M-1 Global: Fedor Emelianenko's Legacy Secure With the Next Generation of Russian Stars
They say iron sharpens iron. It's become an MMA truism, a handy quote tossed out by fighters at Xtreme Couture, the American Kickboxing Academy, and beyond. But before iron can be sharpened it must first be discovered and brought up from the ground - and no place is doing that hard and dirty work better than Stary Oskol, Russia. Iron ore reserves of more than 55 billion tons can be found just outside of town in the open pit mines of the Kursk Magnetic Anomaly. Iron is also being forged daily at a small gym near where the great Russian champion Fedor Emelianenko grew up.
It's there, as well as at Red Devil headquarters in St. Petersburg, that Emelianenko helps build the MMA stars of tomorrow. The best developing talent in Russia has flocked to the team, long the main source of fighters for Europe's leading MMA promotion M-1 Global. As a minority owner, Fedor is the promotion's number one recruiter. After all, it's easy to pitch a young star on your team when you can count the top fighter in the sport's history among your client list. His presence and legacy adds much needed confidence - this is the organization that has guided the greatest fighter of all time to worldwide success. As a young Russian fighter, what could be better?
"The ultimate goal of the promotion is to continue finding new talented fighters and putting on exciting, entertaining events - having Fedor on board definitely adds credibility to the organization when signing new athletes to the roster," M-1 Global head Vadim Finkelstein said, emphasizing to Bloody Elbow that M-1 the promotion is distinct from M-1 the management team. "For Fedor, M-1 is the agent that works together with other established promotions and assists in setting up his fights. Figuratively speaking, I compare M-1 Global to Fedor’s shield, an entity that stands up for and protects his interests."
While the Red Devil "Olympic Dreams" headquarters in St. Petersburg is state of the art, in Stary Oskol the legendary Fedor trains among the men and boys of the town. The fighters put in work at Palace of Sport in a huge open space, originally a basketball court covered with mats. The prospects grapple and strike, learning their craft from Fedor and his coaches. It hardly compares to the amazing gyms you'll find scattered across the United States - but no one is there for the ambience or the perks. They are there to learn from the best.
""Training with Fedor is unbelievable. It's awesome when you get a chance to train with somebody who is way better than you are, who trains on a different and much higher level," M-1 star Mikhail Zayats said. "Fedor taught me how to live as a good man. When you see him train, you realize that in order to be like him and reach his level, you need to work even harder than you ever imagined; and Fedor shows you how to do it."
To a man, his young proteges talk more about how Emelianenko has helped them develop as people than they do about his role in developing their fight game. A new found convert to the Russian Orthodox church, Fedor's approach to life resonates with his charges.
"In training sessions the main thing I take away is learning how he trains," Maxim Grishin said. Like Fedor, Grishin is a small heavyweight, barely tipping the scales at 225 pounds. For him, Fedor is the perfect template. "When you see him training, you're in awe and want to soak up as much as you can to inherit his technique and demeanor. But the thing I admire about him the most are his qualities as a person – to be honest, open and kind."
Kirill Sidelnikov, a 22 year old fighter known as "Baby Fedor" agrees. "For me it’s a huge experience to train with Fedor. He helps me with everything, not only with training but with life in general," he says. "For me Fedor is a man with a big heart. It is a great honor to be able to train with him. I think the main thing I learned from him, is a sense of purpose in my fighting and in life."
Emelianenko's presence has been a boon for M-1 outside the ring as well. Negotiating his contract with Strikeforce and Showtime helped the promotion get in the same room as the decision makers at the premium cable network, eventually leading to a four event contract. The M-1 brass, although proud of their relationship with Fedor, insist that their deal with Showtime wasn't part of a quid pro quo to deliver Emelianenko to the network.
"In terms of leveraging Fedor, we had worked together with Showtime previously and based on Ken Hershman’s desire to have Showtime televise quality cards showcasing top prospects and lesser known international stars, we certainly broached the topic of incorporating our product into their mix," M-1 Director of Operations Evgeni Kogan said. "We leveraged our existing relationship but the general public should understand that Fedor’s contract and the M-1 Challenge events are separate agreements."
At 34 Emelianenko is already eying life after his competitive career in the cage ends. Fedor has 2 fights left on his current contract and Showtime has an option to offer 1 further fight at the conclusion of the deal. By the end of the year we should know whether the deal has been extended as Fedor is contractually obligated to fight every six months.
His deal with M-1 Global should secure his legacy no matter what he decides to do with his own career. His legacy doesn't exist on old fight tapes, merely as a memory on a fading photograph in a Russian gym. Fedor Emelianenko is building his legacy every day with the fighters he trains and mentors. Their success is his success - figuratively, and as an M-1 owner, literally.
