UFC 132: BJ Penn Excited About Jon Fitch Rematch
by Nick Thomas on Mar 24, 2011 7:34 PM EDT
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Print"Dana announced the fight, July 2nd in Vegas, rematch with Jon Fitch, so I'm excited about that. We're in the gym training, so as we get closer we'll put together a training camp, that's all in the works now."Jul 2nd, live on Pay-per-view from Las Vegas, Nevada
B.J. Penn vs. Jon Fitch
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BJ Penn won a Rubber Match
BUT BJ PENN HAS NEVER WON A REMATCH.
I’ll go with the same prediction. BJ Penn will unfortunately get Fitched, just like every other 170lbs. competitor not named GSP . . . and well Mike Pierce, if you want to be real.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think Shields can beat Fitch. :) Let's make that fight happen Dana :-)
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by SheepleBuster on Mar 24, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Fitch vs. Penn should be a 5 rounder
and for title if GSP moves up. The winner can then defend it against whomever. I just don’t see GSP moving up though
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by SheepleBuster on Mar 24, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt GSP vacates his title before actually fighting at MW. If he wins at MW, against Silva or anyone else, then I suppose he would vacate his WW title while he pursues the MW one…
I’m beginning to doubt altogether that we’ll ever see GSP move to MW (I still don’t think a catchweight is out of the question though).
I still doubt we will se GSP vs. Silva even at a catchweight. George has too much to lose and I doubt the UFC will pay him THAT much.
To save me some time on 25% of all threads, here's the universal answer to the Fedor-debate: Fedor is the most accomplished MMA fighter ever. That is a fact. If he still is the best fighter at this point in time is up for debate.
That wasn’t a rematch… that was a rubber match. Hughes won the rematch of their trilogy.
by Shnak on Mar 24, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
mmhmm
Don't let my support confuse you, I am in fact a fan of the Giants.
by tito (eight and oh) on Mar 24, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW, cool image.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
if you want to be like that
isn’t a rubber match technically the rematch of a rematch?
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by The Lethal Haze on Mar 24, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess the clear distinction I made between rematch and rubber match was completely lost on you.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
He beat Jens Pulver in a rematch.
by MemphisMike on Mar 24, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
You got me there, I kind of ignored the Pulver victory. I’m very tempted to throw Pulver a back-handed compliment but I’ll fall back.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm still with you on this point though - this is a very real observation
BJ’s demonstrated inability to adapt or change his approach makes him a known quantity far likelier to lose in a sequel than the first time someone fights him and has to deal with all his freakish abilities cold turkey.
Pulver may buck that trend as a stat, but there’s nothing similar about that situation and Edgar II, GSP II or Fitch II for BJ’s purposes.
Caol rematch draw.
Jens rematch BJ dominates the fight then finishes with arm trap RNC.
Hughes rematch gets smashed with punches in the crucifix after being gasses.
GSP rematch smashed for three rounds after round one.
Edgar rematch meh boring decision’d again.
Hughes rubber match vicious KO.
only one real direct “rematch” which was with Jens
Hopefully he beat Fitch in this rematch and make it two because Jon is very, very boring.
*Sigh*
Not interested at all in a rematch…a waste of Penn, really.
by kaptenstofil on Mar 24, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
This^
Fitch will win convincingly this time.
Has a sig bet with Californication for Wiman/Siver at UFC 132
Also the Chilie Peppers suck worse than David Duchovny
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Mar 24, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Which would be the absolute worst outcome for the UFC… that’d bring Penn to 1-3-1 in his last five fights, essentially killing his chances to go after a belt for a long time, and that’d vault Fitch into front of the line for another shot at GSP, which pretty much no one wants to see. If Fitch wins, the UFC should set up Condit/Fitch as a last try to derail Fitch before he fights GSP again… if Condit wins, great, he deserves his title shot. If Fitch wins, oh well, let him fight GSP again.
I’m not sure how losing to the number 1 guy in one diviision and then the number 2 guy in another division puts you that far away from a title shot.
Fair point, I suppose. Still, two wins in his last 6 fights… that’d be tough to sell as a title challenger. But sure, Penn is Penn… he’ll always be hovering around the top. There are a few other fights I’d like to see happen before Penn/GSP III though…
Fitch needs another shot, I don't get all the hate that comes his way I'm big fan of Jon myself.
