UFC 129: Jake Shields Confident He'll Take the Belt From GSP
by Nick Thomas on Apr 2, 2011 9:47 AM EDT
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Two dominant welterweights meet in Toronto for the biggest UFC event in history - Will Georges St. Pierre continue his dominance over the welterweight division, or will Jake Shields begin his reign in Toronto? We'll find out April 30th:
"To become the UFC welterweight champion would mean everything to me. This is what I've spent my last 11 years pursuing with all my energy. This is something I plan on doing April 30th."Apr 30th, live on Pay-per-view from Toronto, Ontario, Canada:
"I've been in these other shows and heard everyone say GSP is the greatest. When I was over in EliteXC beating everyone else, when I was in Strikeforce beating everyone else, at Rumble on the Rock and everyone kept on talking about GSP, I kept on winning and winning and beating good competition. I've been looking at this guy and wanting to fight him for years."
"I'm just thinking about going out there and beating him. They can boo me or cheer me, but I'm going out there to beat GSP."
Jake Shields (26-4-1) [Num. 3] +365
Win Martin Kampmann - Decision (Split) UFC 121
Win Dan Henderson - Decision (Unanimous) Strikeforce
Win Jason Miller - Decision (Unanimous) Strikeforce
Georges "Rush" St. Pierre (21-2) [Num. 1] -500
Win Josh Koscheck - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 124
Win Dan Hardy - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 111
Win Thiago Alves - Decision (Unanimous) UFC 100
Jake Shields - Preparing for UFC 129
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What else is he going to say, “I don’t really have a chance.”?
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure.
Sure, why not?
This community was up in arms that Jones didn’t say that before his fight with Rua.
by High Knee Destroyer on Apr 2, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wow, he's so arrogant
How dare he say he can beat the champion? He should show him some respect. I can tell he has gotten cocky.
i hope you are trolling.
If not then you are an idiot, what’s he supposed to say?.. I am going in there to lose.
by malo on Apr 2, 2011 9:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ask Ruckard Wade
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Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
Richard
I dun know what happened here
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
One thing I can guarantee Jake
There ain’t gonna be much cheering for you on that night…
Two things
First, Shields’ striking looks pretty weak, even in training promos
Second, Who is that guy on the magazine cover at the end, with “Jake Shields” under him? He’s ripped.
That's a lot of decisions for both of them.
Also, it’s amusing that Jake has his belts sitting on Ikea shelves.
There is no possible way those are ikea. I’m only certain because i know for a fact ikea shelves can’t support a grown man leaning on them.
by MRR1 on Apr 2, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
true, but
He looks like he’s not really leaning, more creating the illusion that is leaning. He knows that we know
One he loses
Once he loses…Jake Shields will become the biggest gatekeeper in MMA history. The only real reason hes getting a title shot is because theres no other fighters at WW right now. You can put anyone in front of GSP in Toronto and it will sell out no matter what. I guarantee you that it could have been a featherweight and the tickets would have still sold out rapidly, why…because people come to see GSP. The UFC will never give Jake Shields a title shot again, hes a terribly boring fighter. He makes Jon Fitch look like Anderson SIlva. I bet my account on here, sherdog, youtube, and where ever else that he will retire without a second shot at the title.
I wish death upon no one, but not all deserve to live.
We “need” to see Fitch vs Shields. I wanna see what happens hen an unmovable object meets an unmovable object.
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by spectaa on Apr 2, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
unstoppable + immovable = unmovable
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by lowellthehammer on Apr 2, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Fitch vs Shields ? I like this fight a lot !
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by MarcoDos on Apr 2, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
makes Fitch look like a anderson silva?
what… the only exciting fight Fitch has ever had is when GSP beat his ass. At least Shields tries to gain more dominant position AND he subs people he should sub (like lawler, daley, ect). Fitch can’t even finish people who are well below his talents.
i dont even like shields
and think GSP will destroy him (aka dominant decision lol) but I don’t understand the hate. Shields has tried to fight the best people in whatever org he is in, including moving up in weight to do that. And including changing promotions to do this.
good point
GSP is mostly concerned with dominating where he has the biggest advantage, and does not really want to take any risks after the Serra loss. Shields on the other hand seems to want to take risks….when he first signed with the UFC he wanted to fight Silva as his first fight!
I’m in no way saying he’s going to win, or even come close, but you gotta love a guy who wants nothing but to fight the best…..and he’s more than willing to move around promotions and weight classes to do so.
hm..
