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GSP: Anderson Silva "Is Huge" and Weighs "Around 230 Pounds"

Georges St. Pierre talks about the Anderson Silva super-fight in an interview at UFC on Versus 3:
"I don’t know (about fighting Anderson Silva). I need to sit down with my entourage and see first where this fight will take place and what weight, and a bunch of stuff. Right now I’m focusing just on Jake Shields, I don’t see further than Jake Shields."

"It would take a long time (to add the size). Anderson Silva is a huge guy; he’s weighing around 230 pounds. He's very big. Even when he fights as a light heavyweight, he looks bigger than the other guys."

"I don’t know if I’m going to go up (to) 185. I have no idea; it’s a complete reorientation of my career. I have a lot to lose and I haven’t thought about it, I haven’t sat down to talk about it."

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Remember when GSP was fighting BJ, and he said in an interview “BJ is a big buy, bigger than I”

by jhf884 on Mar 4, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

K1 level weight-cutting.

THREE MUSKATEERS BAR P4P BEST HALLOWEEN CANDY

by BloodbathAndBeyond on Mar 4, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

If he truly said that then . . .

I don’t know about a super-fight with Silva ever happening.

I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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VEe is ANIMated!

by VeeisAnimated on Mar 5, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Mar 4, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Goldie is an inadvertent racist

See my tags for reference

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Cheick Kongo looks like a cross between Evander Holyfield and pop singer Seal!
Melvin Guilard looks like a little Kevin Randelman!
-Mike "All black people look alike to me" Goldberg, UFC 62/64

by Jonnycaz2.0 on Mar 5, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

GSP has been watching the wrong guy’s fights this whole time?

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by Fake Emcee on Mar 4, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw Cheick Kongo walking around downtown

He was much skinnier than I thought. He must blow up for his fights.

FWIW, he’s 233lbs in that picture.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me guess

he had hair too?

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by Fake Emcee on Mar 4, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

beat me to it.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

He creeped me out.

I thought he was stalking me again.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 5, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Again?

Like I ever stopped…

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by Fake Emcee on Mar 5, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Well....

I never quit paying you to do it, so that makes sense.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 5, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

How did you know?

seriously.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Uhh...

I know you probably wouldn’t believe this, but Inception IS possible!

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by Fake Emcee on Mar 4, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah

I’ve just seen you post that story before.

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by Fake Emcee on Mar 4, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah....

I been here too long.

I’m going to the Fight Night 24 in Seattle so I’ll have some new shit to say…. for a week or so.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going for the Phil Davis show. :)

But mainly Rumble vs Hardy.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 5, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Rumble/Hardy should be fun.

If Dan drops that fight I’ll be super bummed.

BJJ > Sambo

by lowellthehammer on Mar 5, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope Rumble wins

I also hope he makes weight.

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Mar 5, 2011 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

First UFC?

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 5, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

No.

But the first one in my hometown. :)

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Mar 5, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice

102 was the best show I’ve ever seen in person.

Better than MNF or Lakers/Blazers.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 5, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm stoked as shit.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 5, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Weren't you supposed to get married or something?

Don’t tell me the bride found those over-sized stripper panties under your bed.

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by Fake Emcee on Mar 5, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope

Still engaged. Weddings cost money. Soon though.

The only oversized underwear my girls would leave around is a bra.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 5, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

He also had hair on his head and was wearing glasses.

Wasn’t sure it was him till I saw him later at the arena.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

"I don’t know if I’m going to go up (to) 185. I have no idea

then why the fuck is everyone keeps saying that GSP will?

People do not like to think. If one thinks, one must reach conclusions. Conclusions are not always pleasant.

- Helen Keller

by The Blackula on Mar 4, 2011 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

I know everyone is assuming Dana can bully him into it

by AHutch on Mar 4, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Because of what Dana said a little while back when he said if Silva made it past Sonnen and if GSP beats Shields, then Anderson/GSP could happen then. Everyone sort of assumed that all systems were go. Guess not.

by Hardcase on Mar 4, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Because every one wants the fight. GSP has been reluctant, tentative, hesitant about it from Day 1.

I think Silva crazy enough to drop more weight.

