Video: Brock Lesnar - "I Know I Can Beat (Junior dos Santos)"
by Nick Thomas on Mar 28, 2011 6:39 PM EDT
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PrintBrock Lesnar talks to MMAFighting.com about being a coach on The Ultimate Fighter 13, which debuts this Wednesday on Spike at 9 p.m ET. Brock also talks about the loss to Cain Velasquez, his upcoming fight against Junior dos Santos at UFC 131 and the road to getting his UFC Heavyweight title back.
- 0:30 The beard won't be back for my next fight (winter only)The Ultimate Fighter 13 debut coverage
- 1:30 Cain Velasquez "beat my ass"
- 2:20 I'm fighting the guy who I would have fought anyways, Junior dos Santos
- 3:00 On fighting Cain Velasquez, "I got hit with a punch I couldn't recover from"
- 4:00 2010 was an exhausting year, now I'm back fresh
- 6:20 On the Undertaker situation - "I was a bit delirious, Cain put me on a street that I didn't know the name of. I don't know if Undertaker was there to fight or not."
- 8:00 "No other pro-wrestler can do and make the change like I did (become an Ultimate fighter). I think there's some animosity there."
- 10:00 "I want my title back. I got to beat Junior dos Santos and Cain Velasquez"
- 10:30 My first response to doing TUF 13 was no, I'm happy I did it now
- 11:00 Found the TUF experience refreshing, out of my comfort zone
- 12:35 "Junior dos Santos is in my way to get a title shot"
- 13:00 "I got a read on a guy that deep down inside in my heart and soul and in my mind that I know I can beat. It was a confidence thing for me, to be around a guy like that every day. I didn't feel threatened by him whatsoever. It was a good thing. I was able to carry that over into my training and into the fight."
UFC 131: Lesnar vs. dos Santos coverage
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Now why would you want to see Ariel Helwani KO'd?
by Pyrgz Krum on Mar 28, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 27 recs
Green this. GREEN IT
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
you're welcome
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
Maybe.
This is actually a very well matched fight. No, Brock hasn’t responded well to getting hit, but IMO that’s something that can be improved on.
Skill wise, Brock can most certainly take Cigano down (who we’ve yet to see against a good wrestler), and who knows what will happen if/ when Brock does get the takedown. Junior popped right back up when Gonzaga took him down, but Gabe doesn’t exactly have lockdown top control. Then again, Brock hasn’t always been able to keep guys down (Randy & Cain got up multiple times).
Lot of variables here, I favor Junior but it isn’t a squash match by any means.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 28, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Brock hasn’t responded well to getting hit, but IMO that’s something that can be improved on.
It is something that can be improved, but Brock’s age and the stage of his career, combined with his unwillingness to get hit in practice makes it highly unlikely imo.
Junior popped right back up when Gonzaga took him down, but Gabe doesn’t exactly have lockdown top control. Then again, Brock hasn’t always been able to keep guys down (Randy & Cain got up multiple times).
Randy and Cain are smaller guys but still elite level wrestlers, should Brock get Junior on his back, and I think he will, he should be able to control him for some time.
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by The American Ronin on Mar 28, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think
elite level wrestling really has all that much to do with getting up off your back, though. Sure, it helps, but getting up from your back is much more of an MMA/ sub grappling specific maneuver.
Junior has great hips, comparable to that of Couture & Velasquez IMO.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 28, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure.
But you can’t really compare the two. At any rate, the only man Brock was able to maintain position against was Mir in the rematch. He held down Herring and roughed him up, but Heath was changing positions almost at will.
I would say that Junior is better than both men at getting up, and likely just as good as Cain (who was able to get up on command).
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 28, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
But, ultimately, that's only a guess
we’ve never once actually seen Junior flat on his back against anyone.
That's not true.
If you’ve seen his fight with Joaquim Ferreira, Junior got taken down, and swept Mamute from half guard. (He then lost by armbar, but I doubt Lesnar will sub him from his back)
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 28, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha Ariel's Face!
