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Satoshi Ishii Leaving MMA to Return to Judo

What might have been.

Satoshi Ishii, the prospect who was supposed to revive Japanese MMA has announced he's leaving the sport to return to Judo competition. He is working on getting American citizenship and hopes to compete for the American judo team in the 2016 Rio Olympics. Ishii won the gold medal at the Bejing Olympics in 2008 at age 21.

When he announced he was leaving the sport to try his hand at MMA, a feverish bidding war began to secure his services and Ishii managed to alienate nearly everyone in the sport before even having his first pro fight. First he verbally committed to fight for Dream. Then he announced he was going to sign with the UFC. Then he signed with World Victory Road to fight in their Sengoku promotion.

When Sengoku couldn't get it together to put on a major event, he ended up making his debut for Dream's parent company at Dynamite! 2009.  That was a bust as he lost a decision to his fellow Olympic gold medalist, the 39 year old Hidehiko Yoshida. He went on to completely alienate Japanese fans while winning his next four fights against a mix of middleweights, aging kickboxers and not very good fighters.

Along the way he completely burned his bridges with the tight-knit Japanese Judo community. 

Most recently he had been scheduled to fight at Strikeforce Challengers on April 1st but pulled out of that fight due to visa issues, a divorce and difficulties arising from the recent disaster in Japan.

Zach Arnold comments:

The career shift puts an end to what was one of the most heavily mismanaged prospects ever to hit the Mixed Martial Arts scene. He had all the tools and the power base to make it work. He may have came at the wrong time (with a dying Japanese MMA scene), but he still had lots of potential for high-profile television matches and commercial work. He was even aligned with the Antonio Inoki political machine to get things done. However, in the end, he was largely a colossal dud. He hated taking a punch and that's not a good thing if you're fighting in this sport. He also has a very mercurial personality and few fans could relate to his life story or his demeanor. He came off as aloof, goofy, and at times insulting - so much so that fans booed him and cheered Jerome Le Banner on New Year's Eve 2010.

It's easy to say that his career was mismanaged, but the larger truth is that you can only control someone to a certain extent. It's clear, so far, that Ishii makes rash decisions in his life. I don't know if impulsive is the right word, but undisciplined might be a more accurate term. On paper, he has all the talent in the world. That talent was certainly alluring to K-1 and he could have been a cornerstone for the promotion. However, he didn't want to play the political games. He marched to the beat of his own drumt. Whatever he was doing for training, it didn't pan out for him. Nothing clicked.

There was a lot of money on the table. However, to get that money, Ishii would have had to play by the rules and be disciplined about it. In the end, he didn't want to be a Japanese mainstay. Furthermore, the money we thought that was on the table may have been nothing more than a mirage with K-1.

It's the end of a very frustrating MMA career that left this fan very disappointed. In a way Ishii was the representative star for his era of MMA in Japan -- an era of empty promises and disappointed fans. 

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Can you switch citizenships and represent another country in the Olympics if you’ve already represented a certain country? I didn’t even know that was possible.

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by Tim Burke on Apr 20, 2011 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm talking out of my ass here

but I don’t think that will be a problem. I seem to recall a few defectors doing just that during the cold war.

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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 20, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you can. Take a look at the basketball rosters in the summer games.

Tons of dudes get citizenship to their grandparents country to play for other national teams. Chris Kaman playing for Germany, Earl Watson playing for Mexico (my personal favorite), etc.

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by Forrest Lynn on Apr 20, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kaman attempted to make the US team

Didn’t make it. Whether you represented a country before or not doesn’t matter. Only citizenship.

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by Forrest Lynn on Apr 20, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

In hockey it matters. Once you’ve repped one country you can’t rep another. But as others have pointed out, guess that’s not true in all sports. Thanks for the responses guys.

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by Tim Burke on Apr 20, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

The World Cup is the same as hockey. Once you get capped for a country, you’re stuck there FOREVER.

by Mike Fagan on Apr 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Although ironically, playing in the Olympics does not disqualify one from switching one’s footballing nationality.

"With gold thou boughtest Gýmir's daughter,
and so gavest away thy sword:
but when Muspell's sons through the dark forest ride,
thou, unhappy, wilt not have wherewith to fight."
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by VenusBlue on Apr 20, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Ferenc Puskas played for Hungary in the 1952 Olympics and 1954 World Cup before playing for Spain in the 1962 World Cup.

by ShiftyK on Apr 20, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Back then the rules were much more fluid. Puskas played in the World Cup for Hungary in 1954 for instance. More startlingly, Luisito Monti won the World Cup with Uruguay in ’30 and Italy in ’34.

A more recent example: Thiago Motta represented Brazil in the Olympics (Sydney I believe) but was recently capped by Italy.

"With gold thou boughtest Gýmir's daughter,
and so gavest away thy sword:
but when Muspell's sons through the dark forest ride,
thou, unhappy, wilt not have wherewith to fight."
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by VenusBlue on Apr 20, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the majority of sports are like that.

