Canadian Promotion to Implement Pride Rules
by Mike Fagan on Apr 13, 2011 6:57 PM EDT
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There is a lot to miss about Pride. The pageantry. The stars. The giant checks. The Yakuza influence. A bare-assed Nobuhiko Takada banging on a giant drum.
For many, however, the biggest loss in Pride's demise was the ruleset: knees and soccer kicks to the head allowed, elbows not allowed. Pasqualino Santoro and his Colosseo Championship Fighting plan to bring those rules over to North America on July 23rd. MMA Junkie reports:
Now, more than a year later, Colosseo is planning another event for July 23 that will employ mostly American talent.
Its promoter, Pasqualino Santoro, intends to up the action by using the ruleset of another Japanese promotion, the now-defunct PRIDE Fighting Championships. The soccer kicks and stomps used in PRIDE will stay at Santoro's event, dubbed "Colosseo Championship Fighting 6: Bushido."
The article notes that fighters such as Marius Zaromskis, Shane Nelson, James Irvin, and Rob Emerson are in negotiations for the event.
The article also indicates that the event will be sanction by the International Combative Sports Association, which is not affiliated with the Association of Boxing Commissions. A Google search for the organization brings up this Angelfire-looking website and the MMA Junkie article when searching for the exact phrase.
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Hmm...
War Whitemare
"I am going to punch faces." --Wanderlei Silva
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Bad idea but probably a promotion gimmick.
by Rufford on Apr 13, 2011 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
PRIDE NEVER DIE
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by SSreporters on Apr 13, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
yea it'll work solidly
regional promotions should do more things like this, that whole don frye-bas rutten thing worked out nicely for shark fights i think
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Why is it a bad idea?
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I’m a fan of the ruleset but I’m talking about public sentiment and policy. Isn’t MMA still newly sanctioned in some provinces?
Also, do any smaller promotions allow stomps and soccer kicks in the states? The reservations are supposedly unregulated.
dont you have a discussion on girls guide to mma to get to?
Don’t look a gift soccer kick in the mouth.
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by the-gentle-way on Apr 13, 2011 7:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Breaking news!
Wanderlei Silva & Mauricio Rua ask to be released from contracts in order to fight in Canadian MMA promotion!
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 13, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Nick Diaz too.
And his manager also released a pretty confusing statement where he blamed Strikeforce selling out, his adhd, and high petroleum use as issues.
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by Neil Manich on Apr 13, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
He still has some unfinished business
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by SSreporters on Apr 13, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 18 recs
Hell yeah
He nearly kicked his head off. I was going nuts when that happened lol
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Man I wish he would've done it.
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by T.C. Engel on Apr 13, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Definitely would not have ended his career.
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by Neil Manich on Apr 13, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’d have been DQ’d, fired from the UFC for what amounts to a cheap shot, and at this stage in his career it would’ve forced his retirement.
But since we’re dealing with a fictional scenario, we’ll never know.
He probably would have just been DQed and that would have been it
If Bisping was able to continue (but come on this is Bisping) he would have simply been docked a point.
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I don’t believe this one second, mainly because it’s wanderlei we’re talking about, the man know for his usage of soccer kick, it would be forgotten after an apology.
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Agreed. He’d get DQ’d and apoligize, don’t see anything more coming out of it. Clearly heat of the moment type thing, it’s not like he was going to attack him after the bell or continually stomp his face while the ref was trying to pull him off.
by Horselover Fat on Apr 14, 2011 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions
ummmmm thats ridiculous.
It happens all the time.
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by the-gentle-way on Apr 13, 2011 7:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BAN MICHAEL BISPING!!!
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by RolloTomasi on Apr 13, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
BAN HIM NOW!!!!
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by RolloTomasi on Apr 13, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
do they call them futbol kicks in brazil?
by zuffazombie on Apr 13, 2011 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I particularly enjoyed the part of the article where Santoro claimed he doesn’t watch the the UFC because the unified rules are ‘boring’, yet all but one of the guys mentioned as possible fighters are UFC veterans who have spent their entire careers fighting under the unified rules.
How did Santoro pick those guys if he has never seen them fight?
Irvin seems like a rational choice.
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by pdl on Apr 13, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
The fuck was Yamasaki doing?
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by Neil Manich on Apr 13, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
dont piss the guy off that is clearly jacked on gear and high on oxycontin off?
Step in after he has calmed down. It seems like the safest strategy.
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by the-gentle-way on Apr 13, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wasnt that the fight he pissed hot for?
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by the-gentle-way on Apr 13, 2011 7:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No. He pissed hot after the Anderson Silva fight. He’s pissed hot at least once or twice since then.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
Ramirez takes a shot well and his eyes were always on Irvin.
It looks ugly especially from that angle, but it’s not an awful call like when Mazzagatti made Cyborg get down from the fence to knock that girl out a second time.
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by pdl on Apr 13, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh God, the Cyborg vs. Shayna Baszler fight. Quite possibly one of the most bizarre endings to a fight ever.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
lmao
I laughed until I cried when I watched that. In fact. You just made my day by reminding me.
