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A closer look at Jon Jones' tremendous victory last night (gif heavy)

Here's my analysis of Jon Jones' performance last night originally on the Toledo MMA Examiner complete with gifs.  To save your computers, I've linked to a few of the gifs and only kept the most significant ones.

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Last night, Jon "Bones" Jones became the youngest man to become a UFC champion.  At just 23 years old, he is now perched atop the UFC light heavyweight division after his destruction of Mauricio "Shogun" Rua in the main event of UFC 128.  Below is my honest assessment of how everything went down.

The idea for this article sprang from the thought that perhaps Shogun's third knee surgery had something to do with his performance last night.  After repeated viewings of the main event as well as Shogun's last two fights against Lyoto Machida, that simply was not the case.

Shogun's knee was fine, he just didn't get much of an opportunity to dance around and showcase it.  Within five seconds of the first round, Jon Jones was already putting the champ on his heels with a flying knee and a headkick.  Shogun only had a chance to throw one wild looping right hand before Jones closed the distance with a half-clinch and spun Rua to the canvas with a beautiful trip takedown.

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At first, Shogun, as expected, was very aggressive from the bottom.  He threw his legs up looking for a possible triangle choke and when that didn't work, Shogun went right back to work in half guard with sweep attempts.  Jones, with his long legs and arms, kept a wide base and appeared unshakable.

Shogun ate some elbows from bottom when he finally saw his opportunity.  Jones' legs were a little too close together and Shogun grabbed an underhook with his right arm under Jones' left leg and attempted to sweep him but Jones simply posted with his never-ending right arm and easily stayed on top.  You can clearly see how hard Shogun tried to sweep Jones here by the look on his face.

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After his failure to sweep, Shogun seemed resigned to stay in full guard and try to avoid damage, but this didn't work either.  Jones landed a big glancing elbow to Shogun's face followed by big elbows to the body that forced the champ to put himself in a bad position as he had to get back to his feet.

On the way up, Jones threw a massive knee to the body, a knee to the face, and turned up the heat with a big flurry that ended with an Anderson Silva-esque front kick to the face.

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Shogun was noticeably slowed and wobbled from this point on and Jones backed off, playing it safe.  Shogun did land his most significant punch of the night, a right hook, but there wasn't nearly as much on it as he would have liked and Jones walked right through it.  At the end of the round, Jones went for his patented spinning back elbow and Shogun took his back standing, dropping down for a leg lock but Jones easily stepped out of it and took top position.

Jones opened the second round with three consecutive kicks, a leg kick which Shogun checked followed by a high push kick that knocked the champ back and a side kick to the thigh.

Again, Shogun telegraphed a huge looping hook and Jones side-stepped it, pushing him into the fence.  From here Jones threw a vicious spinning back left elbow followed by a straight left that was so quick it snuck through Shogun's defenses.

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Shogun tried to counter by taking command of the center of the cage but he stayed on the end of Jones' leg and body kicks.  Shogun threw several looping hooks but Jones stayed at the perfect distance to force Rua to hit nothing but air.

At this point in the fight, the announcers began to mention how tired Shogun looked in the cage but this wasn't a knee issue.  Shogun had absorbed a TON of punishment and the accumulation was what was slowing him down.  There are only so many times you can get punched, kicked and elbowed in the face.

Shogun finally attempted his first significant kick of the night but Jones timed it perfectly and punched him in the face hard with a straight left before he could even land it.  After eating more punishment, Shogun attempted a kick to the body but Jones quickly grabbed his left leg and took him down.  

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Shogun would never attempt another kick for the remainder of the fight.

For the next 2 1/2 minutes, Jones battered Shogun from full and half guard with elbows and punches to the face and body.  He also disrupted Shogun's breathing by keeping his hands and forearm on Shogun's mouth and nose.  Jones closed the round with a half-hearted knee bar attempt and hit Shogun with a spinning backfist to the face right before the horn sounded.

As the third round began, Jones made his first significant mistake of the evening.  A big right head kick attempt was ducked by Rua leaving Jones in poor position with Rua on his back standing.  Rua immediately dove for Jones' legs with a leglock attempt and as Jones tried to spin away, Rua grabbed Jones' free left leg and took him down for the first time in his UFC career.

Jones, though, immediately turned his body, grabbed Rua's arm with a kimura attempt and shot forward with a takedown into Shogun's full guard.  It was lightning quick, but very impressive.

