UFC 128 Fight Card: Shogun Rua Beats Lyoto Machida Full Video
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Mine too.
I remember yelling “Where is your karate now, playboy?!” to the confusion of everyone around me. Life of an MMA nerd.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 14, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Gotta love it
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by Derek Suboticki on Mar 14, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually have to go to a birthday party Saturday Night
with my GF. I am paying the host to order the fight and bringing my laptop and air card so I can be part of the live thread. I know everyone at the party is gonna be looking at me like, “Who is this nerd in here by himself, on his laptop, yelling at the TV?” The last time I was over there was when Fedor lost to Werdum and I was screaming SH*T!!!". They looked at me like I had a disease. I tried to explain to them the significance of this and it was like trying to explain algebra to my dog. Needless to say, I haven’t been back since. But, like I told my girl- people need to start checking for UFC title fights when they plan stuff. I said it was like scheduling a B-day party during the SuperBowl. They still don’t get it.
Just Breed!
by ScoreCardOTN on Mar 14, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I tried to explain to them the significance of this and it was like trying to explain algebra to my dog.
Very nice. We also would have accepted “a watch to a pig.”
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by Derek Suboticki on Mar 14, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I have krcampbell to thank for that.
"[UFC]’s a great rush, eh? It makes your sphincter get real tight." - Harold Howard
by lowellthehammer on Mar 14, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, Hampton Roads VA.
Turns out I’m not as original as I thought, haha.
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by lowellthehammer on Mar 15, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
unless Shogun loses this saturday
probably won’t happen for a long time
by Body Triangle on Mar 14, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida was doing much better than I remembered
he just got sloppy with dropping his hands when he lunged in.
Shogun trained him to worry about kicks to the legs and body in the first fight which perfectly set up the kill shot in the second.
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He definitely drops his hands, worried about a body shot
I also think he underestimated Shogun’s reach. That hand flys around and hits the middle/back of his temple…he probably didn’t see it coming.
by Body Triangle on Mar 14, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
But that fight was really, really high level with Shogun getting the best of the strikes to the head and the legs while in the clinch, but he was getting his midsection demolished by those knees and being put on the ground twice with relative ease.
The way I see it, had Lyoto not gotten caught when he did, he would’ve fought some more slipping some hard punches here and there, not to mention more possible ground work, but in the end he would have lost just the same.
That was a great almost-whole round.
by Unabomberman on Mar 14, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless of my Lyoto love, both those fights were amazing to watch. Loved every minute but the last:)
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 14, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope so! I could watch them fight once a year.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 14, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Those fights were absolute clinics of MMA fighting, showcasing what is great and different about the sport.
by Unabomberman on Mar 14, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s over simplifying it, but most who thought Shogun won the first fight, overlooked how much Lyoto landed as well. I thought they were both even fights, Lyoto just has less KO power than Shogun, and got sloppy about dropping the hands. He damn near cracked Shogun at the same time. Game of inches.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 14, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not that Lyoto doesn't have KO power
he does, it’s just that Shogun has a hell of a chin, that dude got tagged a few times in his career that would have made others drop, while he stood. And Lyoto is always dropping his hands though.
yo no quiero hacer mas nada
How's the spanish coming, Orcus?
And agreed- Machida doesn’t rely on his hands as much for defense, as he usually darts in and believes himself to be quick enough to immediately dart back out.
by Body Triangle on Mar 14, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
ha
that’s a saying we have here at work, when we have too much stuff to do we go; yo no quiero hacer más nada!
then the first thing I do is go to bloodyelbow.com
:p
yo no quiero hacer mas nada
That's quite an odd way of saying it for me. Almost overtly polite.
Where is that spanish from?
by Unabomberman on Mar 14, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea who started it
we’re a bunch of weridos at work, we have a bunch of odd sayings and make weird sounds, the people beside our office surfers quite a bit, they all think we’re a bunch of crazies
yo no quiero hacer mas nada
orcus, you get a free pass anyway
cuz you post the most awesome portuguese translations, so fuck up spanish all you want really.
by Body Triangle on Mar 14, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
we just say “asi es la vida” kkkk
by Body Triangle on Mar 14, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Or...