I don’t think this is accurate. Jon Fitch, regardless of your opinion of him, still wins fights. He is ranked #2, and I wouldn’t say that ranking matches the “gatekeeper” status. Shields should be about as good as Fitch, based on most prior fights. You might not like them, they might be boring, but they win. Get over it.
Damn
The last 3 opponents they both beat are all beast…………….besides Hardy
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by ANDERSONS GOT THE JUICE on Apr 2, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions
Shields by submission.
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by the-gentle-way on Apr 2, 2011 10:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would be incredibly shocked if Shields won by decision. Mid-scramble submission is a distinct possibility, but a decision – no chance imo.
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by The American Ronin on Apr 2, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont see him getting a sub cause I dont see him taking GSP down. GSP has the best Take down Def in the Division! GSP needs to keep this standing. Does anyone know if he is training with Phil Nurse for this fight?
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I honestly think GSP is going to be on his bike, jabbing and backing away, essentially refusing to significantly engage, at least for the first couple of rounds. GSP will do everything possible to keep this on the feet and at a distance, and he may well have the speed and athleticism to do so, but if Shields gets his hands on him, he will likely get dragged down.
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by The American Ronin on Apr 2, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, most likely
But it’s going to be like Koscheck. Shields might not get knocked out, but his face is going to know it has been jabbed to death.
RJ, Whaaaa...
How can you say that GSP has the “best” TDD in the division?? name 5 people that have shot in for the TD against GSP?? the last i remember was Koscheck and he Got the Takedown…Noone shoots in on GSP, and 95% of GSP’s fights are spent with people on theyre back or defending shots…..the best Defense in MMA is a constant offense…..making the other figther play defense the whole time…
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by Curtis Wooden on Apr 2, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Here are the takedown attempts made on GSP in the UFC:
Koscheck II: 1/4
Hardy: 0/0
Alves: 0/0
Penn II: 0/1
Fitch: 0/6
Serra II: 0/0
Hughes III: 0/3
Koscheck I: 1/4
Serra: 0/0
Hughes II: 0/6
Penn I: 1/1
Sherk: 0/3
Trigg: 0/1
Miller: 1/6
Hughes I: 2/7
Hieron: 0/3
Karo: 0/2
I’ve highlighted the Hughes fights, and the Fitch fight. It’s clear those guys wanted to drag the fight to the floor, and could only do it 2 times out of a combined 22 times. Pretty impressive TDD.
by Shnak on Mar 28, 2011 5:02 AM PDT up reply actions 11 recs
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
by Chris Hall on Apr 2, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's a good one
you say that with such confidence. Well, I admire your optimism.
however, I don’t think GSP lets this get to the ground, ever. I haven’t seen many standing submissions, but maybe Shields can pull one out of his hat.
Prediction
I predict that this fight between two decision machines does not end in a decision.
by High Knee Destroyer on Apr 2, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions
I am almost always optimistic that the underdog has a chance but......
this just might be the most lopsided match up in the history of MMA. I’m pulling for Jake but seriously how in the F is he gonna take GSP down?
"I gotta couple of lawsuits against me, yeah, two of em almost drowned when I hit em with the money shot."- Don Frye
a single leg or a double or a trip.....
The same way he took down Olympians Ben Askren and Dan Henderson.
Its really not that far fetched of an idea.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Apr 2, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope you’re right GW, but I imagine Firas and company are feeding GSP to the wrestling wolves round after round perfecting the art of the stuffed takedown.
"I gotta couple of lawsuits against me, yeah, two of em almost drowned when I hit em with the money shot."- Don Frye
by GirlsBeatMeUp on Apr 2, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
i am sure gsp will come prepared.
I don’t think it will matter. I think jake is that much better of a grappler.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Apr 2, 2011 11:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
With the way he handled Kos and Fitch
I just have a lot of doubts that Shields will be that much more successful taking GSP down, regardless of his undeniable grappling and submission skills
Where Shields excels is once he gets his hands on someone, even if it is while he is being taken down himself.
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"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
by The American Ronin on Apr 2, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
He is great, but he didn’t overwhelm Kampman on the ground. He won’t handle GSP either.
by Hardcharger on Apr 2, 2011 12:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was injured during camp and apparently had a weight cut gone wrong to boot against Kampmann – he will look nothing like that again.
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"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
by The American Ronin on Apr 2, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to disagree. The Kampmann fight definately didn’t look good for Shields, but if you put it into percpective, he out grappled Kampmann completely gassed. Thats a damn good grappler if you can still gain dominant position over and over with nothing in the tank.
didnt that fight end with jake sinking in a body triangle and working a choke?