I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 5, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

If GSP gets offered this fight by Dana, he'll do the Nick Diaz

“I’ll fight at any weight you want me to, but I, like, wanna get paid a couple million fucking dollars”

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by Chris Groves on Mar 4, 2011 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

He needs it. His ferrari is breaking down all the time. Expensive mechanic repairs.

by chunkyass on Mar 4, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Difference also being that GSP would actually get paid that million something dollars.

by MMAussie on Mar 5, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

"Anderson Silva is huge"

Well I have heard stories that women cannot ‘andle Silva’s size or ’is riddum.

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by SSreporters on Mar 4, 2011 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

GSP likes being a rock star. He is the WW champ, makes money, is famous in Canada, probably gets the VIP treatment, he doenst want to ever have a Serra moment again.

Moving up to MW he isnt hte champ and would have ot fight bigger fighters.

Its alot to risk. He can just stay at WW and fi ght whoever and continue to win and be the best WW ever and make money etc.

It is alot to risk when your the one moving up in weight.

by Aldo27 on Mar 4, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

You said it.

The risk is huge. The only way I see that fight happening is at a catchweight of around 177-178. Which i doubt silva can even fucking due if he walked around at 230. I dont think he will vacate. He will murder shields then fight Bj penn and retire his ass.

Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. Bruce Lee.

by RJshock 305 on Mar 4, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I (and several others here) have long maintained that this should be (and is far more likely to happen) at a 178-180 CW rather than GSP moving up.

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 4, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

is famous in Canada everywhere

by stiffUpperLip on Mar 4, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

translation to aldo27's post

GSP is a pussy who doesn’t want to test himself to see if he’s the very best. I am a GSP fan but I’m tired of his whinin already. If you can handily pretty much beat your division, then challenge yourself, show your character.

Prove you are the best P4P fighter and if you lose to a guy who wins b/c of his size, then you have not failed- that is a warrior, an athlete who isn’t afraid of testing his mettle and coming out on top win or lose. I’m tired of hearing all these excuses lately from him and other fighters re: teammates, etc.

by theflyingtsunami on Mar 5, 2011 2:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

ha ha ha , GSP is a pussy is a good one . I’m just wondering what kind of an alpha male , real manly man you are that you can type that shit without feeling somewhat ridiculous.

by JoelMan on Mar 5, 2011 5:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe it. Georges looked fucking gigantic on the video blog.

"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard

by Earl Montclair on Mar 4, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

I can't read.

"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard

by Earl Montclair on Mar 4, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i lol'd

So let me get this straight: the WWE has gone from the powerful "Austin 3:16" to the dominant and iconic "Can you smell what the Rock is cooking?" all the way to... (cue baby voice) "You can't see me." Oh, believe me, we all can see you. A blind-folded, sleeping, stuck in the basement, Stevie Wonder can see your monkey ass. - The Rock

by Rod Mapada on Mar 4, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with a snack everyone in a while right?

Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. Bruce Lee.

by RJshock 305 on Mar 4, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

try and stay under people’s heads please MDH

by amoladora on Mar 4, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

"I am very confident this fight can go either way"

by SpL on Mar 5, 2011 6:09 AM EST up reply actions  

He has no challenges left at WW if he gets past Jake shields. I don’t wanna say he’s ducking Anderson but at the same time if you’ve cleaned out your division why not challenge yourself?

by 775assassin on Mar 4, 2011 9:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

because he'll get mauled and he knows it

My 6-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.

by SundaysWithTroy on Mar 5, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I would love to him get his ass kicked.

by 775assassin on Mar 5, 2011 1:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If somehow the planets align

and Shields pulls a Ginormous rabbit out of his ass and beat GSP then he will have no choice but to move up to 185.

by MMA_Revolution on Mar 4, 2011 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

HUH?!

Mark my words if GSP loses he will fight Condit and Fitch and get his title back.

Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. Bruce Lee.

by RJshock 305 on Mar 4, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If GSP loses, no matter what the manner....