“Ya no quiero hacer nada.”
And yeah, brazillians can get around bad spanish just like mexicans can get around with bad portuguese. The funny thing is that both can sort of understand what each other says. I can sort of make out what the brazillian fighters say and that’s awesome!
by Unabomberman on Mar 14, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yo tambien
o…eu tambem!
but i got lucky- i have my own personal translator who watches the fights with me.
Afterwards, she lets me do stuff to her.
by Body Triangle on Mar 14, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
I have spoken to a lot of Hispanics traveling through Brazil and we can keep the dialogue open for a long time with no problems, it’s even better for me than to talk to Portuguese people (those I might not always understand hehe).
yo no quiero hacer mas nada
I understand Brazillians somewhat clearly, but the Portuguese? Not so much.
by Unabomberman on Mar 14, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a shame that coming in is when he got caught. It was that decision that screwed him over.
by Unabomberman on Mar 14, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He got caught
Because he thought Shogun was going to throw a jab and he came in to counter with his same Parry-Cross he always throws. Except Shogun never threw that jab like his footwork was implying. He countered Machidas counter with the overhand right.
Machida got owned by his own habits.
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by judonerd on Mar 14, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Machida wasn’t the downfall of Machida. Shogun and his smarty pants were ’cause he knew what he was doing when he did his thing.
by Unabomberman on Mar 14, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Shogun does have a great chin, but Lyoto’s landed huge shots on guys like Tito and Soko as they rushed forward, dropped them, and they were only mildly rocked. It took a hell of a lot of punches to finish Rashad. You know I’m a huge Lyoto fan, I just think his punching power is pretty average. He landed a bomb on Shogun in the first fight, and Shogun rushed for his first takedown attempt to recover, but Shogun shook it off like nothing in mere seconds.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 14, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
that's true
the thing is that Machida has been working on his power for a while, getting bigger and I’m not sure he was as big during the Tito and Soko fight as he was during Rashad’s and Shogun’s, but that’s true that he connected with those guys as well.
yo no quiero hacer mas nada
And here I am again, thinking Shogun’s probably going to lose, but at least this time I don’t really have a dog in this. Big fan of both. I expect to be amazed either way:)
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 14, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t you say a while back that you were giving up picking against Jones until he actually gets beaten, or words to that effect?
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by The American Ronin on Mar 14, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. “I won’t pick against Jon Jones again until I see him lose.” My other gem was “Watching Jon Jones fight is like watching a superhero discover his powers” if I can blow my horn a bit:) Like I said, Shogun’s “probably” going to lose. What the hell are you saying? That I’m backing off? That I’m soft? -Umm…maybe a bit. It’s more just that I love both these guys, and respect them both a lot. I want Jon to win, but to a certain extent I’m extra invested because I was sold on him early. Kind of the same thing on Machida. A friend of mine showed me the BJ Penn and Rich Franklin fights after Lyoto fought Nakamura, and I was just pretty fascinated with his style and background. I’ve only been a big fan of MMA for maybe 5 years. Before that it was just whatever fights friends sent me on the internet or watching at their place. So I had a weird hodgepodge and heard about a lot people and fights after the fact. Since then, I’m become crazily, and unprofitably obsessed of course, but it’s cool to occasionally pick someone out early and see them rise to the title. There was a time when I thought Carlos Condit was probably the best WW in the world after GSP, I confess:) Glad to see his finally making moves toward becoming that…
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by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 14, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree
I want, and expect, Jones to win, but Shogun has clear paths to victory as well. Should Jones lose, I think this will be his ‘Hughes by armbar’ moment.
