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Dana White: Rashad Evans Next In Line for Title Shot

UFC president Dana White shares his thoughts on the recent acquisition of Strikeforce on MMA Live. UFC light heavyweight challenger Jon Jones checks in in advance of his title fight with Shogun Rua at UFC 128.
"Well we have to see what happens here. We have to see who comes out of this fight unscathed and who is ready to roll again without injuries. Yeah, Rashad (Evans) is definitely next in line."
If Jon Jones wins on Saturday, Rashad Evans says he's open to fighting Jon Jones since everything went down: (via Pro MMA Radio)
"For my last camp when I got injured I went back to Albuquerque [to train with Greg Jackson] but I know I can go somewhere else to train. It may become more of a reality where I'm not using Greg at all. I've been playing around with the idea, thinking about where I'm gonna go and what I'm gonna do if this situation comes to a head. This situation is bigger than just me and Jon, it's a team. Just like the 155'ers are gonna have to decide 'Okay, you know what, now we gotta separate, we gotta go.' I mean we got Melvin Guillard, Clay Guida, Donald Cerrone and Joe Stevenson all in the same weight class. If we gotta fight, then we gotta get away from each other. I just have to sit down and decide, 'What's it gonna be?' because there's never gonna be no going back. There's no makin' it better or going back to the team after it's done. If [Jones and I] agree to fight, if we say we're gonna fight, it's over. I would divorce myself from Jacksons."

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Dana speaking positively of Rashad? This can only mean one thing… Rashad has added another friend to his colleciton.

by Pyrgz Krum on Mar 18, 2011 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Or the UFC is all ready banking on a Jones win and is excited to push the Jackson camp teammate’s into breaking the mold of teammate’s not wanting to fight each other.

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s how Dana is playing it… but you just know he’ll just love every minute of it when he sits down with Rachad and proposes him a fight against Jones. If Jones wins tomorrow, of course.

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

because they always stick to who is in line for the title next when the timing doesn’t work out, right?

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pettis was also first in line for a shot at the LW belt… but things change fast in MMA. Dana White’s been known to change his mind regarding #1 contenders recently, just ask Fitch.

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

wanna go nigh nigh?

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by AndersonSativa on Mar 18, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha

not sure exactly why the picture is there in reference to Rashad/Jones/Shogun, but Kevin Hart’s stand up comedy is the shit!

“One bed. Gun on my waist. YOU WANNA GO NIGHT NIGHT!? YOU WANNA GO NIGHT NIGHT!?!?” lol!

“Speak it from your chest”

by SentientAndroid on Mar 18, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Close your mouth! Pull that shit on the yard and you’d have a dick in there.”

“…yo, can somebody spot me real quick. Seriously. I’m not comfortable with this situation right now.”

"[UFC]’s a great rush, eh? It makes your sphincter get real tight." - Harold Howard

by lowellthehammer on Mar 18, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahaha

I gotta check out all of his standup routines thoroughly. I’ve seen about 3 of his different routines, but only bits and pieces of them randomly. Did not know that he was so funny, it doesn’t translate very well into movies I guess. Dave Chapelle is hilarious as shit in his standup specials also, but Half-Baked was just ok imo.

Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!

by SentientAndroid on Mar 18, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly

Kevin Hart’s only really great stand-up bit was the stuff about his crazy uncle who just got out of jail. The rest of the show (struggling to remember the name) was meh at best.

"[UFC]’s a great rush, eh? It makes your sphincter get real tight." - Harold Howard

by lowellthehammer on Mar 18, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I remember that

but I also remember seeing a few other bits that I thought were pretty funny as well:

thug talk
rappers
how he fights, etc.

I remember seeing one where he was talking about how he fights and it was more visually funny than anything else. He said something about it was a quick shuffle of the feet, or some shit like that. idk, but the bits that I’ve seen were pretty damn funny.

Anderson Silva, Edson Barboza, Jose Aldo, Charles Oliveira, Thiago Alves = Muay Thai wrecking machines!

by SentientAndroid on Mar 18, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh i'm just talking about the one show I saw on Netflix.

Dunno about the rest of his material.

"[UFC]’s a great rush, eh? It makes your sphincter get real tight." - Harold Howard

by lowellthehammer on Mar 18, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always thought his stand up was overrated

I’m a huge stand up fan and get very few laughs out of his routine.