Dana will have booked the rematch before the official decision is called. I don’t think that the UFC is interested in swapping out GSP for Shields (you might as well have drying paint as the WW champ), and will force Shields to do it again, a la Edgar-Penn.

by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 4, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

"The judges fucked this one up again"

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

“You know what they say about 18th UFC fight jitters…that shit’s real”

by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 5, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Why would he have to move up to 185? It seems to me like it would be much more logical to keep him at 170 and eventually get a rematch with Shields.

by Brad Ackerson on Mar 4, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

not that I believe Andy to be 230 lbs, but on the last interview that I translated the reporter mentioned that Anderson weighs over 100 kilos off-season, which he supposedly heard from Anderson himself, who in turn did not correct that claim. 100 kilos = 220 lbs. Maybe he saw that interview and took it as fact?

yo no quiero hacer mas nada

by Orcus on Mar 4, 2011 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

Off season means he probably packs on some fat on top of his natural weight.

I bet he stays in shape but I doubt he is too religious about weight when he isn’t training for a fight. He’s probably a good 10+ pounds lighter than his off-season weight when he is actually ready to start cutting.

by Roa on Mar 4, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

when you’re not worried about weight, isn’t that your natural weight?

yo no quiero hacer mas nada

by Orcus on Mar 4, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Logic would dictate yes.

"If it's undisputed, what's all the fighting about?"

by Ephemeral Artery on Mar 4, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I shook his hand in-between his fights

And he was much bigger than me, and I am 6’2" 230. Granted, I have a beer belly, but I also have a PhD in weight-estimating. I would not be surprised if he was 220.

BOOSH

by Farthammer on Mar 4, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

good insight!

yo no quiero hacer mas nada

by Orcus on Mar 4, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen him in person too

He is almost as big as Minotauro.

Way bigger than Rashad Evans.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It's his frame

It doesn’t seem like he has much meat on him, but he has a very large frame. And I keep hearing this “he looks huge in person” observation about Anderson.

by crazybones on Mar 4, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, I take the first part back. He’s packed on quite a bit of muscle since joining the UFC. Not nearly as bony as he used to be.

by crazybones on Mar 4, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

After those comments

I hope Jake Shields leg humps him to a UD.

Just Breed!

by ScoreCardOTN on Mar 4, 2011 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

You shut your whore mouth!

"Every time I talk on the phone with someone who doesn’t know me, they call me "ma’am"." - Scott C. Broussard

by Earl Montclair on Mar 4, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Anderson's weight is totally unknown, no?

I’ve read alot of contradicting information regarding AS’ weight. I recall before 112 he claimed that he didn’t cut water weight, that he diets down to 185. I’ve also heard the same speculation that he walks around above 215. He certainly looks as big as the 205ers. I’ve also heard AS claim that he could maybe still make 170, like he used to.

There’s just no way of knowing where this guy is really at.

by Schwizzles on Mar 4, 2011 9:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I want to see this fight every bit as bad as the next guy but if he really doesn’t feel comfortable with the idea of moving up to MW then he shouldn’t do it. That said, at the end of the day I’m sure Dana will end up getting what he wants.

by Brad Ackerson on Mar 4, 2011 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

That said, at the end of the day I’m sure Dana will end up getting what he wants.

Like signing Fedor? Yeah, right.

So let me get this straight: the WWE has gone from the powerful "Austin 3:16" to the dominant and iconic "Can you smell what the Rock is cooking?" all the way to... (cue baby voice) "You can't see me." Oh, believe me, we all can see you. A blind-folded, sleeping, stuck in the basement, Stevie Wonder can see your monkey ass. - The Rock

by Rod Mapada on Mar 4, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Or seeing Fedor lose after he didn't sign with the UFC

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by Chris Groves on Mar 4, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

huh?

I was just making a jab, not a comparison.

Someone said Dana gets what he wants ‘like signing Fedor?’ and I added ‘or seeing Fedor lose once he didn’t sign with the UFC’

I was just being a smartass and saying Dana did end up getting what he wanted. I wasn’t really making a comment on the GSP-Anderson situation. But I bet that if Dana formally offered GSP the fight, more than likely GSP would take it.

But I’m expecting Shields to be the spoiler here anyway, so it’s a moot point.

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by Chris Groves on Mar 5, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

What was the difference in weight between Fedor and Werdum?

Since he was the first guy that beat him. And Fedor is a heavyweight that chose to fight other heavyweights. It’s not like he normally fights at light heavy then moved up for the one fight.

by black dragon on Mar 5, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh...