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by The American Ronin on Mar 15, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that’s a damn good way to put it. You know how it is, when a big fight gets close, I start imagining all kinds of different ways it could go down. No one but Jon should be feeling sure when it’s Shogun you’re fighting.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 15, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
This has all of the hallmarks of an excellent fight
Both guys have a clear, viable path to victory. I tend to believe Jones has the advantage with the 6-week prep time due to his camp already preparing for Shogun, but he is at real risk of either peaking too early or overtraining.
Both guys have shown elite level fight IQs, an excellent ability to adapt mid-round and elite killer instincts. Rua has an elite chin, Jones at least a good one. Neither guy has ever faced anyone remotely like the other. This will be Jones’ first time to face someone with speed and quickness that fairly rivals his.
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by The American Ronin on Mar 15, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m actually not among those banking on Shogun being off due to the knees or whatnot. I expect him to be dangerous as hell, and I don’t think Jon is going to emerge from this unscathed. I would bet the house on Jon if he had more experience, but we’ve never seen him hurt, and it’s difficult to guess whether Jon is truly calm and confident or will get a little overwhelmed. I tend to think it’s better for him that he didn’t have 3 months or more tying himself into knots trying to counter everything Shogun can do. But Shogun is going to be hard to finish, even if Jon takes him down at will. I think he needs to be ready to do damage from the top and not try to engage in a BJJ fight with Rua. I expect Shogun to be able to get to his feet pretty well while he’s fresh, so Jon needs to be prepared for the long haul in this one, and not get discouraged if he can’t just maul Shogun in the first round or two. I think Shogun will have trouble finding him on their feet, and unlike Lyoto, Jon will be more than happy to put Shogun on his back off his kicks. If Jon stays cool, he’ll eventually beat Shogun down or choke him out in the late third or fourth round.
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 15, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
So I want and expect Jon to win, and kick off a long reign as one of the sport’s greats. But if he loses this one, I’m not going to be crushed, cause at 23 years old Jon Jones has upside all day like a MotherF*******!
What's this war in the heart of nature? Why does nature vie with itself? The land contend with the sea? Is there an avenging power in nature? Not one power, but two?
by Kwisatz Haderach on Mar 14, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I would agree that he looked better.....
…although after they break from the clinch at the 2 minute mark, he takes a deep breath.
It doesn’t look like he dropped his hands though, I mean, it looks like he throws a punch and gets countered over the top.
How could he have protected himself while throwing that strike?
I remembered it differently
I always thought it was pretty even leading up to the knockout, and even kind of gave Machida the edge, but this rewatch had it all Shogun.
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Those clean knees to the midsection were brutal, though; and also getting taken down twice to the ground with relative ease can’t be good. It’s good that he had the capability of ending it when he did.
by Unabomberman on Mar 14, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Even though it didn’t work, I feel Machida came in with the right game plan. He bulked up a bit and tried to focus on using grappling. Shogun sucked him into a brawl though and you don’t want to brawl with a MT guy…
by MichaelJonathan1985 on Mar 14, 2011 7:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Machida easily stuffed Shogun’s takedown attempts and instead took him down both times. Crazy as this sounds, after rewatching it looks like Machida was tired and sucking wind 2 minutes into it…
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by The American Ronin on Mar 14, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Shogun finishes fights as if he actually has a samurai sword
Man that was over quickly. Efficient and brutal finish.
Man...Shogun's control is incredible.
If Wanderlei invented controlled chaos, then Shogun perfected it. Look how he smashes Machida’s head, then, as its about to hit the ground, he’s already swinging another punch (which I think ends up being the knockout blow). Hits him two more times, then walks away before the ref steps in. Ladies and Gentlemen, Shoguuuuuun RUUUUU-HAAAAAAAA!!!
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My sentiments exactly. Controlled brawling..
by MichaelJonathan1985 on Mar 14, 2011 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jones is talented but he simply does not hit that hard and I don’t think he has ever been hit that hard as well. Rua has never been knocked out and is proficient on his back. I just don’t see how Jones wins this unless it goes to a decision. He is not going to finish him.
(hoping against this)
I think, depending on Shogun’s cardio, he could finish him with some new unorthodox submission (see Phil Davis) or a Matyushenko-style crucifix TKO.