In the thumbnail he looks “Yeah, what now, I got a lengthy interview with Brock”
It is very rare to see a long interview with Brock, I think the last time he sat down for 15 minutes it was ESPN in that haystack set and he left when they asked about steroids.
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by Our Bovine Public on Mar 28, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
It still irks me when people call them "Ultimate Fighters"
it’s MMA, not Ultimate Fighting. Maybe I’m just splitting hairs but it feels like it pushes the stereotype. “Ultimate Fighter” sounds so much more macho meathead douche-y
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
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Agreed, I'm just sort of a nitpick
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
I’m calling them cagefighters from now on. I’m tired of having this exchange:
Me: I’m into MMA.
Guy: ?
Me: You know, like the UFC.
Guy: Fuck yeah!
Me: ….Yeah.
by crazybones on Mar 28, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Poor Internet MMA fans, have to watch these unwashed heathens become fans of their sport.
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by Derek Suboticki on Mar 28, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You live in the middle of nowhere and didn't go to college.
You know not of the douchebags the rest of us have to put up with.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 28, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m IN college in a city of over 500,000 people. Get the fuck over it. Their money is just as green as yours and mine.
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by Derek Suboticki on Mar 28, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Money is green?
/Canada
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Is this your prime minister?
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by Derek Suboticki on Mar 28, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not anymore!
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by TorQus on Mar 28, 2011 7:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe that’s Ben Bernanke.
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by Dooda on Mar 28, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
no, see
in America, we got the real shit.
by Victor Rodriguez on Mar 28, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
real money?
so when the Canadian dollar is worth more then the American, it’s not real?
Now if only they all acted like they have the correct amount of chromosomes as well.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 28, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I reserve the right to loathe scene kids that listen to Bullet for my Valentine
but coincidentally will also pay for Between the Buried and Me. Same as I reserve the right to despise meatheads who happen to pay money for MMA. People buying Ayn Rand books aren’t forgiven for being dickbags just because they helped support a bookstore and publisher by handing over cash.
Being a consumer and being a worthwhile human being are not necessarily inclusive.
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I prefer a harder currency…
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by The American Ronin on Mar 28, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
Hard currency is a bit of a misnomer these days for any currency.
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by The American Ronin on Mar 28, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
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by Drunken cutman on Mar 29, 2011 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions
don't do it homie.
don’t dumb it down for those assholes. leave them out.
guys that require that to cheer on MMA end up being the ‘Just Bleed Guy’.
by Victor Rodriguez on Mar 28, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i actaully agree with you buddy
I think the “Ultimate Fighting” term brings along all sorts of negative connotations that present
day MMA is trying to shed.
When I hear the term Ultimate Fighting, I see blood and crazy men fighting for their lives.
by stiffUpperLip on Mar 28, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If "Ultimate Fighting"
is written one more time in this thread, Zuffa will shut down BE. Cut it out, people.
by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 28, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You train UFC Bro?
That’s cool, I just do TapOut.
by nitecastle on Mar 28, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
really?
I’m a purple belt in DeathClutch tm
by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 28, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
"Right circumstances" = $$$$$$$$
lol, way to be coy Brock
"What do you know about my vision? My vision will turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself: Are you really ready to see that vision?"
-Huey Freeman
Cain put me on a street that I didn’t know the name of.
That’s an awesome quote.
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by Derek Suboticki on Mar 28, 2011 6:57 PM EDT reply actions
I agree
And so does Brock, apparently, since he used it three times.
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by Scott Schroeder on Mar 28, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
that's how hard he got hit
he kept forgetting he had said that shit already.
by Victor Rodriguez on Mar 28, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
hi
im the asshole that posted exactly what you said. you know, you know that asshole. im the asshole that only reads other peoples posts after ive had the opportunity to open my stupid mouth and and satisfy my own need to hurl a little quip onto a blog page, completely disregarding that fact that someone may have actually thought the same thing and already said it.
so, yeah, i agree… and i said so.. way down there
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by Sterling Archer on Mar 28, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't say the man disrespected the man that beat him
He knew he got beat, and beat good.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Hard not to respect someone that says “that guy kicked my ass and I can’t wait to fight him again.”
