans who think he’s just getting a raw deal, but these fans are idiots and let’s hope they leave with him.
I can understand
why the state wouldn’t want a convicted felon around during abiker rally, but come on, Sonnen doesn’t look like the kinda guy thats gonna run with some bikers and cause some shit. I could be wrong here, but…
It is just a blanket rule,
there is no attempt to see on a case-by-case basis which felons should be excluded. Even so, as I have said often here, Sonnen’s public personality will do far more harm than good, and because it involved Kizer personally, the UFC is unable to significantly influence the outcome.
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
by The American Ronin on Apr 21, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
crazy bikers
your government in play, apparently they don t want to put a fighter (back to work)I relistened to Sonnen s Cal. hearing, and was astouned, When Dodd , the CAl. Director, (after putting out in the press that Sonnen was 4xnormal T. level. Was asked if Sonnen s levels were elevated, Replied (I don t know I am not a doctor)It was established they were never too high , test just showed a synthetic substance,Nevada s test showes the level, a difference in tests.Why is Dodd not required to make a retraction. for (mispeaking)this should have been a story.
Part of it is they don’t know what they are talking about it seems. SC Michaelson (aka Black Lesnar) did some in depth looking into it and spoke with the AC’s office several times and got some of the document sent that he posted at WKR (and possibly here in a fan post). Just fundamental things wrong, like insisting to SC that T/E ratio was testosterone to estrogen rather than testosterone to epitestosterone.
If Nevada’s test shows actual levels, it is a blood test, and I don’t think any of the ACs (possibly excepting NJ) do any blood tests for MMA, but I could be wrong.
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
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by The American Ronin on Apr 21, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
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