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Apr 2, 2011 12:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He got reversed and Kampman scrambled to his feet multiple times before any gassing. And GSP is far superior, with far superior takedown defense, as well as explosive athleticism. Shields is not going to come close to handling GSP on the mat, and that’s if he can get it there more than once or twice.
by Hardcharger on Apr 2, 2011 2:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In all fairness
Henderson is not remotely the MMA Wrestler that GSP is, 15+ year ago Olympic GR credentials or not. Shields did take Askren down in training, but only when they started the drill with him already pushing Askren against the wall – he never took him down from distance or when they weren’t already engaged.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
by The American Ronin on Apr 2, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, even then
Look at the first round before he gassed. He was stuffing Shields’ takedowns just fine.
He was completely on queer street within the first 25 seconds on the round and only shot once later in the round for a takedown – and he took Henderson down.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
by The American Ronin on Apr 2, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
so if jake clinches gsp
He should be able to take him down.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Apr 2, 2011 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think that if they clinch, Jake will manage to get him down.
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
by The American Ronin on Apr 2, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don’t see Shields’ wrestling being any better than Koscheck’s or Fitch’s. From what I’ve seen, he utilizes the single leg takedown a lot against the cage and really forces that takedown wearing out his energy. He does use other takedowns as well, but I have seen that he really forces his takedowns sapping his strength and cardio. GSP has better standup than Shields, and I just have a hard time seeing Shields being able to take GSP down. Shields has great BJJ and better than most opponents that GSP fought (Penn MAY be better at BJJ), but it’s not like GSP is some slouch on the ground either. Serra, Fitch, and Penn are all legit BJJ blackbelts, and Hughes while not having a BJJ belt, is BJJ blackbelt level, so I feel that GSP isn’t in trouble just because he hits the floor with Shields.
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by The American Ronin on Apr 2, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Need Better Highlights
So why isn’t the UFC using Jake’s SF footage for highlights? Zuffa owns the video library now… It’s kind of sad seeing that ugly Kampmann fight spliced in there for 0.5 second long bursts…
I think it actually made the promo better
They got creative with the one they aired during the last UFC PPV and Fight Night, I think it was really well done actually. They made it feel as epic as it really probably isn’t going to be.
I still think
They need to hire NicktheFace.
by Confucius on Apr 2, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shields by submission.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Apr 2, 2011 10:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
If you want to make some money on the 30th,
Do a Shields/Couture parlay.
by Rob Young on Apr 2, 2011 1:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
umm.....
Yea…… about that…..
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"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Apr 2, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rob tell them everything.
It only works if you poison both guys and hold their families hostage during the bout. Then you can make money.
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Then parlay that with Jon Olav Einemo to beat Carwin
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are those odds broken?
people are really counting out Shields on this one, GSP wins fights but he isnt that crushingly dominant, don’t count Shields out!
i picked up sheilds @ +400
He is now at +300
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"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Apr 2, 2011 2:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like GSP but I think it’ll be exciting and make for an interesting story if he loses lol
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by ProfessorBLove on Apr 2, 2011 2:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
what’s the point of working out with chains draped over the bar? did they run out of regular weights? what kind of half-assed gym is that? half the weight of the chains never makes it off the floor. it reminds me of marky mark curling cinder blocks. cheesy.
half the weight of the chains never makes it off the floor
That’s kind of the point. Using chains is way of developing explosive power. The purpose is to teach a lifter to explode through their lifts. As Jake brings the bar down to his chest the chains start to coil up on the floor and the bar gets lighter. As Jake begins pushing the bar away from his chest the chain links start to come off the floor and the bar gets heavier. In order to get the lock out at the top of the lift, you have to produce an increasing amount of force from the bottom to the top. Like I said, it teaches you to explode through the lift.
Chains or bands are usually used to vary resistance for dynamic (speed) training to increase explosiveness. The further you get through the movement, the greater the resistance (weight essentially). High level stuff, when done correctly.
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by The American Ronin on Apr 2, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone else think that the 4th belt down resembles a UFC title?
I’m not sayin, I’m just saying.
Will someone explain what it is about Jake’s standup that just feels really ineffective? I can’t put my finger on it, but his punches look like they wouldn’t make a small girl cry.
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It's because the technique just isn't there.
He needs to spend some time with a high-level boxing trainer because even his GnP looks weak. The disparity in the standup game is going to be so obvious early on and throughout this fight…Shields should have fought somebody like Kos first but they needed a fresh victim for GSP.
Strikeforce, EliteXC, Rumble on the Rock...
…but what is that belt on the bottom? Anyone recognize that one?
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