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Miesha Tate Wants Strikeforce Fights With Gina Carano, Marloes Coenen

Strikeforce women's welterweight contender Miesha Tate wants a fight with Gina Carano in the future. Photo by Esther Lin/Strikeforce

When Miesha Tate heard Gina Carano was coming back to Strikeforce, she wanted a piece of her for her comeback fight. While not officially announced, Carano is expected to make her return to MMA in June at Strikeforce: Overeem vs. Werdum

"I asked for that fight," Tate said Tuesday on Bloody Elbow Radio. "I just threw it out there, I was like, 'Hey, how about me fighting Gina for her comeback fight, wouldn't that be awesome?' And I didn't really get any response, so I have no idea. But if it does happen, it'll probably be down the road a little bit. I have a belt to win."

That belt is the Strikeforce women's welterweight championship, currently held by Marloes Coenen. Tate was scheduled to fight Coenen earlier this month at Strikeforce: Feijao vs. Henderson but had to pull out due to a knee injury suffered during wrestling practice.

Even though she wants the belt, Tate recognizes the benefits that come with fighting Carano, who has been involved in some of the highest-rated fights in MMA history. Her last fight, against Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos in August 2009, was, up until Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Silva, the most watched Strikeforce broadcast on Showtime. Her fights with Kaitlin Young and Kelly Kobald were seen by millions on CBS.

"It's beneficial to me," Tate said of why she wants the fight. "Sharing the limelight with Gina is always good. She's got a lot of fan base and exposure. At the end of the day, that's a lot of what gets you paid if you have a big following. When your contract renegotiations come around, you can say, 'Hey, people want to watch me fight.' So I think that fight would be really appealing to me because I think I have a lot to gain from it, win or lose. A lot of people are going to see me out there, see me fighting because they want to see Gina. Hopefully a lot of her fans have become my fans and supporters."

Tate, though, also has her eyes set on Coenen's belt, a fight she's hoping to get once again once her knee is fully recovered in a few weeks. Coenen successfully defended her title against Tate's replacement, Liz Carmouche, in Columbus, Ohio, but needed an Anderson Silva-like triangle choke in the fourth round to do it after losing two of the first three rounds on all three scorecards.

"She just looked a little off," Tate said of Coenen. "Maybe 135 is starting to take a toll on her. It looked like she kind of gassed out a little bit and that could be a result of cutting too much weight. Liz, pound-for-pound, is a very strong girl, you can tell that. She's just a little green. Marloes was able to prevail and she's obviously got a big heart, there's no question about that. She got the submission in the fourth round, but had it been a regular fight, she would've lost."

Ater the fight with Coenen, though, Tate wouldn't mind a fight with Carano, which she'd prefer to happen at 140 pounds. Tate said "given the right circumstances," she'd fight Carano at 145 pounds.

That of course, opens up questions on whether or not she'd fight Santos, Strikeforce's women's middleweight champion, at 145 pounds.

"Gina's a little different then Cyborg," Tate said.

"First of all, I'd need a lot of time to train for it because I'd have to change my body. Naturally, I'm just a lot smaller of an athlete. Cyborg is actually a monster at 145. She's as small as she can get and is very lean. She is a true 145-pounder, if not bigger. Some other girls are not true at the weight, they could probably shed some pounds and fight at a lighter weight. That would have to come in time. I definitely think everybody's beatable and I wouldn't doubt that I could beat Cyborg. If I did, I wouldn't be in the fight game period. I always have to believe in myself. And it'd have to be the right payday as well."

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You can hear the entire interview with Tate by listening to Tuesday's edition of Bloody Elbow Radio. The show returns at 4 p.m. ET Thursday with a full preview of UFC 128.

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I'm not the biggest fan of Women's MMA

but I do enjoy watching Tate fight.

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by Nate Wilcox on Mar 16, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Tate can beat Coenan, but I do think she stands a good chance against Carano. I’d also really like to see Tate fight Kaufman.

by Keren on Mar 16, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

isn't Carano just a lot bigger than her?

like 15 lbs bigger?

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by Nate Wilcox on Mar 16, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and when Gina gets to play bully

gals get cracked.

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by Nate Wilcox on Mar 16, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true, but I think Tate it smart enough and has the ability to keep Gina down. Whenever Gina’s on the ground she looks lost.

by Keren on Mar 16, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gina would explode her face even worse than Kaitlin Young did.

by Steve4192 on Mar 16, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

She handled Tonya Evinger just fine, and Tonya has some pretty decent wrestling. Also, the one area where she gave Cyborg problems was in her wrestling. Everytime Cyborg tried to throw her she wound up underneath Gina.

by Steve4192 on Mar 16, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great example given to counter Steve's

I’ll do it for you – Tate has come a long way since leaning into 3 high kicks on the same side in 30 seconds. Look at the minimal amount of shots the accredited striker Maiju Kujala landed on her. ;)

by Takeshi_M on Mar 19, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on whether or not she’s making weight that night.

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by alicks on Mar 16, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

touche!

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by Nate Wilcox on Mar 16, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tate and Kaufman already fought once. Kaufman UD.

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by Matt Bishop on Mar 16, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two years ago — and they’ve both improved. At least, I’d like to see a rematch.

by Keren on Mar 16, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Tate can beat Coenen…

You crazy. Tate is Carmouche with better takedowns, sub defense and top control. I think Tate wins that fight handily (unfortunately, because she’s not terribly exciting to watch).