From here, it was only a matter of time until the fight was stopped.  Shogun looked exhausted and Jones really turned up the heat punishing him with big punches and elbows from full guard.  This is something only a man with an 84.5" reach can pull off.  Jones then landed a devastating left hand that appeared to completely suck the fight out of the champion and followed it up with serious elbows.

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Shogun turtled and valiantly rose to his feet one last time but Jones sent him right back to the canvas with a nasty left hook to the body followed by a knee to the head as he was on his way down while referee Herb Dean stepped in and mercifully put a stop to the action.  Shogun also taps with his left hand just after Dean pulls Jones away.

Some major points I noticed

  • This was the first time in his career that Jon Jones truly utilized his ridiculous reach advantage.  From start to finish he kept Shogun at bay with a quick straight left hand as well as several push and side kicks.  It was a significant improvement even compared to his last fight just six weeks ago against Ryan Bader.  If you thought he was scary last night, just wait til he has more time to practice it.
  • Jones' elusiveness was just on another level.  Time and time again, Shogun would lunge forward and swing at nothing but air.  Jones would either side-step him as he waded in aggressively or he would be at the perfect distance to not even have to be concerned with Rua's punches.  Considering how easily Shogun was able to hit the king of elusion Lyoto Machida, this was a tremendous feat.
  • Jones diversity of striking and constant barrage of attacks kept Shogun guessing.  Jones threw the kitchen sink and more at Shogun last night with spinning back elbows, front kicks, push kicks, body kicks, backfists and even a goofy headbutt to the stomach.  Shogun never had a chance to really find his groove at any point in the fight.
  • Jones wrestling completely took Shogun's kicks out of the equation.  Shogun attempted two major kicks in this fight.  The first was countered with a straight left punch to the face and the second resulted in a takedown.  Many (including myself) thought Shogun's kicks were going to be a major factor in this fight but Jones neutralized them easily.
  • The big flurry at the 1:48 mark of the first round completely changed the course of the fight.  Shogun was hit with several power shots, was wobbled and was never the same after Jon Jones punished him as he tried to get to his feet.  It was a serious fight-changing exchange.

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Great Breakdown

and thanks for the GIFs!

Conducting an experiment on knocking people out in particular ways would be unethical.

by Chris Hall on Mar 20, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent breakdown, my man! My god, Jones is fast. Incredible.

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by kenpoboy67 on Mar 21, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

the spinning back left elbow against the cage was sick

everybody at mt crib was like “oooohhhhhh”

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by Bonedoctor on Mar 20, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks

I meant to have that in the actual article, thanks for reminding me. It’s there now.

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by Brian Hemminger on Mar 20, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

who does that!?!?!

his spinning elbows are insane.

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by Bonedoctor on Mar 20, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to watch that gif like 8 times before I could really appreciate how blazing quick that was.

Who cares if he is wide open every time he does that, with that speed no one short of a Jose Aldo/Anderson Silva type could do anything with that opening.

by Roa on Mar 20, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who the hell is practicing to counter a spinning back elbow coming out of the clinch anyway?

And in this one I don’t think he left himself open at all, by the time he threw it he had put too much distance to counter.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 20, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He completely set it up

Watch what he does – he’s gauged the distance in practice, and knows when his head is on the near side, the elbow will hit the opposite ear. He takes a small step to get the proper distance, then commits full-out. Beautiful strike.

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by duck on Mar 20, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was great.

However, to be slightly nitpicky, the straight right was a tad sloppy. Instead of pivoting on the rear foot and really siting down on the punch, he overextends himself and is a tad off balance (as evidenced by his foot leaving the ground).

This is fine because Shogun was totally shelled up and didn’t fire back, but that is just begging to be countered with a left hook.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 20, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

"Live fast, die." ~ GG Allin

by Bonedoctor on Mar 20, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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"Live fast, die." ~ GG Allin

by Bonedoctor on Mar 20, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you watch this in high quality and see it from a better angle, you find it lands awkwardly. Like he drags his entire arm over Shogun’s face. It does fully connect though, but because it really doesn’t impact super hard it wasn’t a KO.

It actually looks pretty cool seeing Jones’ whole arm just drag across Shogun’s face as he tries to bring his guard up in time.

by Derly on Mar 20, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was more of a pushing elbow than impact one.

".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."

by dancingChicken on Mar 20, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i bet that shit still hurt though

by TheBiggertheyare... on Mar 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude is ridiculous. His spinning elbow is quicker than a lot of guys’ jab for fuck’s sake.