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brilliant move by Dana White. It’s a win-win for him no matter who wins tomorrow night. Bones/Rachad has been brewing for a few weeks now and will sell great, and Shogun/Rachad was already supposed to happen. Win-win! Oh, and major win for the fans, regardless of the outcome tomorrow night. I would love nothing more than see Rachad being owned by Bones. Let’s see him pull the BS he did against Thiago Silva and Rampage in his last two fights. Jones will hellbows him to a TKO, no doubt about it.

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Fighting a smart fight against Rampge == BS? That’s… that’s unfortunate.

by Pyrgz Krum on Mar 18, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holding down without doing any damage is BS. I really think this sport would be better of without judges, let the guys go until someone’s knocked out or submitted. No more judging. Judging makes fighters play it safe. Either that, or bring back a yellow-card system à la Pride… You get a yellow-card first, then a red-card afterthat, losing you a point. I want to see guys be actively looking to finish a fight… no more lay n’ pray’ing with no damage.

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, one of the reasons Pride is still loved after 6-7 years of not existing was because of the focus on action. There’s no question that something needs to be happening for a MMA fight to be interesting to watch. Nothing worse than watching Randy Couture pinning someone against the cage doing his ‘dirty boxing’ crap that does no damage. Vera did more damage to Couture with one kick than Couture did to him with 3 rounds of mostly pushing him against the cage. And he still won! Damage/action/bleeeeeeeeed!/“however you want to call it” has to account for something in this sport.

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tell that to everyone that has ‘PRIDE NEVER DIE!!!!!’ as their personnal moto! ;-)

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

rampage,Anderson,Shogun,Nog1 and 2,Wanderlei,Overeem 1 and 2,Werdum, Fedor and Mark Hunt do Not Agree.

Plus there is Bj, he may not have fought in Pride. But lord knows he has always fought for pride. Pride isn’t just a league , its a mind set. Its anti-punk-bitchery.
So put that in your pipe and smoke it! Lol

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"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Mar 18, 2011 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Damage/action/bleeeeeeeeed!/"however you want to call it" has to account for something in this sport.

Not to the extent that it completely disregards the rest of the whole fight, which is basically what the Pride scoring system amounted to. Complain about wall n stall all you like, but if the guy getting grinded can’t do anything to stop it, then that’s on him.

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why are referees standing up fighters when the guy on the bottom can’t get out of it then? Isn’t that because the referee is tired of non-action?

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because the rules allow for the refs to get involved if looks like someone’s stalling or resting. But you’ll still have situations where a guy is on top or pressing someone against the cage, but is still active enough not to warrant breaking it up.

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

he did more than that.

he even landed some solid gnp in the end of the 3rd.

GreenHouse

by Loot on Mar 18, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

No judges? That’s pretty crazy, especially if you want the sport to still be sanctioned. Bloodsport!

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I said no judges, not no referees.

Since we like to compare MMA to tennis over here at BE, there aren’t any judges in tennis… why do we need them in MMA? Let’s just fight until someone gives up. What’s wrong with that?

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

You get an idiot like Ken Shamrock

whose goal is to make the fight last 2 hours because he can.

"[UFC]’s a great rush, eh? It makes your sphincter get real tight." - Harold Howard

by lowellthehammer on Mar 18, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know you said judges, hence why I mentioned judges.

And you are going to have a sanctioning issue w/ no judges. And Tennis doesn’t need judges for the same reason football and other sports don’t need them – there’s a relatively objective and more empirical scoring system then in combat sports.

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are a bunch of judges in tennis, you haven’t heard of a line judge before?

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I assumed he meant judges in the way that MMA and boxing utilize judges – to determine the winner of the fight. Your point still stands though. You can’t completely eliminate the need for officials in competitive sports.

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but those judges don’t arbitrarily decide what’s more important in tennis, a smash or a lob… they’re human hawk-eye’s, and won’t even exist in a year or two. You’ll have two players, a head referee and hawkeye calling every shot over the speaker system.

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Holding down without doing any damage is BS."

I agree. Good thing that isn’t what actually happened…

El Santo inspired me to be a submission grappler.

by Enmascarado on Mar 18, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

That second gif is beautiful. Evolution of MMA right there.

by crazybones on Mar 18, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. I enjoyed this fight the first time I saw it,and the second time too, I don’t understand all the fuss. People’s expectations were way too high.

Boys becoming men...Men becoming wolves

by spectaa on Mar 18, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well with all the “black on black crime” both fighters talked about to hype up the fight, why would I expect nothing but a great fight?