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by lowellthehammer on Mar 16, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think she has Carmouche’s strength/power.

Granted, her top control is better, but I think Coenan learned a lot from that fight and will (hopefully) work on her wrestling and not just depend on her submissions when she’s in a bad position.

by Keren on Mar 16, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

She doesn't have enough time to get her wrestling on Tate's level.

We’ll see if and when they fight, but I’d put money on Tate easy. Which sucks because Coenen is fantastic to watch and that Carmouche fight was my favorite fight on that card.

"[UFC]’s a great rush, eh? It makes your sphincter get real tight." - Harold Howard

by lowellthehammer on Mar 16, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seeing Liz Carmouche use her wrestling and passing game to seriously put Marloes Coenen in danger was very impressive. If Liz could have laid down some more convicing ground strikes during the time when she was in mount she could very well have been the new champ. Coenen was having a lot of trouble escaping.

Unfortunately, I don’t really think Tate has that kind of style, and Coenen is amazing outside of that one aforementioned slight weakness in her game.

by Pyrgz Krum on Mar 16, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Imagine if it was a month later for that Coenen/Carmouche fight and she could’ve used elbows. Not saying she could’ve used them effectively, but it would’ve added a lot of interesting options.

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by Matt Bishop on Mar 16, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coenen will definitely need to rethink her ground defense.

Wing blocking doesn’t work when your opponent can square up and drop a slicing elbow down the middle of your guard.

by Steve4192 on Mar 16, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a problem with fighters calling out big names they think they can beat instead of the much better fighters.

by Shnak on Mar 16, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Since when were Gina and Marloes easy opponents?

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by Damon O. on Mar 16, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yo

I apologize for my comment, I don’t usually post dumb stuff like that.

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by DamnSevern on Mar 16, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense.

If the name value of a fighter exceeds their perceived skill you’d be an idiot not to go after them. Easy way to make a name for yourself without a lot of risk.

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by lowellthehammer on Mar 16, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it shows one of two things. 1) She doesn’t think Gina is a very good fighter but has a big name or 2) She knows she’ll get destroyed by Cyborg. Either way, she looks bad by not going after the best in the world; ie. she’s scared (to reuse a term many use to describe GSP being hesitant to go after Silva).

by Shnak on Mar 16, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gorgeous

Simply gorgeous girl.

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by Gremio on Mar 16, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Random

I cannot stand Karyn Bryant interviews, who’s with me?

by OhhhGLS on Mar 16, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Tate got her block knocked off in that one

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by Damon O. on Mar 16, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

She was far more experienced than her opponent.

Young was making her pro debut that night.

by Steve4192 on Mar 16, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No she wasn't.

That was Youngs 3rd fight.
It was Tates 2nd
so…

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by RolloTomasi on Mar 16, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction
That was only her 4th or 5th fight tho.

2nd fight.

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by RolloTomasi on Mar 16, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't want it with Duece

by doonerthesooner on Mar 16, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So much for my comment, lol.

by BJJDenver on Mar 16, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The real question is

Has either of them won the panty dropper of the month award?

Seriously, though, I want to see Gina fight again. I still have that horrifying image of her having Cyborg in a mount, before she suddnely decided to get off the mount to throw a couple of feeble backtracking punches. Why Gina, why??

by Kid_Roll on Mar 16, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Like Ryan Bader pulling guard against Jon Jones and Matt Hughes throwing that leg kick in his third fight with BJ Penn, some decisions just leave you scratching your head.

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by Matt Bishop on Mar 16, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, yep, I’ve never been in the cage, so I can’t really judge what goes through your head during a fight, but with that being said, sometimes it’s painful to see someone make the clear cut wrong choice. Just leaves you in shock.

I need Gina to knock someone out so I can refresh my last image of her. Something I will have to learn to live with when Lyodo kills Randy with a knee to the midsection. :(

by Kid_Roll on Mar 16, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

hope

SF can put some serious mileage into the women’s game before the end of their innings and I cannot imagine a more promotable fight (which wouldn’t then lead up to a one sided Cyborg style beating) than Carano/Tate… I hope everything lines up…

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by rohedron on Mar 16, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

WHAT BS MANUVERING THIS IS!

If you can do the division (Miesha has fought at 150 btw) and don’t want anything to do with the Champion, YOU DON’T GET TO PICK YOUR FIGHT! Also, what kind of ‘comeback’ fight has this level of opposition proposed? Tate’s SF semifinal tourney opponent (Kujala) had half her experience. After her loss to Kaufman, Tate’s rebound was a 1-4 fighter! (Sarah Oriza)

Tate: “Hopefully a lot of her fans have become my fans and supporters.”
Their peers only like Carano and Laud her for her effect on FeMMA, here’s what they say about Tate: (its not soo good)

-Martijn De Jong (Marloes Coenen’s trainer)
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-Tara Larosa
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@04:39

-Tonya Evinger:
Youtube – “Tonya Evinger really, really hates Miesha Tate”

-Kim Couture – http://www.nokaut.com/?id=12&lang=e&solo_news=3370

by Takeshi_M on Mar 17, 2011 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

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