The NFL Lockout: Big Win for the UFC?
The National Football League and the National Football League Players Association are engaged in one of the uglier battles of the ultra-wealthy vs the extremely well-paid I can recall seeing. I haven't followed football since Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin retired but I've been following this labor dispute fairly closely because it will be the sporting business equivalent of a nuclear bomb.
Here's SBNation with the ugly details:
Back in September, the National Football League Players Union discussed decertification as its last hope to avoid a player lockout by NFL owners. According to reports, the NFLPA is expected to decertify, since an agreement is not likely to be made by the March 3 midnight deadline.
If the players break away from the union they can sue the NFL, but according to the SportsBusiness Journal, owners will still attempt to lock out players even if they do decertify. If the players union follows through with decertification, as expected, and the owners lock out the players as well, the thinking is that the NFL would be violating anti-trust laws by shutting down a non-union work force.
The NFL has already filed a complaint with the National Labor Relations Board, saying that the players union is not negotiating in good faith with their intent to decertify. That would seem to be the easier route than trying to go through the process that is ahead if players go ahead and decertify.
And here's Luke Thomas looking at the potential impact on the UFC of an NFL lockout:
The NFL lockout itself as a story will get top billing in local, regional and national media. Yet, that's simply one story. A single story, even one of that magnitude, cannot possibly compete with a normal Sunday weekend during football season. Each team in each market in the week leading up to every game is dissected, talked about, reported on, investigated and generally the focal point of news coverage. On Sunday, they combine to create a maelstrom of dominating sports headlines that pushes out the rest of the sporting universe.
The absence of that - provided the lockout goes far enough - that can only be good for MMA. Sports fans looking to cure boredom or find an alternative are more likely to give MMA a first or second look. Admittedly, a prolonged lockout will have a more pronounced and measurable effect on individual MMA sporting events rather than some vague concept of MMA generally. But that's still a net boon even if the attention is fleeting and the fans resume most of their previous biases upon the end of the lockout.
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I don't really have a dog in this fight. I generally side with the players, but I'm neither for nor against a lockout. I'd also rather MMA grow without moments like this where the benefit is distinct but in the long run insignificant. Yet, I can't deny my curiosity. If there's no lockout, this is all for naught. But if there is, I will be paying close attention to how this affects coverage of MMA. Maybe I'm exaggerating the effect it will have...or maybe this is exactly the moment the UFC needs to take their brand to the next step in its evolution. Either way, I'm paying attention to football headlines now more than ever.
And here's Geno Mrosko talking about the possibility of Dana White's twitter flirtation with Chad Ochocinco leading to an Ochocinco vs Anderson Silva bout coming to fruition in event of a lockout:
Matt Mitirone, a former defensive end for the New York Giants, has enjoyed a successful Octagon career to date, amassing a 4-0 record after appearing on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) season 10. Sure, this talk of Ochocinco making his way to the cage is likely just that -- talk. But why not have some fun and speculate on how "8-5" would do if he ventured into the UFC? Anyone think he, or any current player for that matter, could make some noise in MMA?
So there you have it. The lockout will be a boon for the UFC in that the NFL obsessed sports media will need other things to talk about and it could quite possibly dislodge some of the incredible athletic talent locked up by pro football and bring them to MMA.
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There won't be a lock out.
There… that was simple.
It just isn’t going to happen.
But if it does, I think what would help MMA would be the fact that there is just one less sport for the sports channels to talk about. If there was a lockout maybe we will see more MMA on ESPN.
Other than that, i doubt the majority of Football fans are going to start watching MMA in droves, they are two completely different things.
Boxing has more in common with MMA and we don’t see a massive amount of boxing fans tuning into MMA bouts
Sheeeeeeeee-it
“There won’t be a lock out.
There… that was simple.
It just isn’t going to happen.
But if it does"
Alright, then.
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The owners may threaten lockout
and actually have a short one, but, in the end, I believe they will simply implement their “last, best offer” and force the players to strike to get a new deal. The owners have the right, upon impasse, to simply implement their last offer, and make the players’ association go to court to fight it. I’m betting that’s what they do.
A lockout, the owners have a hard time winning public opinion. But a players’ strike to nullify the last , best offer would put them in the position of denying fans NFL football. Even if the owners don’t completely get what they want, they will get a lot closer by implementing the “make the players strike” strategy than a lockout.
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There is going to be a lockout, I don’t think many (if any) games will be missed, but this isn’t going to be solved today, and it probably isn’t going to be solved for a few weeks.