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Also the Chilie Peppers suck worse than David Duchovny
Further more, I have a sig bet with Chronogata on Lesnar over JDS
by doonerthesooner on Mar 24, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you honestly feel that Jon’s improved enough since his first shot that the outcome will be any different? That’s my main fear. I mean, their fight wasn’t that bad, it allowed GSP to showcase his striking and put a very good beating on Fitch, but what’s really the point of redoing it all again if there’s nothing to make us believe it’ll be any different? How do you sell that fight? Dana White: “Yeah, Fitch deserve to get beat up all over again because he’s still the clear #2 in the division.” Tough sell.
Its a good thing speculation on assumed skill improvement
is not the primary metric for deciding who should get title shots. The W/L record of a person is (generally, there are expections of course) the standard.
And if Fitch beats BJ in the rematch, he’ll have gone 6-0-1 since losing to GSP. 2 of those wins will have been over top 5s, 1 over a top 10, and the other 3 over gatekeepers. He’ll have earned his rematch regardless of whether someone thinks he has or has not improved enough.
Most important of all is how well the UFC believes it can sell the fight. I don’t believe for a minute that anyone in the UFC’s offices is greatly anticipating the prospect of having to sell another GSP/Fitch fight. And that’s especially true if Fitch doesn’t win in exciting fashion in his rematch after Penn.
this is what i am getting sick of...
i understand about making money but wins are wins and fitch has won quite enough to get his title shot. hell he was already promised it. i don’t care anymore if he is boring,he earned it. earning a shot should not be based on people’s opinions of how well you might do. he is #2 and should get the shot.
So what, every ~2 years, GSP should have to fight Fitch again? For the rest of their careers? I don’t know about you, but I’ve already seen that fight once and am not really anticipating having to see again, and certainly not anticipating having to watch it another 2-3 times after that as both guys keep winning all their fights. If Fitch doesn’t fare any better in his rematch to GSP, I say he should move up to MW and try something new there… no point in staying around WW.
Well, Dana said not too long ago that they were thinking more seriously about making some five rounders non-title fights. I think there should be a rule that rematches following draws should be five rounders.
I can't see Penn winning this now that Fitch knows his "surprise" strategy
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Yea because BJ is going to use that strategy again now that the element of surprise is gone.....
Fitch is dumb, he said that he didn’t at all expect BJ to try for take downs so he trained no defensive wrestling. When you’re facing a guy with one of the best BJJ top games in the business, you better be expecting a take down or two Jon.
Fitch will probably go into this fight thinking BJ is going to employ the same strategy and work for take downs all day again. He will come in with a completely different strategy this time around. Most likely box for the majority of the fight and maybe mix in a few take downs to keep him guessing still.
It was BJ’s cardio which let him down in the last fight, I think its time for him to call up the Marinovich brothers again.
If you're having fight problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a Fitch ain't one.
How many rematches has BJ won?
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by SheepleBuster on Mar 24, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats your response to my post, really…?
If you're having fight problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a Fitch ain't one.
what more do you need?
When you say
Fitch is dumb
Then what more do you want out of me?
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by SheepleBuster on Mar 24, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
To quote Fitch
“I trained no defensive wrestling for this fight”
That right there is DUMB.
If you're having fight problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a Fitch ain't one.
You are still not showing me how BJ Penn will win this fight?
Are you honestly telling me that Fitch won’t take down BJ Penn again and again and tire him out like the first time? I am a BJ fan but I can’t see him winning this. Fitch is not Hughes. He is not Florian or Sanchez or guys like that. He is good at what he does even though the way he does it is not attractive to me.
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by SheepleBuster on Mar 24, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
“Are you honestly telling me that Fitch won’t take down BJ Penn again and again and tire him out like the first time?”
You obviously didn’t watch the fight. Fitch got out wrestled in the first 2 rounds and had 11 attempted take downs, with 4 being successful.
I never said BJ Penn would win the fight. I’m not sure if he will, I just wanted to respond to your stupid comment.
If you're having fight problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a Fitch ain't one.
I am not sure calling this person dumb or that person stupid
helps the discussion.
BJ got his clock cleaned in the second half of the fight once Fitch figured him out. This is the same BJ who made all the wrong adjustments against Frankie Edgar in that 2nd fight. The same BJ who has not won many rematches. The same BJ who is not getting any younger. The same BJ who wanted to retire after this last fight. I guess these are just stupid things?
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by SheepleBuster on Mar 24, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Again
You obviously didn’t watch the fight, or just lie to yourself.
Fitch beat BJ in the third round, not “the second half of the fight”. BJ out wrestled the wrestler for the first two rounds and lost a decisive third round.