Or when tan dan let carwin dribble mir’s head on the canvas. I was like “did Mir steal tan dans chick or something? Why does he hate him?”
(I know there’s something wrong with me)
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"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Apr 13, 2011 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That was one of the few stoppages where it was so late that I feared for the fighter’s health.
In the clearing stands a boxer And a fighter by his trade And he carries the reminders Of ev'ry glove that layed him down Or cut him till he cried out In his anger and his shame "I am leaving, I am leaving" But the fighter still remains
the mir one was a touch scary.
That one didn’t make me laugh. I was more like wtf … is he gonna be ok.
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"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Apr 13, 2011 8:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
More than half of those shots were back of the head, and the one that made him go limp was base of the skull at the spine.
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by The American Ronin on Apr 13, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i remember there was a second where carwin looked up at TanDan like "are you gonna stop this" and dan didnt....
And then Carwin was like fuck it…. did his best globe trotters impression with Mir’s head.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Apr 14, 2011 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ugh... worst one ever.
Whole arena went silent and you could just hear it like a guy hitting a steak with a baseball bat.
that was Brutal.....
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by the-gentle-way on Apr 14, 2011 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"FINISH HIM"
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 13, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Was this the Hector Ramirez fight against Sandman?
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Any chance...
we might be lucky enough to see some organization bring back the same judging system they had in Pride?
how is james irvin still getting fights?
He keeps losing and testing positive for banned substances! One would think that would kind of create an uproar in the mma community, but hey, it would only be a big deal if he were still in the UFC right?
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by Austin Martin on Apr 13, 2011 7:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
FUCK YEAH
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by Bonedoctor on Apr 13, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Angelfire looking website
Lol that’s sad.
by itsnotthatserious on Apr 13, 2011 7:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
at first I was like...but then I was like
by newuploader1 on Apr 13, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Awesome
Hopefully some of the bigger orgs will follow suit and differentiate themselves from the UFC.
Google Ron Paul!
Not a chance
There called athletic commissions
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by MattParker117 on Apr 13, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I'm gonna get slammed for this
But I think this guy is an attention seeking idiot doing a “look at me” me dance to generate attention he pulled the same bullshit a year ago with DREAM’s ruleset and honestly I don’t think he gives two shits either way about the sport (I doubt any decent AC will licence him again after this). I’m glad than any fighter competing at this ridiculous event will be suspended and I hope this money grabbing idiot fails. There are many reasons the ACB insists on the unified rules this is a sport remember not a barfight.
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Looks like they're based in Edmonton
If this is the case, being sanctioned by an international commission isn’t legal. Promotions must be sanctioned by provincial commissions (which can be delegated to municipalities).
Looks like they tried this before.
http://topmmanews.com/2009/12/16/edmonton-commission-confirms-dream-rules/
Don’t know if that card went ahead or not.
Hey, a bunch of guys are about to fight and not get paid
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by Forrest Lynn on Apr 13, 2011 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
This is probably the most likely outcome.
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Pretty much
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by Derek Suboticki on Apr 13, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha Angelfire
A Google search for the organization brings up this Angelfire-looking website
Reminds me of my old H.S. website that I made (got an A).
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Hopefully this works out well, most likely it will not :( All MMA should change their rules to this, plus elbows.
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by The One Who Wears The Crown on Apr 13, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
Other orgs need to follow Colosseo's lead
I’m so psyched for this. I assume they’re also holding it in a ring? Either way, it should be a really nice change from the watered down Unified Rules, and swing in the right direction back towards real mixed martial arts.
i usually cringe when i see a soccer head kick and stomps
am i the only one that likes the rules UFC has in place?
some of those shots can kill a man
some of those shots can kill a man
Yeah, just look at how many people died in Pride! Millions.
by Pyrgz Krum on Apr 13, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
C’mon let’s be serious, here. Only a few thousand people died from stomps and soccer kicks.
by BBQ Show on Apr 13, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
That’s not true.
The Chute Boxe guys alone wiped out whole villages. They were like tiny Brazilian Godzillas, just stomping on everything in their path. They were even going to do a Godzilla versus Chute Boxe film, but the Chute Boxe guys killed everyone on the set.
by Steve4192 on Apr 14, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
To be fair,
they drew them into videotaped backstage fights, cut out right in the middle of the fight, and come back in with a triangle choke suddenly applied to the opponent until they passed out.
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 14, 2011 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the knees to a grounded opponent, but I would rather not have soccer kicks or head stomps.
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by The American Ronin on Apr 14, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I want it all. I want MMA to be as close to real unarmed combat as possible, with just the obvious danger zones like groin shots and eyegouging to be banned. So I would prefer Pride rules + elbows.
But I can sort of understand why stomps and maybe soccer kicks are banned, I still miss them though. However, knees to the head of grounded opponent is severely lacking in the Unified Rules, and there’s really no good reason why they shouldn’t be allowed. Oh and also upkicks should ALWAYS be allowed, even if your opoonent is on both knees. That rule is just stupid as it is now.
by Horselover Fat on Apr 14, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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The regulation in Edmonton already expressly permits Pride rules
And Edmonton hosted a WEC event sometime last year, didn’t it?
I sort of expected someone to do this.
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