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rampage

Said that. Blame him

Sports is human life in microcosm. ~Howard Cosell
The more you sweat in practice, the less you bleed in battle. ~Author Unknown
The breakfast of champions is not cereal, it's the opposition. ~Nick Seitz

by warren305 on Mar 18, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s see a gif of the remainder of the round when Rashad pinned Rampage down until the bell…

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

indeed

the takedown was nice but it wasn’t damaging

"Live fast, die." ~ GG Allin

by Bonedoctor on Mar 18, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which round?

The one Fightmetric has Rashad outlanding Jackson 20-9, the one he outlanded him 20-12, or the one he outlanded him 21-6?

El Santo inspired me to be a submission grappler.

by Enmascarado on Mar 18, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beautiful

Takedown

Sports is human life in microcosm. ~Howard Cosell
The more you sweat in practice, the less you bleed in battle. ~Author Unknown
The breakfast of champions is not cereal, it's the opposition. ~Nick Seitz

by warren305 on Mar 18, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way I read it....

is Rashad SERIOUSLY asking Greg Jackson to choose between him and Jones? It sounds like a desperate cry from Evans for some love from Jackson. Not sure Evans is gonna like how this plays out….

"Don't be intimidated by other teams. You guys got bubble gum cards, too. Let's go." - Buck Showalter

by duck on Mar 18, 2011 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

This seems very similar to the Diego Sanchez upset that GSP joined the team situation…and we all know how that went.

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

an awesome string of great fights and victories, albeit cut short of a belt by one of the greatest the sport has ever seen.

What a terrible mistake!

http://fightdrinker.blogspot.com

by some schmuck in texas on Mar 18, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

to elaborate a little

now that guida and sanchez are both with jackson, even if diego was still at 155 their fight would be impossible. as a fan, I’m glad I got to see it.

http://fightdrinker.blogspot.com

by some schmuck in texas on Mar 18, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

“When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?”

-John Maynard Keynes.

http://fightdrinker.blogspot.com

by some schmuck in texas on Mar 18, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of talking in circles here(not sure I follow), you said it wasn’t a mistake but now it is if I understand correctly?

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

his circumstances have changed

so the smart course of action changed, too. It’s not for me to say whether it was ultimately good for him or not. It was ultimately good for me, though, because I got to see the fights he had at 155, which were mostly pretty awesome. Would I have enjoyed following his career more if he stayed at 170 and jackson’s all this time. No way to tell.

http://fightdrinker.blogspot.com

by some schmuck in texas on Mar 18, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is what made the decision even sillier to me

Complain that they picked up a WW contender so you’re leaving but then change weight as soon as you leave. Find success at LW and lose a devastating match to the Champion, decide that you are better off at WW and move back to your old camp to be put in the situation that you ran away from. I know Diego is crazy but I really have no idea how that thought process worked out.

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you mean.

But even so, I can kind of justify it step by step – obviously I’m just guessing here.

1 – You like Georges more! I’m outtie.
2 – George scares me. Maybe I can whoop BJs ass.
3 – My head hurts, and I’m hungry. Maybe welter’s not so bad after all.
4 – I may never be champ, but I can still get paid and be a star, and have pizza every once in a while to boot.

http://fightdrinker.blogspot.com

by some schmuck in texas on Mar 18, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because they train together doesn't mean they can't fight,

even at Jackson’s. It may mean he doesn’t coach either one personally in their prep, but there is no hard and fast rule against it. Condit for example said he would fight GSP. This is a fighter issue, not a camp issue.

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 18, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

and it makes the Bones/Suga beef sound kinda kayfabe – well, more kayfabe.

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by some schmuck in texas on Mar 18, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really think that is more the case than Rashad simply being butt-hurt.

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 18, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is not asking Jackson to choose anything

What are you talking about? Do you expect them to train at the same camp if they’re about to fight for a title against each other?

by GutenDirk on Mar 18, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does this sound like someone not asking them to choose? Notice the EVER part.

“What’s gonna happen is, the team’s are gonna split apart. If I know there’s a chance I’m training with Jon and Greg’s training with Jon, I’m not gonna train with Greg any more, EVER again. Because I need my coach to always be able to coach me no matter who I’m gonna fight. If he can’t do that, I don’t feel that there’s a use for me having him as my coach.”

Rashad Evans speaks to MMA Heat about the situation with Jon Jones and lead trainer Greg Jackson.

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

It must be upsetting for him

because he’s been at Jackson’s with Jardine since before it was the camp of the year.