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by Derek Suboticki on Mar 28, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Amen...
“Do you really want to do this again…”
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by The American Ronin on Mar 28, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s also at the point now where he has so much respect etc in the industry, that fighters know they can just open up to him because of his reputation. The guy is great to listen to.
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when you're as fair as he is during interviews, that tends to happen.
i’m glad we’re that fortunate to have him/
by Victor Rodriguez on Mar 28, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock can beat JDS and Cain...
IF he doesn’t do ANYTHING he did again in the Cain fight.
Seriously, go back and watch his fight with everyone else. He’s patient, methodical and overpowering. The Heath fight…he did everything right. The fight with Randy, he was taking his time and picking his shots. Mir 2…same story. Carwin, dude rode out the storm and subbed him.
Bull charging Cain and hoping for the best does not a good Champion make.
Honestly, I don’t think Brock’s head was in the fight one bit. He comes across to me as the type of guy that needs a challenge…and when you are on the top, simply defending isn’t enough.
I’m hoping he changes that attitude…comes to the fight levelheaded with a game plan and sticks to it.
I actually liked that game plan
Standing and boxing with Carwin almost got him killed. He crowded Cain, took him down early, and took/landed some shots in the clinch. I don’t think the game plan was the problem in that fight. Cain Velasquez was.
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by Derek Suboticki on Mar 28, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It was just going all-in too soon. He needed to fight a more measured, circumspect fight to have any chance. Perhaps he, like Rua in Machida 2 came out super aggressive because he knew he couldn’t last deep into the fight due to undisclosed injury or similar.
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by The American Ronin on Mar 28, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Every time I watch that fight...
When Brock takes that first huge step to the right then charges, I get goosebumps. The buzz during that fight was incredible. It’s that rare anxiety/excitement that the great fights (or great build-ups) give you- where the round clock reminds you how long it’s been since you took your last breath. Awesome stuff.
Also, I agree- I liked the gameplan too- Brock wasn’t gonna be winning that fight in the 4th, not with Cain’s cardio.
by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 28, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I held my breathe a couple times in that fight.
The only other fight I remember doing that I Bendo/Pettis toward the end, during the grappling exchange.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
yes!
Grappling exchanges especially. When Rua was on bottom for the first time against Jones, for a more recent example for me.
by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 28, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
What game plan will Brock have if fights Cain again? At most he will be able to keep him down a little but then what? Repeating the street sentence 3 times it seems Cain is in his head. I do think he can overpower JDS if doesn’t get caught in an exchange.
especially when you factor in his attempt to stand and trade with Cain.
i still don’t know what that was about. apparently neither does he. at least Brock admits he deviated from the game plan.
by Victor Rodriguez on Mar 28, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If Brock can swat Carwin's punches...
I thought he could do the same with Cain. My post really sounds like I discredit Cain, and that was far from my intentions. Cain won handedly for sure.
It’s just such a strange idea…when I watch his other fights. My thinking is the weight difference really made him (or someone else who should be fired) think he could rush him…which he’s never really done (Outside of rushing Heath after blasting him).
He comes across as a big dumb ox…but I think Brock is way smarter than people credit him. I just think the key to beating JDS is going to be setting up a power double…not running straight at him to eat and uppercut.
As far as I know, we haven’t really ever seen JDS off his back…and just as Brock panicked when he was being blasted in the face, it could be the same for such a crisp striker like JDS to have a 280 pound wrestler on him dropping hammer fists/forearms.
I don't recall Lesnar swatting Carwin's punches
I do recall Carwin parrying and then countering one of Lesnar’s punches that was pretty epic to see. Carwin seriously just knocked the punch out of the air and threw his own.
You're right
Sorry…I shouldn’t even be on the Internet today. I’m all hopped up on cold meds and got confused.