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 20, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

His speed is impressive

but more than anything, it’s his fluidity & dexterity that makes it so impressive.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 20, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

Amazing reflexes and balance too. The thing that reminds me most of Anderson is just his physical awareness. He reads everyone really well, thinks several steps ahead, and just always has a better sense of where his opponents’ body is, where his center of balance is, etc.

What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?

by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 20, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

being a great athlete is more than just being fast. It’s coordination, balance, flexibility, strength, speed, agility, reaction time, vision/ depth perception, timing, etc etc ad nauseam.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 20, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. That was nuts.

The crazy thing about that spinning back elbow against the cage is that it generates more force going through Shogun’s face than it does upon initial contact.

by David Castillo on Mar 20, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

great breakdown

I picked Jones to win, but never expected him to dominate like that

by StillUnknown on Mar 20, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

You nailed it. Jones used his reach, had awesome head movement, the takedowns, the flashy stuff standing as well as picking big shots carefully, he countered Shogun’s attacks, his top control was crazy as Shogun attempted to sweep in the first round, his ground and pound from every position was great, he didn’t over exert himself and get counter KO’d, but showed great killer instinct all fight. Talk about a clinic. What a masterful performance.

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by ChiCubs23 on Mar 20, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I just feel bad for Shogun. That is a lot of pain being inflicted in a short amount of time.

by xDieseLx on Mar 20, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

this

The big flurry at the 1:48 mark of the first round completely changed the course of the fight. Shogun was hit with several power shots, was wobbled and was never the same after Jon Jones punished him as he tried to get to his feet. It was a serious fight-changing exchange.

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by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ on Mar 20, 2011 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Jones vs Machida would be a fight between my 2 favorite LHWs

But I would LOVE to see it.

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by Chris Groves on Mar 20, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

What chance does Machida have against Jones? Zero. Jones will rag doll him and pound him out easily.

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Mar 20, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a ridiculous thing to say.

Machida has NEVER been ragdolled before. His base is ridiculous, the guy never gets taken down.

As far as the striking battle goes, it’s actually a very intriguing style matchup.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 20, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I disagree

Jones hasn’t exactly shown that he has a devastating check hook. If Machida can draw Jones in, and explode into a flurry like he’s best at, then he can clip Jones.

I definitely favor Jones at this point, but Lyoto wouldn’t be helpless. Stylistically I think he matches up much better with Jones than anyone else currently (at 205).

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 20, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You focus too much on the reach.

Jones’ footwork isn’t at a point yet where he really would be able to cut Lyoto off, and while Jones is getting better with his reach, what you don’t understand is that moving forward drastically reduces the effectiveness of your reach. If you have forward momentum, and the opponent draws you in, then they control when and where you exchange.

If Machida were to win, that would be how.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is a reason why guys with short arms almost always become inside fighters in boxing

Lyotos style is very bad against guys with good striking with significant reach advantage and the memo of how to beat Machida is out.

by Mohammedini Hussein on Mar 21, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes,

shorter fighters generally tend to become inside fighters. However, most good inside fighters are proficient at using evasive movement to GET INSIDE. Sometimes that means adopting a peak- a- boo style like Mike Tyson, drawing your opponent in and exploding with flurries like Machida or Zambidis, or some other strategy to get inside.

The only guys who have been able to touch Machida were Sam Greco and Shogun. Not saying that Jones won’t be able to, but Lyoto is a very different fighter than anyone Jon has fought thus far.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

but if you watch Zambidis fights he walks his opponents down and wait for his opponents to punch first

plus his defense is extremely good. Lyoto keeps his hands down very low and if you run in with your hands low and get countered its gonna look like the second Shogun fight. Jones have cat reflexes.

by Mohammedini Hussein on Mar 21, 2011 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lyoto does need to get his hands up.

And yes, sometimes Zambo does walk guys down; however, he also gets on his bike a fair amount. Zambo fights near perfectly for a shorter fighter.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zambidis

Is absolutely a blast to watch fight. Livers will never be the same after a fight with him, so much of that left body shot.

by hardlyworking on Mar 21, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

He gave Petrosyan one of his hardest fights I’ve ever seen, aside from maybe the Buakaw fight.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Up until this fight,

Jones has never been taken down and he’s fought some good wrestlers. I love me some Machida, but I don’t see how he doesn’t get ragdolled if tries to clinch with Jones.

by black dragon on Mar 20, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He might have a good base but...