My first tweet ever was to Dana white to escrew the Guillard/ Roller and Danzig/ Cerrone fights to have Guillard fight Cerrone. I completely forgot they also trained at Jackson’s together. Cerrone has been there for a while and Guillard seems completely into the team culture

by Austin Martin on Mar 18, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Read more to me like the decision has already been made – if Bones wins, Rashad’s off to another camp. It’s almost a shame, as in it almost doesn’t even matter what other camp he goes to – strategically he’ll be at a disadvantage w/ Jackson coaching Bones.

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Rashad hate

Is just plain silly. Everything he says is twisted and skewed to fit this prevalent point of view that he’s just some terrible person, who can’t fight, and that no one likes. Bones is actually the wrong one for betraying his team and ‘friends’ to further his career. Rampage himself said that Rashad beat the crap out of him, and that even in better shape, he didn’t know if he could beat him.

Sports is human life in microcosm. ~Howard Cosell
The more you sweat in practice, the less you bleed in battle. ~Author Unknown
The breakfast of champions is not cereal, it's the opposition. ~Nick Seitz

by warren305 on Mar 18, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

fucking hate Rashad

stop crying like a whining bitch and have a fight already.
prove that u are the right contender for the title shot
he didnt fight almost a year and if he just sits and waits for that fucking title shot, that means he just decides not to fight for over a year just because he doesnt wanna risk his top contender position. it wasnt even like he was injured during the time. he was once, which was a minor one
i rly hope he faces some serious ring rust and loses miserably by shogun/jones (hopefully jones, because that will be fucking hilarious.)

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by DK_Monster on Mar 18, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

stop crying like a whining bitch and have a fight already.

lol, you’re aware he was injured recently, right?

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

which he already got recovered from?

yes i am aware of that

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by DK_Monster on Mar 18, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then why are you complaining? If he wasn’t injured, he’d be fighting Shogun this Saturday.

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok he got injured and now hes completely healthy

then he can have a fight to balance his condition. but instead of having a fight, hes being a bitch, and he ducked the rampage fight and he just wants to wait for the title shot, so that way he doesnt have to risk his top contender status.

what kind of bitch move is that? after shogun vs jones, whoever wins, the champ prob wont have a fight for at least 3~4 months. and possibly more than 4 months. that term is def. long enough for rashad to have a fight to readjust his conditioning and prevent ring rust. but baby rashad is so worried of losing his top contender status so he’s just waiting for the title fight and not fight. and that why im complaining.

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by DK_Monster on Mar 18, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where was it said he ducked the Rampage fight? As I recall, it was Dana who wasn’t interested in doing that fight again. And why not wait for a title shot that you earned, instead of just putting it out there for grabs for no reason? Where’s the uptake in that? Quite frnkly, w/ the way Dana has played fast and loose w/ other title shots, if he really wanted Rashad to fight again so badly, he could have simply told Rashad that he had to fight again or risk losing the shot.

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow, lol.

He didn’t duck anyone. He’s fought Thiago Silva, Lyoto Machida, Rampage Jackson, Chuck Liddel, Forrest Griffin. He was in line to fight Shogun Rua until injured, and his next fight will be against Jon Jones or Shogun. Foolhardy fans can complain all they want. This is a business, and it’s possible his wait affected his situation negatively, but it also seems he’s still in line for the biggest fight of his career, possibly his biggest payday, and the opportunity to win the LHW strap again.

There are no fights available right now for Rashad outside of the winner of the title fight. T. Silva already lost to Rashad, and just popped for roids/painkillers or something. Rampage took a fight against Matt Hammill (while Rashad said he was willing to fight Rampage but Dana said no). Rich is coming off a loss, so is Bader. Rogerio is lined up to fight Phil Davis, etc. Forrest is hurt (I think). Lyoto is fighting Randy, etc…

At this point waiting makes sense for Rashad, and for the UFC. cool your jets.

GreenHouse

by Loot on Mar 18, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Which ones? The ones where he finished Chuck and Forrest, or the ones where Thiago and Rampage could barely do anything to him?

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't let facts and/or reality get in the way buddy?

Sports is human life in microcosm. ~Howard Cosell
The more you sweat in practice, the less you bleed in battle. ~Author Unknown
The breakfast of champions is not cereal, it's the opposition. ~Nick Seitz

by warren305 on Mar 18, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You ever fought in cage?