"As part owner of M-1, Fedor has a vested interest to see the brand succeed," Kogan said. "His fighting career has secured him financially but there will come a day when he retires, when this will happen only he can say. But when this day comes, Fedor will always continue to be involved in the sport and having a share in Europe's leading mixed martial arts promotion will not only provide financial benefits but will also ensure his legacy lives on."
The champion himself puts it simply. "I hope that the stars of tomorrow will always have a platform to showcase their skills," the legendary Emelianenko told Bloody Elbow. "I’m proud that I can contribute to the sport after I move past competing."
Many of the stars of tomorrow will compete on a free live card in two weeks. M-1 Challenge XXV: Zavurov vs. Magomedov 2 from St. Petersburg, Russia will be available to viewers worldwide on the official M-1 Global website (www.M-1Global.com) and here at Bloody Elbow starting at 11:00am ET / 8:00am PT on Thursday April 28th.
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Kursk Magnetic Anomaly
If I ever get banned, that’s my new screen name. Hear me, denizens of BE, and acknowledge my dibs.
by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Apr 15, 2011 12:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Your dibs be thy downfall.
You’ve outed yourself on what your fallback screen name is.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 16, 2011 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions
yep
and he has the nerve to call ariel helwani a schill lol
by gsot fan on Apr 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
yes
but people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
by gsot fan on Apr 15, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone with some substantive criticism of this article? It’s about M-1 and Fedor’s role with the promotion. What was unfair about what I wrote?
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don’t think anyone is complaining about what you wrote here. It’s just odd that you seem to be so hard on Ariel Helwani (“he’s not a reporter, he’s an insider!”) then write all your pieces as though they could be P.R. releases for M-1. Frankly, I find the M-1 articles interesting, I find the criticism of Helwani to be baffling.
I’m not taking money to write these stories, except from SBNation. This is a piece in which I contacted and reached out to half a dozen people around the country. Nobody flew me anywhere and walked me into a room full of fighters. I don’t see where a Helwani comparison comes from.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Are you saying that Helwani takes money from the UFC? I’m confused as to what exactly your criticism of him was, personally.
I think the implication is that you’re using advertisement in exchange for insider access, not that you’re getting paid. As I said, I don’t have a problem with it.
by Confucius on Apr 15, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
People provide information to writers with the understanding they will use it at the media outlet they work for. What are you talking about? That’s the entire purpose of journalism.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don’t think you’re reading what I wrote. At all:
Frankly, I find the M-1 articles interesting, I find the criticism of Helwani to be baffling.
As I said, I don’t have a problem with it.
There is nothing about Ariel Helwani in this story. I’d be shocked if I’ve written more than a paragraph about Helwani in my whole life. It’s like blathering on about Jim Gray.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, there’s nothing about it in this story, you are correct. However, you made some very pointed comments that seemed to come out of nowhere when someone called Ariel Helwani a journalist in a comment on another post about him not being a journalist without a lot of elaboration about why you consider him an insider rather than a journalist. I don’t care enough to go look for it, if you don’t want to talk about it, I can’t be arsed to go dig it up because frankly it’s not that important.
I've only been reading here for the past 2-3months
But the writers here all seem stuck-up and just plain ignorant. I think they feel sometimes that they should be the “elites” of the reporting world for MMA and the notion that someone else is a bigger report (Ariel, or rather “insider”) gets them all bothered. Jon is the best writer on here and you don’t fall victim to being a complete self-obsessed snob like Luke Thomas but your not too far-off.
Perhaps take a cue from mania’s writing staff? Have a bit of fun and keep your comments light.
"don't insult Thomas"
I don’t think I am. He said as much himself in a long-wrote up response about how he created bloody elbow and its his sweat and blood in here so his opinions..etc
It’s more of you guys just needing to be chill.
This should be fun for you, not a forum were you get all hurt over a posters comments.
No one’s getting hurt about anything, that’s a little overdramatic. Your suggestions are noted. Now please return to commenting on the post in question.
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Naw i'm done here you can ban me if you like.
I like being in control of what I read and write and not being policed over every little thing I say. Jon and all the other readers here are big boys. They can choose not to read a comment and they can choose not to respond.
I like reading the stories here as most of the time they are well-written (even though I sometimes feel they are inaccurate, but thats the fun of debating).
If you wanna police of me like this then I don’t want to be a commenter here anyone and i’m sure you guys dont need my comments, we will both still get to sleep tonight.