I do think he would get owned in the wrestling if he fought Jones. Jones seems to use his size and length in his wrestling as well and seems to feel every little imbalance in his opponent and knows exactly when to throw his opponents. Great base or not I still think he goes down whenever Jones wants him to.

by Storry on Mar 21, 2011 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

I think Jones could (and likely would) get Lyoto down, but I think he would stuff quite a few takedowns as well.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he would pull off one or two stuffed td's in the course of the fight.

I just don’t see him doing it consistently enough for it to have any bearing on the outcome of the fight. If Jones wants him down it is just a matter of time before it happens IMO, and once that happens I think we all know what is coming next.

by Storry on Mar 21, 2011 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know, man

I do agree that Jones would finish most of his takedowns, but Lyoto is incredibly hard to cut off, and Jones’ footwork isn’t quite up to snuff yet (as illustrated by Fagan’s post a while back).

Again, I would favor Jones to win, but Jones got clipped a few times by Bonnar, Bader, & Rua. We still haven’t seen his chin really tested or his ability to recover when hurt, and I think Lyoto has a very good style to potentially catch Jones with. Time will tell.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that Lyoto offers him challenges that no one else does.

I just don’t think they are significant enough from what I’ve seen of Jones and from what I expect of him in the future. Even the spinning back elbows he landed on Bonnar were much sloppier than the one against the fence with Rua. He reminds me a lot of GSP by improving exponentially in all facets of the game between fights. I am sure his foot work will continue to improve and I’m not sure it needs to be perfect because of his unpredictability while striking. Anyone can get caught and Lyoto has one of the best chance of exploiting that weakness, if it even is one. Like you said, time will tell… and Lyoto has a few hurdles before even getting that shot I would think.

by Storry on Mar 21, 2011 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

that’s the thing that makes calling Bones fights extremely difficult… you can’t really expect someone to drastically improve in an area they look lackluster, but the way Jon has improved, it’s really hard to tell if he’ll be lacking in the same areas.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you really see Machida stopping Jones’ strength, size, wrestling and devastating speed and power? Jones will be able to take Machida down at will.

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Mar 21, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Machida

is a good sized LHW, is fast, strong, has KO power, and has very good wrestling himself.

Given how dominant Jones has been, I won’t ever again say that he “can’t” do something, but I don’t think he would take Lyoto down at will. How many times has Machida been taken down in his career?

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Machida isn’t a good sized LHW, he’s one of the smaller ones. He gets mauled by Jones, even worse than Shogun was.

by Shnak on Mar 21, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Machida is pretty average for a 205'er

He’s filled out muscularly quite a bit. Here’s a pic of him next to Rampage- he doesn’t look outsized at all.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t see the picture, but it’s known that Machida doesn’t cut very much weight (at all). Comparing pictures at weigh-ins doesn’t tell much… at fight time, most LHW’s go up in the 220 range, as Rampage, Thiago Silva, Griffin most certainly do.

Machida’s got decent power, but being only 6’1 and only 74" reach, he’s definitely not a ‘good sized LHW’.

by Shnak on Mar 22, 2011 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Machida's a pretty thick 6'1

and probably cuts like 5-10 lbs. of water. He’s not huge, but i’d say he probably walks into the cage around 215.

6’2 is about average height for a LHW, Lyoto’s not exactly a midget.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 22, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Machida is probably the smallest LHW in the UFC

also one of the physically weakest. His wrestling is average for the division, he has great footwork, good reflexes, great feints, great kicks, very accurate striking and below average punching power.

I agree with Shnak, I think he gets mauled faster than Shogun. Maybe he can stay on his bike and keep away a bit, but he is giving up such a reach advantage, and his kicks will be practically unusable.

by chimps on Mar 21, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

great reflexes I should say… all this shit is relative, Machida is an incredible fighter. Jones is just a man among boys.

by chimps on Mar 21, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Below average power?

I would disagree, I think his power is good. He slept Thiago & Rashad, and rocked the granite- chinned Rampage pretty good.

And where are you getting that he’s one of the physically weakest? He tossed Shogun around easily from the clinch, manhandled Tito, etc etc. The guy’s never been overpowered physically.

Also, how would his kicks be unusable? You’re all over the place right now.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Machida a lot, but he will likely get ragdolled.

Shogun has a bit more atheticism than Machida, and he is not in the same zip code as Jones. Machida is way too small and physically overmatched in terms of strength, weight, reach, and height.

