UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Jon Jones Before MMA
This rare footage of new UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Jon Jones in a grappling tournament was taken in January 2008, around 3 months before he would make his professional MMA debut.
The footage was taken by Stephen Koepfer aka 'Sambo Steve', founder of New York Combat Sambo and the American Sambo Association as well as a key player in the local movement for MMA legalisation in New York. Koepfer was actually coaching Jones' opponent Doug Fournet in this match at the 2008 Northeastern Grappler's Challenge:
I spoke with Stephen Koepfer this morning about the story behind the video and the grappling event:
The story behind that video, that was January 2008, it was an event called the Northeastern Grappler's Challenge and was hosted by Team Bomb Squad in Ithaca, New York - which was the team that Jon Jones was originally from. It was actually a pretty big tournament and it was the first time that the American Sambo Association had put together its competition team, its grappling team (no gi). We had on the team Doug Fournet who you see in the video, who is a world class grappler who has been in the FILA grappling world championships many times and the Sambo world championships many times. He originally started off in Judo under Christophe Leninger, a UFC guy in the original days (UFC 3, fought and lost to Ken Shamrock) ... we just know each other through the Sambo community and so at that event I was coaching him but he's not my student.
That was the first time I saw Doug get submitted by anybody so it was pretty surprising. Also on our team was Reilly Bodycomb, who's now kind of famous as well in the grappling world. That was Reilly's very first time doing no gi grappling. Also there was Anthony Sansonetti, Jeremy Paiser and Josh Alti, those were the five guys on our team. We were making our debut as Team American Sambo and we did the Pro Team Challenge and some of the guys did individual tournament brackets as well, but in the Pro Team challenge we actually came in 2nd place only because of Jon Jones beating Doug, and Anthony actually lost to Tamdan McCrory who was also young into his career. But it was just great, it was a fun time and I mean obviously we didn't know who Jon Jones was going to develop into. January 2008 was really early into his career outside of wrestling. We had no idea who he was other than he was really good and he beat Doug and Doug is totally a top level guy, you know? So what was cool about the tournament also was for most people it was the first time they had seen Sambo. It was pretty common place for people throughout the tournament to come up and say to us "What the hell are you guys doing?" because you know it's definitely not like a BJJ style as what we did was a very aggressive style.
Over all it was a pretty great day on a lot of levels and it's pretty cool 3 years later to see what Jones has grown into. He's from New York and I think it's important for people to see, especially those battling for legalisation in New York to really see the history of how these guys become who they are.
In this video we can see Jones use his wrestling base as his primary skill; his wrestling shoes, his stance, the way he goes for a take down ... even how he rides Fournet from the back with one hook grape-vining for control as you would with a cross body leg ride. Interestingly he uses a 1-on-1 bar arm not just for wrist control, but as a distraction to get his other hook in which both scores points and allows him to flatten Fournet out with a Rear Stretcher. It shows an ability to think ahead usually found with more experienced submission grapplers, but something Jones likely developed as a competitive amateur wrestler which he was able to bring in to his then new experiences with Jiu Jitsu.
We also see Jones perhaps trying to improvise from the back but as a result it costs him the position and Fournet is able to spin into Jones' half-guard where he is already setting up a pass. Fournet attempts to proceed and Jones uses a stiff arm to try and hold Fournet at bay before transitioning to a 'Kimura' attempt. Usually without a closed guard or half-guard in Jiu Jitsu going for a Kimura this way is a big 'no-no' because if the guy on top has side control he can spin around to the other side and counter with a straight armlock as was the case in the first Georges St. Pierre vs Matt Hughes fight. But in wrestling a Double Wrist Lock combined with a bridge at the right moment is a legitimate way to reverse position so there's a risk and reward in attempting this in a submission grappling environment. Again it shows Jones willing to take risks for a pay-off and combined with any Jiu Jitsu he was learning at the time - in addition to his own strength, length and general athleticism - he was able to finish the lock and get the tap.
Jones and Fournet had another match later on and we get to see a lateral throw Key Lock throw out of Jones from a single overhook with a 1-on-1(AKA a Russian Tie) before finishing the match with another 'Kimura' while on top and in Fournet's half-guard.