The likes of soccer and rugby definitely. Athletics and Olympic events seem to be the main exceptions.

by Snedds on Apr 20, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes 100%

a friend of mine switched citizenship for another Olympic Sport, it happens all the time

by T.P. Grant on Apr 20, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Malachi Davis

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by MattParker117 on Apr 20, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Wonder how the home crowd is going to feel about the switch to rep. America in the games.

But, in regards to leaving MMA:

by rkilla on Apr 20, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

About the Judo team switch

Japan has a very political system when it come to top end Judo guys. If he’s burned those bridges (and he has), he won’t make the team. It doesn’t really matter what wins he gets, he’s not going to compete at the highest levels there. In the states, he’s a shoe-in. Our top heavyweight, Daniel McCormick, is good, but will get slapped around by Ishii in competition. We aren’t very strong at the high weights. Or the low ones for that matter.

The only problem Ishii is going to face is finding good training partners. There are maybe 3 high-end heavyweights in competition in the US. That’s not nearly enough to sharpen him for world competition, even if he could get them in the same room.

by Hedonismbot on Apr 20, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Figured it was a situation similar to that one.

by rkilla on Apr 20, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Figures
The career shift puts an end to what was one of the most heavily mismanaged prospects ever to hit the Mixed Martial Arts scene

I still can’t believe how bad he was managed, and how badly he carried himself. This is the opposite of what happened to Jon Jones, but then again he wasn’t really a blue chip prospect yet when the UFC picked him up

by TheBiggertheyare... on Apr 20, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Ishii's a weird guy.

He was always known as a heel figure in judo and was never a media darling. You kind of had to figure he wasn’t going to be able to handle himself publicly since he’s kind of just a goofy dude.

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by Forrest Lynn on Apr 20, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s cool, i wasn’t aware he was a heel in Judo

by TheBiggertheyare... on Apr 20, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhere Luke Thomas suddenly got a headache

by Horselover Fat on Apr 20, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He was talking about trying to get on the US judo team a while back. Not really surprised by this but it is a very interesting story about how he stumbled through the sport in two years without much to show for it but burnt bridges and unmet expectations.

by who me on Apr 20, 2011 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

it's still up just off the front page

it’ll be back in 15 minutes. There was a scheduling snafu. Not saying who messed up but his story got bumped. ; )

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by Nate Wilcox on Apr 20, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

here I thought Big Jon used his Illuminati connections to get the story pulled.

by POW on Apr 20, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't he break Anderson Silva's rib?

That’s quite an accomplishment— provided a handicap that led, directly, to the most entertaining fight of Silva’s career.

by Gideon Jay on Apr 20, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously?

Where did you read this? I had no idea that was Ishii’s doing.

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by andrew861 on Apr 20, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool, I didn’t know that either.. fun little trivia to keep in the back of your head.

From that linked article:

Silva reiterated that he’d injured his ribs days out from Saturday’s bout training with 2008 Olympic judo gold medalist Satoshi Ishii, who’d traveled from Japan to help him and Lyoto Machida prepare at the Black House gym outside of Los Angeles.

“The doctor told me not to fight, (my manager) Ed Soares, too," said Silva. "The decision to fight was out of respect for my fans and the UFC."

by Horselover Fat on Apr 20, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw well

It’s the right move for HIM though. If he can’t make money or compete at the highest level in Japan for judo, then it makes sense. Add to that divorce, no money in japanese anything right now, and other stuff and well he definitely need a change of scene.

by squaresphere on Apr 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

so he turned out to mma version of Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell.

Other sports have way more busts then actual prospects.

by malo on Apr 20, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He might still be able to make a comeback, since he is still really young, as could Jamarcus if he actually wanted to you know, work at it.

Can’t teach desire

by TheBiggertheyare... on Apr 20, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

about to post the same thing

he’s only 24, he could make a comeback once he’s matured a little & competed in another Olympics. Its awesome that the US now has a gold medal caliber judoka on the team!

Also, is it just me or does the term “Judo player” sound stupid? we don’t call wrestlers “Wrestle players” or boxers “Boxing players”…the term Judoka fits so why try to Americanize it.

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by tigerlee on Apr 20, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Judoka is a better and cooler term.

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by Kefka on Apr 20, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, hopefully he's made up his mind.

Cause as a fan, it’s frustrating to see an athlete of his calibur basically being a cocktease. I don’t mean to fighter bash, and I know there are extenuating circumstances that have affected Ishii’s career, but the whole Ishii thing has been a big disappointment right from the get-go.

by pud333 on Apr 20, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Another story about something Satoshi Ishii wants to do

I swear he issues press releases the second an idea pops into his head.

by simpsycho on Apr 20, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Not surprising.

Ishii never seemed to have the heart necessary for MMA.

by gzl5000 on Apr 20, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I’m not too upset about this. Good luck with the judo thing I guess.

by Horselover Fat on Apr 20, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

He's going to have to make some money between now and 2016

2016 is also a long time from now. I could understand him intensely training judo along with MMA, but he needs to stick with MMA for now. It will also help his American citizenship aspirations if he has steady work here.

The fan in me really wishes he’d give it another shot. He could still be a good component of StrikeForce’s LHW division.

by Chromium on Apr 21, 2011 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

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