My job as a moderator is just to keep comments in line. Just doin my job man, nuthin personal. Enjoy the articles.
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Not a problem
Didn’t take it as personal I just dont like the idea behind it lol.
I like to believe I have the ability to filter things for myself and not need someone to do it for me.
No hard feelings will still read the articles and enjoy myself. :)
Cheers
See, now isn’t that much easier? I didn’t know this. I always found Helwani’s coverage to be pretty balanced. He did interviews with Strikeforce HWs prior to the merger and always struck me as a fan, but also someone who asks probative questions. That’s why I was confused.
He also
defended Fedor’s #1 p4p status until he lost to Werdum. Helwani isn’t a shill, but rather a very good reporter that Dana has taken a liking to, despite the arguments they’ve had.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 16, 2011 4:51 AM EDT up reply actions
around the country
Around the world. It’s a story no one else is telling because they are terrified to cover M-1. It’s to the point that even fans believe a story about M-1 is “advertisement” somehow different than the hundreds of stories we will write about UFC 129.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Of course after the UFC 129 PPV is over we’ll see an almost immediate J-Snow piece about how UFC 129 “fails to impress” irregardless of how good or bad the PPV ends up being.
"irregardless"
is not a word… it’s regardless
You just can’t win.
“Snowden’s too positive about M-1! SHILL! AD EXEC!”
“Did you see Snowden talk shit about Brock and Carwin? He hates the UFC!”
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My point is that everyone goes to extremes about everything he writes. It’s seemingly not possible for people to understand that the guy just seems to like MMA. All of it. Just like the rest of us.
And I feel weird for defending Snowden so much in a piece he can clearly defend himself in now, so I’m gonna stop and go grab a beer or something.
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Because what Snowden writes is never extreme. /eyeroll
C’mon, he wrote a piece about why GSP/Silva shouldn’t happen. He is an admitted contrarian.
Geez, this is what I mean. Sure he CAN be extreme, but he doesn’t go to extremes with EVERYTHING. Not by a long shot. Yet his opponents and nay-sayers never miss an opportunity to go to extremes in response to everything he writes.
As for GSP/Silva, I’ve been saying that for 2 years. That’s not exactly extreme. Lots of people agree with him.
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No to GSP/Silva, Nick Diaz is the greatest man who ever lived, M-1 has been great for Fedor’s career…
Look, I am not trying to blast Snowden here. But to act baffled when people react strongly to what he writes is being niave. Snowden has made a career out of espousing positions which run counter to popular opinion and he makes his points very vehemently. Let’s not pretend we are baffled and don’t know where the reaction comes from.
lol I couldn't agree more
Jon just has a “hey look at me, I know I should be going up the escalator but im going down it! Isn’t that cool!?!?”
All of that is true to a degree,
but its when people reflexively react at seeing his name on the byline, even for a non-controversial piece like this that it gets tiresome…
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
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by The American Ronin on Apr 15, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the MMA hardcore community we’re talking about here. People feel very strongly that M-1 influenced Fedor away from signing with the UFC which they believe hurt his career. They believe that he has become stagnant from training in Stary Oskol, and they feel that M-1 has used Fedor’s career to leverage Strikeforce over a barrel and get a contract with Showtime.
I think this is a fine balance piece to all the negativity that gets spread about M-1 and I believe they tend to get painted as almost cartoonish villains sometimes. But you’d have to be high on the smell of your own farts or never read the comments section on this website to act baffled about the reaction to this piece.
But you’d have to be high on the smell of your own farts
You say this like its a bad thing…
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
Death before dishonor, drinks before lunch.
by The American Ronin on Apr 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the MMA hardcore community we’re talking about here.
Then the MMA hardcore community shoul put their shit together and star to realize what Fedor and his buddies have been trying to do, and a good start is reading this article.
Not everything in the mma universe should orbit around the UFC.
Bussiness are bussiness. Get over it.
by hundswoths on Apr 15, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
M-1
Bad house bands, strippers/escorts as ring girls, and a guarantee that someone will bleed. What’s not to love?
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by Damon O. on Apr 15, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
On a more important topic,
Can even Fedor overcome the hurdle posed by judo, wrestling and sambo in Europe and Asia? When young standouts in these sports evaluate their professional options, there’s a lot more money available than for their American counterparts. Things may change as MMA gains more mainstream acceptance and (more importantly) money but for now that might be the biggest limiting factor for growth across the ocean.
by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Apr 15, 2011 12:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think the ’there’s more money in wrestling for your country’-angle is interesting but it’s not going to be the case for the largest part of Europe’s/Asia’s wrestling/judo/sambo talent pool.