For updates on the progress of New York MMA legalisation and to see how you can get involved at the grass roots level, please visit NY MMA NOW
57 comments
|
8 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
that cartwheel
to side control was totally ninja
Jonny Bench called.
by Sterling Archer on Mar 23, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
'Twas a gnarly pass.
Also, did anyone else think that at the 1:00 mark, when Jones gets the back, he REALLY looks like he wants to start punching the head?
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Mar 23, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I got that same vibe
and the way he was pushing his elbow down into dude’s neck reminded me an awful lot of the Shogun fight.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Mar 23, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones is quite good
at using his opponent’s misery & discomfort to his advantage. That’s how Neil Melansen over at Xtreme Couture teaches as well. Nothing like putting all your weight on the opponent/ crossfacing the shit out of them and breaking their will.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Mar 23, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I have always liked ruthless fighters
The most dynamic and impressive fighters in the cage, in the ring and on the mat are the ones who care about hurting their opponents more than they care about not getting hurt. Jones has that nasty edge that shows through in the way he fights.
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Mar 23, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
some guys are just naturally mean. They’re the ones that excel when you put them in BJJ/ Wrestling as a child, because of their inherent aggression.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Mar 24, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure why he didn’t pull guard instead of playing the takedown game with a far larger, stronger and faster wrestler.
You can see things in Jones’s game that he still does today. It’s as if he’s focused more on accentuating and adding onto what he already knows rather than construct an entirely new game. That may explain the meteoric improvement rate – not so difficult to add onto an existing pattern and instincts versus instilling entirely new ones.
InStrength dot com.
Not sure why he didn’t pull guard instead of playing the takedown game with a far larger, stronger and faster wrestler.
Because he thought he was going to steamroll the kid.
He had no idea how good Jones was.
This is a great piece...
….Sambo Steve is good dude, doing his part to help the cause…
formerly NeilLomaxFan
by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Mar 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Damn. That boy good! That boy good!
I also think he looks better with hair like in that video.
"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles
This is great KJ
Even better with your breakdown after the video
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
by Chris Hall on Mar 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Anytime
I’ve always liked what you bring in for Nate’s Judo Chops and this is excellent as well.
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
without a closed guard or half-guard in Jiu Jitsu going for a Kimura this way is a big ‘no-no’ because if the guy on top has side control he can spin around to the other side and counter with a straight armlock as was the case in the first Georges St. Pierre vs Matt Hughes fight.

by gabriezim on Mar 23, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Its almost not as good without the clock.
Don’t forget there was only like 1 second left in the round when he tapped. Incredible armbar by Hughes
Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.
ADCC
Do it, Jones.
Great video, great post.
"Run and tweet THAT, homeboy."
by TheFilt on Mar 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Could be interesting.
Would he get punked like GSP? I’d be interested in finding out.
"[UFC]’s a great rush, eh? It makes your sphincter get real tight." - Harold Howard
by lowellthehammer on Mar 23, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Although he did get tapped quickly by Leo Santos (a beast of a grappler), GSP went 1-1 at ADCC 2005, and defeated the ADCC 2003 silver medalist in his weight class in his first match.
Not a bad showing for a purple belt.
shields was a purple belt at the same time
And tapped the Guy That tapped gsp.He later lost to Marcelo Garcia, who won the Division. Jake took third.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Mar 23, 2011 4:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
heh that would be less exciting than you would think, since you can just sit down to avoid the takedown and then it would be nonstop leglock attacks
also, in the shogun fight shogun actually got to a 50/50 guard type position at one point but one split second later the heel hook opportunity was gone and I was sad. I wonder if he should have just locked down the leg with 50/50 guard and went for the heel hook from there.
1. Jones probably does not spend a lot of time practicing 50/50 guard
2. 50/50 guard in mma would prevent the tough ground and pound shogun was taking
by IpullguardIRL on Mar 23, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Shogun made a critical mistake there
I think he should have tried to off balance Jones enough before going Human Backpack Marcelo Garcia style and attempt a choke.
50/50 is dangerous biz in mma.