“He got his clock cleaned”, I don’t recall BJ getting KO’d in the fight?
Silly comments.
If you're having fight problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a Fitch ain't one.
Fitch won the 2nd and third round in my eyes.
That’s how I scored it. I scored the fight 29-27
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by SheepleBuster on Mar 24, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Wel I scored it 50-12.
That doesn’t change the fact that the judges scored it 28-28.
by sadface on Mar 24, 2011 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In your eyes
BJ Penn also got knocked out.
If you're having fight problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a Fitch ain't one.
when did I say he got knocked out?
I used that phrase to say he got beat soundly, 10-8 round in that third round. I think it is extremely childish to behave the way you are. When did I say BJ was knocked out in the exact words you are putting it? I said got clock cleaned… to me losing a 10-8 round in which he did nothing qualifies as that. M
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by SheepleBuster on Mar 24, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Up until last week Shogun had never been TKO'ed
Therefore with your logic Bones did not TKO him. Are you really using this as an argument?
by MemphisMike on Mar 24, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Considering that I did bet I would become a monk if Jones did not win by TKO...
I am just going by the current version of BJ Penn. He just did not look like a guy who has it mentally anymore. He wanted to retire. Didn’t think he even deserved a draw. Was not confident at all, even though he had a great first round.
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by SheepleBuster on Mar 24, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a completely different (and legitimate) argument than saying how many rematches has he won. I just don’t see the significance of rematches at all since its such a small sample size and he has beaten Pulver in a rematch and Hughes in their rubber match.
OK. Let me put it this way. Penn has always had this supreme confidence
that he can win fights without making major changes to his strategy. I am going by what he did against Edgar. Small sample? Maybe. But BJ Penn in that 2nd fight had even worse strategy than the first one. Kind of reminded me of Machida vs. Rua. I digress :) I am a fan of BJ but don’t see him beating Fitch
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by SheepleBuster on Mar 24, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
lol you can't even concede that deciding something off two fights is a small sample?
Sounds like the basis for a reasonable argument..
When you’re facing a guy with one of the best BJJ top games in the business, you better be expecting a take down or two Jon.
Yeah because in BJ Penn’s first fight with Edgar he really tried to take him down often.
Most likely box for the majority of the fight and maybe mix in a few take downs to keep him guessing still.
Doesn’t BJ simply boxes for the majority of his fights and tries a takedown when he gets desperate like the 2nd Edgar fight?
It was BJ’s cardio which let him down in the last fight,
And that is why against Jon Fitch, he will fail.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
BJ took Frankie Edgar down 3 out of 4 times in total. Frankie Edgar IMO is a much better MMA wrestler than Jon Fitch. If any thing these take downs should have alerted Fitch and made him wear y that BJ does have take downs in his arsenal and that he can take wrestlers down. He also took GSP down for a brief moment in their first fight, but GSP got right back up. i just find it amusing how a fighter of Fitch’s calibre and his training camp were completely gob smacked by BJ trying to take him down, I for one predicted him to work for take downs pre fight.
I guess you missed the part where I said mix in take downs. BJ needs to wok more on mixing the take downs in with his strikes, i’ve said this for a long time now. In the first Fitch fight, he was going solely for take downs. I would like to see him mix it up more in this fight and evolve his game even more, which i expect him to do.
Not if he gets training with the Marv brothers again.
Haters gon’ hate.
If you're having fight problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a Fitch ain't one.
BJ needs to bring Marinovich back if he wants to win this fight. If his cardio isn’t tip-top, he’s going to have a tough time avoiding another Round 3 drubbing.
by Velcro on Mar 24, 2011 10:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Marinovich isn’t going to help Penn overcome Fitch’s work rate or takedowns.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Fitch's
Work rate and takedowns weren’t a factor until BJ started gassing out. BJ got taken down twice in the third, was able to get up once, but he didn’t put up any resistance to either of those takedowns.
Big contrast to earlier in the fight…
I dont think cardio had much to do with it
Fitch is just bigger and stronger, and too good at what he does for Bj! He can bring whoever he wants in but i doubt it would make a difference!
wow
Did you even watch the fight?
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by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 10:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You can have the biggest gas tank in the world
but its not gonna make a difference when your getting gorrila fucked down against the cage!
Oh man.. Nothing here we haven't heard before
I still believe BJ was at his best at 155. If he loses this one he’s probably gonna call it quits. It’s a pity really. There are lots of exciting fights for him back at 155 like Cerrone or Pettis. Or, if the stars align, maybe even Aldo if he decides to climb
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If you are a BJ fan...