First of, the vast majority of wrestling/judo/sambo talent is NOT getting paid to train or compete. The true elite – i.e. Olympic level talent – may get paid but only the talent in the former Soviet republics can live from the allowance they get. For example: the Dutch judo-team needs all the sponsors they can get just to make a normal living.
Second, there are just so many spots on Olympic and World Cup teams; not all the talent can get a spot. That leaves enough talent for MMA-organisations to scoop up.
The real question is if the few European organisations/promotors can manage to make MMA an accepted sport in the main (Western-)European markets and grow and cultivate an audience that is willing to pay for tickects. Since PPV isn’t big in Europe I guess they’ll need to sell it to the big, commercial, tv-stations. That will only happen if they can prove they can get the viewers to tune in.
Basically, talent getting paid to perform for their respective countries is not the biggest problem for the development of European talents. The lack of a general acceptance of full contact martial arts in large parts of Europe is a much bigger hurdle to take for any promotor.
by basvanderwolk on Apr 15, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to know on all counts
It would seem the cultural approval for those athletes exceeds the financial reality. Very good point about the mainstream resistance; I remember reading translated German articles following their first UFC and feeling very discouraged.
by Forbidden Psychological Technology on Apr 15, 2011 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you look at countries like The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden and Switserland you’ll see that the largest part of the population isn’t ‘down’ with MMA. These also happen to be the richest countries in Europe.
While Poland (ca. 40 million) and England (ca 51 million) have a culture of wrestling and judo (Poland) or boxing (England) they both have strong conservative groups like the catholic church and conservative parties that don’t view MMA as ‘wholesome’ or ‘proper’ entertainment for people to watch let alone compete in. Once the sport get’s more attention it will also come under the scrutiny of these people and the sport, the fighters, the organisors and fans will have to defend themselves. It also doesn’t help that a lot of local promotors have ties with, let’s say, the more questionable part of society.
by basvanderwolk on Apr 15, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks!
Good to see M-1 moving up in the world. I’m going to try to check out the show on Thursday, April 28th.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Apr 15, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
How Much
How much is Vadim paying for these giant M-1 ads?
by NO82 on Apr 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Any other fighter and this is a feature about how they are transitioning from MMA to a life after the cage. Because it’s Fedor, and because of the rampant xenophobia here it’s an “ad.” This is an ad only in the sense that every article we write about a fighter or an event promotes said event.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Many of the stars of tomorrow will compete on a free LIVE card in two weeks. M-1 Challenge XXV: Zavurov vs. Magomedov 2 from St. Petersburg, Russia will be available to viewers worldwide on the official M-1 Global website (www.M-1Global.com) and select affiliate partner sites starting at 11:00am ET / 8:00am PT on Thursday April 28th.
I don’t have a problem with the piece, and this is coming from someone who is far from xenophobic, but this is an ad if I’ve ever seen one.
We run paragraphs like this about every event we cover. In particular, we will be providing this stream at BE. So, I guess it’s an advertisement for this stream we are providing our readers to enjoy the show.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t remember ever seeing an article talking about how great the UFC has been for anybody’s career. It seems like just about every UFC related article is more negative toward the org than positive.
That’s ludicrous. I’ve written thousands of articles and two books about the UFC, almost all of which was glowing praise.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is this not the same kind of information given on essentially every org’s cards when they are discussed?
I think the fact that it is M-1 has everyone feeling sand in their panties today…if this were about Bellator or MFC would anyone be complaining (Sub0 excepted)?
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
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by The American Ronin on Apr 15, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
You’re coming off as someone with a personal agenda against Snowden. Calm down.
by someguy22 on Apr 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WOAH
Is this an intentional trolling post?? You have to be messing with us at this point Jon.
“Many of the stars of tomorrow will compete on a free LIVE card in two weeks. M-1 Challenge XXV: Zavurov vs. Magomedov 2 from St. Petersburg, Russia will be available to viewers worldwide on the official M-1 Global website (www.M-1Global.com) and select affiliate partner sites starting at 11:00am ET / 8:00am PT on Thursday April 28th."
Seriously?? I guess we’re past even bothering to discuss things like ‘journalistic integrity’ at this point, right? Are you just angling for more of your ‘exclusive backstage access’ by shilling for M-1?
How are the people who run BE ok with you posting this? This is just bizarre……
by flingom on Apr 15, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
What the hell?
Giving info about a live stream of a fight is shilling? Look around, there’s info about shows on TV and the internet all over the place here. Journalistic integrity? Because he wrote something positive about a promotion? That’s ridiculous.