The lockout is not exciting to talk about there are a few issues, the lockout starting today means that free agency and all the other stuff that usually keeps nfl fans/media occupied in March won’t be happening, and that is where there will be time for mma to get some coverage.
i dont buy the argument that if there is a lockout, football fans will run to MMA. they are ENTIRELY different sports and why would people $60 to watch a new sport with fighters they know absolutely nothing about?
MMA will continue its steady and slow growth, but it will NEVER, EVER be as big as the NFL
by phantom5691 on Mar 3, 2011 4:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. I don’t recall boxing having a major influx in popularity during the last baseball and football lockouts. Why would MMA?
Come on man… ochocinco isnt going to fight Anderson even if the entire sport of football disappears.
If a lockout occurs SF could also get back onto CBS in the fall.
by mmalogic on Mar 3, 2011 4:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure you're right
But as a Bengals fan I would love to see Ochocinco locked in a cage with Silva
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
If thereis a lockout then this might be perfect timing for the UFC to get a network deal.
the networks will have a butt load of money to spend and will be looking for something to draw some eyes to their network. the ufc just might be the ticket..
I think the short term gains are there
for the taking, like having a few more eyes on the sport, but long term, I don’t know. And I don’t think you’ll see any significant NFL players coming to MMA because of the lockout. I think what you may see are the players on the fringe who were thinking of trying their chances in MMA coming over, but they would probably have come over anyway once they realize the NFL won’t work out for them.
Now if you had someone like Walker who already has the ear of the major sports media outlets, was fighting in the UFC combined with a lockout, you might have a case for some instant magic there. It might be an opening for a network deal also. But overall, I don’t think MMA will really thrive under a lockout situation the way some might think it might.
Not Anderson vs. Ocho, but SF is loving the freakshows, if I had to guess on one it would be Ocho vs. Hendo.
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That would be ugly
but I would so watch it.
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by merryprankster on Mar 3, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I love MMA but I’m not going to root for a lockout. I hope we’ll see some of the 97% of college football players that aren’t drafted coming into the HW division over the next few years anyway.
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Oh
And I’d love to see someone teach Julius Peppers how to grapple.
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by Derek Suboticki on Mar 3, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
This seems shortsighted
Speculating about how the UFC might or might not see a short-term bump from the lack of NFL seems to miss the more important point. This labor dispute will be a huge precedent-setter for collective bargaining between athletes and leagues in all USA sports for years to come (if not decades). A particularly league-friendly outcome could kill the idea of an MMA fighters’ union while it’s still in the cradle, and I don’t think that would be a good thing.
Never approach a vast undertaking with a half-vast plan.
Just like it hasn't happened in Boxing...
I don’t think collective bargaining will ever happen in MMA. The top stars would have to go against the promoter and I just dont see a GSP or a Brock, or the future stars that rise to the top, walking away from all that money and their careers in their prime so that Pat Barry can have a pension or a Matt Brown can make a few more K a fight (which is what they would have to do to prod the promoters to just start negotiating). Fighting is just too individualized to organize on the level of an MLB or NFL IMO….. Maybe someone like a Randy Couture would have enough juice in the sport to organize all the fighters, but I just don’t see it.
Totally agree.
I would think that some sort of Sunday special would get thrown together. Even if it was just one game per Sunday there would be a lot eyes. Maybe let some West Coast teams play Sunday matchups. They hardly ever get seen.
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by merryprankster on Mar 3, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly right
The only way the UFC or MMA gets a bump is if some cards are moved into the former NFL timeslots on Sundays or Mondays. The UFC won’t take that risk (except maybe for a Versus card) and I don’t see Strikeforce running on Sunday or Monday either.
NASCAR with its Sunday afternoon timeslot would also see a big bump alongside college football
The lockout won't mean ANYTHING for the UFC
NFL fans, like my self, will watch MMA if we want to regardless of other sports. I’m a diehard NFL/MLB/NBA AND a diehard fight fan. The biggest fight cards are always on saturdays so it’s not like it’s been going head to head against the NFL. Really, I don’t see any way how the NFL has stopped people from watching the UFC.
Matter fact, if any sports org. can benefit from no football in Aug-Oct, it’s the MLB. With no other choice of pro sports from the end of NBA Finals till november when the NBA season starts, Americans might actually rediscover their love of the national pastime again.
Yankees 2010 (95-67)
Knicks '10/'11 (31-28)
Giants 2010 (10-6)
by Benny Blanco from the BriX on Mar 3, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions
I hope not.
Baseball is only fun if you’re playing. And only then if you are batting or playing infield.
by SilverNBlackZach! on Mar 3, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
You think so?