Start tweeting him to get the Marinovich Bros. back into his camp for this one. Otherwise, game over!
Fitch couldnt beat a 155er
thats the bottom line. granted it was one of the 155er’s of all time, but that doesnt negate the point. the rest of this is masturbation in my opinion (which if anyone has followed my comments would know shouldnt be worth much it seems)
i would love penn to win, i doubt he will because i live in a place called ‘reality’. anything is possible, but fitch most likely wins this, especially if its a 5 rounder. thats just the way i see it, but it still is all for not to me, because niether fitch, nor penn, can beat gsp. and gsp cseems to be hinting at staying at ww and not giving up his title.
to recap, this fight and its oucome aint worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin it on.
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by Sterling Archer on Mar 24, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions
i have that painting .....
I paid 1 million dollars for it. It was the best purchase I ever made.
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by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 10:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
bj arguably won the first gsp fight.
It was a split decision , don’t act like its impossible Bj beats Gsp.
Bj was owning fitch in the first two rounds and then his Cardio died in the third. I don’t think fitches punches from guard were enough to gain a 10-8. So bj arguable won that fight as well. Yet its impossible he wins?
I tend to think if Bj comes with his head screwed on right and his cardio in check he subs fitch this time. Bj is at least three times the black belt fitch is. Also there is the ever present threat of the Bj KO.
Bj gets up for fights after he gets beat, Bj said he felt like Fitch beat him. So I am hoping we get Pacing and slapping himself Bj. Also it would be cool if Bj came with a little more muscle this time since he will have had time more time at 170.
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by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no complaints with your view
valid arguement that he won the first gsp fight, but that was a different gsp then in my opinion, i think he has developed, and while ‘safer’ and slightly less interesting to watch, overall better fighter. fitch/penn fight was tough. i didnt score 10-8 for the third either, penn may have won that fight, but i dont think he wins the rematch. impossible? absolutely not. just my opinion in how i see the fight playing out. no outcome is impossible, i was one of the people saying randy couture has just as much as a chance against bones as anyone else because this is mma, and anything can happen (for the record i believe randy would get destroyed… but is that a certainty? not at all)
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by Sterling Archer on Mar 24, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
i would love to see a bj vs. Gsp rematch.
I need closure! There was greasing and Bj taking a vacation during training. Bj IMO won the first fight,Gsp the second. There needs to be a third fight.
I kinda know how gsp vs. silva ends. So does gsp. He trains with Marquart. if nate gives him fits, he can guage how he would do with silva.
Bj vs. Gsp …That needs to happen imho.
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by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think
we all need to chill on the ‘super-fights’
we keep trying to thrust exceptional atheletes into a weight class above the one they are designed for to fight another exceptional athelete. and the outcome 9 times out of 10 is the smaller guy will lose and not be viewed as ‘exceptional’ anymore, even though they still are. all these super fighters have the talent to fight each other, but they dont have the appropriate frame.
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by Sterling Archer on Mar 24, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
bj is a w.w. champ , so i think the gsp fight is reasonable.
170 is his favorite weight class. Per Bj.
If Bj was into special vitamins like so many others he would be a physical force at 170. However natural bodybuilding is harder than one might think. So bj is small for 170.
I think bjs insane technique and KO power make him competitive at 170 just like edgar at 150, Despite their size.
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by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the sport wasnt as deep then.
less quality opponents, or opponents that are multi-faceted like the fighters today are. dont think im hating on BJ, i love that dude. ive been disappointed with his career because he is far better than his record. he gets pig headed in the ring, and he needs a real training camp, not friends in hawaii. i firmly believe that if bj wasnt out to prove he was a better boxer than frankie he could have beat him. he used next to zero jitz in both fights. he believed he was quicker than frankie when he was not.
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by Sterling Archer on Mar 24, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
true story.
Bj has never been the slower man in the ring before those fights. It had to be weird for him. With frankie he needed to play the Bully and push him around, not out speed him.
Bj got confused he wasn’t landing lol. He had to feel like he was in bizarro world. But yeah, bad game plans cost him those fights.
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by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 11:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If BJ stops Fitch . . . in a dramatic fashion
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
are you Canadian?
Gsp couldn’t stop Fitch in 5 ,why does Bj have to?
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by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is Brooklyn in the House? Without a doubt.