Shogun has the best kicks in the weight class, and they were completely useless. There goes Machida’s best weapon.

People hate on Rashad, but he has the best chance to beat Jones, due to his skill set and his knowledge of Jones.

by chimps on Mar 21, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree that

Lyoto’s best weapon are his kicks. I actually think that his knees to the body are his most dangerous strike. He also has a nasty left cross.

I know Jones is good, but Machida has NEVER been ragdolled before. I give Jon a healthy wrestling advantage, but it’s only ever taken a strong wind to get Shogun down. I give Jones huge props for taking down dominant wrestlers like Bader, Hamill, Matyushenko, et al, but Lyoto is much better at maintaining distance, and as I said- he has a rock solid base. Jones would really have to set up his takedowns and time them perfectly to get Lyoto down.

Also, we all know that Shogun wasn’t in the same shape against Jones as he was for Lyoto. I don’t know if his speed or explosion will ever be the same at this point. Lyoto is definitely fast though, not as fast as Jones, but not a sitting duck either.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Styles make fights

On paper Machida’s style counters Jones. He’s an in and out striker and has great TDD. I thought Shogun matched up badly with Jones because Jones wrestling is crazy in the clinch and Shogun strikes himself into it. There are two problems for Machida though. We all know now that you can beat him if you press him. Jones has the reach to do so and if he can get close then he could take him down.

by HaterSlayer on Mar 21, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol at "miss much"

Bro, we know that Jon Jones is a good fighter. But it’s not impossible to beat him. Lyoto presents an intriguing style matchup.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

mismatch

I’m fucked up on painkillers for my broken leg

by Mohammedini Hussein on Mar 21, 2011 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha mang

I was just givin you crap ;-D

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree 100%

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree but Jones has superior strength and length and wrestling by a wide margin. I also think he has the advantage in striking but lets pretend that is a wash. How will machida keep from being taken down and elbowed to oblivion? Machida has lost two fights in a row anyway, why are we talking him vs. Jones? (Although I thought the fight was pretty much a draw against Rampage).

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Mar 21, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Lyoto beat Page

but that’s just me.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scoring it as a fight he did. If it was a 5 rounder he would have but Rampage definitely took the first 2 rounds.

Lyoto hasn’t had a clear victory in his last 3. He needs to recover his confidence but if he can (no reason why he can’t if he beats Randy) he’ll easily be a challenger.

by Roa on Mar 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rampage definitely took the first 2 rounds?

What did Page do in the 1’st round? Nothing but throw a bunch of weak knees to the legs/ body. Lyoto hit Page with some really hard, clean kicks, and definitely outstruck him in that round.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 21, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent post.

Just a note. Put the gifs after the jump so those who are mobile don’t have to download them till they click to read the rest.

by memitim on Mar 20, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

good idea

I’ll do that now

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by Brian Hemminger on Mar 20, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great breakdown

I love how Herb Dean jumps back after that spinning elbow like “Damn!”

by Dootch on Mar 20, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

My favorite part about the spinning elbow...

…is how several guys here were predicting how if Jones tried one, Shogun would light him up. Shogun had nothing for Jones. I was nervous after that missed kick that led to the takedown, but obviously Jones wasn’t and kept the sort of composure you need to become the youngest champ in history.

by black dragon on Mar 20, 2011 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, he throws a spinning elbow faster than most people throw a jab! I had to watch that first elbow like 10 times. It looks sped up it is so fast.

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Mar 21, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

He clearly practices it constantly.

Using it against the cage was genius too since the opponent can’t avoid it even if they see it coming they have to try and block it or eat it.

by Roa on Mar 21, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, not enough time to duck it. It comes fast and with no warning that I could see.

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Mar 21, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shogun had a few incredibly dumb moved in that fight. The biggest was when he got Jones’ back standing and inexplicably dove for a leg lock yet again to no avail. He kept giving up position, and against a good wrestler, not a good idea. Against Jones’ GnP, a HORRIBLE idea.

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Mar 22, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

*moves (sorry)

Werdum beat Fedor, Dos Santos beat Werdum, Joaquim Ferreira beat Dos Santos. Therefore Ferreira is WAAAAY better than Fedor. Keep MMA math alive!

by crizzy on Mar 22, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was getting beat up

he had to go for broke. Everyone thought that a leg submission would be a good option for Shogun, given how long and skinny Jones’ legs are.

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by ElliotMatheny on Mar 22, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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