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by Tim Burke on Apr 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is a live stream we are carrying at Bloody Elbow. I routinely include event information all the time about the UFC, Strikeforce, and Bellator when I write about them.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I don’t understand people sometimes.
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by Tim Burke on Apr 15, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
They honestly believe anything not critical of an official UFC enemy is “PR.” I asked these guys hard questions about Fedor’s role in the company, his contract, and if they used him to get a deal with Showtime. I don’t really know what else I could have asked them…
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
when you did the story about his ufc contract and it was less than 2million guarranteed, did you ask them if they had signed it and fought brock who always get 1million plus ppv buys what would have been fedors total pay. because that would have been my first question
Yes, I asked him about that. It was years ago of course, so I don’t remember the exact response. It was a very good contract. It just didn’t meet their aims.
I remember writing about it at the time in an opinion piece and advocating Fedor sign with the UFC. But you know what? They were able to get what they wanted going another direction. Maybe we were all wrong?
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
Read the quote I posted. That’s not ‘giving info about a live stream’. If that’s not straight out of M-1 marketing, then it might as well be. “Many of the stars of tomorrow”?? Really? Are they??
And “LIVE” in all capital letters? Wow! I can’t believe i FINALLY get to see some live MMA. Groundbreaking.
I’m ok with the general story being glowing and positive. I don’t know if it’s warranted, since I haven’t seen any real information on whether all the top tier european talent is really ‘flocking’ to M-1. I don’t know how well they pay their fighters, how strong their training facilities are. I’ll say I’ve certainly never heard ‘M-1’ or ‘Red Devil’ on the list of best MMA camps. Not even in the top 10 discussion… Not that you could tell from this article…
I’d love to see an honest assessment of this, but I don’t feel like that’s what I’m reading in this article. At all. There’s zero pro/con, it’s just a puff piece that is indirectly promoting an M-1 event. Nice that he got Fedor and M-1 to comment directly.
He got a bunch of people to comment directly, not just Fedor. It’s talking about an event that will be covered by BE. If you don’t even know anything about the fighters, why are you crucifying the guy offering you some info? Because it’s positive? You don’t even offer an alternate viewpoint because you apparently don’t know anything about the topic. You don’t like it? Go write a fanpost about how bad M-1 is.
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by Tim Burke on Apr 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
"Many of the stars of tomorrow"?? Really? Are they??
I think so. Leland ranked several M-1 prospects on his list as well, including the #1 heavyweight.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
How many "Stars" have they "created"
So just for the benefit of my ‘xenophobic’ mind, can you let me know what star’s the M-1 promotion has built? I know they worked with Mousasi before he dumped them…. But when I check the top 25 list across every single weight class I’m struggling to come up with M-1 names.
Do you know what “tomorrow” means?
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by Tim Burke on Apr 15, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yes?
Excellent question. Yes, I do know what tomorrow means. Not to brag, but I’ve actually integrated it into my working vocabulary quite well.
If an organization is being credited for creating the stars of tomorrow, wouldn’t it be a valuable exercise to assess their success to date? They didn’t just open their doors today, so why don’t we talk about how many stars they’ve built in their years in operation. That was my question, what’s your issue with it?
Really? Because he was talking about tomorrow. And your entire post was about today. You’re making assumptions and leaps in logic that don’t add up to anything except a meaningless argument.
Why don’t you tell me a little about your opinion of the current M-1 fighters on the roster. What’s that? You don’t know any? Riiiight.
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More mma = win
If Russia MMA keeps getting bigger it will be awesome to see all those super athletes in a sports war against Brazil, US or Chinese fighters, then the Turkish, Iranian, even Mexicans!. If M-1 is making this possible for their country we should be thanking them for it.
I don’t understand the hate that M-1 generates for some of the BE commenters, usually the same ones, posts after posts. I love BE for bringing this articles and for educate people by informing that there is more out there than the UFC.
I will be watching the fights in the office using the firefox mini window for boss-eluding purposes.
And if some of the people who throw shit to M-1 take some time to find who these fighters are, I think that you should be as exited as me for watch this fights. If you like to watch fights, technique, honour ant blood, the hype is completely superfluous.
by hundswoths on Apr 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I think you are right
It is simply the old, bad feelings many have toward M-1, feelings they are unable to let go of…
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
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by The American Ronin on Apr 15, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
But they didn't raped their sisters...
Or is that all these hating commentators are old fashion senior citizens with their belt over their bellies that cannot forget the cold war. I just don’t get it.
People still bitter about the whole Fedor to UFC thing I suppose…
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
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by The American Ronin on Apr 15, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I get the impression that
This man helped to co-write the article. Or maybe co-promote it would be more accurate.