Why does BJ have to? To make an argument, a STRONG argument that he deserves another shot at GSP. By stopping Fitch, something NO OTHER fighter could do at welterweight in the UFC, BJ Penn would prove more than any one else, that he’s the guy that deserves to face GSP.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i think either fighter deserve a crack at gold after a win of any kind.
I have a feeling fitch is going to sleep in this one, but to be fair I said that the first time.
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by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 12:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im trying to get along with everyone
but this guy isnt playing nice
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by Sterling Archer on Mar 25, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
lemme get this straight...
in order to fight gsp, bj has to do something that gsp himself was unable to do…?
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by Sterling Archer on Mar 24, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I said it.
And I practically repeated it. Do you really want to see BJ fight GSP for the 3rd time without freaking proving that he can hang?
Or would you rather watch GSP vs Koscheck III?
Nah, man. CONVINCE ME.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
ok, just making sure i follow your logic
i disagree, but to each his own… honestly trying to wrap my head around that is making my brain hurt, but im feeble minded with a small IQ to begin with, so thats more of a fault of my own than yours i suppose. in any event, i think by beating fitch he deserves a title shot, if he can beat him. i doubt he can, but if he beats him, by any means, decision or stoppage of any kind, he deserves a shot at the title for doing something no one else can. i then fully expect gsp to beat him the way anderson would beat gsp, just outclassing a smaller fighter. but to say he MUST stop him in dramatic fashion in order to…. oop… wait, head starting to hurt again.
excuse me, i have to beat myself over the head with a low grade trash bag filled with rusty syringes from 1987 to distract myself from the pain
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by Sterling Archer on Mar 25, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP didn't beat BJ Penn
GSP took BJ’s fighting spirit in their rematch. He closed the door, nailed the coffin on any talk concerning a rematch between those two.
The only possible way I would be intertested in watching those two compete again is IF BJ Penn stops Jon Fitch in a dramatics fashion in their rematch. And we all know that will not happen.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
nailed the coffin on any talk concerning another fight rematch between those two.
And we can also close the door on any talk about GSP facing Josh Koscheck for quite a while.
I tend to be biased towards strikers . . . exciting strikers.
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
nobody knows
that will not happen
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Mar 24, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
any stopping of Fitch is dramatic.Dudes a legit tough guy.
And of course bj needs to beat fitch to earn another title shot. That goes without saying.
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by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"GSP didn't beat BJ Penn GSP took BJ’s fighting spirit in their rematch."
Maybe Bj just had an allergic reaction to the grease Gsp had rubbed all over his chest and back? Lol j/k.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To wit:
BJ Penn stated more or less . . . even without the grease-gate, GSP won the fight. BJ Penn admitted that laying on his back didn’t look good with the judges and was a horrible game plan from the start.
Source: BJ Penn’s autobio
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by VeeisAnimated on Mar 24, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i know, i was just breaking your balls.
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"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Penn lost to GSP five years ago in a close fight. He got crushed 2 years ago. He has no business fighting GSP, and no chance. He’s got his hands more than full with Fitch, and needs to avoid going through his last 5 fights with only 1 win.
by Hardcharger on Mar 24, 2011 12:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well than Gsp needs to move to Mw
Because pretty much everyone at WW that is a possible contender gsp has already fought.
If he stays at WW a gsp vs penn or fitch rematch is gonna be on the agenda,even if he loses to Shields.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
did penn weighed in at 155 that night?
oh i didnt know that, thx. stop this 155er bullshit both penn and fitch weighed in at 170 and would you call hughes a bitch cuz he got ktfo by 155er?
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by DK_Monster on Mar 24, 2011 11:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
bj was 167 with
Jeans and shoes.
;-) just fyi.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 11:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
no one called anyone a bitch
and no, BJ did nto weight 170, he came in less than that… with jeans on.
jeans are heavy.
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Mar 24, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
rec'd
for simultaneous posting
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Mar 24, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
mobile rec to you sir.
(Its only there in spirt)
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Mar 24, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BJ's
excited for a rematch… well I am NOT!
by Bolo Yeung on Mar 24, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I emailed Marv Marinovich a couple of days ago.
He says he hasnt heard from Penn in about six months, that he would love to train Penn again, but that he thinks Penn is happy with his current setup.
by Brandon Starr on Mar 24, 2011 12:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If BJ comes out cursing and hitting himself
Expect things to get brutal.
by ANDERSONS GOT THE JUICE on Mar 24, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
If BJ comes out cursing and hitting himself
he’s just battling a bad case of Tourette’s
The rest... is virtually identical
by randy maverick on Mar 24, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
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