It’s always great seeing two of the very best go toe-to-toe, but I think the size discrepancy is too great, in this case. Andy is just too big…

I do think Andy could move up, tho, as he is on par with most of the LHW division.

Eh… whatev’s.

by Atomic Salmon on Mar 4, 2011 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

Georges looks on par with most MWs IMO.

yo no quiero hacer mas nada

by Orcus on Mar 4, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Because...

GSP has been working for years trying to create the perfect welterweight body. He has honed dense muscle mass for the weight to muscle ratio that gives him an advantage over most.

That said, that build advantage for him does not exist at MW.

by Mastertofue on Mar 4, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, GSP, your legacy

that one you talk about every once in a while, could be:

1. The great fighter who decisioned every contender in his category
OR
2. The utter badass who beat the P4P #1 fighter in the world in his own weight class.

by dribblebib on Mar 4, 2011 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

Really.

People act as if all he did was wrestle hump then all to a UD.

Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. Bruce Lee.

by RJshock 305 on Mar 4, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

GSP vs. Kos 2 should of been stopped

Kos may never get feeling back on the right side of his face. That fight and last nights Kampmann vs Sanchez war reminded me how truly violent this sport can be at times.

And this is coming from a guy who is indifferent to GSP and thinks he will get victimized against Silva.

People do not like to think. If one thinks, one must reach conclusions. Conclusions are not always pleasant.

- Helen Keller

by The Blackula on Mar 4, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya.

When i read that he might not have feeling in the right side of his face again i was in shock.
To think GSP jabs did that much damage is incredible.

Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. Bruce Lee.

by RJshock 305 on Mar 4, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

if only he lost feeling in the mouth

by amoladora on Mar 4, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

That was diego last night.

Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. Bruce Lee.

by RJshock 305 on Mar 4, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

finally

so much talk from everywhere and everyone but him.
it’s been said before, we need some consistency with champions in terms of recognizable people and faces. anderson recently said he’ll retire at middleweight—even with never losing, unlike GSP—and his light heavyweight fights were either gifts to dana or punishment from dana. gsp staying @ welterweight is good for both his ‘legacy’ and the commercial success of the sport (in terms of the ever-growing importance of brand recognition regarding products and services).
how this whole ordeal taints or shines his legacy is beyond disbelief. his dominance is anomalous—well, near anomalous—and his history within the sport is unquestionably legendary

We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us." - Charles Bukowski

by one.two on Mar 4, 2011 9:38 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Well said.

I want GSP to dominate Anderson Silva, but the fact that he remains the superior welterweight for years will matter more in the long run.
Why? because he can make a name for himself synonymous with all of the legends of sports. Future fighters will enter the division with just the admiration and respect for the great that came before him.

And so be it, though I hate him, perhaps AS could get a similar rep as well to inspire new mma athletes.

But regardless if they fight, one will lose, and then we have a tainted legend like Fedor.

by Mastertofue on Mar 4, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

And so be it, though I hate him, perhaps AS could get a similar rep as well to inspire new mma athletes

.
I think Anderson seems more unbeatable to his fellow fighters than GSP does.

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 4, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Most guys who get inspired to fight

want to kick people in the mouth, not grind out decisions.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but all things considered, there is a business decision to be made. Would you rather be Kos or Fitch? Personally, I think Kos takes Fitch, and surprisingly easily, but Fitch has made a career of fighting to his strengths for the ‘W’ whereas Kos abandons his strengths for excitement.

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 4, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Just 2nding your post about fighter’s respecting Anderson.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Anderson seems more unbeatable to his fellow fighters than GSP does.

22.5 minutes of Chael Sonnen’s life would beg to differ.

by wrxdonkey on Mar 5, 2011 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

chael lost

Sounds like Springfield's got a discipline problem.
- Maybe that's why we beat them at football nearly half the time.

by New_User on Mar 5, 2011 3:54 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Really?

Point was, it was 22.5 minutes of the most vulnerable we’ve seen A. Silva in his UFC career.

by wrxdonkey on Mar 5, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

At least he didn't get pummeled by a midget

named Serra.