by Gitaroo_Dude on Apr 15, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I don't think M-1 will be any bigger than...
what they are now here in the States. As for the fighters training under Fedor in Russia, how much development are they seeing? Fedor hit the ceiling on training over there. He can no longer expect to be at the top of his game by staying in Russia.
by Crazynutts on Apr 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Terrific piece
This article fits nicely with the other BE posts I have read about M-1 wanting to build up Russian MMA. Usually we get a one dimensional picture of a fedor who only fights, but I get the sense that he is a man in transition and his priorities are to have a positive impact for his people rather than the fluctuating love/hate relationship to the mma world.
M-1 could become the next Pride if they invest in their fighters.
…Not the BE comment section’s finest hour, that’s for sure.
by smoogy2 on Apr 15, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 14 recs
Sometimes you know to expect it. This was not one of those times. I thought I was writing something interesting about a man in transition. This response to something I spent so much time on is really disappointing.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
It’s the ugly product of too much hysteria about Fedor and M-1 negotiating contracts, too much flippant, thinly veiled racist rhetoric about “crazy russians”, and not enough knowledge about the actual M-1 Selection and M-1 Challenge events, which are unquestionably “good for the sport”. The well has been poisoned for rational discussion of M-1 Global.
by smoogy2 on Apr 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I thought it was a good piece and it shows that Fedor is intent on hanging around MMA long after he is done fighting to help up and comers become stars. Russian MMA can go a long way, and as any logical MMA fan I would want it to grow and keep growing. Enough with the bullshit about M-1 = mafia and all that stuff. Las Vegas isn’t much cleaner than Eastern Europe.
Direct quotes from one of my favorite fighters = win for me. Also I didn’t know Baby Fedor is only 22? wow, was he only like 19 or something when he fought at the affliction card?
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by LowkickGreed on Apr 15, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
To your credit, Snowden,
this is a fine article, and the people decrying it as a shill job are, well… idiots. I enjoyed the piece.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 16, 2011 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions
And that’s a rec…
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by The American Ronin on Apr 15, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
All people do is hate on M1 cuz Fedor didnt come to the UFC and Dana told them these guys are crazy Russians
I watched the last M1 show on Showtime it was pretty good. Why even read this article if its an advertisement? I don’t go complain to companies about their ads on tv. I just change the channel or ignore them. Seems to me all these commenters are telling you how to do your job Jon.
by Papercut Elbow on Apr 15, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the BE moderators is one of those people who needs to pop into every M-1 thread and announce how he won’t be supporting them or watching M-1 Challenge because of their “evil ways”. It’s an uphill battle just to have a rational discussion of M-1 around here.
One of the BE moderators is one of those people who needs to pop into every M-1 thread and announce how he won’t be supporting them or watching M-1 Challenge because of their "evil ways".
That’s just false.
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by Chris Barton on Apr 15, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude
Like I just posted below, unless I am seriously just not thinking of someone on staff I am the most “anti-M1” guy here and I don’t do that.
Maybe you’re confused as to who is a moderator?
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by Chris Barton on Apr 15, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Not listed as such if he is.
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by The American Ronin on Apr 15, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhh
Once upon a time, iirc. No longer.
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by Chris Barton on Apr 15, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to hear who.
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 15, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
I am the most negative about M1 on staff and I have no issue with their events at all. I love seeing more Eastern Europeans getting into MMA. I just think they fucked Fedor.
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by Chris Barton on Apr 15, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I despise what the management/agent side of the company has done to the tail-end of Fedor’s career, but the fight promotion side of the business is good for the sport. I think most people are just too narrow-minded to separate the two.
While I find some of the information interesting...
as others have noted, it reads very much like a shill piece. You get some interesting comments from the promoter, and even though much of it feels questionable, you do little in the form of critical commentary. Do you truly believe that Fedor’s contract signing with Showtime had no part in helping M-1 get their event deal?
I can’t help but feel that if these same sort of quotes came from the UFC, you would’ve torn them to pieces over it. Instead here you just sound like a mouthpiece who was happy to get a little extra access to M-1, and wanted to make sure you maintain favour with them for future access.
by Meeaaat on Apr 15, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is a feature article. My opinion on anything belongs nowhere near it.
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of these guys...
Or, as Jerome Bettis said when the Jay Cutler stuff was going on “If you smell shit everywhere you go, it just might be you.”
Applies to haters in general…
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by The American Ronin on Apr 15, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And yet....
….You stated the following:
M-1 has “many of the stars of tomorrow” on it’s roster
Fedor is the “greatest fighter of all time”
etc.