Its funny because you’re telling him to stop ‘whining like a bitch’, when that is exactly what you are doing. :)

Sports is human life in microcosm. ~Howard Cosell
The more you sweat in practice, the less you bleed in battle. ~Author Unknown
The breakfast of champions is not cereal, it's the opposition. ~Nick Seitz

by warren305 on Mar 18, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone called it

and said if these two fight one of them would be leaving greg jacksons camp and not going back. LMAO straight bitch move though i understand leaving to train for the fight but if thats your team thats your team. lol he’s starting to catch feelings.

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by AndersonSativa on Mar 18, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Can’t guys fight without each other getting into some mindless melodrama that clutters up the front page of BE.
Go train somewhere else for that fight, fight, hug it out, go back training together.

by malkav on Mar 18, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

if my teacher didnt pick me over a new student

I would be hurt aswell. When you train 5-6 days a week several hours a day.you spend more time with your school than you do your family. It would be a bit insulting to be treated like we haven’t been friends for a decade and I was put on the same level as some new guy.

"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie

"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Mar 18, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The new guy has more upside

And that’s business folks. Jackson would be silly to shoo away Jones at this point of his career. I would choose Jones as well if it was my decision and Rashad was pushing the issue.

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly
If we gotta fight, then we gotta get away from each other. I just have to sit down and decide, ’What’s it gonna be?’ because there’s never gonna be no going back. There’s no makin’ it better or going back to the team after it’s done. If [Jones and I] agree to fight, if we say we’re gonna fight, it’s over. I would divorce myself from Jacksons."

Rashad is the one talking about leaving, when there is no reason other than his own desire to separate himself out of spite.

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 18, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats my point

If I got hung out to dry over business after a 10 year relationship than that wouldn’t be the place for me. Loyalty, and honor shouldn’t just be words at a dojo.

"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie

"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Mar 18, 2011 10:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

but if greg said hey jones trains at grudge and you train here or something.

I would be cool with that.
 Rashad just seems to have hurt feelings. Which I empathize with.
Also I would fight anyone but my teacher for 10000 dollars.

"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart." - Rickson Gracie

"Wanderlei eventually got to his feet and stalked Fujita like a Japanese octopus in an all-female prison." - Sean Baby Cracked.com

by the-gentle-way on Mar 18, 2011 10:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Once you coach

Coaches someone to beat you. I’m pretty sure he stops being your coach.

Sports is human life in microcosm. ~Howard Cosell
The more you sweat in practice, the less you bleed in battle. ~Author Unknown
The breakfast of champions is not cereal, it's the opposition. ~Nick Seitz

by warren305 on Mar 18, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Rashad could do like the BTT guys planned for the 2005 GP finals in case they had to fight for the finals, a grappling match. I’m sure it would piss Dana off, but it’s still a fight.

by Rammie on Mar 18, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey, I didn’t said it would be better for us fans, just for their relationship in the camp.

by Rammie on Mar 18, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, it wouldn’t just piss Dana off, people would start throwing CHAIRS.

Boys becoming men...Men becoming wolves

by spectaa on Mar 18, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure there’s a ladder somewhere under the ring… there always is!

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

What, no barbed wire two by fours or sledgehammers under that sumbitch? Lame.

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I’m concernced, any Zoolander reference will get a rec.

by Ether Bunny on Mar 18, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

So now he’s questioning Shogun’s heart, christ.

".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."

by dancingChicken on Mar 18, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

you really take this stuff seroiusly bro?

psych 101

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by AndersonSativa on Mar 18, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

So now you’re questioning my seriousness, christ, you guys are so arrogant.

".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."

by dancingChicken on Mar 18, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa bro, bro… some pretty negative vibes up in here right now, let’s just calm out and mellow down a bit.

by Pyrgz Krum on Mar 18, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m kidding, bro.

".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."

by dancingChicken on Mar 18, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was surprised that there’s no “Jones is arrogant” theme…

".He still has a ground game that seems heavily dependent on lying still and hoping that his opponent won't notice his very kimura-able arm..."

by dancingChicken on Mar 18, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who really cares if Rashad gets the next shot??

I don’t know of anyone getting excited over Rashad fighting anyone, so why is Dana so adament on giving him a shot?? Rampage will have fought twice since Rashad beat him, give Rampage the shot. This is a total slap in the face to Okami who works his ass off but gets shafted while apparently Rashad is some amazing, entertaining fighter that deserves his 16 months off followed by a title shot.

by FCC_bigE on Mar 18, 2011 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

why is Dana so adament on giving him a shot??