GSP has lost in the UFC, Anderson has not. He is without a doubt more unbeatable. In fact, the most unbeatable fighter in UFC history.

My 6-year old daughter even hates the Ravens.

by SundaysWithTroy on Mar 5, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

But regardless if they fight, one will lose, and then we have a tainted legend like Fedor.

Seriously? That’s what tainted Fedor’s legacy? His 2 recent losses?

No one was calling into question his management or recent (past 2-3 years) opponents.

by wrxdonkey on Mar 5, 2011 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

u made my point for me

this won’t help or hurt his career, ok i don’t think it could hurt it, if he loses what ev, if he wins, OMG he is now an mma god, but if what u said is true then the reason to make the fight is it would be considered a superfight, why? yeah we all know why, that is why u make it happen. and how long should each reign last, how long should guys hold the belt, like for years at a time, if u’r like me u root against the guys like gsp and silva just so u can see a change. maybe the title fight should be scripted so dana can have who ever he wants hole the belt for how ever long he wants, with special ladder matches and guest referees.

i can admit when i'm wrong, can you?

by nocoolname32 on Mar 4, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

This has nothing to do with the thread

But who else is frightened that a man named Sen. Jon Fitch died on the same day MMA’s Jon Fitch was fighting?

http://www.katv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14152112

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Mar 4, 2011 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

So that’s how Fitch gets his powers?

by Unabomberman on Mar 4, 2011 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

Also:

Governor Beebe issued this statement saying quote, “I met Jon when I entered the Senate in 1983, and we remained close colleagues for the next 28 years. A dear friend and a dependable ally, Jon jumped at the chance to lead the Livestock and Poultry Commission, and his time there has bolstered both the efficiency and morale of the office. We will miss his warm smile and his dedication to Arkansas, and I will personally miss his friendship.”

Case closed.

by Unabomberman on Mar 4, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

@GSP

“Don’t be scared homie.”

by BrothaDarkness on Mar 4, 2011 10:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

@BrothaDarkness

Nice one, Never heard that line before

Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. Bruce Lee.

by RJshock 305 on Mar 4, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a great line....

That is appropriate for this moment.

by BrothaDarkness on Mar 4, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

sure is

"With gold thou boughtest Gýmir's daughter,
and so gavest away thy sword:
but when Muspell's sons through the dark forest ride,
thou, unhappy, wilt not have wherewith to fight."
~ Lokasenna

by VenusBlue on Mar 5, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

appropriate comment is appropriate

Sounds like Springfield's got a discipline problem.
- Maybe that's why we beat them at football nearly half the time.

by New_User on Mar 4, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep in mind though. Forrest is a HUGE lhw. HUGE.

by castleeb on Mar 4, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Contrast with Anderson, who coordinated his shorts with his waterpark admission bracelet.

by Tedd Welch on Mar 4, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Ah, I thought he was lining Lance Armstrong’s pocket since at this point of time, Chael Sonnen hadn’t alerted him to the possibility that Lance gave himself cancer.

by castleeb on Mar 4, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

well hell

Buffer looks like a very large man in this pic….I’ve met him…he’s TINY. He must be on a platform

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Melvin Guilard looks like a little Kevin Randelman!
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by Jonnycaz2.0 on Mar 5, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

he's close to 230

crazy but true.

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by RolloTomasi on Mar 5, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

 Yea, platform shoes lol…. fighters are barefoot dont forget

by gogosplata on Mar 5, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you kidding? When I saw Buffer in person I was heaps surprised at how big he was.

by MMAussie on Mar 5, 2011 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Buffer is a beast...

…chokin’ bitches out in elevators for invading his personal space.

by wrxdonkey on Mar 5, 2011 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R2phRi58yo

I'm from Canada, and they think I'm slow eh!

by Simboy on Mar 5, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no problems with GSP staying at WW.