I don’t think so, I love watching baseball. To me it’s the only team sport of the big 3 to have somewhat of a 1on1 match up. As a fight fan I love to see that 1on1 confrontation between the best pitchers trying to strikeout the best hitters, while the hitter is trying to hit em out. Somebodies gotta give. Plus the crazy, athletic plays by the fielders(who have become more athletic & skillful thanks to no more roids). and no clock so the losing team still has a fair shot to win without the other team running out the clock.
But whatever, different people, different opinions.
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by Benny Blanco from the BriX on Mar 3, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
and who cares if football players start transitioning into MMA all of a sudden
they will most likely have mediocre stand up and suck at groundwork…
theres only a few exceptions and meathead is one of them…but if this becomes a trend among atheletes it will dilute the sport…Your welcome! : )
I remember when there was the last Hockey lockout
All the stations starting showing poker. Seemed odd at the time.
GSP is an alien sent here to humiliate our men and mate with our women
The decertification of the players union is a check mate on the owners.
David Doty is the Federally appointed judge that has presided over numerous NFL vs NFLPA cases. The decertification of the NFLPA would mandate that David Doty preside over the case. Since the time Doty was appointed, the NFL owners have cried foul, accusing Doty of favoring the players. Now, on too the impact it could have on MMA. I don’t think the players or owners are dumb enough to turn off their fans. If they do lose games as a result of a lockout, I have already made up my mind. Im gonna turn even more attention to MMA. I am already an avid MMA fan, but, this would be the death nail. I have refused to watch MLB ever since their lock out. I don’t care to watch the NBA and have only recently picked up an interest in the NHL. The irony here is, I used to be a major football, baseball, basketball and hockey fan. For now, I will continue my loyal following of my Indy Colts. But, if we see a work stoppage, lockout, strike or anything else to interrupt the season. I’m done with the NFL. ’
For the record, I could see a prolonged lockout helping MMA. Their are many former football players that wrestled in high school and college. Plus, the Atlanta Falcons use an MMA based off season conditioning program for their team. There are many football players that have a martial arts background. Also, if you look at the top of the UFC HW division, you will see the impact Brock Lesnar has had. His natural athletic ability is why he is so successful. Brock wasnt good enough to make it in the NFL. So, by default, I would assume some of the NFL players would possess skills and athletic ability not yet seen in MMA>
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
I find it comical
that the owners are threatening a lock out now, thats like school teachers going on strike in the summer, no one will care, and no one will notice.
I find it comical
That you believe this statement.
A LOT of people will care and A LOT of people will notice.
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Weird
that part of the dispute involves the introduction of an 18 game season despite the public pressure of curbing its violence. Seems like Goodell still hasn’t got the message even when his Super Bowl teams had bruised rosters. It’ll be interesting to see how that issue is resolved.
There will not be a lockouit because
unless Smith is a complete fool – and he is not – there is no scenario aside from an agreement on a new CBA that does not have the union decertifying.
There is zero real risk – the owners would lock them out if they didn’t, and that way they stay under Judge Doty. The NFL IS a monopoly, and I don’t think there is one owner who would risk the triple damages that come with antitrust law, in a case their attorneys have surely explained they would be highly likely to lose.
Not decertifying and getting locked out means the owners have won (a la the NHL) and the players will eventually cave.
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by The American Ronin on Mar 3, 2011 7:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The NBA's probably gonna have a lockout
As for athletes crossing over to MMa, of course everybody brings up LeBron James, at 6’8 265 pounds, and as fast and athletic as any guard. But I’d be pretty interested in Corey Brewer. 6’9 185 pounds with nasty athleticism.
I mean really?
Anyone think he, or any current player for that matter, could make some noise in MMA?
Is there anyone who DOESN’T think there are tons of NFL players who would be great for MMA? If NFL players converted to MMA en masse and started training only for MMA, there wouldn’t be all that many current MMA fighters left near the top within a couple of years tops. They are vastly better athletes, it’s just a numbers/interest game—-the best athletes in this country go into football and basketball. Matt Mitrione is a 32 year old, “barely was an NFL player 6 years ago”, and he’s really light on his feet for a HW in MMA….what would Mario Williams look like? Or DeMarcus Ware? Or Adrian Peterson/Andre Johnson at LHW, or Troy Polamalu/Ed Reed at MW etc. And these guys are just as crazy in terms of wanting to deliver punishment and playing through pain. With a couple years of training, it’d be ridiculous.
Not afraid to nitpick
Stephen Neal retired today...
Let’s get his ass in a gym, so that we can see him fight Brock, even if it’s just just a wrestling match to see if Brock can get revenge for the ’99 NCAA national championship.
by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 3, 2011 7:52 PM EST reply actions
Good idea
He has talked about it for 2-3 years iirc, and he’s just 34. Not sure how easily he could make 265, but…
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by The American Ronin on Mar 4, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions

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