Aren’t these your opinions? Seems like they must’ve snuck in where they don’t belong.
Any form of article be it a news article, technology assessment or a grocery list is bias in nature.
No matter how hard someone tries to not be bias its not a realistic expectation for someone not to be at least somewhat.
It is the responsibility of the writer however to properly bring across the point (or points) of a story. Whether or not you felt he did this should be the question.
Well many of the M-1 fighters are found on the top prospects lists given here at BloodyElbow, including the #1 heavyweight.
Also, Fedor, if not the greatest fighter of all time, has to be in the top 3. These “opinions” he gave, are quite obvious and uniform opinions from anyone who has watched MMA for longer than 6 months.
It’s not like he’s throwing in revelations like “M-1 is sure to catch up to the UFC with it’s rising stars” or stuff like that.
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by LowkickGreed on Apr 15, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
One line of questioning I would really have appreciated would have been about the in-lines that MMA promoters, agents and recruiters are making into Russian wrestling (or lack thereof).
We probably won’t see a Buvaisar Saitiev or Karelin in MMA, but maybe M-1 can get Buvaisar’s little brother or someone who’s ranked 15 – 20 in their weight division.
Also: What happened to Aleks?
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The champion himself puts it simply. “I hope that the stars of tomorrow will always have a platform to showcase their skills,” the legendary Emelianenko told Bloody Elbow. “I’m proud that I can contribute to the sport after I move past competing.”
More than just an promotion, M-1 is an outlet and stage for young stars, as long as that idea is held true, M-1 will grow.
I criticize M1 AND Snow all the time but you guys are spazzing right now...
lots of people up in arms and grasping at straws over nothing.
BTW good job on the anti-homophobia piece.
by Dr.WavvyCrockett on Apr 15, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
The online MMA community holds grudges forever
Or until someone pulls off a ridiculous KO or a crazy submission. M-1, while they do have a past that’s a bit on the shady side, does not deserve the blind criticism that they get when they are trying to move the sport forward. I still stand by my comment about the production though lol.
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Is that a Recent Pic? Fedor looks effing LEAN!!
I swear I hope the catchweight bout is just a prelude to him coming down to 205 permanently. He can easily be the most dangerous LHW in the world IMO. Great article Snowden. Haters gonna Hate.
I’m not a big fan of M-1 the management company and their handling of Fedor sometimes, but there shouldn’t be too much complaining about M-1 the promotion. They provide a good platform for international prospects coming up, especially guys from eastern Europe who might otherwise have been lost in the shuffle. I can’t say I’ve watched a lot of their shows, but the ones I did were good, and I thought their first on Showtime a few weeks back was great. Some really good fighters I hadn’t really seen before, and entertaining bouts. Can’t really ask for more.
Wow, so every post that involved information on how and when to watch is shilling? Maybe if the even was going to be garbage without a doubt, I could see why Snowden’s “selling” of the event could be fussed over…but M-1 typically puts on solid shows, and has some good talent on the come up. It’s actually the type of event that the media SHOULD be pushing for fans of the sport to watch.
Great piece Snowden.
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In Snowden's defense
Helwani did the same thing on his MMA hour with Kogan I thought the interview was one sided and Helwani didn’t ask may of the tough questions that should have been asked. Junkie are also guilty in some crazy interviews.
It’s amazing that you are pretending to know what I asked them about. What questions would you have liked me to ask?
by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 15, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
1.
I compare M-1 Global to Fedor’s shield, an entity that stands up for and protects his interests."From whom? Couldn’t you build the M-1 brand while Fedor is in the UFC?
2. Which comes first M-1 Global promotion or Fedor’s growth and legacy as a fighter?
3. Wouldn’t it be much more beneficial to Fedor’s legacy if he were to fight in the UFC against real competition?
4. Can M-1 Global recognize that the UFC is the premiere organization and have its fighters sign with UFC?
5.
We leveraged our existing relationship but the general public should understand that Fedor’s contract and the M-1 Challenge events are separate agreements.Isn’t there a conflict of interest between managing Fedor and running M-1 Global promotion?
To name a quick few.
Wouldn’t it be much more beneficial to Fedor’s legacy if he were to fight in the UFC against real competition?
LOL, is this supposed to be a fair question? Talk about loaded. Apparently Fedor fought real enough competition that he lost. Two times.
by VirtualBalboa on Apr 15, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're right, too emotional but
His managers/business partners view Fedor as a bargaining chip for M-1 Global and not necessarily to his best interest as a fighter, which could be his thinking too. But from what I heard from Fedor he lets Vadim run his career.