I actually like dominant champs. The whole randomness that has reigned over the LHW division has been annoying. Hopefully Shogun will hold onto the strap for a while.

by pud333 on Mar 4, 2011 10:52 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

weight schmeight

so we all know ramage get up to 250 most people feel that hurts him, rumble gets up in the 200 range and many people feel the weight cut hurts him too, being huge is not an automatic advantage in a fight, it is however an automatic excuse for not taking a fight. i admire bj , never ever once that i have heard making gsp size advantage an excuse for anything, he went in he fought he lost, he went back to his fighting career , is still headlinging shows and still has a huge fan following. if gsp thought he could beat anderson they he would have no reason not to take the fight, he would then go on to fight all the same guys that anderson has already fought and prolly beat them too. look at the soft bj penn fighting, look at sachez fighing…soft, and yet they are not offering this as an excuse, win lose or draw. is gsp saying he also needs to get up in the 230 lb range before he fights anderson?

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by nocoolname32 on Mar 4, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

Dude Gsp is much fucking smaller than Anderson. Why wouldn’t Anderson fight Jon Jones? Why wouldn’t Shogun or Evans fight Carwin or Velasquez or Lesnar? (actually those are fights I’d like to see , but they won’t happen for a reason)

by JoelMan on Mar 5, 2011 5:19 AM EST up reply actions  

so simple

i agree and this is the reason that i think dana makes this fight happen, gsp is not bigger than the ufc.

i can admit when i'm wrong, can you?

by nocoolname32 on Mar 4, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

"I don’t know if I’m going to go up (to) 185. I have no idea; it’s a complete reorientation of my career. I have a lot to lose and I haven’t thought about it, I haven’t sat down to talk about it."

Much fear I sense in young gsp….much fear indeed.

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by the-gentle-way on Mar 4, 2011 11:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I think anything he says right now

is just empty words filling the air time.

He’s focused and that’s really all there is to say about GSP.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh believe me brother

flip the script and have Anderson declaring his own doubts for the fight and all the sudden “He’s ducking GSP!”

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by Fake Emcee on Mar 4, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

GSP ducking Anderson Silva

MMA’s version of Pacquia VS Mayweather. Never has this been more true.

by cyph on Mar 4, 2011 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

He is really big

He’s really broad, even for 6’2".

Anderson looked like a HW in person.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly don't care if this fight happens or not.

Like it’s being pointed out by GSP, the whole weight issue is just too tricky. I’m with the side that says they’d rather see Andy move up to LHW.

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by Fake Emcee on Mar 4, 2011 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

They should offer the fight to BJ

I’m sure he’d love the idea of gaining 20lbs.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Should Shogun get by Jones

I would much, much rather see Rua/Anderson than GSP/Anderson. Think of it as avenging Lyoto’s honor if you must Anderson…

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by The American Ronin on Mar 4, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That's gotta be the highest profile

most even match up in MMA right now.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 4, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree

Two elite strikers with very good clinch games, elite fight IQs, elite cardio (when healthy) and elite chins…DAMN!

I would even take that over my personal favorite fantasy fight (Overeem/JDS), just because the outcome is more in doubt imo.

Of course, I consider it highly unlikely Rua gets past Jones, and Anderson would fare no better…

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 5, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow

Bones is already being called the GOAT….Christ.

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by RolloTomasi on Mar 5, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Really? By who?

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"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 5, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Anderson would fare no better…

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by RolloTomasi on Mar 5, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah...

Anderson and Rua have similar skillsets, although their styles of striking differ considerably. Shogun has better BJJ than Anderson by a substantial margin imo, if it doesn’t help him against Jones, neither will Anderson’s.

Either guy jacks Jones up in a kick boxing match, but neither guy can stop even 20% of his takedowns…and from there…

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 5, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Silva would murder Jones at this stage in his career.

by Tats16 on Mar 5, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

In the lead up for the Kos fight...

GSP regularly said that if he moved up to 85, that it would be for good. He made many comments about “when I do something, it’s not to try, it’s to be the best,” etc. Now, he sounds more unsure, which I don’t think we should read too much into- the guy has a fight coming up which will be (on paper) his most legitimate, established opponent since Hughes at the height of his run. I think that the difference in language between then and now is interesting, though I don’t know how telling it is.

Interestingly, I was looking to find some of his quotes about moving up from the lead-in to the Kos fight, and found this quote:

“I think it’s inevitable; I just think it’s a matter of when,” Shari Spencer said. “When and if Georges decides to move up, it will be a permanent move and I think that is what’s difficult to ascertain regarding the timing of the move.”