Not that he’ll get knocked out, but he’ll be too tired to intelligently defend himself.
by Body Triangle on Mar 14, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe. I just don’t see Shogun falling into that kind of crucifix. He is too talented and experienced on the ground. I have never seen him KO’d. I have seen him get hurt but by guys who hi a hell of a lot harder than Jones. Jones’ time will come, just not yet and not against Rua.
Jones punches aren't very strong
But if he were to pull of a move like against Bonnar, the spinning back elbow, and if it hit flush on the chin or temple, I think Shogun would get a little wobbled. And if hit in the right spot, we might be seeing a broken orbital.
If Jones can get a comfortable top position(pretty much never gonna happen with Shogun) and starts popping his hellbows down, I don’t think it’d be impossible to see another face breaking.
My head says Shogun is too much too fast, but my heart says Jones just might be ‘That guy’
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by Chris Groves on Mar 14, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Doubt he turns the lights off, but a stoppage is not at all unlikely imo…
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by The American Ronin on Mar 14, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
If Bones finishes
He finishes with elbows from the top.
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Do you really except him to be able to maintain
Top control against Shogun?
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by Drunken cutman on Mar 15, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Shogun gets taken down easily
Fair enough, but the last to people to do it in the UFC both kind of got that face that cat makes in the “wtf was that gif” when he stops licking his hand. Lyoto and Chuck took him down, Shogun threatened with their legs and with sweeps, and they both just went “abort abort abort.”
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Yeah, it’s pretty amazing how often he gets taken down from fairly innocuous looking attempts. But it’s even more amazing how often he (quickly) gets his feet back.
Jones is a beast absofuckinglutely, but, as a talking point, Vera did manage to get back up in their fight.
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by Ephemeral Artery on Mar 14, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen this fight at least 100 times
and it’s still weird to see Machida out like that.
Fuckin’ brutal.
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just reminds me of the hundo i won off the fight
and then the drinks i bought for everybody except this doush wrestler guy. Eff that guy.
by Body Triangle on Mar 14, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup I won money from 3 people on that fight myself.
All people who thought Machida won the first time.
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I think the ease that Machida got that trip and blocked Shogun’s TD attempt(the throw not the shoot) is something Shogun really needs to improve on for this fight cause Jones has some of the slickest takedowns I have seen and I think itll be alot harder for Shogun to stand back up against Jones than it was against Machida. I would love to see Shogun KO Jones (just to give the Pride Era fighters some life and I think it would turn Jones into an even bigger beast) but I really think this end by TKO after Jones takes Shogun down.
I think every time Rua gets taken down
he needs to get up like pronto. He did a good job against Machida. I have a feeling Rua is gonna beat Jones the exact same way Cain destroyed Lesnar. Every time he was taken down, he got right back up and was relentless. I can see Jones against the cage, curled up, thinking WTF just happened? And I think for once Rogan would be speechless.
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It was the end of an era.
The end of an era in which I believe Joe Rogan’s declarations about fighters beginning eras.
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Fight ends at the 14:28 mark.
But man, what a fight.
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by The One Who Wears The Crown on Mar 14, 2011 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
Sorry but Machidas top control just looked terrible. He was just sitting there. In no way to i see Jones letting him back up that easily. My prediction is thats where the fights gonna end, by either Jones GnP or shogun submission off his back
His top control is a weak point, but he didn’t even try to do anything with the takedown either time but rest…hard as it would be to believe, Machida looked winded to me 2 minutes in…
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by The American Ronin on Mar 14, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea I agree he looked real winded but he got the takedown fairly easy. Jones is not gonna lay on him like Machida does here. Hellbows will reign down, not to mention a pretty slick sub game he showed in the Bader fight.
Shogun is known for his sweeps. It’s kind of his thing. He’ll be working to get back up as soon as he’s taken down. It’s not like Jones has been able to hold everyone down. Shogun’s bjj is also better than Jones’. The only way Shogun gets submitted by Jones is if his cardio is shot, or he was just rocked.