“What you’ve heard” is the same rumor and innuendo on the internet that everyone else has heard and repeated endlessly until it became truth. Of the questions you brought up in the piece that ran earlier in the week, #1 was answered pretty definitively. #2 is a loaded question with an obvious “a-ha!” answer. #3 is a loaded question based around an assumed truth that is anything but. #4 has an obvious answer. #5 has an obvious answer. You don’t like the obvious answers, so you want a hit piece to reinforce your pre-existing beliefs.
Why not just say that you want to only read negative things about M-1? Make it clear where you stand.
by VirtualBalboa on Apr 15, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't hide it I think it's crazy how they handeled Fedor's Career
and now trying to cover it with some bullshit about the growth of Russian MMA. Rumor and innuendos? you hear Fedor himself describe his relationship with Vadim or Fedor’s brother I know Fedor claimed that his brother knows nothing about contracts but really their business and handling of Fedor’s career is almost criminal.
Second you say obvious. What’s so obvious? Can they explain these questions? I would love to hear these questions answered DWhas been asked many “obvious” questions and answered them.
You don’t hide it and that’s what you want to hear. Reinforcement. Anything that doesn’t agree with what you’ve already decided is a lie, right?
How would you like M-1 to explain to you that the UFC will not sign anyone with an existing promotional contract in such a way that it pleases you?
by VirtualBalboa on Apr 15, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't need reinforcment
I didn’t say anything is a lie all I’m saying is that the way M-1 Global managed Fedor’s career was wrong it is my opinion and I try to support it with facts. Like the amount of money Fedor could have made being in the UFC and I will trust Snowden’s article that it wasn’t the $30 we heard but with the exposure sponsors and PPV it was in his best interest to sign. But it didn’t go hand in hand with M-1 Global promotion aspirations so they declined it. They weren’t looking at Fedor’s best interests they were looking at their own. As for the second question the UFC had agreed to sign Fedor and have go with M-1 all over him.
Why do you necessarily try to support your opinion with facts? Shouldn’t the totality of all “facts” be taken into consideration before coming to a conclusion? If you are looking for facts to back up your belief, then you are looking to have your opinions and beliefs reinforced.
There are plenty of facts. You should go back, in fact, to re-read many of the articles written over the years instead of reading people’s comments on blogs about them.
by VirtualBalboa on Apr 16, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
If you are looking for facts to back up your belief, then you are looking to have your opinions and beliefs reinforced.
mmm..Ah ya I don’t just come up with ideas and say Amen I do want my opinions and beliefs supported by facts. What you’re saying is a little weird and the second part contradict what you said in the first.
Honestly...
I don’t see the difference. We’re on a site that boasts the personalities of fighters as “Warriors,” that routinely discusses and puts forward exact start times of events, that continually uses terms like “legend in the making”, “future hall of famer”, “trailblazer”, that exults the names of Couture, Severn, Nogueira, etc., that has called it for and against the Strikeforce buyout, that contually has said that the UFC is the number one MMA promotion on the face of the Earth, that has discussed the intrincacies of Dana White’s business acumen in spite of his faults.
These days it gives similar treatment to M-1, just the same way it has been to all the other promotions using the same exact kind of ‘flair’ in the writing, but people decided to cry afoul just now? Really, guys?
Guys, you know who you are, you are fucking morons. Get off your high horses.
by Unabomberman on Apr 15, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Thanks for the piece Jon. Rec’d.
It’s good to see M-1 get some coverage, looking forward to checking out some of their prospects in two weeks.
His fighting career has secured him financially but there will come a day when he retires, when this will happen only he can say. But when this day comes, Fedor will always continue to be involved in the sport and having a share in Europe’s leading mixed martial arts promotion will not only provide financial benefits but will also ensure his legacy lives on.
This is good to hear. I was really hoping Fedor would stick around to work and train with the young blood after he retires; he still has a great deal to offer especially with regards to the mental aspects of the sport (I wonder if these guys are going to learn how to throw a punch without changing facial expression). The guy carried himself like a true champion, even in defeat. That’s something I hope to see more of, and if Fedor can facilitate more of that all the better.
by StreetofCrocodiles on Apr 15, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting article
Russia is rally an un-tapped land for high level MMA and I applaud M1 for promoting these fighters.
When are they going to have some cross-pollination with their world-class wrestling program?
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by The American Ronin on Apr 15, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The most puzzling thing about this article is that author fails to name a single Russian prospect who trains out of Red Devil gym.
M-1 has a lot of talented guys on their roster like Guram, Sarnavskiy, Vasilevsky or Zavurov, but none of them trains with Fedor.
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