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OK Brock I get that you didn't know the name of the street you were on
but I’m sure someone has told you its name by now.
It was sort of funny watching Brock try and explain it and then finally say “I don’t really know what happened there…I got my ass kicked”. I wonder if he just didn’t want to talk about the beating, or if he simply didn’t want to talk about the adjustments he made, or maybe he didn’t want to talk about not taking a punch well?
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please brock work on ur striking
I think he’s gotta go to holland or to duke rufas and work on getting hit and some kinda technique once he does. I don’t think his jaw is glass, but he’s gotta just learn what to do next.
by Joshro on Mar 28, 2011 8:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Funny thing is, he was so much more effective on his feet back when he didn’t really think so much about what he was doing. His chin seems fine, perhaps even near-granite, it is his instinctive panic reaction when he really gets cracked that has gotten him.
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by The American Ronin on Mar 28, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
right
I’m glad to hear someone else say that Brock’s jaw isn’t glass. I’m not a huge fan, but the guy survived Shane Carwin, who wrecked everyone he touched back to 2007. And there is no shame in getting KO’d by Velasquez, who has wrecked almost everyone he has ever touched, AND set some kind of record for most powerful strike on one of the sport science shows. If Brock can get Junior to the ground, I think it will be a bad night for Cigano. If Brock can’t, then Brock goes to sleep.
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Good interview
Brock is a pretty introspective guy, and I give him credit for not making excuses and just saying that Cain beat his ass. Its better for him to accept that because it will allow him to fix what went wrong rather than becoming delusional like Tito Ortiz and just think its always something else rather than yourself.
I think Brock goes slower with Junior and just pounds him out on the ground.
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I agree
And for once, I can’t wait for this season of TUF, I really wonder what Brock is like in there. Also I can’t wait for the awkward exchanges he’s gonna have with JDS, especially since JDS will be saying everything in Brazenglish/ portugenglish.
by Thomas Benjamin on Mar 29, 2011 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions
A few rare missed opportunities by Ariel...
I was very surprised that he didn’t ask a few follow up questions to Brock mentioning that he went off the gameplan and made changes in his camp: What was the gameplan in the Cain fight? and "what changes have you made in your camp? Also, not a single question about whether or not he’s done anything to deal with getting hit better.
On another note, as someone who loathed Brock when he first came to the sport, he’s really grown on me. I have mixed feelings about the JDS fight, as I want very badly to see Cain vs. JDS, but I fear that Brock will go away if he loses. I hope I’m wrong, but if he goes 1-2 against the top 3 HW besides himself, with the one win being very close to a loss, I don’t know if he’d be too jazzed about being basically a gatekeeper.
by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 28, 2011 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
I’ll agree with that. I don’t think he’ll be a gatekeeper if he loses to JDS. He’d be one win away from a #1 contender fight. The HW division in the UFC is relatively light, he’d be in the mix for a long time. Unless he gets completely destroyed by JDS, in which case he probably just doesn’t really belong in there.
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If he loses decisively to JDS...
it’s just hard to imagine him beating Carwin, Cain or JDS in a rematch. Then, he’d be potentially a choke point for HW contenders- similar to where Benavidez is- he’ll destroy any contenders, but can’t beat the guy(s) at the top.
by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 28, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the gameplan against Cain was obvious, put the pressure on him early. I do agree that Ariel should’ve asked him about the changes though.
by Thomas Benjamin on Mar 29, 2011 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
that interview felt like deja vu is date raping a broken record. someone please tell him something, anything about the location of the street cain put him on…because hes making me dizzy.
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by Sterling Archer on Mar 28, 2011 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
The main problem Brock had with Cain, and likewise his potential advantage against JDS, is the scrambling out of a takedown. Cain’s ability to render Brock’s takedowns useless was purely amazing, especially considering how much bigger and stronger (I’m assuming he’s stronger but I could be wrong) he is.