Because he, oh, I don’t know, earned the next title shot already?

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did he? He beat Thiago Silva and Rampage Jackson, both pretty unconvincingly, I might add… What harm would it have done to tell Rachad he needs another quality win before he can get another title shot?

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he did. The fight against Rampage was for the next contender at 205.

As far as being unconvincing, please. Except for those last minute hail marys that neither fighter was able to capitalize on, Rashad beat them pretty definitively.

What harm would it have done to tell Rachad he needs another quality win before he can get another title shot?

Tell that to Dana White. Since he presented it as an option for Rashad, Rashad opted not to fight for nothing and keep his title shot.

by Hardcase on Mar 18, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

More people paid money for Rashad’s last fight than watched Jones’s most recent fight on free TV.

by Jonathan Snowden on Mar 18, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

His last fight was also his most hyped oh his career more than likely and the match up had 3 months of hostility from TUF as advertising, not quite the same marketing behind those events so the numbers should lean toward Evans vs Rampage.

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t change the fact that Rashad has drawn more people to the box office than Jones by a large margin. Has drawn in excess of a million people on PPV twice. He’s generally sold pretty well, except for 109 which his supporting bout had fucking Dustin Hazelett in it.

by Jonathan Snowden on Mar 18, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

My bet is that UFC 128 will sell more with Jones in it than it would’ve with Rashad in it. And of course, we’ll never know if that’s true or not, which is the beauty of my bet on this, I can’t lose!

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is Jones first PPV headlining fight and his career is much younger than Rashad’s. You are skewing the numbers to act like Rashad is a huge draw but Jones isn’t, that remains to be seen because he hasn’t been around as long or in the positions that Rashad was. How can you ignore the fact that Rashad had the TUF marketing machine behind him for that performance and the fact that it is highly likely that more people tuned in to see Rampage than Rashad?

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

People paid money to see TUF coaches go at it after a long feud, not necessarily because it was Rashad. Rashad has headlined unsuccessful shows before, against Thiago Silva at 109 (IIRC), namely. And of the two fighters, Rampage is probably more popular, no?

by Shnak on Mar 18, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would think Rampage is exponentially more popular than Rashad.

by Storry on Mar 18, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

People tuning in to hate on a fighter

Brings in the same ratings, revenue, and intrigue as people tuning in to love a fighter. I love the ‘no body cares about Rashad’ comments. Yet here you are commenting again and again, about Rashad. I wouldn’t be surprised if Evans articles were the top commented articles on BE, its all hate, but that doesn’t matter

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by warren305 on Mar 18, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rashad should move down to MW

like he said he wanted to do and try to make some waves I’d pay to see him fight Silva. hope this happens before he befriends him.

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by AndersonSativa on Mar 18, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

The guy has lost once, in a title shot, and you’re telling him he would be better off fighting in a different weigh-class?? Really??

by MMAussie on Mar 18, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

While I do disagree with the notion absurd notion that a fighter should move down a weight class when they lose thier edge in their current weight class, I don’t think that was AndersonStavia’s point. Rashad has mentioned the idea before and let’s be honest, the MW could use some more talent and less people that train at the sames gym.

by Ether Bunny on Mar 18, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rashad is better suited for MW, where he wouldn’t be perennially undersized against the newer elite MMA Wrestlers.

That, and he would actually have a good shot at beating Anderson, considering he doesn’t use the sort of sweeps and stand-up techniques that Shogun would use to exploit Rashad’s weak top control.

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by The American Ronin on Mar 18, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its crazy that he WON the Ultimate Fighter as a Heavyweight

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The more you sweat in practice, the less you bleed in battle. ~Author Unknown
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by warren305 on Mar 18, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Of course, Kenny fought on TUF as a MW, and several other funny ones. Rashad was so soft looking on TUF, although that wasn’t as uncommon then as now I suppose.

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." -Mark Twain
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

by The American Ronin on Mar 18, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melvin and Guida

may have some concerns of their own. If Melvin beats Roller and Guida beats Pettis (I hope he doesn’t), then I could really see Dana pitting Melvin and Guida against each other.

Cerrone maybe after another solid 2 wins/performances could possibly see himself against either man as well. Joe Stevenson is a non-factor at this point in his career though…

by SentientAndroid on Mar 18, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Where's Elliot ?

I need to gloat.

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by TheFilt on Mar 18, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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