Watch Hall vs maxwell’s bjj match. If you just kinda stack up their guard and hold your base, you could really pound on the bottom guy. IMHO.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Mar 23, 2011 4:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Where the heck have you been bro?
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
by The American Ronin on Mar 23, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Great find
I love these submission grappling videos and breakdowns because they really enhance my understanding of the sport. Thanks!
Tatum: I think he's a good man. I like him. I got nothing against him, but I'm definitely gonna make orphans of his children.
by Dave Strummer on Mar 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not a Lateral
My first thought was a keylock throw from the Russian he secures. It’s a tough camera shot but after watching it a few times I’m confident.
Here is a demonstration of a keylock throw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ViLzcBdpm0
Goot catch
I didn’t call it a lateral drop, because it wasn’t, so called it a lateral throw … but yeah it’s a lot like a sacrifice throw off of a Russian Tie. There’s a similar throw in Catch Wrestling I believe.
It’s a really hard angle to see it but the only throw I could think of from that position was that. Thanks for the article, was a great read.
by portuguesmike on Mar 23, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
When will BE be posting Jon Jones' grade school wrestling videos?
So everyone can fawn over him more.
We’re trying to get hold of video sonogram footage of him practicing his unorthodox kicks in the womb, but we’ve hit a wall with Doctor-Patient confidentiality.
by KJ Gould on Mar 23, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
No
Just fed up with the insane hype. Didnt people learn with Machida? Crowning him the unstoppable champ and already having thoughts about fights with the p4p best in the world….
I’ve just had it with the outrageous hype and the mass articles that followed (a minute by minute breakdown of the fight? Seriously?)
Didnt people learn with Machida? Crowning him the unstoppable champ and already having thoughts about fights with the p4p best in the world….
I’ve made no such claims in this article. Regardless of what people think, Jones is the big story coming out of the weekend ergo he’ll get coverage. He’ll be on Jay Leno tomorrow night too.
This made my day.
Fitch is awesome, I don't care what you think...
Bones Jones, future greatest MMAist ever.
I think this is him, as a 7 year old, in a bit of a disguise…
"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne
by The American Ronin on Mar 24, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks KJ
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
George Carlin
Is there a reason why
BJJ guys don’t wrap their foot around the calf of their opponent when putting hooks in as many wrestlers do?
Preference, or just how they're taught
Not all wrestlers do as for some they find it puts pressure on their own knee. Jones’ legs are long enough where it’s not an issue for him.
a much larger guy can hurt the grape viners knees.
So some don’t teach it.Its a time and place move like Kj suggests.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie
"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com
by the-gentle-way on Mar 23, 2011 4:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For wrestlers, it's preference
Long skinny kids can use leg riding as a way to mitigate their comparative lack of strength. Most of the pinning combinations from legs use leverage, not strength. So, for Jones, it’s probably been the way he’s been riding opponents for years.
"Don't be intimidated by other teams. You guys got bubble gum cards, too. Let's go." - Buck Showalter
by duck on Mar 23, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great piece. In the second match it looks like he doesn’t actually use an overhook for the takedown, but rather grabs a wrestling keylock from the Russian tie and then pushes that up into the guy’s chest to set up the takedown.
Speaking of Early Jon Jones
People should go back and read the previews of Jones’ fight at UFC 87 (a great card that I was at in person). It’s pretty cool to read the preview and then the recap and the comments on him when he was a total unknown. Even back then, people knew we had something pretty special on our hands.
link for lazy people please :)
by the guy with the big nose on Mar 23, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
As I recall, most people picked against him. There were a whole bunch of folks who were in love with Gusmao.
Yeah
Gusmao was considered a blue chip prospect.
http://www.headkicklegend.com/
"I swear it upon Zeus an outstanding runner cannot be the equal of an average wrestler."
-Socrates
by ElliotMatheny on Mar 23, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones wins his fights before he steps in...
Im not a huge Bones fan but its true. With Bader and Shogun they seemed like they lost before they even stepped in the octagon. They hardly threw any punches they just let him set up his striking and they were taken down at will.
by MrZig85 on Mar 23, 2011 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

by 



