UFC/Zuffa pulling Hendo/Shields marketing scheme.
The marketing for this match is obviously one sided and in Jones favor. Granted Jones is much more favorable/likable compared to Rashad, but still Shogun should have been marketed better. Especially since the UFC has a library of highlight footage of Shogun beating quality opposition. Its sad seeing Jones getting a special called “Jon Jones: In the Moment”, when they have someone who is their champion and equally just as special. Furthermore, the UFC is vilifying Shogun in the eyes of the casual fan, announcements such as this http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-announces-shogun-vs-jones-020711, on the UFC website announcing Jones being from nearby New York will cause some unnecessary booing from the Post Pride Era fanbase. Dana White criticized Strikeforce for Marketing Hendo instead of Shields and now are doing the same. I hope Shogun proves them wrong by beating Jones decisively and goes on to headline UFC: Rio.
Interesting take...
I, too, found it odd that they didn’t show any Pride highlights for Rua in the promo. He’s had star making moments- star making moments against dudes in the current UFC from the Pride ring. It was conspicuously absent, especially when you’ve seen it before with Gomi, Cro Cop and Hendo.
by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 14, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
holy shit- I thought that "In the Moment" you were referring to was a web video...
I just saw that it’s a 30 minute special on Spike???? Since when do they do half-episodes of Countdown? That’s bullshit- they could have hired their Brazil contacts and sent a camera out to Curitiba for 1 day. Get the interviews, show some Pride footage- do what they normally do. This gerrymandering is bullshit.
by John Danaher's Hair on Mar 14, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Truly sad.
Shogun gets 30 secs. in the promo and Jones gets a 30 min. special. Hopefully the prefight show makes up for it but I’m not holding my breath for it. The Gusmao/Bonnar/Hammil/Vera/Matsushenko/Bader resume is nothing compared to Shogun’s LHW GP resume by itself.
Gosh dangit
Lyoto was doing SO good before Shogun knocked him the hell out.
This fight had the potential to be so epic. They both were a bit tentative in the first fight, but if this one had gone 5 rounds at the pace they set…it would have been unbelievable.
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as injured as Shogun was
he wasn’t ready for five rounds. He blew out his knee BEFORE the fight.
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by Nate Wilcox on Mar 14, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t he also have an appendectomy a few weeks prior to the fight? His body looks nothing like it did in the first fight, I think he went in planning to end it quickly or else.
Also, does anyone else think Machida looks surprisingly tired from about 2 minutes on?
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by The American Ronin on Mar 14, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know this pace couldn't have been kept for 5 rounds
When they were working like this, someone was going to get knocked out or eventually tire.
And with Shogun’s knee injury, he wouldn’t have lasted.
But damn it I love thinking about the what if’s
If Shogun doesn’t land that punch, and Lyoto keeps mixing in the takedowns with strikes, he could have scored a decisive unanimous decision.
I don’t like people who say ‘oh well so and so was winning’ in instances where the fight ended in the first round, becuase really, at that point it’s just getting started, but Lyoto was doing very well, I think he was definitely fairing better than the first fight. The takedowns would’ve likely swayed the judges, and Lyoto was doing a good job of at least checking a portion of the leg kicks.
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by Chris Groves on Mar 14, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It’ll be interesting to see if Shogun can sweep Jones. Machida doesn’t ‘have the grappling experience that Jones has, nor does he have the size. That said Shogun is really strong and takes a punch about as well, or even better than just about anyone. I just really can’t wait to watch this fight, but I have a feeling that Jones is going to take this and then reign a la GSP. Jones getting a takedown is such a sure thing, and his offense is so bad-ass when he gets it there, it’s really the only guaranteed thing to happen. Of course anything can happen.
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My favorite part about this fight was when Yves said “if you wanna touch gloves do it now”, and they just stand there looking at each other like “Huh?? Do you know what he said??”, and he has to tap his fists together to show them.
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