THat said, if JDS can’t scramble out of the takedown, I’d say it’s going to be a short night for him. Munoz over at blackhouse is going to have a really hard time imitating Brocknar in camp.
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Yes
Also Munoz’ wrestling is just terrible for MMA, so I don’t have a lot of faith in him teaching the BH members wrestling.
by Thomas Benjamin on Mar 29, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Lesnar needs to fight other wrestlers
The reason why Lesnar had so much trouble against Velasquez and Carwin was because he couldn’t take either of them down at will, so he was forced to hang out on his feet and in the clinch. I know that Dos Santos gets a lot of credit for his takedown defense, but he hasn’t really faced a top-flight wrestler in the UFC yet. Lesnar is sure to take him down at some point in their fight as long as he avoids taking any big punches, so he’s probably not going to evolve in the way that he needs to in order to become a complete fighter. He really needs to keep fighting other wrestlers so he’s forced to develop his striking offense/defense.
Well
I don’t think Brock will be able to take Junior down at will, or hold him down indefinitely. I’m almost positive that his striking will be tested.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 28, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not unrealistic to think
Brock takes him down and tires him out.
by ANDERSONS GOT THE JUICE on Mar 29, 2011 1:13 AM EDT reply actions
It certainly isn't.
Junior’s endurance has been stellar thus far, though.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 29, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
You think so? Junior looked pretty gassed in the 3rd round against Nelson, I thought. And that fight wasn’t tough on cardio considering it never even hit the floor.
Well,
Junior didn’t look really “gassed” to me, but you have to consider that he was literally just beating the piss out of Roy for 3 rounds. He had a huge work rate in that fight.
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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 29, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
If JDS can stand back up as easily as Cain made it look
expect similar results. That’s a BIG if though.
Go Orange(men)!
True enough I suppose, but there is nothing in JDS’ back ground to suggest he has anything approaching the elite wrestling skills Cain has.
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by The American Ronin on Mar 29, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s pretty safe to assume that JDS won’t be able to do that. Cain is one of the most athletic and dynamic fighters in HYW, and has spent a significant amount of time fighting and training on the ground. JDS, though I’m sure he’s trained wrestling extensively, but that just doesn’t translate to live octogan experience.
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I’m hoping Brock wins this… the UFC needs him to win. A Cain/JDS title match, while great in the sporting sense, would be incredibly boring in the promotion sense and wouldn’t draw at all.
Yes and no….it all depends on whether Cain still has some ’’mexican’’ drawing power. I wouldn’t bank on it though. The alternative might be to have them fight in Brazil, where people know JDS. On the cardio matter: I think JDS might’ve punched himself out a little in the first against Big Country. I don’t think he’ll make the same mistake again, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him tire after Brock lies on him for a round or two. I do believe he has the skill to scramble, but not more than once or twice. I think Brock too learned from his last fight. Cain didn’t alow him to settle, and he may have fixed that in the upcoming fight by immediately locking JDS down.
by Thomas Benjamin on Mar 29, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s face it, Cain’s never had some magical “mexican” drawing power. UFC 123 was all about Brock, and he would’ve drawn just as good fighting Herring again.
And I’m not sure how that fight goes, honestly. I’m hoping Brock takes him down and bullies him like he did Mir, but JDS looks a bit stronger than Mir is, and we’re not quite sure just how good he is off his back. We can speculate that wrestling isn’t his forte considering his training partners pretty much all suck at it, and training with a 185 lbs Munoz just isn’t the same as fighting a 265 lbs Lesnar. We’ll see. Interesting fight. Really interesting fight.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 29, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Brock will wrestle again.
Brock thinks its his fault he lost against Cain. SMH
Brock does not know what he is up against. Junior might be a teddy bear out of the cage but he is a MONSTER in it.
Brock will get KTFO
Brock vs Taker Wrestlemania 2012 at Cowboy Stadium
Takers streak will still be alive.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
I can’t believe Helwani is still working this Undertaker-Lesnar gimmick.
by Jonathan Snowden on Mar 29, 2011 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
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