I find it interesting to read the above quote, after GSP’s quotes about why he fired Spencer, like this one:

We felt we had a different vision for the future of my career and it was best to remain close personally but not in business relationship.

Again, it may just be a case of convenient logic, and none of us have any insight into this situation, but it’s possible that as the possibility of actually doing it draws near, GSP is having second thoughts about the move. Also, we can’t discount the DFW aspect here- he threw what? $165K in Kampann and Sanchez’ pockets last night? I have a hunch that would be chump change on top of what he would offer GSP to move, or fight at a catchweight. Lets just all make sacrifices to Jobu and hoe hope hope that this fight happens.

by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 4, 2011 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

Yep. Money Talks.

That’s pretty much the golden rule.

For a few million dollars, GSP would fight Greg Jackson himself.

"I'll rock your body with big nasty hooks!"

by TheFilt on Mar 5, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

that gif is mesmerizing
that gif is mesmerizing

that gif is mesmerizing

Sounds like Springfield's got a discipline problem.
- Maybe that's why we beat them at football nearly half the time.

by New_User on Mar 5, 2011 4:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Anderson has weighed as low as 182 for his UFC fights.

by MMABookworm on Mar 5, 2011 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

Ne soyez pas effrayés copain

Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.

by Dave Strummer on Mar 5, 2011 12:27 AM EST reply actions  

what he said

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by RolloTomasi on Mar 5, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Mehh , let's see a rematch with Chael Sonnen !!!

I think Chael is still the man that can beat Silva , GSP is a close second . Is Chael suspended or smthn?

by JoelMan on Mar 5, 2011 5:22 AM EST reply actions  

GSP obviously doesnt want this fight…

by adisban1 on Mar 5, 2011 6:00 AM EST reply actions  

I like how people are already saying GSP is scared. Like he said before, to get his body to a point where he wouldn’t be giving up a huge size disadvantage to Anderson would take a long time. Putting on 30lbs of lean muscle is a whole lot different than cutting 30 lbs and would be a long and measured task.

So to possibly take a year our of fighting while you are at your peak, with your star rising outside of the sport and your earning potential is higher than its ever been is from a business perspective, kinda stupid. Not only that, you have to worry about ring rust and adjusting to fighting at that weight – so to then have to step in the cage with the deadliest fighter on the planet who is a monster at that weight is a really huge task.

When GSP says he needs to think about what is best for his career, it isn’t being scared to fight Anderson. It is because he really needs to think what is best for his career.

by amoladora on Mar 5, 2011 7:09 AM EST reply actions  

For starters, there is no way GSP can add 30 pounds on lean mass in a year, given the extent of his current strength training programs. Of course, if he did somehow, he would have to move to LHW instead of MW as he would be 215-220+ in peak condition.

Having said all of that, nothing he does can match Anderson’s height or length, but weight is not an issue.

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 5, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s be honest GSP is gonna tool shields just like he does everyone else and then Anderson will tool GSP

by anonymous123 on Mar 5, 2011 10:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

i like your honesty for an anonymous guy

Sounds like Springfield's got a discipline problem.
- Maybe that's why we beat them at football nearly half the time.

by New_User on Mar 5, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

you know what...

 i am sick of this so-so crap from GSP. he scared of someone else being bigger? so your just going to stay where you are,beating fighter after fighter easily and never pushing yourself? seems like the easy way to me. how will you know how good you are or can be if you stay in the same circle?

by Roy r.l. on Mar 5, 2011 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

It's not a simple matter of size

This is a guy that has clowned a former champion in the weight class above him. Size doesn’t matter if the smaller guy is more skilled or the bigger guy doesn’t have a killer instinct. Maybe every guy posting about GSP being a coward is the baddest mutha fucka in his gym and would fight Shogun Rua tomorrow. And while some would think that’s being a man, most of us think its stupid to take on a world beater without really considering every possible scenario.

by black dragon on Mar 6, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The sound of GSP vs Anderson is good but

I don’t see how GSP would really stand a chance against him. Anderson is too big and way too long for him. I would much rather see Anderson vs Shogun/Jones winner for the LHW title. Anderson fighting the people at LHW is compelling to me and a lot better fight than fighting GSP.

by MPDevils on Mar 5, 2011 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

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